'They sell you a dream': tech workers protest Clooney event for Clinton

[Lodestar]

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Source: Guardian

Democrats marched against Democrats in San Francisco and revealed a widening rift between commuting tech workers and their venture capital bosses

After working in Silicon Valley for years, Morgan Quirk felt good protesting outside the home of a venture capitalist who funded tech startups and fundraisers for Hillary Clinton. He was part of a new splinter group of the liberal party: Democrats marching against Democrats in San Francisco, commuting tech workers against their bosses.

“They sell you a dream at startups – the ping-pong, the perks – so they can pull 80 hours out of you,” said Quirk, a 26-year-old software engineer. “But in reality the venture capitalists control all the capital, all the labor, and all the decisions, so yeah, it feels great protesting one.”

Nearly 200 Bernie Sanders supporters gathered last night with pots and pans outside Shervin Pishevar’s star-studded Clinton fundraiser, co-hosted by George and Amal Clooney. The Sanders supporters argued corporate interests were buying Clinton that night – tickets for Pishevar’s dinner started at $33,400 (for a seat at the Fairmont hotel) and went up to $353,400 (for a seat at his house). Most of those in the streets were young, and many were in tech.


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[FreakinDJ]

1. Clinton is Morally Bankrupt

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[Hoppy]

14. I guess Clooney is, too.

[FreakinDJ]

20. Filthy Rich Actors always have keen political insight

that benefits the 1%

[DemocracyDirect]

27. Let's not forget that a lot of actors are relations of the 1% these days...

... because its just another club.

[FreakinDJ]

28. "Fuck the Little People" echos through out

[DemocracyDirect]

29. George Clooney is himself in a dynasty.

And has the money to go with it.

Not to mention a lot of foreign interests.

Best buddies.

[Democat]

40. You sound like a pro-Trump troll

Get lost if you hate Democrats.

Someone needs to cleanup this site or at least move the trolls where they belong, to the Primaries forum.

[FreakinDJ]

41. Hillary is so far right even her Logo points right

Hillary could by stretch of the imagination could Win the GE without Independents

[no_hypocrisy]

2. "Wouldn't it be nice . . . . . ?"

[Hoppy]

16. Vote for Hillary so you can bring this new economy right to your neighborhood.

[2banon]

18. This!^^^^^^10000!

[Plucketeer]

26. Thumbs up!

[2banon]

17. great Film, highly recommend to Clinton Supporters.

lift the veil from their eyes if it has been cemented.

[antigop]

3. YES!!!! It's high time. They also need to protest H-1B visaholders taking tech jobs.

[djean111]

6. We tried that. Sadly other AMERICANS told us that we were racist, that we should have had

better job skills (no, entire departments were put out of work, skills NEVER were the issue), didn't really see the problem. We were whining, we should just go get another kind of job, and sell the house that we bought because we thought we had a good job.

Yeah, well, just wait, with the TPP, ALL the jobs will be up for grabs to the lowest bidder. Tried to tell people. Still won't listen.

Yet another reason why I cannot support Hillary.

[antigop]

8. I hear ya, djean. I hear ya. nt

[reddread]

9. dont be so racist

funny the times you hear that remark,
and the times you dont.

[djean111]

10. And - as if we would have been fucking ecstatic to lose our jobs to, say, Europeans or the Chinese

or whatever. The racist charge was such bullshit.

[reddread]

12. projection and deflection

I know how the employers feel about their laborers.
they love them in an evil way. It would be racist of us
not to allow them to share that love with workers from
other countries.

[abelenkpe]

11. Some just can't relate

Until it happens to them.

Several years back the president came to congratulate the CEOs who offshored VFX jobs saying he hopes this business model is replicated across the country while laid off workers protested outside. Think those workers are going to vote for one who views outsourcing and offshoring as OK? They used to democrats and liberals. Before the party abandoned them and sold out their livelihood.

[greymouse]

22. better job skills

I guess that's why Disney at al have the about to be laid off workers training their H1-B replacements.

[djean111]

25. That "better job skills" thing was always bullshit. Always.

With H-1B's, costs go down, the company AND the contracting firm makes money. And a lot of political palms are greased.
Race to the bottom of the economy.

[Baobab]

32. L-1 visas are the worse ones

So called "Mode Four" jobs.

(Its unclear whether this will be the case or whether the higher of the two countries minimum wage will apply but if that is the case then the WTO could compel us to get rid of minimum wages!)

Then could pay Americans almost nothing. (which is I think their ultimate goal) In either case the quotas on them may get struck down by WTO.

