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George II

(67,782 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:08 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders' campaign just dropped a major hint that the race is over

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by azurnoir (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: VOX, Sanders Press Release

Bernie Sanders campaign put out a statement tonight that, for the first time, implicitly admits what delegate-counters have been saying for a few weeks now — he's not going to be the nominee.

He's not going to drop out of the race, but the opening paragraph of his statement he speaks of looking forward "to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come" — an indication that he'll be ratcheting-down the anti-Clinton rhetoric not ratcheting it up. But the real bombshell comes later in the statement where he describes the goal of amassing delegates primarily in terms of influencing the party platform rather than determining the nominee.

Read the whole thing (with emphasis added):

I congratulate Secretary Clinton on her victories tonight, and I look forward to issue-oriented campaigns in the 14 contests to come.

I am proud that we were able to win a resounding victory tonight in Rhode Island, the one state with an open primary where independents had a say in the outcome. Democrats should recognize that the ticket with the best chance of winning this November must attract support from independents as well as Democrats. I am proud of my campaign’s record in that regard.



Read more: http://www.vox.com/2016/4/26/11515050/bernie-sanders-admits-its-over



"....That is why this campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform...."

So he admits that all he has left is a chance at influencing the platform, NOT the nomination!
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Bernie Sanders' campaign just dropped a major hint that the race is over (Original Post) George II Apr 2016 OP
They are in denial all over the internet wysi Apr 2016 #1
Stage one of making fun of a YUUUUGGGEE amount of Bernie supporters bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #4
yeah first things first make fun of the bernie supporters PatrynXX Apr 2016 #11
Sanders supporters don't actually need to be called any names stopbush Apr 2016 #25
Stage one of insuring a Republican victory in November. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #12
I Agree 100%. chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #26
I'm in California, too, and I think LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #30
JD...absolutely. SoapBox Apr 2016 #38
I' with you. 840high Apr 2016 #42
Yawn wysi Apr 2016 #43
The platform is vital for me. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #2
Not over yet! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #3
Forty states have already determined who they want as President, resoundingly saying HILLARY CLINTON George II Apr 2016 #6
No. States with closed primaries and voters with LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #13
So you want republicans to have a say in deciding who our nominee is? George II Apr 2016 #14
NO I don' t think that is what is being suggested. I mean, why have a non-progressive truedelphi Apr 2016 #35
and thats an outright lie. nice but totally wrong X_X PatrynXX Apr 2016 #17
What exactly is the total population of his states versus hers? 6000eliot Apr 2016 #27
Vote machines flipped, counts distorted, cheating at polls, electioneering, etc etc etc bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #21
George II, You're Looking Too Far Into Things billhicks76 Apr 2016 #23
Not to burst your bubble... Scootaloo Apr 2016 #32
+1 (N/T) Old Crow Apr 2016 #41
No. Only a very small percent of registered voters in 40 states JimDandy Apr 2016 #33
They call that the November general election. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #8
And the ones that aren't willing to abide by the vote The Second Stone Apr 2016 #16
and Bernie supporters are all three PatrynXX Apr 2016 #18
Republicans would crawl across broken glass on bare LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #36
He is preparing his supporters. madaboutharry Apr 2016 #5
This statement is the bridge wysi Apr 2016 #9
Wrong. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #39
That ransom thing again wysi Apr 2016 #44
You can make stuff up if you want PatrynXX Apr 2016 #19
don't need to come to shit because you say so bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #22
I can leave that oval blank on my ballot Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #31
K & R, good post. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #7
bernie has million n millions of $$ to spend. good for the economy nt msongs Apr 2016 #10
and she's nearly broke PatrynXX Apr 2016 #20
Is that really true? I haven't followed the money angle of all this. truedelphi Apr 2016 #37
I have always said I'd support either Hillary or Bernie Frances Apr 2016 #15
He said that he's best at winning independents in the general election jfern Apr 2016 #24
Making the Sanders support go rogue Wibly Apr 2016 #28
Is it necessary to have LittleGirl Apr 2016 #29
I think there is a way to turn off sigline. Look under the My account tac, iirc. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #48
Bernie could lead the overthrow of the Republican Congress and win hands down. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #34
Only problem is Hillary isn't interested in promoting a LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #40
That's why Hillary and I will part company. 840high Apr 2016 #45
Trump vs. Clinton Arizona Roadrunner Apr 2016 #46
Stick a fucking fork in him mwrguy Apr 2016 #47
sorry locking analysis azurnoir Apr 2016 #49

wysi

(1,512 posts)
1. They are in denial all over the internet
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:09 AM
Apr 2016

So I think we have officially reached Stage 1!

