Muslim population in Europe to reach 10% by 2050, new forecast shows

[Surya Gayatri]

Source: The Guardian

Thursday 2 April 2015 15.01 BST
Muslims will nearly double their numbers in Europe – to more than 10% – by 2050 and will outnumber Christians worldwide by 2070, according to a new forecast of the growth of religions around the world.

The report, by Pew Research Center, also predicts that Muslims will become the second-largest religious group in the US – at 2.1% – by 2050.

Europe’s Muslim population, boosted by large families and immigration, will nearly double, from less than 6% (43 million people) in 2010 to more than 10% (71 million people) in 2050, the forecast estimates.

The US by 2050 will still have more Christians than any other denomination, according to the report, but they will decline from 77% to 66% of the population.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/muslim-population-growth-christians-religion-pew

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Watch for RW heads to explode, both in Europe and in the States. Their bogeyman is on the move!

Muslims 'r us ! !



OMG, they're in yr streets, in yr buildings, in yr head!

[Comrade Grumpy]

1. Eek! It's Eurabia!

[Surya Gayatri]

2. I's skeeered! I lives on the frontlines in Pareeee!

[Marksman_91]

3. I don't like the prospect of ANY religious group to keep growing like this

I'd rather see the growth of a population that does not identify with any religion.

[Surya Gayatri]

4. Well, nothing would be solved by demonizing them,

marginalizing them and keeping them out of the mainstream.

[Larry Engels]

6. Do European muslims want to be part of the "mainstream"?

Yes and no. They want the benefits, but as a whole, they don't seem to want to assimilate. Of course, there are plenty of exceptions, but the larger muslim community looks at them as mavericks.

[Surya Gayatri]

7. Many of the young ones do, but joblessness and lack of

of opportunity keep them out.

[Larry Engels]

10. Even worse, joblessness and lack of opportunity helps to create radical Islamists.

[Surya Gayatri]

12. So then, what's your solution, good sir? Ghettos, camps,

'star and crescent' patches on Muslim arms?

[Larry Engels]

14. WHAT?

Who said anything about that? Not me. Wow! Paranoia strikes deep!

[Surya Gayatri]

8. Broadbrush...? Do you live in Europe or are you speaking from

second-hand knowledge?

Most Muslims see integrated ones as mavericks, reeeely? Show me the study...

[Larry Engels]

19. Check this out.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/60829/robert-s-leiken/europes-angry-muslims

[Surya Gayatri]

20. AN AMERICAN CONCERN - From our July/August 2005 Issue

Well, this American opinion piece from 2005 is really germane to the discussion.

Thanks for that!

[uppityperson]

23. Did you notice that article is 10 years old?

[Larry Engels]

24. So what?

It's obviously gotten worse since then.

[uppityperson]

26. Link to something that show that?

[Larry Engels]

33. Here.

Credit: Manhattan Institute. Much more here:

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/01/234263-president-obama-points-reason-american-muslims-less-radicalized-right/

[closeupready]

30. Are you signing this post as a Xtian? No response necessary; it's obvious to us.

[Larry Engels]

5. What a refreshing comment.

Finally something that doesn't come out of a pre-cooked can of political correctness. Not kidding.

[Skittles]

42. I guess we don't need XRAY glassess to see through Larry Engels

[Larry Engels]

43. Yep, you read me like a book! :)

I'm sure of it.

[Skittles]

44. absolutely

[Comrade Grumpy]

9. Well, I wonder how many are actual "Muslim" Muslims.

Seriously.

Is this figure based on ethnicity? If you're French of Algerian descent do you get counted as Muslim?

I wonder how many people who are nominally Muslim are actually indifferent to the creed. Kind of like members of most religious faiths. I grew up in a Christian family. Does that make me a Christian? It may, but that stuff doesn't actually mean much in my real life.

And then there's the conflating of Islam with radical Islam...

[Surya Gayatri]

22. Excellent question, CG. Are they practicing Muslims

or simply of Muslim ethnicity and extraction?

[uppityperson]

25. Rather like all those French Christians who never set foot inside a church except to look at the

architecture and such.

[Surya Gayatri]

35. All 50,000,000 of them. LOL! Those ancient churches and cathedrales

are really bursting at the seams every Sunday.
NOT!

[pampango]

32. I have read that about 2/3 of them are non-practicing. I'll look for where I found that.

The European right is reacting to a Muslim population of 10% roughly like our right reacts to a 10% population (and growing) of African Americans or Hispanics - PANIC.

[Surya Gayatri]

36. Wish I had that smilie of the guy running around with

his hair on fire...

