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brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:22 PM Nov 2015

Ben Carson Is Struggling to Grasp Foreign Policy, Advisers Say

Source: New York Times

Ben Carson’s remarks on foreign policy have repeatedly raised questions about his grasp of the subject, but never more seriously than in the past week, when he wrongly asserted that China had intervened militarily in Syria and then failed, on national television, to name the countries he would call on to form a coalition to fight the Islamic State.

Faced with increasing scrutiny about whether Mr. Carson — who leads in some Republican presidential polls — was capable of leading American foreign policy, two of his top advisers said in interviews with The New York Times that he had struggled to master the intricacies of the Middle East and national security and that intense tutoring was having little effect.

“Nobody has been able to sit down with him and have him get one iota of intelligent information about the Middle East,” Duane R. Clarridge, a top adviser to Mr. Carson on terrorism and national security, said in an interview. He also said Mr. Carson needed weekly conference calls briefing him on foreign policy so “we can make him smart.”


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/us/politics/ben-carson-is-struggling-to-grasp-foreign-policy-advisers-say.html



While a segment of the Republican base will continue to love his simple-minded approach to issues, I think this could be the turning point in his campaign...but sadly, giving a likely boost to Trump.
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Ben Carson Is Struggling to Grasp Foreign Policy, Advisers Say (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2015 OP
At least he's taking a "stab" at it. nt JeffHead Nov 2015 #1
:-D NurseJackie Nov 2015 #2
Oh, Jesus! That is funny! Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #4
Too bad there seems to be something in the way! Chemisse Nov 2015 #14
You win the internets randys1 Nov 2015 #26
Naughty, but funny. brush Nov 2015 #39
DUzy! FSogol Nov 2015 #42
good one! trusty elf Nov 2015 #50
.... trusty elf Nov 2015 #58
. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #63
Step #1 - Grasp reality. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #3
It sounds like the Onion roguevalley Nov 2015 #5
I had to check if it was a joke - seriously Jarqui Nov 2015 #8
I think past VP candidate Jarqui Nov 2015 #6
If they keep "hammering" the basic facts to him, he might catch on. valerief Nov 2015 #7
Wow - Clarridge said this on the record muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #9
It is his salvation by the lord that appeals to his voters Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #10
I wonder how the evangelical base will respond... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #19
The sect won't matter to them. Like "W," he speaks the language of believers. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #25
Yep! And we know Jeezus has his hand on his shoulder . . . brush Nov 2015 #40
The Republican party can play hard ball politics with the worst of them. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #45
Yep! brush Nov 2015 #46
..... trusty elf Nov 2015 #51
When your top advisors imply that you are, well, stupid.. NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #11
I still think something is wrong with him. murielm99 Nov 2015 #27
I think he's incapable of understanding. That's not his skill set. I worked with catbyte Nov 2015 #32
I agree Strelnikov_ Nov 2015 #33
That's implying a capacity of some sort to begin with davidpdx Nov 2015 #48
Agreed NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #74
don't worry Enrique Nov 2015 #12
If that's what his own advisers are saying I'm speechless. I mean, wow. Just...wow. Metric System Nov 2015 #13
Dr Ben Spacey doesn't have a very incisive mind, it seems. Hekate Nov 2015 #15
'The story prompted a stern response from the Carson campaign, elleng Nov 2015 #16
omg.. annabanana Nov 2015 #59
It's in the article AND it's FUNNY! elleng Nov 2015 #64
In what respect, Charlie? PSPS Nov 2015 #17
"Ben Carson Is Struggling" His own top advisers say stuff like that? he is toast, Fodder for Baggers Sunlei Nov 2015 #18
Will the Times, or any other major paper ask chapdrum Nov 2015 #20
they allow it because they would just assign a Cheney/Rumsfeld combo to him Skittles Nov 2015 #23
someone should evaluate Trump's grasp Skittles Nov 2015 #21
This sounds alot like Palin in the 2008 elections. bulloney Nov 2015 #22
He may be able to separate conjoined twins davidpdx Nov 2015 #24
Thread winner, IMO 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #28
Thank you, thank you very much davidpdx Nov 2015 #47
Excellent! trusty elf Nov 2015 #53
Love the picture, but he needs one of those Hannibal Lecter masks for good measure davidpdx Nov 2015 #54
Bennibal ! ! ! trusty elf Nov 2015 #56
Excellent! davidpdx Nov 2015 #72
OMFG. He's the 2016 version of Sarah Palin. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. catbyte Nov 2015 #29
^^^ Rec your Reply! ^^^ This! ^^^ nt Ilsa Nov 2015 #66
Is Ben Carson a Pakled in disguise? csziggy Nov 2015 #30
I loved that episode! "You are smart. You make things go." Demit Nov 2015 #35
"Carson struggling to grasp..." 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #31
They've spent two years trying to get him up to par and he still can't grasp the basics?! herding cats Nov 2015 #34
Duane "Dewey" Clarridge is an Iran-Contra action figure. Octafish Nov 2015 #36
Surgeons don't need to think critically LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2015 #37
Carson is an educated idiot, who appears to be heavily sedated. The insight offered in the WestSeattle2 Nov 2015 #38
Naaah, you don't say? Beacool Nov 2015 #41
Armstrong Williams is one of his advisors. no_hypocrisy Nov 2015 #43
Dr. Carson should stick to treating patients, and stay well away from office prouddemfromaustin44 Nov 2015 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #49
Something like this? Turbineguy Nov 2015 #52
Says a lot when two nutcases are fighting it out for the top of the GOP ticket. riversedge Nov 2015 #55
Inquiring minds want to know - Vinca Nov 2015 #57
Hillary has more foreign policy experience in her little finger than this Dr GOLGO 13 Nov 2015 #60
"Don't get high... They_Live Nov 2015 #61
Carson is a scary idiot Gothmog Nov 2015 #62
He's only running to promote his "brand". lark Nov 2015 #65
Ben, say hello to the underside of the bus. Darb Nov 2015 #67
I honestly feel bad for the guy. He's not Presidential material and will never be President, TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #68
It looks like he's struggling to stay awake CreekDog Nov 2015 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Nov 2015 #70
Did y'all see the resume of his adviser - Hestia Nov 2015 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author CarlaJonesChicago Nov 2015 #73

