ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi Sexually Abused American Hostage Kayla Mueller, Officials Say
Source: ABC News
Before her death earlier this year, American hostage Kayla Mueller was repeatedly raped by the top leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, according to counter-terrorism officials.
Mueller's family confirmed to ABC News that government officials have told them that their daughter, who would have turned 27 today, was the victim of repeated sexual assaults by al-Baghdadi.
"We were told Kayla was tortured, that she was the property of al-Baghdadi. We were told that in June by the government," Kayla's parents, Carl and Marsha Mueller, told ABC News today.
Al-Baghdadi, an Iraqi who calls himself "Caliph" as ruler of the Islamic State, personally brought the enslaved 26-year-old humanitarian aid worker from Prescott, Arizona, to be imprisoned inside the home of Abu Sayyaf, a Tunisian in charge of oil and gas revenue for the group, counter-terrorism officials have told ABC News over the past several months.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923
Is there any definition of complete evil greater than this?
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mcar
(42,307 posts)I cannot even imagine what Kayla experienced. 
6chars
(3,967 posts)
blm
(113,052 posts)?
6chars
(3,967 posts)i think there may be a humanitarian case for greater military action against them just what is dictated by strategic considerations. that doesn't have to be a US war -- the UN might to be able to agree that the ISIS glorification and practice of rape (there is a lot more coming out on this now) merits an international intervention force to find and rescue the women who are being held and abused or to otherwise disrupt the practice. my sense is this has not been a consideration in selection of targets.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)The reason I have heard for Americans not being on the ground is that unless they have the governance and military power themselves to defeat them, as soon as we leave an area they will reclaim it -as they did in Afganistan.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Not if there are no "they" left to carry out their rape, murder, pillage and plundering.
Syzygy321
(583 posts)is unlimited.
Trying to get rid of them is like digging a hole in water.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Iraquis when we invaded their country?
Feel free to google that and the other abuses that we made more prevalent in our little war on terror.
They got very little on us.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)US troops have sent suicide bombers to purposely kill innocent civilians,
There is no comparison of US military to ISIS and your equating our military to those savages is beyond the pale.
24601
(3,961 posts)life for rape of a young Iraqi teenager and her & her family's murder.
I haven't seen any evidence of any trials ISIL has held for any of its people committing atrocities.
And this story wasn't about a foot soldier, but ISIL's so-called Caliph, equivalent to the Commander In Chief, Prime Minister and Chief Justice - all rolled into one deranged apostate POS.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)But I have heard you before,,,
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.
Voltaire
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)When was the last time a cop suicided himself to take out a bunch of innocent civilians?
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Democat
(11,617 posts)I'd like to see one thread about evil somewhere in the world where someone here doesn't find a way to turn it around and attack America.
Lizzie Poppet
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ChazII
(6,204 posts)the United States is to blame for all that is wrong. Even if the wrong predates the finding of North America. 
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)
JI7
(89,248 posts)They aren't misled victims.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)I'm sick. I'm not going to tell her about this. Fuck these pieces of garbage.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)But, sadly, don't you think she is likely to find out, given that it has been reported in the news?
snort
(2,334 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Maybe it's because it's contemporary and we are experiencing it now. I am sure that atrocity has no measure. It's all equally horrible.
Archae
(46,327 posts)He had on a Rolex.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)It's not as if the modern combined technology can't locate this filth and return their elements back to nature.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)such as cell phones, satellite phones and radios which can be intercepted in real time or near real time and are relying on land lines and messengers instead. They are also probably moving their locations on a regular basis.
IS, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda have all learned the hard way that using cell phones, satellite phones and radios often means either a Hellfire missile or a GPS guided bomb impacting where they arewith the expected results.
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msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
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onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)to her parents about something so hideous happening to their child?
ericson00
(2,707 posts)
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Because, that is exactly what it is sounding like from the replies above. Proof other than abcnews.
potone
(1,701 posts)Isn't it bad enough that she was killed? Why would the government let the parents know the hell she went through before she died? That will haunt them forever.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Bani Mustaliq was a branch of the tribe of Khuza’ah who were the neighbors of Quraysh, the tribe of the prophet Muhammad. They were a free Arab tribe, not Jews or Christians. In the sixth year of the migration, Muhammad, under the invented pretext that Bani Mustaliq wanted to besiege Medina, took his gang of the Muhajirs (emigrants from Mecca who followed Muhammad to Medina; also called “Companions”) and the Ansar (those of the people of Medina who joined Muhammad and became Muslims), and attacked Bani Mustaliq by the Well of Marysi’. As a result of the “bloody battle,” ten men of Bani Mustaliq and one of the Companions were killed, gaining Muhammad a triumphant victory over the “idolatries.” Consequently, a large booty fell to the hands of the army of Islam, and the women of the enemy were an important part of that booty.
You may have supposed that Muhammad, described by Muslim scholars as ”the most merciful of all men,” immediately ordered his army to show mercy on them, but the truth is that he did not.
