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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:04 PM Jun 2015

New NBC Poll: Hillary Clinton Dominates 2016 Democratic Field, Leads GOP Rivals

Source: NBC News

Hillary Clinton is leading her nearest Democratic competitor by a whopping 60 points, and she holds the early general-election advantage against the top Republican White House contenders, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Seventy-five percent of national Democratic primary voters favor Clinton in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination - compared with 15 percent who pick Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., four percent who choose former Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., and two percent who select former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.

What's more, 92 percent of Democratic voters say they could see themselves supporting Clinton for the Democratic nomination, which is up six points since March.

Just eight percent can't see themselves backing her in the current poll, which was conducted right after Clinton formally kicked off her presidential campaign with a rally in New York City. (By contrast, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's score among Republicans is 75-22 percent and Sen. Marco Rubio's, R-Fla., is 74-15 percent.)

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/hillary-clinton-dominates-2016-democratic-field-leads-gop-rivals-n379836



Hillary hasn't had any particularly significant news in her favor (thought the hype on the "scandals" have died down) since last poll. This is probably due more to the fact that the GOP field has become an even bigger clown show than 2012 and the more Americans see these guys, the less they like them.

Full results here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/6_22_PollPDF.pdf

Dem primary candidates crushing GOP field on favorability, Jeb leads GOP field, all GOP lose to Hillary by double digits, Obama approval trending back into positive territory
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New NBC Poll: Hillary Clinton Dominates 2016 Democratic Field, Leads GOP Rivals (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 OP
Madame President. nt onehandle Jun 2015 #1
Nauseating billhicks76 Jun 2015 #40
Nothing at all like Bush. apnu Jun 2015 #59
Keep Dreaming billhicks76 Jun 2015 #61
75% is a terrible number. The end is near. Doom and gloom Renew Deal Jun 2015 #2
Madame President! leftofcool Jun 2015 #3
"Just eight percent can't see themselves backing her in the current poll" cosmicone Jun 2015 #4
.... riversedge Jun 2015 #11
lol.... yep. n/t Adrahil Jun 2015 #32
Snort.......... Historic NY Jun 2015 #76
Just more evidence that "polls" are cover to justify foregone conclusions ala Fahrenheit 451. rwsanders Jun 2015 #5
Alrighty then. Metric System Jun 2015 #6
Yes, all polls are dreamed up by the Stonecutters Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 #8
Well just a bit funny how the MSM gains credibility when certain people like the outcome... rwsanders Jun 2015 #24
Actually it is more the pollsters rather than the MSM. Keep in mind pollsters have had their issues still_one Jun 2015 #28
You sound like the GOP last election. Adrahil Jun 2015 #33
Ha, ha, ha, you're so clever.... rwsanders Jun 2015 #46
Sometimes a poll is just a poll. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #56
I can't read it enough. Looks like "crowd size" doesn't impress "Democrats". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #7
"14 wks of Beltway chatter has been completely ignored by voters"... riversedge Jun 2015 #9
The negative pieces on HRC are running about 10 to 1. Bernie gets Thom Hartmann's & Ed Schultz's... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #15
An accurate assessment Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 #16
"Nader filled stadiums in 2000 and only got 2 percent." Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #18
Or Dems Were Idiots To Nominate Kerry billhicks76 Jun 2015 #42
After the "Dean Scream", I'm not so sure who the "idiots" were. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #48
That Was Nothing billhicks76 Jun 2015 #60
I thought you'd agree. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #62
Anyone Who Voted For TPP Is A Prostitute Dirtbag billhicks76 Jun 2015 #63
Did Hillary Rodham Clinton "vote for TPP"? I'm just trying to keep up with the assorted arguments.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #64
Huh? billhicks76 Jun 2015 #65
Perhaps you should re-read the title of the o.p. This thread is about Hillary dominating, not TPP. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #66
