Scott Walker calls for more militaristic America: US needs to ‘put steel in the face of our enemies’
Source: Reuters
Republican presidential candidate Scott Walker had a steep learning curve on foreign policy after some early off-key statements. Now an eager student of global affairs, is staking out positions that play well to conservatives but lack a lot of nuance.
This was clear from a weekend bus tour the Wisconsin governor took across Iowa and earlier stops in South Carolina as part of the campaign swing he took in the week after becoming the 15th candidate to seek the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.
He saw no need for diplomatic niceties in response to the Iran nuclear deal that President Barack Obama negotiated with Tehran: He would terminate it as soon as possible and persuade U.S. allies to join Washington in imposing more crippling economic sanctions on Tehran.
This is not a country we should be doing business with, he said in Davenport, Iowa, reminding the crowd of Irans holding of 52 American hostages in 1979. This is one of the leading state sponsors of terrorism.
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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/scott-walker-calls-for-more-militaristic-america-us-needs-to-put-steel-in-the-face-of-our-enemies/
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Hey Scott, Poppy Bush "Did business" with the Iranians, negotiating to have them keep the hostages longer so Ronald Reagan could win the election. Have a problem with that too?
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)The first thing he pledges to do if elected is to buy a bunch of steel from China, since he advocates sending manufacturing jobs overseas.
trusty elf
(7,393 posts)typical re-
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cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)almost been acting like they are in some sort of competition to out do the last.
ananda
(28,860 posts)Said in an Irish accent. lol
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Sounds a bit like Big Brother's vision of the future to me.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Scott would LOVE to put "steel in the face" of his current favorite enemies, the faculty of the University of Wisconsin.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)it's the business end of a .40 cal semi-auto. That's more Walker's style.
marmar
(77,080 posts)...... He's a mindless drone.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)Do not take this guy for granted. He's well backed, well banked, and from what I've seen/heard/read, he's a smooth-talking slickster who can sell you the shirt right off of your back. Forget Jeb - this is the guy the right wing money wants in "their" White House.
GOTV!!!!!
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Scott Walker has one job- making the corporatists' extreme agenda seem like well-reasoned common sense- and he does that job very well. In that sense he is very much like his hero Ronny Raygun.
mopinko
(70,103 posts)i think he will be their boy.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Never seeing a war they haven't loved.
ck4829
(35,076 posts)And that's how you channel Reagan.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)and while he's spoon feeding his hardcore base, he's losing everybody else. Keep talking big mouth.
Botany
(70,504 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)My money would be on Iran, although you really can't rule out Syria, North Korea, China, Russia, or the local meeting of the Madison P.T.A.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)than this pile of derp.
Botany
(70,504 posts)This dog knows more about foreign policy then Walker.
"Steel in their faces." We have 230,000 combat vets w/taumatic brian injuries
from the last two wars and walker wants to make more?
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)riversedge
(70,216 posts)boys --college age -would join the military?? NOPE!! IMHO
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riversedge
(70,216 posts)that his message of fighting the unions and teachers is catching on!!! Remember he keeps saying he stood up to the unions and will will stand up to Iran, Russia, NK. (fill in the country)
......He would dramatically increase U.S. military spending after budget cuts that military officials have complained about.
The United States needs a foreign policy that puts steel in the face of our enemies, Walker says.
This kind of talk is welcome to conservatives who dominate the Republican Party in Iowa and who may award him with a victory in the Iowa caucuses on Feb. 1, the first nominating contest on the road to the November 2016 election.
Walker leads in Iowa and needs a win to gain momentum in the contests that follow like Feb. 9 in New Hampshire, where his standing is not as strong.
What he said is exactly what we need to do, said Judy Jamison of Bettendorf, after hearing Walker speak in Davenport. Hes shown in Wisconsin that hes not going to be intimidated.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)his tactic of breaking up unions and taking jobs away from hard-working skilled people might leave them in a position where they feel like the military is their best option. So he gets to screw the working person and beef up the military. He is truly evil.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Democrats, because that's whose minds he would be changing.
Time for a different strategy when things are "catching on". 'Cause it means the one you have as an opponent is failing.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Kind of like Queen for a Day, but not as funny.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)"I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell."-William Tecumseh Sherman.
jalan48
(13,865 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,147 posts)Fantasy boy.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)President, the first thing he would do is start a War, and then he would probably close down the entire Veterans Administration because in his mind, who needs them. Let the broken Vets fend for themselves!!! This guy is dangerous.. He would lead this entire country into hell and beyond.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)That is his ethos exactly. Scott Walker is a sociopath, and once you no longer serve a purpose, who needs you?
By the way, I am almost sure he would also eliminate the N.E.A. and E.P.A., and he'd drastically cut N.I.H. and N.S.F. But don't worry, all of this will buy you a nice twenty dollar tax cut!
