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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 02:50 PM Aug 2015

Top Jeb fundraisers leave campaign amid troubling signs

Source: Politico

Three top Jeb Bush fundraisers abruptly parted ways with his presidential campaign on Friday, amid internal personality conflicts and questions about the strength of his candidacy, POLITICO has learned.

There are different versions of what transpired. The Florida-based fundraising consultants — Kris Money, Trey McCarley, and Debbie Aleksander — have said that they voluntarily quit the campaign and were still working with Bush's super PAC, Right to Rise Super PAC. Others said the three, who worked under the same contract, were let go because they were no longer needed for the current phase of the campaign.

None of the three responded to requests for comment. Bush spokesman Tim Miller would only say that “Governor Bush has the widest and deepest fundraising operation of any candidate in the field. Ann Herberger — a longtime aide with more than two decades of experience in state and national politics — will continue to lead the operation in Florida with our team in Miami.”

The departures came at a time of uncertainty for Bush. While he has had massive success raising money for his Super PAC, he is overseeing an official campaign that has many more staffers but far less money. Earlier this week, the New York Times revealed that it had taken steps to rein in some of its spending and had gone so far as to cut some employee salaries. And POLITICO reported one Bush fundraiser expressed concerns about the slowing pace of the campaign’s fundraising after Bush’s shaky debate performance.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/jeb-bush-president-2016-fundraisers-problems-213156

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Top Jeb fundraisers leave campaign amid troubling signs (Original Post) IDemo Aug 2015 OP
From the git-go HassleCat Aug 2015 #1
That is true but if not for The Donald he would still be viable. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #3
He wrecked himself fbc Aug 2015 #5
Three gaffes that I am aware of DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #7
Bush's problem isn't Trump, it's that he can't even beat out Carson for #2 fbc Aug 2015 #12
I think you're right HassleCat Aug 2015 #6
I would change one word, well actually a couple.. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #8
The truth is this is how all elections have been going for republicans running against each other trillion Aug 2015 #35
Clinton The Bushes Only Hope Now billhicks76 Aug 2015 #32
+1 Chemisse Aug 2015 #18
Rats leaving a sinking ship Gothmog Aug 2015 #2
Yeah, it's going to be Trump because they've got nobody else. fbc Aug 2015 #4
Despite the hype he should be easy to beat... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #9
And women. briv1016 Aug 2015 #10
Thank you... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #11
No intelligent woman would vote for him. Chemisse Aug 2015 #19
I concur... He is a sexist and misogynist. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #20
Is he pro-choice? nt PassingFair Aug 2015 #28
Yes he is. Chemisse Aug 2015 #31
Oh yeah, last I saw Bernie had 20 points on him nationally fbc Aug 2015 #13
Over 400 million people in this country have been schooled, since birth, to think that Evilhair is jtuck004 Aug 2015 #15
He a radical right tea party parrot acting like he came up with his racsim. He's said nothing new. trillion Aug 2015 #36
Enjoy your name calling. His supporters really don't give a rat's ass. Most of them jtuck004 Aug 2015 #37
if the dem gets 80 lancer78 Aug 2015 #34
I heard a pollster say that with the natural growth of the non white vote DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #39
As Porky Pig use to say............................ turbinetree Aug 2015 #14
Jeb is far from done thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #16
I wish I didn't agree with you, but I do. sorechasm Aug 2015 #25
The real danger for Jeb is thebighobgoblin Aug 2015 #27
The money says Jeb Bush John Poet Aug 2015 #38
And the nation is spared Demeter Aug 2015 #17
If or when Trump crashes and burns, somebody has to be there to run for president. Chemisse Aug 2015 #21
Ben Carson and Ted Cruz will be there rpannier Aug 2015 #26
Man, is he gonna catch hell at thanksgiving. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #22
It would be sooo entertaining to watch bush truthisfreedom Aug 2015 #23
Nope - Bush is still in it - and will be the asiliveandbreathe Aug 2015 #24
Jeb's just one more red herring in the clown car. Miles Archer Aug 2015 #29
Good for Bushie Thespian2 Aug 2015 #30
He certainly doesn't seem to think on his feet very well. 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #33
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. From the git-go
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:00 PM
Aug 2015

Jeb started his campaign by wondering whether or not he really wanted to run. After such a decisive kick-off, he showed a tendency to think out loud and make odd public pronouncements. Other than name recognition, he seems to have little going for himself.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Three gaffes that I am aware of
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:42 PM
Aug 2015

-Iraq
-anchor baby
- funding for female health care...