She Supported Yesterday billhicks76 Jun 2015 #67
You mean she aligned herself with Nancy Pelosi & most Democrats nationally? That right? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #68
BS billhicks76 Jun 2015 #69
I thought as a "liberal" you might care what your fellow citizens think. Is that not the case? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #70
People Are Against TPP When They Know The Facts billhicks76 Jun 2015 #71
You mean you want to "Unskew The Polls"? That's been done & it was an EPIC fail! n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #72
Ok. Keep Living In A Bubble billhicks76 Jun 2015 #73
504 Days till the election .. and there will be poll after poll after poll. So what. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #10
I support Sanders but it's great news she has double digit lead on Jeb!. Va Lefty Jun 2015 #12
Same here Boomer Jun 2015 #35
still early heaven05 Jun 2015 #13
very early. the primaries haven't even gotten going restorefreedom Jun 2015 #29
Great Graph related to findings of poll... riversedge Jun 2015 #14
bottom graph is most telling Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2015 #17
#1 riversedge Jun 2015 #43
making the prevailing sentiment on DU an almost perfect inversion of reality arely staircase Jun 2015 #19
"The Order Of Death" Rossi Jun 2015 #27
(Brushes off the mothballs) rocktivity Jun 2015 #20
It's a good sign for people to pay attention to. herding cats Jun 2015 #38
I should have included an explanation rocktivity Jun 2015 #47
Timing is interesting - this comes out the day after Sanders draws HUGE crowd Triana Jun 2015 #21
you nailed it. restorefreedom Jun 2015 #30
...and I guess they did the polling in advance of the rally knowing how many would show up? brooklynite Jun 2015 #34
Just wants one to shake one's head doesn't it? n/t cosmicone Jun 2015 #37
Yes and in late October 1988 Dukakis was drawing HUGE crowds. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #57
How can this be?? Politicub Jun 2015 #22
Holy smokes! DCBob Jun 2015 #23
She has been working hard. 6chars Jun 2015 #52
Alas, Hillary. Rossi Jun 2015 #25
I like Madame President!!!! Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #26
No doubt, she'll sweep tomorrow's Super Tuesday primaries. nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #31
"Tomorrow's ?" YOHABLO Jun 2015 #39
Don't sniff, Manny! She's got Joe-mentum! RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #55
Something-mentum! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #36
Interesting, they refer to Sanders as an independent even though he's a registered D davidpdx Jun 2015 #41
In which state is Senator Sanders registered as a Democrat? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #45
Trick question because Vermont does not register on a partisan basis davidpdx Jun 2015 #49
He was elected as an independent and Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #50
He has declared himself as a Democrat and the Democratic Party has accepted that he is davidpdx Jun 2015 #51
No, he isn't. okasha Jun 2015 #74
So you are saying Bernie Sanders is a liar davidpdx Jun 2015 #75
No. I'm saying he's not a registered Democrat. okasha Jun 2015 #77
I understand, you are saying he is a liar davidpdx Jun 2015 #78
Only if Sanders has claimed to be a registered Democrat. okasha Jun 2015 #79
Wow. Her refusal to take a firm stand on TPA and TPP are really hurting her Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #44
Yes indeedy! We don't need no stinkin' policies! The less she says the better RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #54
Repubs supporting Santorum as 1st choice: 0%. As 2nd choice: 0%. Can I just say: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #53
I've voted Democratic for the last 50 years. This may be the first time I sit on the sidelines. EndElectoral Jun 2015 #58

apnu

(8,756 posts)
59. Nothing at all like Bush.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jun 2015

Hillary is crafty, she's cagey, she's got willpower in spades. But is she anything like the BFEE? Hell no.

She won't be kissing saudi's on the lips.

She won't be eating cake while New Orleans drowns.

She won't be starting wars because somebody said something mean about her daddy.

She won't be slashing taxes for the 1% and bankrupting the Federal Government.

She won't be ignoring terrorist threats against the United States so she can take a vacation.

She won't be puking on foreign nationals.

She won't be up to her eyeballs in bank scandals.

She's not a oil soaked vampire, she's not the village idiot. She's nothing like any Bush, even Barbra Bush.

Is she a progressive? No. But she is a dependable liberal and has never wavered from liberalism.