The troops composed of the first Muslim “saints” and “martyrs,” and commanded by Muhammad in person, started to rape 200 women whose husbands were not dead, and were in fact only a few feet from the site of the rapes. I repeat: 200 captured women of the tribe (expressly said to be free women and not slaves, “kara’im al ‘Arab”, Halabi ii 296) were raped by Muhammad’s men with his full consent! And what did “the most perfect of all men” do? He recommended to his men the means to prevent conception! To make the situation even more cynical, the Muslims, when they got bored of Bani Mustaliq women, made the husbands buy back their raped wives.
Unless people in the Islamic world rise against this in every city and unless we threaten to nuke Riyadh in order to end Saudi support of these fanatics, this will continue.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)The text you quoted is not from this page.
Where is it from?
And what is it's primary source?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)It chronicles the history of Mohammad's early conquests where women were raped and the women's fathers/husbands paid a ransom to rescue them. This is exactly what ISIS has been doing.
The original source is Al Waqidi (a devout Muslim) and his book "Kitab Al Maghazi".
https://books.google.com/books?id=-Z4nAAAAQBAJ&dq=inauthor%3A%22Muhammad+Ibn+Umar+Waqidi%22&q=Bani+Mustaliq+wanted+to+besiege++Medina%2C+took+his+gang+of+the+Muhajirs+#v=onepage&q=Marysi%27&f=false
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Here it is:
http://chersonandmolschky.com/tag/muslim-rapists/
From an article called Why Muslims Rape.
Hardly a scholarly article, but more a anti-Muslim polemic
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)This is the source of your cut-and-paste.
http://chersonandmolschky.com/tag/muslim-rapists/
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)In any event, the depicted events are historically verified.
Why argue about the source?
ISIS is a bunch of scumbags .. or do you disagree with that as well?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Al Waquidi is not involved in any way with this quote. This was written in 1917. He had been dead for hundreds of years by then.
So, your quote is bullshit.
If you have historic verification you need to provide it. You clearly don't.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Here is the real author of the quote, a British Christian missionary to Egypt, and it was written almost a hundred years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Temple_Gairdner
William Henry Temple Gairdner (July 31, 1873 – May 22, 1928) was a British Christian missionary with the Church Missionary Society in Cairo, Egypt. His entire life was dedicated to service in Egypt as he himself commented when he was first preparing to leave.[1] While in Cairo he partnered with his dear friend Douglas M. Thornton in order to reach educated Muslims with the gospel of Jesus Christ. This dynamic duo held many lectures in their home, Beit Arabi Pasha, and wrote a weekly magazine titled Orient and Occident. After Thornton's death in 1907 Gairdner continued his work in Cairo but was never able to recapture the amount of work that was accomplished when Thornton was at his side. It was this lack of help that would plague his ministry until the day of his death in 1928. Gairdner was a prolific writer and scholar of Arabic. He showed much promise to contribute greatly in theological and scholarly circles of Islam but instead chose to serve the local church in Cairo.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Gairdner/camouflage.htm
This was written in 1917.
The occassion was after the overthrow of the Bani Mustaliq at the wells of Marasi', when many of the two hundred captured women of the tribe (expressly said to be free women and not slaves, kara'im al 'Arab Halabi ii 296) were raped by Mohammed's men with his full consent10! There can be no doubt about the facts; they are narrated by all the most reputed of the Traditionalists, and by at least two of the historians11: so much so that a certain point in the Shari'a itself is settled by reference to the incident12. The violated wives had actually still to be bought back by their husbands. We refrain from translating the passage in full, for the simple reason that it is really unprintable. The prejudiced Muir and other Christian historians (until "Caetini"!) have.... kept silent on the incident! Let not their generosity however be now represented as a silent verdict on their part that the incident is spurious. The authority is far too strong, as we saw. And who would have invented such things? And even supposing the incident is spurious, it was and is accepted by Islam as absolute truth, — except of course when Christians are in the neighborhood.
hollowdweller
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David__77
(23,372 posts)I suspect that a reformation of Islam might blossom from humanity's utter revulsion at what passes for Islam from the likes of these.
agincourt
(1,996 posts)when a real threat shows up, the country is too broke and weakened to fight them.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)Americans to realize that they need to work with the Syria govt to defeat this menace. How many dead Syrian women? how many dead Syrian military men? how much destruction of Syrian society would it take to change our strategy in Syria?
I truly hope this is the turning point. The Syrians have suffered enough
Chan790
(20,176 posts)The Syrian regime under Bashar al-Assad is simply bad enough that there will never be any acceptable solution that allows them to remain in power. It's all churning water in this war for the western powers until a viable non-IS, non-Assad option becomes available.
At the risk of being cute, it's like saying "choose between Stalin and the Martians from War of the Worlds." There is no less bad option between evil options so none will be considered.
What we really need is a dead al-Baghdadi and a dead al-Assad so that their respective factions might be curbed and new power entities can rise to fill the void.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)we have in Libya? No thank you, the Syrian people have shed too much blood for the terrorists to take over the country now.
Anyone else find it funny that the US, Saudis, Turks, ISIS, Al Qaeda, FSA etc etc are all on the same side of the fight i.e. fighting for the removal of Assad and destruction of secular Syrian society while majority of the Syrian people, the Russians, the Iranians, the Christians, the shias, druz and other minority groups are all fighting for secular independent Syria.
And who can blame them for resisting western imperialism after seeing what they did to Libya?
Viva SAA, Viva Syrian people
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)they can"t find him.
rip kayla
