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aggiesal

(8,958 posts)
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:41 PM May 2012

Could Feds Yanks Broadcast Rights from Fox News?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by maddezmom (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: GOPUSA

Big Brother is watching, and in particular, he's watching over Fox News. Apparently left wingers are constantly complaining to shut down the network, and FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski is listening, saying in recent congressional testimony that complaints about Fox are taken "very seriously."

Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Julius Genachowski testified Wednesday that his agency takes calls to cancel Fox's broadcast licenses "very seriously."

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Read more: http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2012/05/10/fcc-fox-licenses/?subscriber=1



These are OUR airwaves. They belong to us.
To be able to get a license to use our airwaves, broadcasters
should be mandated that they not broadcast mis-information.

With all the mis-information that Fox News pumps out everyday,
I'm wondering why its taken this long to yank their license.

Hope it happens soon. Tomorrow isn't fast enough.
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Could Feds Yanks Broadcast Rights from Fox News? (Original Post) aggiesal May 2012 OP
The First Amendment allows them to broadcast their crap The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #1
Yes it is their right SoutherDem May 2012 #4
Well said Meiko May 2012 #6
I have no problem with free speech. aggiesal May 2012 #7
I'm with you on the free speech thing. But there are issues of false advertising, 20score May 2012 #9
Do not call it news then. I'm no expert but as a "news" channel they may have Malikshah May 2012 #20
FCC can come down on the usage of "news". They have a public obligation to report news not lies. firehorse May 2012 #2
If they find News Corp to be a criminal enterprise, couldn't that affect their license? alfredo May 2012 #5
Not just "left wingers" but most in the 'reality based community' see thru FOX FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #3
Yes, but the problem is . . . aggiesal May 2012 #10
I'll believe it when I see it... Brooklyn Dame May 2012 #8
They could, but they won't. DavidDvorkin May 2012 #11
I don't know for sure what the FCC could do... WCGreen May 2012 #12
Right now Fox Turbineguy May 2012 #13
They should be fining FOX for lies abelenkpe May 2012 #14
Kind of a slippery slope IMHO. Ignoring them is the best way. virgogal May 2012 #15
Politically, it would be a very stupid thing to do and would be seen (accurately) as trying to 24601 May 2012 #16
MSNBC does not use airwaves ... aggiesal May 2012 #18
maybe, but simpy lying won't be the grounds stupidicus May 2012 #17
Fox News is not "BROADCAST," as I understand it; they're cable. October May 2012 #19
Fox "News" has the 1st amendment freedom to tell lies, but... OverBurn May 2012 #21
I sure hope so. Fox is just a source of propaganda collected illegally...not news source! Auntie Bush May 2012 #22
Broadcast licenses don't include cable thesquanderer May 2012 #23
I think that would be Fox TV Stations (those owned by NewsCorp), not Fox News fishwax May 2012 #24
The problem is much of the MSM have been hijacked by the right wing crunch60 May 2012 #25
Can the FCC revoke Fox's broadcast licenses? Theoretically yes. Realistically no. onenote May 2012 #26
locking maddezmom May 2012 #27

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,985 posts)
1. The First Amendment allows them to broadcast their crap
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:46 PM
May 2012

and that's the way it should be.

The remedy for bad speech is more speech, not suppression.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
4. Yes it is their right
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

The fact that so many people listen and believe them is the issue not their right to broadcast.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
6. Well said
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:53 PM
May 2012

today the FCC is silencing them, tomorrow they are silencing you. I am not saying that broadcasters should not be held to a certain standard but when you start banning certain groups it's a road we don't want to go down.. IMHO.

aggiesal

(8,958 posts)
7. I have no problem with free speech.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:57 PM
May 2012

But they should not be entitled to use OUR airwaves to blatantly lie.
This is a gross mistrust of the license.

20score

(4,769 posts)
9. I'm with you on the free speech thing. But there are issues of false advertising,
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

lies and what label should be applied.

The FCC does have an extremely important roll to play with regard to information provided to the public. It's not hyperbole to say in a democracy the public needs correct information in order to make correct decisions. Fox does not give correct information by any objective standard, therefore they should not be allowed to be labeled, 'news.'

It's entertainment, at best. (Insulting, moronic and sadistic entertainment, but it's not news.)

Malikshah

(4,818 posts)
20. Do not call it news then. I'm no expert but as a "news" channel they may have
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:20 PM
May 2012

special leeway. Strip them of their "news" credentials/press credentials, and go from there.

This is not a free speech issue; it is about journalistic integrity. As a News channel, I would assume they have to adhere to specific criteria.

As they aren't, then require that they are re categorized.

firehorse

(755 posts)
2. FCC can come down on the usage of "news". They have a public obligation to report news not lies.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:48 PM
May 2012

The Murdoch empire keeps collapsing.

alfredo

(60,082 posts)
5. If they find News Corp to be a criminal enterprise, couldn't that affect their license?
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

FailureToCommunicate

(14,033 posts)
3. Not just "left wingers" but most in the 'reality based community' see thru FOX
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:48 PM
May 2012

Or refuse to see it at all!

aggiesal

(8,958 posts)
10. Yes, but the problem is . . .
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:02 PM
May 2012

Fox doesn't charge any of the cable or satellite companies to broadcast their garbage,
because their media empire can cover any loses from not charging for Fox.