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. It's about the religion they describe themselves as following

Not about descent (it also takes into account converts (including 'converting' to no religion) in its predictions, for instance). But it's true that many nominal members of a religion may not let it affect their lives much.

You can see the soruces they used for each country here: http://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/04/PF_15.04.02_ProjectionsAppendixB.pdf

In the USA, for instance, it is 'based on 2010 combined Pew Research Center surveys for adults and four waves (2004-2010) of the National Opinion Research Center’s General Social Survey for children (age 0-19)'. So your classification would depend on whether you answer 'Christian' when asked.

"And then there's the conflating of Islam with radical Islam..."

Well, it's a lot easier to objectively say whether someone follows Islam than to say they follow the subset 'radical Islam'. They are all in Islam; if you wish to define a subset, it's up to you to give a good definition and work out how to split the people.

[muriel_volestrangler]

13. That is also predicted in Europe

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/europe/
Unaffiliated will grow from 18.8% in 2010 to 23.3% in 2050.

[LeftishBrit]

17. That is indeed happening in Europe, even more than the increase in the Muslim population

The number of people who describe themselves as atheist, agnostic or 'unaffiliated' is growing all the time. And that does not include people who identify nominally with a religion but do not take it very seriously: 'cultural' Christians; 'secular' Jews and Muslims; etc. In the UK, less than ten per cent of people attend church weekly.

[RoccoR5955]

11. They may outnumber christians but...

do they outnumber atheists and agnostics? I think that the atheists and agnostics are the ones who are really coming into the majority.

This is a scare tactic, plain and simple. AFAIC, it is high time for an END to all religions!

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. Worldwide, no, they won't

(and it's only worldwide, by 2070, that they're predicting Muslims will outnumber Christians).

[Surya Gayatri]

16. Yes, the 'no organized religion' contingent is growing.

Do you have links to the recent study showing that?

[RoccoR5955]

29. Do I have to provide a link

To a question?
If you read my post it asked a question. I do not understand why one would expect a link to a question. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

[Surya Gayatri]

46. Hi Rocco! I 100% agree with you. LOL! Scare tactic, pure and simple.

My dear Rocco, the only reason I asked if you had any documentary proof was becasue I wanted to put the link into this thread!

I was so busy with all of the 'breaking' yesterday, that I didn't have time to go 'googling'.

[Surya Gayatri]

38. And, will do nothing to further the reasoned debate and social change

that is essential to a viable solution.

[cosmicone]

18. It's ok as long as they embrace the values of the host country

rather than trying to change them for the worse.

If they started insisting on veils, keeping women as second class citizens and promoting sharia law then it will be problematic.

One's religion should be confined to one's heart, home and place of worship. There should be no religion anywhere else.

[Surya Gayatri]

21. Indeed, this is the crux of the debate and resulting

changes occurring in France (& Europe) as we speak.

The Muslim population is still on the outer fringes and must be brought in from the cold.

Integrating Europe's Muslim Minorities: Public Anxieties, Policy Responses

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/integrating-europes-muslim-minorities-public-anxieties-policy-responses

'Muslim integration is one of the most contentious issues in the immigration debate in Europe, and one that gets right to the heart of public anxieties about immigration. European countries are grappling with ways to accommodate Muslim minorities while upholding national values.'

[cosmicone]

27. Like in other religions, their archaic and orthodox mullahs

won't let them modernize.

We need to import kinder/gentler mullahs from Western Turkey, India and Indonesia whilst deporting the Wahhabi mullahs bought and paid for by Saudi Arabia.

[Surya Gayatri]

39. Bullseye. That's just what's happening in France as we speak.

[get the red out]

28. Thank you for this post

This is absolutely correct.

[closeupready]

31. Would that apply to Hindu immigrants? Or do you single out muslims for application of that principle

Based upon your activity on DU, I sense the latter.

[cosmicone]

34. The last time I checked

Hindus in Western countries are not trying to enforce Sharia law or forcing women to wear a certain attire.

Hindus are the most affluent and most educated minority in the United States btw.

[Gore1FL]

37. Wer can't even get Christians in the U.S. to embrace the values of their host country. n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

40. On, snap!

But, don't you mean 'home' country, rather than 'host'?

[Little Tich]

45. It's interesting that the article seems to define being Muslim as somthing hereditary,

unlike being Christian or Jewish. Maybe it's just my lack of reading comprehension, but methinks the writer of the article is displaying some bias.

[Surya Gayatri]

47. Yeah, like just because your grandparents immigated from Algeria,

and you happen to have an Arabic-sounding surname, you're automatically a devout, practicing Muslim.

Alrighty then...