Freak storm in North Atlantic to lash UK, may push temperatures 70 degrees above normal at North Pol

[brooklynite]

Source: Washington Post

The vigorous low pressure system that helped spawn devastating tornadoes in the Dallas area on Saturday is forecast to explode into a monstrous storm over Iceland by Wednesday.

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Computer model simulations show the storm, sweeping across the north central Atlantic today, rapidly intensifying along a jet stream ripping above the ocean at 230 mph.

The storm’s pressure is forecast by the GFS model to plummet more than 50 millibars in 24 hours between Monday night and Tuesday night, easily meeting the criteria of a ‘bomb cyclone’ (a drop in pressure of at least 24 mb in 24 hours),

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Environmental blogger Robert Scribbler notes this storm will be linked within a “daisy chain” of two other powerful North Atlantic low pressure systems forming a “truly extreme storm system.” He adds: “The Icelandic coast and near off-shore regions are expected to see heavy precipitation hurled over the island by 90 to 100 mile per hour or stronger winds raging out of 35-40 foot seas. Meanwhile, the UK will find itself in the grips of an extraordinarily strong southerly gale running over the backs of 30 foot swells.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/12/28/freak-storm-in-north-atlantic-may-push-temperatures-70-degrees-above-normal-at-north-pole/

[Pharaoh]

1. nope

Move along.......

no global warming going on over here................

[Kelvin Mace]

2. In NC was 74 yesterday

and 50 today. Heading to 20 this week.

[dixiegrrrrl]

6. Jacksonville set a record of 85.....

That really is downright scary.
We have had high 70's the past 3 days.

[Kelvin Mace]

10. Until today, it had been over 70 for a week

We have gone from drought to flash floods in a year. The ground is super-saturated and trees are falling over.

[Proserpina]

3. I would postulate that this is all the North Atlantic hurricanes that didn't happen earlier

coming home to roost...

The purpose of hurricanes (if one can assign a purpose for a natural event) is to pump the heat out of the equatorial regions and send it to the polar regions. It is a natural extrapolation from the laws of thermodynamics.

Zeroth law of thermodynamics: If two systems are in thermal equilibrium respectively with a third system, they must be in thermal equilibrium with each other. This law helps define the notion of temperature.

First law of thermodynamics: When energy passes, as work, as heat, or with matter, into or out from a system, its internal energy changes in accord with the law of conservation of energy. Equivalently, perpetual motion machines of the first kind are impossible.

Second law of thermodynamics: In a natural thermodynamic process, the sum of the entropies of the interacting thermodynamic systems increases. Equivalently, perpetual motion machines of the second kind are impossible.

Conditions in the North Atlantic this year didn't permit the "average" amount of formation of hurricanes, and so the heat was bottled up, and now finally found a means to escape the bottle and head for the Arctic.

[trillion]

22. I think you are on to something

[XemaSab]

4. good times

n/t

[hatrack]

5. Well, at least it's not going to be boring . . .

[XemaSab]

9. And it's certainly going to be

[GreydeeThos]

14. Interesting times n/t

[jalan48]

7. I wonder if the candidates will be asked about climate change in the next debate.

[Hekate]

8. 70 degrees above normal at the North Pole? I just shuddered.

[trillion]

23. Me too. I find these terrifying times. Not "good times" as someone else suggested.

[T_i_B]

11. We've already got freak weather over here

Last edited Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:26 AM - Edit history (2)

It's unseasonably warm, and we've got already got flooding across Lancashire, Cumbria, West Yorkshire, North Yorkshire and I think even in parts of Northumberland.

There's quite a few threads on the subject in the UK forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10888992
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10888990
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10888944

[LittleGirl]

18. thanks for the links

I didn't know there was a UK forum here. not paying attention I guess.
hello from Basel.

[Turbineguy]

12. All part of the global warming hoax.

None of these things are actually happening. Obama is making this stuff up. The computers that make these model simulations are well-known left wing computers. If one of these fake storms shows up at my house, I'll shoot it. Unless that storm promises to vote for Donald Trump.

[trillion]

24. The liberals are making it up because they don't want America to succeed.

They also don't want to work and just want hand outs - all of them. And the Muslims hate us for our Freedom.



The thing is, with the unprecedented rain we're getting in storms now, we actually can say the sky is falling.