Because the continued existence of trade distorting subsidies like minimum wages, food stamps, and visa quotas and high fees would deny us of the benefits of the agreement: competition and a race to the bottom on wages.

Get it?

[djean111]

33. Oh, I get. Others won't get it until it happens to them. n/t

[Baobab]

39. They will just never get in the front door. So they will never even aspire to a tech job, knowing

that they will be paid almost nothing.

For the current system to continue growing ever worse, the alternatives which exist MUST be intentionally broken.

They must divide and conquer the digitally competent portion of global society who might otherwise become more influential due to the usefulness of tech skills.

They know that SOMEDAY people will likely unite globally and vote on issues directly - both local and globally using open source software, without their middlemen of politicians "maximizing the value in the supply chain" and forcing a global race to the bottom.

Thats what global access to free education and health care and continuation of the now almost completely hijacked open society model. Now W** G*** is destroying the right to public education and health care, most recently in India. (in the US in 1995, Hillary's health care was a fake cover-up of it)

Google this:

"For the purposes of this Agreement…

(b) 'services' includes any service in any sector except services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority;

(c) 'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."

If history is any guide, they would rather destroy the planet with their endless wars than let real peace and prosperity ever happen.

[Baobab]

31. TiSA also GATS which is already in effect

Less so TPP.

But yes, kind of.

And it could become huge and effect millions of workers.

[Kip Humphrey]

4. In pursuit of a moral economy or in pursuit of $353,400 per head table seat? Which do you want?

[Dustlawyer]

13. No debate answer can so clearly show the difference between the two candidates!

Clinton is the poster child for what Bernie is saying is wrong with our campaign finance system. The Democratic Party is controlled by this big money. They follow it like a dog in heat!

I still don't understand the attraction Hillary has from her non-wealthy supporters. Especially now that in polls Bernie creams all Republicans and she loses to Kasich and close against the other two.

Clean house Bernie! Ask the Pope if you can borrow his car!

Feel the Bern!!!

[2banon]

19. I don't understand why Bernie didn't "go there" in the debate the other night.

I know, I know, i know,

He doesn't want to run a "negative campaign". <big sigh>

[Baobab]

34. Maybe he is assuming that the system is fixed

and that he can't win.

[Ford_Prefect]

5. This is what happens when High Information voters have something to say about the candidates.

[jwirr]

7. Reminds me of the beginning of the Unions. Workers marching

against the bosses. Only then the Democratic Party was marching with the Union workers and not with the bosses. Shame on you Hillary and Clooney.

[MrMickeysMom]

15. Indeed... SHAME ON HILLARY AND SHAME ON CLOONEY!

Much as I like his roles in the movies, I see him more than ever as a sell-out who happens to act well after being cast well.

[greymouse]

21. nobody ever said Clooney was a giant brain

It's easy to forget these people are actors, i.e. fakes.

[disndat]

23. I though Clooney was progressive.

He made very good movies critical of the establishment, like the one on Edward R. Murrow and the canning of Dan Rather by CBS.
What made him drink the Kool Aid?

[EndElectoral]

30. Money?

[jwirr]

38. He has been active in Democratic politics for a long time

and his father was a politician. But I have never seen him as a centrist before.

[Baobab]

35. Then the threat posed by automation was less or nothing

Now the fact is is that people can only unionize if they are needed. If machines can hum along with only a tiny group of robotic maintenance workers. unionizing them is a big challenge.

By creating multiple fake crises in healthcare, education and IT, over 20 years (G*** was signed in 1994 and became effective in 1995) so they could globalize those services they are not only committing a crime against humanity, they are also intentionally putting millions of US workers in an impossible situation.

But in exchange for those jobs, US multinationals get concessions in other countries, "National Treatment" and "Most Favored Nation" and also the deal gets locked in stone forever, preventing public health care and education (because foreign firms get a property right in our market remaining open)

Its a recipe for the privatization and crapification of everything.

This is why Clinton HAS TO win.

They can't leave it up to the people - who are likely to figure it out at some point.

[Odin2005]

24. Clooney should be ashamed of himself.

Here I thought he was a genuine Progressive, turns out he's just another pro-Establishment Limousine Liberal.

[Baobab]

36. Do you remember in 1984, the Emmanuel Goldstein opposition figure?

Part of the total "state capture" a fake ("captured&quot opposition?

The highest and most sophisticated form of corruption is global capture. Which is where we are now.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

[bobthedrummer]

37. "She's a lot like you-the dangerous type..." K&R

[tammywammy]

42. Locking

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