Bernie Sanders' campaign just dropped a major hint that the race is over
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Source: VOX, Sanders Press Release
Bernie Sanders campaign put out a statement tonight that, for the first time, implicitly admits what delegate-counters have been saying for a few weeks now he's not going to be the nominee.
He's not going to drop out of the race, but the opening paragraph of his statement he speaks of looking forward "to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come" an indication that he'll be ratcheting-down the anti-Clinton rhetoric not ratcheting it up. But the real bombshell comes later in the statement where he describes the goal of amassing delegates primarily in terms of influencing the party platform rather than determining the nominee.
Read the whole thing (with emphasis added):
I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victories tonight, and I look forward to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come.
I am proud that we were able to win a resounding victory tonight in Rhode Island, the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome. Democrats should recognize that the ticket with the best chance of winning this November must attract support from independents as well as Democrats. I am proud of my campaigns record in that regard.
Read more: http://www.vox.com/2016/4/26/11515050/bernie-sanders-admits-its-over
"....That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform...."
So he admits that all he has left is a chance at influencing the platform, NOT the nomination!
wysi
(1,512 posts)So I think we have officially reached Stage 1!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)then try to win them back after they've been called every name in the book. Everyone knows whats bound to happen next. 3rd party. Maybe the Liberal Party I don't know..
stopbush
(24,398 posts)to play the victim card and aver people are calling names. It's part and parcel to Sanders' whole "the evil people are against my morally pure message."
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I'm for Bernie. And I am sticking with Bernie!
I want the corruption not just out of our government but out of our media too.
I'm solidly for Bernie.
We are going to influence the convention to the extent we can.
The Republicans will have a field day with all of Hillary's weaknesses and idiosyncrasies should she be the nominee.
California has a lot of delegates. We will get as many of the as we can for Bernie.
There is a lot of time between now and November. You never know what will happen.
I support Bernie 100%. I'm in California, and I look forward to voting for him in the primary.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)I'm in WA state and have my LD convention this Sunday. I'm an alternate for Bernie and in no way will deviate from supporting him.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)Bernie will win this state. People out here are not a bunch of sheep. They think for themselves and vote their conscience. I don't know anyone who is supporting Hillary. I've seen exactly one bumper sticker with her name on it and it said "Hillary for Prison." She's incredibly off putting, and judging by the comments here, so are her supporters. Bernie all the way.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)She will NEVER win in the GE.
No More Corrupt Clintons Ever.
840high
(17,196 posts)I'm tired of this song, do you know any others?
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)apparently sheeplike tendencies and an affinity for corporate owned candidates who are fine with the status quo think she has a chance in hell of becoming President without Bernie supporters and Independents. Good luck with that in November.
George II
(67,782 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Bylaw that stipulates that a person must declare their party allegiance some 180 days earlier than Progressive Californians get to make their move. That was the case in NY stae, which is why so many people there couldn't vote for Bernie.
(I believe that here in Calif. we have until May 11th to switch from third party affiliation to Democratic Party affiliation.)
Anyway California is far more generous in terms of time to declare your party - and it sure has not made the state one of Republicans only.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)probably said in the passion of the moment. or you lack math skills. until California still has a 50/50 shot. she still has 900 delegates to go. and still 300 apart. Donalds delegate lead is like 400 apart or more. I kinda figured this out when the bully shots starting going into overdrive. I fear it'll be 2004 again but the outright reality 23 states have stated they either barely love her or love her (ties in delegates I'd consider barely . not gonna count the barely's. so I'll give her 23 states.
vs 17 states who declared they love Bernie (or barely ) 5 state difference. Not counting states that don't count in the GE. (or islands etc) 10 states left to vote. Should be interesting but we new the game was rigged. DWS made sure of that. We are hoping to stear the Democrats back to being Liberal. The game was never to win, but to change the system. That was how it was supposed to be originally but for whatever reason she ran a bad campaign like in 2008. But flip a coin and hence the 50/50 chance system. Just take issue 40 states yeah right. On what planet.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Just let the ejection play out. Oregon will be Bernie and so will CA.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But... I'm not sure you, your fellows, or even your candidate really understand that the primary election and the general election are different thing.