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
6. I think past VP candidate
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:30 PM
Nov 2015

Sarah Palin is available to help "make him smart" in foreign policy ..

After months of this contest being underway and some debates, this clown is currently very close to leading. Like Palin as a candidate for VP, that's just plain nuts. Like Palin, he's got a screw loose somewhere.

Meanwhile, the Dems have three sane and pretty decent candidates ... who could be swiftboated by big GOP money so an idiot like this can be president.

Kind of takes your breath away.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
10. It is his salvation by the lord that appeals to his voters
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:33 PM
Nov 2015

They think that God will whisper in his ear and tell him what to do.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. I wonder how the evangelical base will respond...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:32 PM
Nov 2015

once they know he is Seventh Day Adventist. Of course, they supported Romney.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
25. The sect won't matter to them. Like "W," he speaks the language of believers.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

Remember, "W" appealed and won right wing Christianity because he spike the language of belief.

brush

(53,771 posts)
40. Yep! And we know Jeezus has his hand on his shoulder . . .
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

and is thus close to his ear (see the self-commissioned portrait of Carson and the Messiah hanging in his house).

But seriously, I think the memo went out on Carson a couple of weeks ago when the repugs started realizing that he was leading the polls and may start winning the soon-to-come primaries.

All of a sudden details that were published long ago in his 1997 book were being released to the public — like his belief that pyramids were for grain storage, and the hammer incident with his mother, and of course his attempt at stabbing a friend.

Now his own adviser says he can't seem to grasp the concept of foreign policy.

He's being swift boated by his own party. It happens to them all, Keyes, Cain, Williams, Steele, et al.

So listen up uncle toms, this is what's happens when you've served your usefulness — that being a black candidate on center stage during the nationally televised debates to fool people into thinking that the repugs are not a racist party.

Game over now though, Ben Carson.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. When your top advisors imply that you are, well, stupid..
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:35 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)

...it's time to face reality. Oh wait, this is Ben Carson. Reality is a great mystery to him.

(Edited to correct a stupid grammatical mistake in the title)

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
27. I still think something is wrong with him.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:16 PM
Nov 2015

He may have a medical or emotional problem. If he can't grasp ME policy, maybe that is why.

I am serious. I have seen people who act this way after reacting badly to prescription drugs, or after a stroke or heart attack. Some people take a long time to come back after a serious illness. Some never do. Is he hiding something like this?

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
32. I think he's incapable of understanding. That's not his skill set. I worked with
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:23 PM
Nov 2015

physicians and other medical professionals in a university setting. They were brilliant in their field, but utterly incapable of holding up an intelligent conversation on any subject but medicine. Seriously. He reminds me so much of those instructors, it's scary.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
33. I agree
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:43 PM
Nov 2015

Starting to think his retirement was probably due to diminished capacity.

Something there is not right (beyond the obvious).

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
74. Agreed
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:40 PM
Nov 2015

I've said it before; I think he has a real mental problem. I'm not being facetious; I think he needs help.

elleng

(130,878 posts)
16. 'The story prompted a stern response from the Carson campaign,
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:04 PM
Nov 2015

which accused the Times of taking "advantage of an elderly gentleman."'