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Self-serving rhetoric and action versus selfless rhetoric and action....Walker and kin versus Obama, fake Jesus scripture versus real Jesus scripture, wake the fuck up conservative America and shut off the paranoid voices beamed into your life by self-serving and selfish media voices....they are lying, and you are being used.
Again. Just wake the fuck up.
I swear, sometimes I wish FEMA re-education camps were for real, and Jade Holm is about Obama's Kenyan SS invading Texas, but of course only so as to get some folks some long needed mental therapy.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)If Scotty's basis for not doing business with a nation is past conflict, then he should add England, Germany, Italy, Spain, Japan, Vietnam, China, Mexico, much of South America to his list. Actually much of the world with several exceptions.
Reagan, Bush. and Cheney didn't agree with Scotty.... Iran/Contra.
riversedge
(70,216 posts)Walker is not a forgiving man--he holds grudges. Not a good trait for a President.
Walker's Enemies List
By capper
7/19/15 8:00am
.......................was ousted from Scott Walker's presidential campaign announcement event.
My friend, Bert, also had a negative experience when he tried to attend the event. In his own words, as he wrote for Cognitive Dissidence:
I printed out my ticket. I cleaned up a bit and even raised my clothing game to business casual. Then I drove across Waukesha Monday to the Scott Walker campaign announcement extravaganza at the county fairgrounds. What happened once I made it to the first entrance and handed the ticket to a smiling young woman is both appalling and entirely predictable.................
The flow of people from the parking lot brought me to the entrance, a temporary shade tent where attendees were channeled by tables through three lines. The friendly woman scanned the code on my printout, said okay as it beeped recognition, and then called me back as she looked at the hand-held gizmo's screen. It's been rejected, she said in a surprised tone.
Then she pointed me to the far row of tables to talk to another aide there. The young red-headed man named Nathan started punching at his pad and looking at the ticket. He wasn't resolving the rejection right away, asked for me email and then said this with his eyes on the pad: "Oh, did you sign the recall?"
"Yes," I said. "Oh, that's it then" he replied.....
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/walkers-enemies-list?utm_content=buffer4047e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
elzenmahn
(904 posts)I believe that Thom Hartmann had said recently that Scott Walker has a similar charisma to Reagan, combined with the political instincts of Nixon. He's dangerous, people - GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)ridiculous. I guess Scotty knows your bud would never change his mind based on what Scotty proclaims at his announcement
lutefisk
(3,974 posts)More fantasy world scripted tough talk from a pasty, sheltered, chickenhawk, college dropout, big government 23 year career state level bureaucrat. Not only did Walker not complete college, his only work experience not paid for by Wisconsin taxpayers was fast food worker and part-time commissioned salesman. But he expects people to listen to him when he volunteers other people's sons and daughters to "put steel in the face of our enemies".
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Walker's "put steel in the face of our enemies" is channeling Curtis LeMay: "Turn Vietnam into a parking lot."
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)is a little tooth brush mustache and he'll be perfect!
xocet
(3,871 posts)adopt the chickenhawk already.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)this one scares me the most. he has just enough gray matter and support to actually get some of his agenda through, but not enough to realize what he is doing is breaking the back of this country and putting us in a bad place.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)The country is not in a mood for another war just as we are getting out of two.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)had his head flushed in the toilet more than a couple times back in school.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)In re the Iran deal in particular:
That just shows how far out of touch Walker and his supporters are, if they think for one moment that the other members of the Perm Five, Germany, the UN, and the EU (to say nothing of the rest of the world except perhaps for Saudi Arabia and Netanyahu's government in Israel) could be "persuaded" by such as he.
Walker is just another RepubliCON warmongering POS.
postulater
(5,075 posts)We know you do whatever god tells you so of course you can't be wrong.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)waste more american lives for nothing, hell, he won't be there "in harms way". Fucking POS.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)office. Oh, wait... no he wouldn't.
PeteyPal
(15 posts)to put an expression on his face. Imagine him having our nuclear weapons at his disposal.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)If they can make more billion$ on war machinery, they'll be all for lots of war.
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)The chickenhawk code of ethics.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Greasy, little, mouth-breathing weasel.
Fuck you Scotty Wanker...giver of Koch hand-jobs.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Yes, they are dead. It's because he is in fact a sociopath, as are many politicians and CEOs. It's just so obvious with Walker.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...it might have come straight out of Hitler or Mussolini back in the 1930s...