But that pales,imho, to the absolute shellacking he gets from Trump on a daily basis.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
12. Bush's problem isn't Trump, it's that he can't even beat out Carson for #2
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:56 PM
Aug 2015

The republican establishment would have been happy for Bush to be trailing Trump. They have plenty of time and lots of money to put a candidate over the top later. The problem is, they don't have a single acceptable candidate who is even able to run #2.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
6. I think you're right
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:40 PM
Aug 2015

Jeb was the most exciting in a bland field of candidates, until the Donald showed up and stole his thunder.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I would change one word, well actually a couple..
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

Jeb was the most viable in a middling field of candidates, until the Donald showed up and clowned him every single day.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
35. The truth is this is how all elections have been going for republicans running against each other
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:44 AM
Aug 2015

since the Tea Party showed up. The craziest and most racist wins. If they don't compete to be the most racists their base abandon them. Trump is just another candidate parroting what the rest of the radical right has been saying. And Bush has been trod right over by the radical right, just like all the republicans have by tea party candidates for the last decade.
The only one who will beat trump, is who out crazies him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Despite the hype he should be easy to beat...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:47 PM
Aug 2015

The high water mark for winning white votes was 1984 when Reagan received a whopping 64% of the white vote! I have to see the math but the way Trump has dissed blacks, Latinos, and Asians he will likely have to surpass it...

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
31. Yes he is.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 06:34 PM
Aug 2015

Presumably whoever would oppose him in a general election would also be pro-choice, so that issue alone would not help him win female votes.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
13. Oh yeah, last I saw Bernie had 20 points on him nationally
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 03:59 PM
Aug 2015

And that's with around 40% of the population still marking Bernie as "never heard of him".

Clinton though, that could be a tough one with Trump running to the left of her on some very important issues.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
15. Over 400 million people in this country have been schooled, since birth, to think that Evilhair is
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 04:09 PM
Aug 2015

the shiz. That he is what we should emulate. If you are poor, get rich. If you are black, get white.

It is a society completely steeped in white privilege and hypocrisy, and you think just because that master says we are dirty, we might be offended?

"I saved a thousand slaves. I could have saved a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves".
Harriet Tubman

You may be right. This is a new day, that was long ago.

But a fella named Jay "I can hire one-half of the working force to kill the other half" Gould worked in a currency that sometimes surpasses our personal characteristics. That was a long time ago too.

Evilhair works in the same currency today. That may become more important going forward, whether he is really the candidate or a shield for his second.


 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
36. He a radical right tea party parrot acting like he came up with his racsim. He's said nothing new.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 03:48 AM
Aug 2015
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
37. Enjoy your name calling. His supporters really don't give a rat's ass. Most of them
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:58 AM
Aug 2015

probably think those are great things to be.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
34. if the dem gets 80
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 01:21 AM
Aug 2015

Percent of the non-white vote overall, then a republican will need 62.9% of the white vote to win.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
39. I heard a pollster say that with the natural growth of the non white vote
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 09:34 AM
Aug 2015

I heard a pollster say that with the natural growth of the non white vote if the GOP candidates doesn't improve among non white voters he will need to get 64% or 65% of the white vote to win, wow!!!

That's actually higher than the percentage of the white vote Reagan got against Mondale in his 84 landslide!!!