Your candidate is on MSNBC, bragging about having 0.3% of the US population voting for her - by her own numbers - and in the same breath dismissing the need for any voters beyond that. here you are, talking as if she's already won the election.
If you're serious about winning the GE, you might want to figure out how it works.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)determined who would be on their state's ballot as the Dem nominee. That is very different from what you stated.
Had all of Sanders supporters in those 40 states been able to vote for "who they wanted" Sanders would be the Dem nominee. In fact, if the GE were held today and Sanders was on the ballot in every state, he would be our president and everyone knows that.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)This is the Democratic primary where our party nominates a candidate to run in the general election.
It is pretty clear we Democrats have made our choice.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)are not Democrats, nor democrats.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)and don't expect Independents and Republicans to flock to Hillary. She's gonna be running against the odds just like Bernie was before her.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)hands and knees to vote against her. They'd rather see Charles Manson in the White House than the Clintons. On November 8, the DNC, Hillary, and her supporters will likely come face to face with the harsh truth that in the world beyond their bubble, she is so reviled and distrusted that voters would rather take a chance on a brash businessman with no political credentials than give her the keys to the WH.
madaboutharry
(40,245 posts)They are in deep mathematical denial. They need to come to terms with it.
wysi
(1,512 posts)It's up to the supporters whether they cross it.
It's up to Hillary Clinton whether she crosses the bridge, or burns it. It's an interesting question. is she serious about being president? If so, she's got her work cut out for her. 'Cause she's not winning the general election without democratic and independent Bernie supporters.
wysi
(1,512 posts)Tell us all about it, we love hearing it over and over again.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)We want change. Go back to being Liberal. What people are in denial about is how Conservative she is. I voted for Bill in 96. I used to be more Conservative back then. Then I swung Liberal in 2004. I don't think they've changed much. And I don't wanna hit the reverse button either. We wanna go back to the left not the red right.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)in Alaska with a clear conscience, if I so choose. Hillary wouldn't win here if she was the only candidate running, and besides we're only three electoral votes. Sometimes there are advantages to living in a small (population-wise) red state.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)msongs
(67,496 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)She's gonna have to figure out how to pay them off soon. She hasn't paid her bills in Iowa yet. Bernie has She hasn't. It's tough to fight the rich. They tend to win.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Good to know that so many of us hard working Americans did the right thing and dug into our pockets and gave this man the money he needed.
Frances
(8,548 posts)and I will.
I hope that Bernie and Bernie's supporters will support Hillary if she is indeed the nominee.
But I also hope that Bernie and his supporters not only work hard to get a progressive platform at the Convention but that they keep up the momentum for change by working at the local, county, and state level.
I want to help in that effort.
jfern
(5,204 posts)That's not a concession speech.
Wibly
(613 posts)Serious case of reading into a statement, and then running off at the mouth about what one thinks they read.
Oh, and I just love the vitriol coming out from the H campaign towards the people they need to win over in order to win in November.
All I'm seeing here is the Clinton campaign supporters giving the Sanders supporters a good reason to go rogue.
LittleGirl
(8,292 posts)those blinking graphics on your sig line? They are really annoying.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The Presidential nomination isn't the only meritorious objective of a People's Revolution. If it really is a people's revolution, onward to the obvious next battle giving President Clinton a Democratic majority on the Hill so the Progressive platform gets enacted. Let's go all the way Bernie!
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)progressive platform. She's as status quo as they come.
840high
(17,196 posts)Arizona Roadrunner
(168 posts)I was surprised by the number of Sanders voters at polling places who said their alternative wasn't Hillary but Trump. The fact that Hillary is not popular with independents and a lot of Sanders voters may spell doom not only for Clinton in the Presidential race but for Democrats in down ticket races.
The bottom line is that many people are no longer buying the "new Democrats". As one person put it to me, if I want corporations dominating my life, I would vote Republican. Therefore, they said given Hillary vs. Trump, he wasn't going to vote at all.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)he's done.