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... either doesn't know, or is safely certain that his equally deficient supporters don't know, that in 1953 the CIA engineered the overthrow of Mohammad Mossadegh, the DEMOCRATICALLY elected Prime Minister of Iran, because the insufferably arrogant Brits didn't want the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (later to become BP) to show their books to his government. In response to Mossadegh nationalizing the oil fields that the Brits had stolen, the coup leaders, agent Provocateurs to a man, gave Shah Reza Palavi absolute power, enforced by his murderous SAVAK, and propped up by the CIA. The Brits got their oil back, and Iranian resentment simmered.
Mossadegh spent the rest of his life under house arrest. The Iranian people suffered under the Shah's malevolent oppression for 26 years before they finally revolted while the Shah was out of the country.
Now this witless, loudmouthed jerk-off, Walker, wants to show what a tough guy he is so brain-dead Dittoheads will flock to his banner.
It is possible that we are witnessing history in the making, namely the total disintegration of the Republican party as it smashes into the bottom of the cesspool of malice and mendacity that spawned it in the first place.
Well... we can dream, can't we?
DinahMoeHum
(21,787 posts)Crikey, this is getting redundant.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Like many leading Republicans, Walker did not serve in the military although he now advocate militarism.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Even in this piss-ant neck of the woods they never, ever, ever allow him to speak to any actual public gathering or go off-script.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)that he's to dumb to read other peoples scripts in public.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Happy to send YOU and YOURS off to needless wars.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Iran is one of the leading sponsors of terrorism, true, but we are number one. Using phony evidence to start a BS war, invading a sovereign nation without cause, killing half a million (?) of its citizens, bombing it back to the stone age... Now that's terrorism to make you choke up when they play the national anthem.
kydo
(2,679 posts)HA!
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Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)but he's an evil Howdy Doody, with those glowing red satanic eyes.
turbinetree
(24,699 posts)why don't you get out your play uniform of being a general in thief of elections campaign finance laws.
Then take off your face mask of your hero's--------Ronald Reagan suit and Richard Nixon face, and have your two young men in your family be the first to volunteer-----------lead the way dude.
And oh, by the way what did your hero Reagan do in El Salvador ------------zippy
red dog 1
(27,802 posts)Forty-six Wisconsin counties and 3,000 voting machines are being controlled by a two-person company operating out of a strip mall in Minnesota
"Meet Command Central, the People in Charge of Wisconsin Voting Machines"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002773448
red dog 1
(27,802 posts)because that's very likely how Walker was elected Governor of Wisconsin in the first place.
He probably STOLE the election by way of tampering with the voting machines.
(See reply # 64)
There is evidence that he survived the recall election by voting machine fraud as well.
"Recall Election Fraud in Wisconsin? You Betcha!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125144291
douggg
(239 posts)Oh!
The same amount as coward, pederast Ted Nugent? None!
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)and I'll show you a guy who almost certainly never served. That's the kind of bullshit fake Navy Seals like to spew down at the local bar.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)disingenuous, unqualified creeps like Walker to ascend as high as Governor of a State. nt
aceofblades
(73 posts)Americans and the world are getting tired of it Scott, despite the fact that you are too myopic to realize that.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)These war mongering pukes, think the answer to every conflict is to blow someone up. It doesn't even have to be a country that we have the conflict with, they might just throw a dart at the map and say lets bomb them.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)But he's a coward.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I'm sure they were probably more logical because now he's just reading off the playbook.
Reading on I realize he accidentally told the truth here.
Walkers foreign policy miscues included a statement earlier this year that his fight against the unions in Wisconsin had girded him for the battle against Islamic State. He also said the biggest national security decision by 1980s President Ronald Reagan who is credited with adopting policies that helped win the Cold War was his move to fire air traffic controllers at U.S. airports.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/scott-walker-calls-for-more-militaristic-america-us-needs-to-put-steel-in-the-face-of-our-enemies/
If we haven't learned by now "national security" is a code or a cover to do practically whatever it is their get rich quick schemes are. There is so much of what you call "metaphor speech".
President Bush Discusses Economy, Small Business in Wisconsin
oday I also had the privilege of flying from Washington to Milwaukee with three members of the congressional delegation from the great state of Wisconsin: Jim Sensenbrenner, Tom Petri, and Paul Ryan. These are fine -- (applause). We had a great visit on the plane. There is no air raids on Air Force One, by the way. (Laughter.) And it's a chance for us to talk about issues of concern and one thing is clear, the three love the state of Wisconsin and they represent you well, and I'm proud to call them friends, and I enjoy working with them. I enjoy working with them to try to change the tone in Washington, to elevate the discourse, to get rid of needless politics and partisan bickering and focus on the people's business. They understand what I'm talking about, and they're good, strong leaders.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031003-4.html
Though probably meant more for them but goes on to acknowledge the local officials in attendance in 2003 who includes Paul Walker.