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
4. Stage one of making fun of a YUUUUGGGEE amount of Bernie supporters
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
11. yeah first things first make fun of the bernie supporters
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:18 AM
Apr 2016

then try to win them back after they've been called every name in the book. Everyone knows whats bound to happen next. 3rd party. Maybe the Liberal Party I don't know..

stopbush

(24,398 posts)
25. Sanders supporters don't actually need to be called any names
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

to play the victim card and aver people are calling names. It's part and parcel to Sanders' whole "the evil people are against my morally pure message."

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Stage one of insuring a Republican victory in November.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:19 AM
Apr 2016

I'm for Bernie. And I am sticking with Bernie!

I want the corruption not just out of our government but out of our media too.

I'm solidly for Bernie.

We are going to influence the convention to the extent we can.

The Republicans will have a field day with all of Hillary's weaknesses and idiosyncrasies should she be the nominee.

California has a lot of delegates. We will get as many of the as we can for Bernie.

There is a lot of time between now and November. You never know what will happen.

I support Bernie 100%. I'm in California, and I look forward to voting for him in the primary.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
26. I Agree 100%.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

I'm in WA state and have my LD convention this Sunday. I'm an alternate for Bernie and in no way will deviate from supporting him.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
30. I'm in California, too, and I think
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie will win this state. People out here are not a bunch of sheep. They think for themselves and vote their conscience. I don't know anyone who is supporting Hillary. I've seen exactly one bumper sticker with her name on it and it said "Hillary for Prison." She's incredibly off putting, and judging by the comments here, so are her supporters. Bernie all the way.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
38. JD...absolutely.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

She will NEVER win in the GE.

No More Corrupt Clintons Ever.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
42. I' with you.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:14 AM
Apr 2016

wysi

(1,512 posts)
43. Yawn
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:14 AM
Apr 2016

I'm tired of this song, do you know any others?

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
2. The platform is vital for me.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
3. Not over yet!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016
"The people in every state in this country should have the right to determine who they want as president"

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Forty states have already determined who they want as President, resoundingly saying HILLARY CLINTON
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:13 AM
Apr 2016

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
13. No. States with closed primaries and voters with
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

apparently sheeplike tendencies and an affinity for corporate owned candidates who are fine with the status quo think she has a chance in hell of becoming President without Bernie supporters and Independents. Good luck with that in November.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. So you want republicans to have a say in deciding who our nominee is?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
35. NO I don' t think that is what is being suggested. I mean, why have a non-progressive
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

Bylaw that stipulates that a person must declare their party allegiance some 180 days earlier than Progressive Californians get to make their move. That was the case in NY stae, which is why so many people there couldn't vote for Bernie.

(I believe that here in Calif. we have until May 11th to switch from third party affiliation to Democratic Party affiliation.)

Anyway California is far more generous in terms of time to declare your party - and it sure has not made the state one of Republicans only.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
17. and thats an outright lie. nice but totally wrong X_X
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

probably said in the passion of the moment. or you lack math skills. until California still has a 50/50 shot. she still has 900 delegates to go. and still 300 apart. Donalds delegate lead is like 400 apart or more. I kinda figured this out when the bully shots starting going into overdrive. I fear it'll be 2004 again but the outright reality 23 states have stated they either barely love her or love her (ties in delegates I'd consider barely . not gonna count the barely's. so I'll give her 23 states.

vs 17 states who declared they love Bernie (or barely ) 5 state difference. Not counting states that don't count in the GE. (or islands etc) 10 states left to vote. Should be interesting but we new the game was rigged. DWS made sure of that. We are hoping to stear the Democrats back to being Liberal. The game was never to win, but to change the system. That was how it was supposed to be originally but for whatever reason she ran a bad campaign like in 2008. But flip a coin and hence the 50/50 chance system. Just take issue 40 states yeah right. On what planet.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
27. What exactly is the total population of his states versus hers?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:42 AM
Apr 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
21. Vote machines flipped, counts distorted, cheating at polls, electioneering, etc etc etc
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:33 AM
Apr 2016
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
23. George II, You're Looking Too Far Into Things
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:36 AM
Apr 2016

Just let the ejection play out. Oregon will be Bernie and so will CA.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
32. Not to burst your bubble...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

But... I'm not sure you, your fellows, or even your candidate really understand that the primary election and the general election are different thing.

Your candidate is on MSNBC, bragging about having 0.3% of the US population voting for her - by her own numbers - and in the same breath dismissing the need for any voters beyond that. here you are, talking as if she's already won the election.

If you're serious about winning the GE, you might want to figure out how it works.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
41. +1 (N/T)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
33. No. Only a very small percent of registered voters in 40 states
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:55 AM
Apr 2016

determined who would be on their state's ballot as the Dem nominee. That is very different from what you stated.

Had all of Sanders supporters in those 40 states been able to vote for "who they wanted" Sanders would be the Dem nominee. In fact, if the GE were held today and Sanders was on the ballot in every state, he would be our president and everyone knows that.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. They call that the November general election.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:15 AM
Apr 2016

This is the Democratic primary where our party nominates a candidate to run in the general election.

