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cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:59 AM Feb 2016

Donald Trump to Foreign Workers for Florida Club: You’re Hired

Source: New York Times

Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., describes itself as “one of the most highly regarded private clubs in the world,” and it is not just the very-well-to-do who want to get in.

Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired.

In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries.

In his quest for the Republican presidential nomination, Mr. Trump has stoked his crowds by promising to bring back jobs that have been snatched by illegal immigrants or outsourced by corporations, and voters worried about immigration have been his strongest backers.

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us/politics/donald-trump-taps-foreign-work-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0



Hmm... So, Trump is ranting against the H-1B program, which SHOULD be criticized, but it would appear that his empire is exploiting guest worker programs like H-2B visa employees mentioned in this article.

Bernie Sanders is now shown to be the ONLY *honest* candidate who has concerns about these guest worker programs that both exploit foreign workers unfairly and take away American jobs!

You can be Rubio will go after Trump here, but there's a big opportunity to gain a lot of the displaced American workers from these programs who have been flocking to the more visible Trump on this issue. Now that Trump is exposed, will Hillary Clinton finally break her silence of over 8 years on this topic?

Another page just put in place the last hour discussing this NY Times article...

https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/ny-times-rubio-hit-trump-hiring-foreign-workers
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Donald Trump to Foreign Workers for Florida Club: You’re Hired (Original Post) cascadiance Feb 2016 OP
Explanation houston16revival Feb 2016 #1
and J-1 Visas too. 2naSalit Feb 2016 #2
we also have Eastern Bloc low-paid workers in my small town wordpix Feb 2016 #3
It gets to be a problem for the local residents who then can't find work 2naSalit Feb 2016 #4
already figured this in against Hillary PatrynXX Feb 2016 #5
So what? this is a non-issue. fbc Feb 2016 #6
I think he owes supporters an explanation of what he would do in his companies... cascadiance Feb 2016 #7
So many Americans lsewpershad Feb 2016 #8

2naSalit

(86,899 posts)
2. and J-1 Visas too.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

WHere I live, heavy tourist industry, most of the seasonal workers are from the Eastern Bloc countries, about a tenth of them overstay and somehow melt into the general population somehow. And employers who hire/sponsor them complain that they wouldn't have solvent businesses without them, regardless of how many able employable actual citizen/residents are available. They pay a lower hourly wage and get tax incentives on top of that... it's all about the greed.

As for the donald, it's to appease demands his trophy wife must be making in order to endure his presence, and his insatiable greed.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
3. we also have Eastern Bloc low-paid workers in my small town
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

One of my town's biggest employers is an assisted living facility that employs lots of Eastern Bloc women.

2naSalit

(86,899 posts)
4. It gets to be a problem for the local residents who then can't find work
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

and many of these workers get more than one job where they show up but do next to nothing as the regular workers have to take up the slack after these J-1s were hired to take up this slack due to increased clientele during the season. Many think some crazy shit about what the work-a-day world of working class America is like. The US has a PR machine like no other which makes us look like the ultimate Utopian dream-come-true complete with unicorns when, in reality, it's nothing of the sort.

pisses me off.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
6. So what? this is a non-issue.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:56 PM
Feb 2016

That's the way the laws currently work in this country.

Are we expecting businesses to act in the best interests of American workers out of a sense of patriotism? Businesses will do what's best for the bottom line and if that happens to be something that is bad for our country then we need politicians to pass laws preventing it.

Frankly this reminds me of Clinton's "cut it out" admonition to Wall Street. Businesses aren't going to "cut it out" if there's money to be made from not cutting it out. They need to be made to comply to regulations, something that isn't going to happen anytime soon as long as corporations own both political parties.

So people think that Donald Trump acting like a normal businessperson in the interests of his business and in no violation of the law is going to be some weight around his neck? Nonsense. He will spin it as he is the best person to fix the situation because he is the one that understands it, and plenty of Americans will buy that.

Maybe if we want American citizens to not face a disadvantage against foreign workers, we should have a party that supports American workers. The Democratic party, the party that held the presidency and both houses of congress and did nothing about this, will continue to do nothing about this as long as they are getting paid to ignore it.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
7. I think he owes supporters an explanation of what he would do in his companies...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016

... and if he is continuing to use guest worker programs to hire his own workers, and speaks out against these programs, to come up with an explanation of how he feels doing this, and why he feels it would change and he would treat workers better within his own companies. If he's just saying words that he thinks workers want to hear, but in fact carries out actions in direct conflict with what he's trying to campaign on, then in my book, he's not being honest with those he's asking for votes from on what he would really do to work for them, and what he's just saying to pander to them.

I can think of a lot of great speeches he can give, like he has to do this or he can't compete with other companies that have lower employee costs when they use these programs. Those are rationalizations too, but at least if he were to do that, he'd have voters feel like he's being more straight with them, on what he has to deal with, and how and when he'd change his policies to be in line on what he's campaigning for them on.

Since he's not doing that, he's a panderer, and the only candidate who's arguably not a panderer and truly trying to make sure laws protect workers (both foreign and domestic) is Bernie Sanders.

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