And don't forget Trump hasn't just dissed Latinos...He has dissed blacks, Asians, and Jews at one time or another.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
14. As Porky Pig use to say............................
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 04:06 PM
Aug 2015


Honk------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
16. Jeb is far from done
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 04:23 PM
Aug 2015

I think it's waaay too early to be declaring the candidate who by far has the most money raised...'finished'. We're talking about the guy with a presidential pedigree, a former governor of an electoral college crown jewel, and we haven't really even begun the election cycle in earnest.

If anything, it's a sign that Bush probably took this early phase of the campaign a little too lightly. He and the other establishment candidates have been caught off guard by the early 'noise' of Trump. Compounding the problem is that you have about 10-12 other half-baked delusional candidates who do absolutely nothing except distract voters. All Bush has to do is wait for the field to narrow, and he'll be fine.

My guess is that the friction has to do with how to deal with Trump. You probably have some saying he should wait for the rest of the field to fall off and you probably have others who are hyperventilating and telling him to go after Trump more aggressively. Another problem, too, is the debate rules, with debates limited to the top 10 (?) candidates in the polls? There could come a point where if Bush doesn't respond he may get lost in the crowd. He needs to step up the advertising, but I can't see how someone with that much cash doesn't make it to January and doesn't become a force once he's on the screen.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
25. I wish I didn't agree with you, but I do.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 05:26 PM
Aug 2015

The GOP knows that only Jeb can garner any votes from non-whites, without which they have no chance at the White House. They're not going to let him fade away, I'm sorry to say.

Be prepared to hear about the 'Come Back Kid', after he wins one primary. Jeb's narrative has to be written months in advance because he needs that much time to memorize the scripts.

 

thebighobgoblin

(179 posts)
27. The real danger for Jeb is
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 05:55 PM
Aug 2015

taking Trump so seriously that he starts losing the trademark Bush political discipline. If his campaign starts panicking now he risks saying a lot of crap that he might be increasingly difficult to walk back - his anchor baby comments come to mind, for example. He risks painting himself into a corner that he might not easily get out of.

If that happens, then I suspect that the real danger is not Donald the Clown, but John Kasich the former governor of the other electoral college crown jewel state. I think Bush will eventually get his shit together but Kasich just might be a force to be reckon with. I suspect he will be.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
38. The money says Jeb Bush
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:20 AM
Aug 2015

might end up as the last man standing against Trump who has any cred with the Republican establishment.

He doesn't look too good right now, but his PAC still has over $100 million...

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
21. If or when Trump crashes and burns, somebody has to be there to run for president.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 04:45 PM
Aug 2015

Unless or until one of the other candidates gets a foothold, that is likely to be Bush.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
26. Ben Carson and Ted Cruz will be there
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 05:47 PM
Aug 2015

I mean this field is deeper than their 1980 field



I just won't say what it's deep in

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
23. It would be sooo entertaining to watch bush
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 05:04 PM
Aug 2015

F up his chances completely. This election cycle is like a welterweight boxing competition on the 'puke side.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
24. Nope - Bush is still in it - and will be the
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 05:12 PM
Aug 2015

republican nominee...and then he is done! - Trump is just all bluster..there is no way he can win Nationally with all he has maligned.....

Bush cannot win the WH, just look at his foreign affairs advisors ..Georgie took care of that - but, the republican electorate - nope - IMHO trump is NOT their man..if you want to call him that -

This story takes so many twists and turns...headline is misleading...Bush has the Kochs ears and their money..waldowalker was their man - but they see the writing on the wall with that droopy eyed nut....

We are over 400 days to Nov 2016..so much will change..and it is going to get even nastier....

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
29. Jeb's just one more red herring in the clown car.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 06:08 PM
Aug 2015

I'd like to say with complete confidence that we'll never see another Bush in the White House, but I'm not sure I believe that.

What I DO believe is that 2016 just isn't Jebby's year, no matter how much he may WANT it to be.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
33. He certainly doesn't seem to think on his feet very well.
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:06 AM
Aug 2015

How many times can one claim to have misspoken and still make it credible?

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