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. "Ben Carson Is Struggling" His own top advisers say stuff like that? he is toast, Fodder for Baggers
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:24 PM
Nov 2015

Who will be Republican King of the Hill?
I want to thank Republicans for the coming year of great, Saturday Night Lives.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
20. Will the Times, or any other major paper ask
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:35 PM
Nov 2015

the plainly obvious question?

Why does the Republican Party allow the "presidential" candidacy of people like Carson?

Well, they could explain it away by responding that at least Carson isn't running while under
federal indictment, as was Rick Perry.

The fact that the Times, et al. have yet to point out this blatant disregard for our country and
our system of government speaks very eloquently for itself.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
23. they allow it because they would just assign a Cheney/Rumsfeld combo to him
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:39 PM
Nov 2015

there are plenty of evil fucks willing to coach a repuke nitwit

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
22. This sounds alot like Palin in the 2008 elections.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:38 PM
Nov 2015

Her campaign leaked that she couldn't grasp and retain much of what they tried to teach her, too. She just went around like a loose cannon, appealing to the mouth-breathers who couldn't tell a thing about what she said because their minds were too occupied fantasizing getting into her pants.

I remember Palin giving her "drill baby drill" talk in Toledo to solar panel factory employees shortly before the elections. That's how goofy her campaign was.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
31. "Carson struggling to grasp..."
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:18 PM
Nov 2015

I believe the response to this obvious analysis would be, "No shit, Sherlock."

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
34. They've spent two years trying to get him up to par and he still can't grasp the basics?!
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:51 PM
Nov 2015

From the linked article.

Mr. Clarridge, who contacted Mr. Carson nearly two years ago to offer his services without pay, has helped the candidate prepare for debates. But the briefings do not always seem to sink in, Mr. Clarridge acknowledged. After Mr. Carson struggled on “Fox News Sunday” to say whom he would call first to form a coalition against the Islamic State, Mr. Clarridge called Mr. Williams, the candidate’s top adviser, in frustration. “We need to have a conference call once a week where his guys roll out the subjects they think will be out there, and we can make him smart,” Mr. Clarridge said he told Mr. Williams.

Mr. Williams, one of Mr. Carson’s closest friends, who does not have an official role in the campaign, also lamented the Fox News interview. “He’s been briefed on it so many times,” he said. “I guess he just froze.”


Now I'm not sure who terrifies me more, Carson or Cruz as a potential POTUS.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
36. Duane "Dewey" Clarridge is an Iran-Contra action figure.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:57 PM
Nov 2015

Volunteered his services, all right.

Now the brain surgeon's trying to get as far away from the guy as he can.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-duane-clarridge_564b9004e4b08cda348b3809

LOL. Such loyalty.

37. Surgeons don't need to think critically
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

When I went to law school I had a classmate who had just finished medical school. He told me law was much harder because you had to think and not just memorize.

A surgeon is just someone with a great memory, lots of cutting experience, and a huge ego (especially a neurosurgeon). Being smart in one field doesn't make you competent in others.
---

If I was going to kill myself, he said, I would climb to the top of your ego and jump all the way down to your I.Q.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
38. Carson is an educated idiot, who appears to be heavily sedated. The insight offered in the
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:12 PM
Nov 2015

article doesn't surprise me one bit. Most of us on DU had this clown figured out years ago.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
43. Armstrong Williams is one of his advisors.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:15 PM
Nov 2015

I used to listen to Armstrong on WWRL in NYC and he never got the issues right on his own show.

 
44. Dr. Carson should stick to treating patients, and stay well away from office
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:16 PM
Nov 2015

Seriously. We REALLY don't need another batshit insane rightwinger in the WH. We'll be doomed if he manages to be in charge.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
60. Hillary has more foreign policy experience in her little finger than this Dr
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 10:09 AM
Nov 2015

could even imagine understanding. This is their best & brightest? The 2016 version of Palin. I love it.

lark

(23,097 posts)
65. He's only running to promote his "brand".
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 02:53 PM
Nov 2015

Don't think he gives a crap about actually being president, just wants to make more money.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
68. I honestly feel bad for the guy. He's not Presidential material and will never be President,
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:13 PM
Nov 2015

but he had a good reputation in his previous field and did work that healed people's suffering. That's more than most politicians. I'm not sure who convinced him to run, but they didn't do him any favors.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
71. Did y'all see the resume of his adviser -
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 09:32 PM
Nov 2015
During the Reagan administration, he helped found the agency’s Counterterrorism Center and ran the C.I.A.’s Latin American division.

Indicted on charges of lying to Congress in the Iran-Contra scandal (he was later pardoned), Mr. Clarridge today runs a private network of intelligence sources, including, he said, experts on Iran, China and the Middle East, who have all briefed Mr. Carson in phone calls or Skype sessions.



It may just as well be good for all of us that BC can't grasp foreign policy. They just had to drag this guy out of mothballs?

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

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