While CNN, MSNBC, CurTV . . . charge, thus making the cable and satellite companies pass
the charges onto the consumer.

Also, Fox signs agreements with places like McDonalds and Hotel chains to broadcast
their channel exclusively.

It's hard to get away from these $OB's

Brooklyn Dame

(169 posts)
8. I'll believe it when I see it...
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:58 PM
May 2012

...and seeing the collapse of that horribly destructive and divisive network would be a cause for celebration.

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2011/09/a-fox-news-haiku/

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/04/rumor-has-it/

DavidDvorkin

(19,510 posts)
11. They could, but they won't.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:11 PM
May 2012

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
12. I don't know for sure what the FCC could do...
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:16 PM
May 2012

As long as the cable company doesn't broadcast say MS NBC or CNN, then there really isn't all that much they can do about it.

They could look over the license when it is up for review, but those are yanked very rarely if ever these days.

Turbineguy

(37,415 posts)
13. Right now Fox
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:21 PM
May 2012

with their crap and lies is the Democratic Party's best friend.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
14. They should be fining FOX for lies
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:27 PM
May 2012

And use anti trust laws to break up fox and all large media corporations

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
15. Kind of a slippery slope IMHO. Ignoring them is the best way.
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

24601

(3,967 posts)
16. Politically, it would be a very stupid thing to do and would be seen (accurately) as trying to
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

silence the administration's critics. As popular as FDR was, when he tried to pack the USSC, he was raked over the coals.

And if it was successful (which I believe it would not), what's to stop the next administration from using the precedent to bump off MSNBC.

And from a technical perspective, does FNC even broadcast a signal, or do you have to have to have cable/FIOS/DISH, etc to pick them up? Didn't Howard Stern get around the decency regulations by going off RF broadcast?

Edit for spelling

aggiesal

(8,958 posts)
18. MSNBC does not use airwaves ...
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:47 PM
May 2012

They only use cable.

They could go after NBS though.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
17. maybe, but simpy lying won't be the grounds
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:36 PM
May 2012

for which they do it

this has always been one of the main reasons why I've scoffed at rightwingnuts scoffing at lefty sources on news items, and promoting the "liberal" media myth. If the corporate owned MSM was truly liberal, neither Fox nor Bush would have survived his reign of error and terror.

http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html

October

(3,363 posts)
19. Fox News is not "BROADCAST," as I understand it; they're cable.
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:17 PM
May 2012

That's why they get away with lies and shenanigans, because they are not subject to the Broadcast rules.

OverBurn

(969 posts)
21. Fox "News" has the 1st amendment freedom to tell lies, but...
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:25 PM
May 2012

they should not be able to call it News. They should be required to announce before each show that this is not real news and they are opinion based programs and not based on fact.

Any program that states it is News should be held to a higher standard, cable or network TV.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
22. I sure hope so. Fox is just a source of propaganda collected illegally...not news source!
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:51 PM
May 2012

thesquanderer

(12,001 posts)
23. Broadcast licenses don't include cable
Thu May 10, 2012, 10:52 PM
May 2012

so this doesn't have any impact on Fox "News."

fishwax

(29,150 posts)
24. I think that would be Fox TV Stations (those owned by NewsCorp), not Fox News
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:05 PM
May 2012

"News Corp. owns 27 Fox stations in the United States."

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
25. The problem is much of the MSM have been hijacked by the right wing
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:42 PM
May 2012

propaganda machine. They are paid very well for spewing out lies and inciting violence and hatred between our diverse cultures. Divide and Conquer.
We need many more liberal voices on our public airways to give balance and choice to what people hear and are exposed to.

If Rupert Murdoch and his ilk go down and take Roger Ailes/Fox with him, so be it. That would be a good thing.

onenote

(42,831 posts)
26. Can the FCC revoke Fox's broadcast licenses? Theoretically yes. Realistically no.
Thu May 10, 2012, 11:57 PM
May 2012

The argument being made by those advocating pulling the Fox licenses is the requirement that broadcast licensees have "good character" and that violations of law committed by News Corp. in connection with the phone hacking scandal disqualify them from holding US broadcast licenses.

The problem is that the it takes quite a bit to lose a license -- it hardly ever happens and its pretty much inconceivable that it would happen here. The most famous case involving the revocation of broadcast licenses involved RKO General. The case arose out of alleged bribery and other crimes by General Tire, the parent company of RKO General. I worked on this case as a young lawyer in the early 1980s. By that time the case was already over a decade old. ANd in the end, while FCC did rule against RKO, the reason wasn't because of the underlying bribery etc., but rather because, during the case itself RKO demonstrated a lack of candor in statements it made to the FCC about its actions.

So don't hold your breath. And don't read anything -- anything at all -- into the FCC Chairman's statement that the FCC takes the matter "seriously." What do you think he's going to say when being questioned by Senator Lautenberg -- that the FCC doesn't give a crap or that they think its silly? Of course not. Its just empty words.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
27. locking
Fri May 11, 2012, 08:49 AM
May 2012

Commentary from a RW news source is not Latest Breaking News.

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