[T_i_B]

15. Guardian blames Jeremy Corbyn for floods

http://eveningharold.com/2015/12/29/guardian-blames-jeremy-corbyn-for-floods/#more-214356

As the north continues to be battered by floods the Guardian newspaper has decided to blame the whole thing on Jeremy Corbyn.

“Ever since he became leader our stance has very much been when the news is nasty or scaremy, don’t think, just blame Jeremy,” Guardian editor Katharine Viner told us. “And the floods are a perfect excuse to carry on.”

“It may seem strange that an ostensibly left-wing broadsheet is dedicated to undermining the most left-wing Labour leader in a generation,” she said. “But surely it’s weirder that the shadow cabinet are doing the same.”

[T_i_B]

16. York floods: Why did the Foss Barrier fail?

York gets flooded quite often, but the current floods have been even worse than usual, thanks to a key part of York's flood defenses failing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12072220/York-floods-Why-did-the-Foss-Barrier-fail.html

[wcast]

17. Interesting article on UK farming practices and flood management

Basically farmers are paid more to clear their land but planting groves of trees and other good ecological practices can reduce flooding and/or prevent it.

[link:http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/drowning-in-money/|

[blackspade]

19. No global climate change to see here....

Move along citizen....

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. 300 year old bridge in Tadcaster collapses

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35195153

People are being evacuated in Tadcaster after the Environment Agency issued a severe flood warning in response to the bridge collapse there. The warning, issued at 5.47pm on Tuesday says:

This severe flood warning has been issued due to the structural failure of Tadcaster Bridge over the river Wharfe in Tadcaster. Significant flooding is expected in the Tadcaster area. Those in this area are advised to evacuate immediately. The situation is serious and there is a significant risk to life. Please follow the advice of the emergency services and officials in the area.

...

The collapsed bridge at Tadcaster was c.1700, widened in 1791 by York architect John Carr who also worked at @fairfax_house. Tragic loss.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/live/2015/dec/29/uk-floods-more-gales-and-downpours-forecast-as-cleanup-continues-live-coverage#block-5682cf28e4b0028ce5164737

[T_i_B]

21. Also Elland Bridge in Halifax.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-12-29/bridge-closed-after-floods-cause-road-to-collapse/

And here's some footage of Tadcaster Bridge collapsing.

And we've got yet more storms to come, which will only make things much worse. Apparently Ireland has been hit badly overnight.

[Ghost Dog]

29. Details from Ireland here:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/storm-frank-cuts-power-to-13-000-causes-floods-and-closes-roads-1.2480263

Storm Frank cuts power to 13,000, causes floods and closes roads
Cork worst hit by rising water levels with Galway, Kilkenny and Wexford also affected...

... The threat of further flooding in Cork remains as the ESB intends to increase the flow of water through the Inniscarra Dam to 250 cumecs (cubic metres per second) between 9am and midday on Wednesday leading to increased flooding downstream...

... South Galway bore the brunt of flooding in the west, with river gauges expected to rise further over the coming days...

... The River Slaney burst its banks in Enniscorthy, Co Wexford and caused widespread flooding in the town. Several cars had to be abandoned...

... Limerick City and County Council said there has been no significant flooding in the county as a result of overnight rainfall but that water levels along the Lower River Shannon are continuing to increase. Water levels on the river rose by some 11cm at Castleconnell and Montpelier.

The ESB said the flow of water through Parteen Weir, which regulates water flow through Ardnacrusha dam, would remain at 440 (cubic metres per second) on Wednesday and that the situation would be reviewed again on Thursday. “The levels in Lough Derg may reach 2009 levels in the coming days and, as a result, the flow through Parteen Weir may increase to 2009 levels (up to 500 cumecs) in the coming days,” it said. “This level of water flow will have increased associated flooding to land and property in the vicinity of the Shannon downstream of Parteen Weir including the areas of Springfield, Montpelier, Castleconnell, Mountshannon (Annacotty) and the University of Limerick.” ...

[trillion]

25. What is this? I took it from the article. the heat and cold separate on earth? Will the US see the

temps listed?

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484

[Uncle Joe]

26. CNN blames all our out of whack weather on El Nino with nary a mention of climate change.

Thanks for the thread, brooklynite.

[Live and Learn]

27. Imagine Bernie thinking Climate Change was the most important issue. Silly guy.

[MowCowWhoHow III]

28. Iceland currently in the middle of the storm (Frank)