It is pretty clear we Democrats have made our choice.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
16. And the ones that aren't willing to abide by the vote
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

are not Democrats, nor democrats.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
18. and Bernie supporters are all three
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:28 AM
Apr 2016

and don't expect Independents and Republicans to flock to Hillary. She's gonna be running against the odds just like Bernie was before her.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
36. Republicans would crawl across broken glass on bare
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

hands and knees to vote against her. They'd rather see Charles Manson in the White House than the Clintons. On November 8, the DNC, Hillary, and her supporters will likely come face to face with the harsh truth that in the world beyond their bubble, she is so reviled and distrusted that voters would rather take a chance on a brash businessman with no political credentials than give her the keys to the WH.

madaboutharry

(40,245 posts)
5. He is preparing his supporters.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:12 AM
Apr 2016

They are in deep mathematical denial. They need to come to terms with it.

wysi

(1,512 posts)
9. This statement is the bridge
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

It's up to the supporters whether they cross it.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
39. Wrong.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

It's up to Hillary Clinton whether she crosses the bridge, or burns it. It's an interesting question. is she serious about being president? If so, she's got her work cut out for her. 'Cause she's not winning the general election without democratic and independent Bernie supporters.

wysi

(1,512 posts)
44. That ransom thing again
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:16 AM
Apr 2016

Tell us all about it, we love hearing it over and over again.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
19. You can make stuff up if you want
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:31 AM
Apr 2016

We want change. Go back to being Liberal. What people are in denial about is how Conservative she is. I voted for Bill in 96. I used to be more Conservative back then. Then I swung Liberal in 2004. I don't think they've changed much. And I don't wanna hit the reverse button either. We wanna go back to the left not the red right.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
22. don't need to come to shit because you say so
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:33 AM
Apr 2016

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
31. I can leave that oval blank on my ballot
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:49 AM
Apr 2016

in Alaska with a clear conscience, if I so choose. Hillary wouldn't win here if she was the only candidate running, and besides we're only three electoral votes. Sometimes there are advantages to living in a small (population-wise) red state.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. K & R, good post.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:14 AM
Apr 2016

msongs

(67,496 posts)
10. bernie has million n millions of $$ to spend. good for the economy nt
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
20. and she's nearly broke
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:32 AM
Apr 2016

She's gonna have to figure out how to pay them off soon. She hasn't paid her bills in Iowa yet. Bernie has She hasn't. It's tough to fight the rich. They tend to win.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
37. Is that really true? I haven't followed the money angle of all this.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:00 AM
Apr 2016

Good to know that so many of us hard working Americans did the right thing and dug into our pockets and gave this man the money he needed.

Frances

(8,548 posts)
15. I have always said I'd support either Hillary or Bernie
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

and I will.

I hope that Bernie and Bernie's supporters will support Hillary if she is indeed the nominee.

But I also hope that Bernie and his supporters not only work hard to get a progressive platform at the Convention but that they keep up the momentum for change by working at the local, county, and state level.

I want to help in that effort.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
24. He said that he's best at winning independents in the general election
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

That's not a concession speech.

Wibly

(613 posts)
28. Making the Sanders support go rogue
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

Serious case of reading into a statement, and then running off at the mouth about what one thinks they read.
Oh, and I just love the vitriol coming out from the H campaign towards the people they need to win over in order to win in November.
All I'm seeing here is the Clinton campaign supporters giving the Sanders supporters a good reason to go rogue.

LittleGirl

(8,292 posts)
29. Is it necessary to have
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:45 AM
Apr 2016

those blinking graphics on your sig line? They are really annoying.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
48. I think there is a way to turn off sigline. Look under the My account tac, iirc.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. Bernie could lead the overthrow of the Republican Congress and win hands down.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

The Presidential nomination isn't the only meritorious objective of a People's Revolution. If it really is a people's revolution, onward to the obvious next battle giving President Clinton a Democratic majority on the Hill so the Progressive platform gets enacted. Let's go all the way Bernie!

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
40. Only problem is Hillary isn't interested in promoting a
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:10 AM
Apr 2016

progressive platform. She's as status quo as they come.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
45. That's why Hillary and I will part company.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:17 AM
Apr 2016
 

Arizona Roadrunner

(168 posts)
46. Trump vs. Clinton
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

I was surprised by the number of Sanders voters at polling places who said their alternative wasn't Hillary but Trump. The fact that Hillary is not popular with independents and a lot of Sanders voters may spell doom not only for Clinton in the Presidential race but for Democrats in down ticket races.

The bottom line is that many people are no longer buying the "new Democrats". As one person put it to me, if I want corporations dominating my life, I would vote Republican. Therefore, they said given Hillary vs. Trump, he wasn't going to vote at all.

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
47. Stick a fucking fork in him
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

he's done.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
49. sorry locking analysis
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016
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