I will be fine if she is President.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
61. Keep Dreaming
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 03:14 PM
Jun 2015

She is practically a member of the Bush family. Progressives need to split from the Democratic Party if they cannot prevent corporate war party candidates from controlling it. It's beyond disgusting. It's criminal.

rwsanders

(2,599 posts)
24. Well just a bit funny how the MSM gains credibility when certain people like the outcome...
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jun 2015

I wouldn't be calling anyone a sheeple unless you can dispute L. Fletcher Prouty's exposure of the infiltration of the media by the CIA.
I personally remember how the Shrub was the presumptive candidate for the republicans long before anyone had voted and the media was useds as a ramrod for his candidacy.
Ad Hominems attacks don't do anything to help your credibility, just make me question your intellect.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
28. Actually it is more the pollsters rather than the MSM. Keep in mind pollsters have had their issues
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jun 2015

also

rwsanders

(2,599 posts)
46. Ha, ha, ha, you're so clever....
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jun 2015

(NOT)
If anyone sounds GOP here, it is the people that have a fawning acceptance of these numbers. It sounds too much like right-wing "American exceptionalism" i.e. that polls or medial could never be manipulated here, that only happens over there.

riversedge

(70,215 posts)
9. "14 wks of Beltway chatter has been completely ignored by voters"...
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jun 2015

I just read your comment--then ran across this Tweet. Great minds.


Eric Boehlert ?@EricBoehlert 3m3 minutes ago

ha. NBC poll: Hillary leads Jeb by 8 pts, Marco by 10 pts, which means 14 wks of Beltway chatter has been completely ignored by voters

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
15. The negative pieces on HRC are running about 10 to 1. Bernie gets Thom Hartmann's & Ed Schultz's...
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jun 2015

audiences to show up at his events, and there's 10 million stories about "Crowd Size". I keep saying that Bernie has niche appeal, he can't broaden it, and that's not his fault. He is who he is.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
16. An accurate assessment
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015

Sanders (who I plan to vote for) is basically where Ron Paul was in the GOP field - a solid, dedicated base of significance, but not one that will be likely expanded.

And anyone citing crowd size has no understanding of elections. Nader filled stadiums in 2000 and only got 2 percent. The GOP were adamant that the number of tea party crowds and Chik-Fil-A mobs were a surefire sign that Obama would be unseated in 2012.

The vast bulk of voters never attend political events.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
18. "Nader filled stadiums in 2000 and only got 2 percent."
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:36 PM
Jun 2015

It can't be repeated enough. I understand it's exciting for his supporters, but that hasn't moved the numbers. In fact, the numbers for his main challenger have improved SIGNIFICANTLY.

BS has the same problem Howard Dean had in '04. He confused "the activist base" with the Democratic Party. He got shown, in very short order, that the two are very different animals.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
42. Or Dems Were Idiots To Nominate Kerry
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:55 AM
Jun 2015

Dean could've done better in a national election. He would at least fought back. Kerry rolled over. It's like the election didn't even matter.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
60. That Was Nothing
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jun 2015

Blown up by the media with spineless Dems not countering. Oooh. His voice got loud. Be a good little pawn and know you're place? You gotta be kidding me. What were you a Mondale and Dukakis supporter too? Wow.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
63. Anyone Who Voted For TPP Is A Prostitute Dirtbag
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 07:25 AM
Jun 2015

No offense to those who sell their bodies. It's a metaphor. Selling ones body is a practical choice. But real dirtbags sell their souls and our future.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
64. Did Hillary Rodham Clinton "vote for TPP"? I'm just trying to keep up with the assorted arguments..
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jun 2015

here.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
65. Huh?
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jun 2015

Is that your sarcasm? How could she vote for anything as she's not in Congress anymore. She's probably too busy vacationing at the Bush compound anyway.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
67. She Supported Yesterday
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jun 2015

And used Pelosi as the pivot. I'm getting fed up with corporate money. This is not what our country is supposed to be about.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
68. You mean she aligned herself with Nancy Pelosi & most Democrats nationally? That right?
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 02:06 PM
Jun 2015


Moreover, there is a discernible partisan split in support for specific trade agreements now under negotiation. According to another Pew Research poll, more than half the American public thinks both TPP and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), an Obama administration trade and investment initiative with the European Union, would be good for the country. But Democrats and Republicans disagree on their merits. Just 49% of Republicans back TPP and only 44% support TTIP. Democrats are more supportive of both TTIP (60%) and TPP (59%).