Same press release (starting going back looking through them based on the idea of "psychological manipulation" because if there is anything that is clear, it is that)
We have more work to do in Iraq. A free Iraq, a peaceful Iraq will help change an area of the world that needs peace and freedom. A peaceful Iraq and a free Iraq is part of our campaign to rid the world of terror. And that's why the thugs in Iraq still resist us, because they can't stand the thought of free societies. They understand what freedom means. See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction. There will be a free and peaceful Iraq. What's taking place in Iraq is the evolution of a society, to be democratic in nation -- nature, a society in which the people are better off.
Bushisms
"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace."[24]
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."[25]
"This is still a dangerous world," he told more than 2,000 supporters at an oyster roast. "It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mential losses." Bush's spokespeople could not immediately explain what a mential loss was, but it seemed only distantly related to missile launches.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/piehigher.asp
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."[14][15]
"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." President George W. Bush, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008[16][17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism
I think Bush was smarter than people give him credit for -- not in the sense of creating a better place but deliberately sabotaging for-profit. There are no "blunders" or mistakes, there are so many things that you can go in so many different directions off of that are 100% factual though I'll say privatizing Iran probably didn't happen as soon as they were hoping for but plenty of profits to go around. The problem is they don't tell the truth and particularly with the over-expanding spy apparatus they go the extra mile to keep a secret that if somebody says something closer to the truth they are fodder for jokes but are laughing to the bank.
I don't know who this is but this author is dead on here.
Perpetual War: A country at war with an enemy (external or internal) is generally a country that is united in fear, and one in which the people are happy to hand over power to their leaders. As Orwell wrote: "The consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival." Until recently, the Soviet Union and communism represented this danger for us in the West. Upon its collapsed, however, there was a rise in civil liberties until the US was able to start a new war to camouflage its imperialist and dictatorial ambitions: The War Against Terror. Since the start of this war, huge swathes of freedoms have been taken back from the people under the guise of "national security" and "protection". The War on Terror has the added advantage of being unwinnable and therefore perpetually serves those who want power. Herman Goering said at the Nuremberg Trials: "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Language: Orwell knew better than most the power of language in defining our reality and our behaviour. He wrote in Nineteen Eighty Four, "War is Peace"; doublespeak ominously mirrored by Bush during the Iraq war when he said, "The war in Iraq is really about peace." The assault on Iraq was continually referred to as "liberation", and the US military called it "Operation Iraqi Freedom". Of course, liberation and freedom had little to do with the real reason that the US and UK invaded that country, but the rhetoric at least allows concerned citizens an excuse to deceive themselves into supporting blatant imperialism. Other doublespeak terms used by the military include "collateral damage" for civilian casualties and "the axis of evil" which gives the impression that countries with different ideologies to that of the US are somehow plotting together to hurt the US (when in fact most of these countries have almost no diplomatic relationships with each other). Control language and you control people's thoughts. In 1984, Orwell asserts that the control of language (and the elimination of selected vocabulary) is a prerequisite for the control of the People: "Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end, we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible because there will be no words in which to express it
The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought as we understand it now."
Repeat A Lie: Joseph Goebbels said: "Never admit a lie - simply keep repeating it." This works wonders for governments intent on misleading its citizens. This is the reason why 70% of Americans believe that Iraq was behind 9-11 despite all evidence to the contrary. The Bush propaganda machine just keeps repeating it over and over. And over here in the UK, Blair just keeps repeating that weapons of mass destruction exist and that it was a "good thing" to illegally invade a sovereign state. When no WMD were discovered in Iraq, Blair just started repeating another lie that the world is safer as a result of his disastrous Iraq invasion.
Hide Truth in a Barrage of Lies: This is a very useful method of not getting caught making a lie. The lies that go along with the truthful piece of information spin that truth so that it is no longer any use. When questioned on this method, governments can always hold up their hands in mocked surprise telling us that they give us the truth all along. During the Iraqi war, for example, truth and fiction were deliberately mixed together by the US and UK governments in a very confusing way, with innuendos of fictitious Iraqi military capacity. The government here in the UK is trying to contend that the 45-minute claim in the intelligence dossier actually referred to more conventional weapons, and therefore everyone was telling the truth.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/23/afghanistan.terrorism8
"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." President George W. Bush, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008[16][17]
Considering the phrase "national security" was used firing air traffic control pilots I think Walker was telling the truth there with the exception of "national security" but read the bottom of article, see what he is saying. People fear the country is more weak than it was 5 years ago and an increase in spending? Speaking of Reagan though I came across an interesting Saudi cable but a lot of the words (including Reagan's name) is dis-configured I can't quite tell what it says but one thing is clear Saudi sure as hell has no interest "democracy" and neither does the Reagan-team for that matter unless it means letting them put the wealth into the pockets of a select few while leaving enemies to justify a return.
From the Saudi Cables
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https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/doc64153.html