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/08/americans-agree-on-trade-good-for-the-country-but-not-great-for-jobs/
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
69. BS
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jun 2015

Who cares about polls. If Dems were unanimous in a poll to invade Iraq again then you would be ok with that? The vote for TPP was 60-37. 30 of those nays were democrats.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
12. I support Sanders but it's great news she has double digit lead on Jeb!.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jun 2015

Not thrilled about another Clinton-Bush election, but I will support the nominee of the Democratic Party

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
35. Same here
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jun 2015

I support Bernie Sanders because he most accurately reflects my politics, but if Hillary Clinton wins the nomination she's got my vote. I figure either way I'm going to be pleased.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
29. very early. the primaries haven't even gotten going
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:33 PM
Jun 2015

and there hasn't been a single debate. this reminds me of the non-coronation of 2008.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
17. bottom graph is most telling
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jun 2015

Despite media efforts to make elections about personalities, voters still say they base vote on issues.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
38. It's a good sign for people to pay attention to.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 12:13 AM
Jun 2015

If anyone is supporting someone other than Hillary, they need to get to work. Real work, the grassroots kind, not the being snarky to people who support other candidates on the internet kind.

See if your candidate needs some people to make calls for donations, etc. Get to work folks!

Love the pic BTW!

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
21. Timing is interesting - this comes out the day after Sanders draws HUGE crowd
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 07:56 PM
Jun 2015

in Denver.

Wall Street Journal - you know they want a Wall St. friendly President. And Bernie Sanders ain't it.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
30. you nailed it.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jun 2015

this is about corporate rule. hillary plays ball, bernie doesn.t. i wonder how many more days before m$nbc says just inaugurate her already.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
57. Yes and in late October 1988 Dukakis was drawing HUGE crowds.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jun 2015

Right before he captured 111 electoral votes and 46% of the popular vote. Crowd sizes can be misleading.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
49. Trick question because Vermont does not register on a partisan basis
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 12:33 AM
Jun 2015

But he has declared himself to be a Democrat and that has been recognized by the party. Reporting or saying anything to the contrary is misleading.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
51. He has declared himself as a Democrat and the Democratic Party has accepted that he is
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 07:24 AM
Jun 2015

So are you calling the party leaders liars? Maybe you should show a little good faith and do the same.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
74. No, he isn't.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:46 PM
Jun 2015

The way you become a registered Democrat in Vermont is by joining the Vermont Democratic party, just as Dean, Leahy and state officials have done.

It's not rocket science, and it isn't a secret.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
77. No. I'm saying he's not a registered Democrat.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jun 2015

Not the same thing.

He's going to have to become one, though, to run on the NH primary ballot.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
79. Only if Sanders has claimed to be a registered Democrat.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jun 2015

Has he? I don't believe so.

It's what Sanders says about Sanders that counts. Not what you say about Sanders.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
54. Yes indeedy! We don't need no stinkin' policies! The less she says the better
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jun 2015

I'd love to see a poll that juxtaposes presidential preferences with policy positions.
I expect that there'd be a major disconnect.

It is in HRC's best interest to remain a cipher as long as possible. Like "Hope and Change," her popularity is based primarily on a murky perception.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,315 posts)
53. Repubs supporting Santorum as 1st choice: 0%. As 2nd choice: 0%. Can I just say:
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jun 2015


(The same goes for Jindal too)

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
58. I've voted Democratic for the last 50 years. This may be the first time I sit on the sidelines.
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jun 2015

I like Sanders, but the machine against him is just so strong. I can't back someone who doesn't fight for the lower and middle class. This corporate trade deal was just the last straw I guess.

I certainly can't vote Republican. Maybe I'll just write in Sanders or vote a third party if those are the only options.

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