Poll: Hillary Much Stronger With Dems Heading Into 2016 Than 2008

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

Hillary Clinton is supported by a whopping 66 percent of registered Democrats for the presidential nomination, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll released Thursday.

Joe Biden (who is uncertain to run) and Elizabeth Warren (who has repeatedly said she won't run) are tied for second place with 12 percent each.

Clinton is far stronger heading into the 2016 Democratic primary than she was at this stage of the 2008 election.

A March 2007 poll by CNN/ORC found her supported by her backed by 37 percent of Democrats, with Barack Obama behind with 22 percent, Al Gore winning 14 percent and John Edwards pulling 12 percent.

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Also, from the poll...

PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE – Head-to-head, Clinton leads Bush by 12 points among registered voters, 53-41 percent, essentially unchanged in the past year. She has 54 to 56 percent support against Rubio, Walker and Cruz alike, vs. their 39 to 40 percent.

[TekGryphon]

2. And if the best the nutters have is...

more Benghazi/email hysteria, then I can't see them making any credible inroads.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. That's all they got...

I'm waiting for the backlash.

[still_one]

5. I hope you are right, but with states like Iowa and Wisconsin voting in some bonafide crazies, I

just don't know about the judgement of the American populace.

I look at how Kerry was maligned by the Swift Boaters with the MSM as a willing accomplice, and nothing can be taken for granted, especially with citizens united.

One thing the Hillary camp must do if similar types of misrepresentation and lies are used, is get in front of it immediately. Kerry unfortunately waited too long, and it became too embedded at the time. When they tried to destroy Obama with Wright and Ayers, the Obama campaign didn't wait, they came out strong and forceful, and overcame it. If there is no other lesson learned from the Kerry campaign, this is the one

[stone space]

13. Senator Obama overcame criticism of his religion by quitting his church.

When they tried to destroy Obama with Wright and Ayers, the Obama campaign didn't wait, they came out strong and forceful, and overcame it.

Hopefully, we won't see another Presidential candidate forced to quit his church in order to be allowed by media to compete this time around.

The UCC has also had TV ads rejected by major media networks.

[groundloop]

14. IMO Hillary could be doing a better job refuting email-gate and Benghazi lies

I all too well remember what happened to John Kerry and am terrified Hillary will let that happen to her.

On the other hand we could always see another strong Democratic candidate emerge, but at this point it's hard to tell who that might be (Elizabeth Warren has said so many times she's not running that one of these days we'll have to start believing her).

[OKNancy]

15. Yes, he waited too long, but he also had an uphill climb

since he was running against an incumbent.

[still_one]

22. Agreed, but he had a warning what was to come.. First drudge and the MSM tried to associate an

affair with Kerry and an aide. He tried to push it aside as ridiculous but the vultures become more insistent until the aide came out and told them their reporting was false, and then they backed off

I think this convinced Kerry that falsehoods would eventually come out in the open, and that was an underestimation of the republican/rovian, machinery

[still_one]

4. This should come as no surprise since by all accounts she is the only presumed Democratic candidate

at this point. Bernie Sander is not a Democrat presently, O'Malley has shown some interest, but has not been considered seriously. Same with the other potential prospects. I take Elizabeth Warren at her word when she says she will not run

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Too early to worry...I will just bask in this good news for now...

Tomorrow will take care of itself.

[still_one]

8. You are right, and no problem being optimistic, but being prepared for the almost certain attacks is

good too

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. These polls will inspire the Republicans to quintuple down on Ben Gazi (sic).

I do believe this election is hers to lose. That doesn't mean she can't lose it but it is hers to lose.

[still_one]

10. Yes, given the perverseness of the republicans, it will motivate them to double down

[Larry Engels]

12. Also, too, there is Jim Webb.

http://www.jameswebb.com/

He could carry the centrists if he could get the nomination.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. Webb won't get out of the Democratic primaries ...

as he has virtually NO African-American support.

[Larry Engels]

20. He has virtually no support from white people, either.

Yet.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. HRC is getting 93% of the African American vote and 78% of the non-white vote.

We just need to ensure they vote.

[cosmicone]

7. But among registered DUers

Hillary trails 80-20 to candidates such as Casper the friendly ghost, Yogi bear, Gulliver, Superman, Invisible Man and oh .. Bernie Sanders.

[1StrongBlackMan]

17. +1 ...

[Deadbeat Republicans]

19. +2

[DonViejo]

35. LMAO!!!

[Larry Engels]

36. That's a nasty thing to say about fellow Democrats.

Pushing the inevitability line? It's not helpful to your candidate. And your comments are insulting.

[cosmicone]

38. Send me your address

I'll send you an industrial size container of humor.

[Larry Engels]

43. Please don't.

Your "humor" isn't funny.

[cosmicone]

44. "Your umbrella won't keep me dry"

said a soaking wet guy.

[Adrahil]

58. +3.14 n/t

[Geronimoe]

11. No competition this time around

No one else is declaring they will run. So it is Hillary or your write in candidate.

Problem is, will anyone vote?

[1StrongBlackMan]

18. Despite the best efforts of some ...

I suspect, Yes.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

55. If the primary ballot has one name, I might not vote

But, yes, I'll vote in the general.

Hillary may not be the best, but compared to Bush or Walker? So, yeah, I'll vote.

[workinclasszero]

21. Great! Can't wait for Hillary to start kicking republican taliban ass

all over the nation!

[Larry Engels]

37. Try not to get over-excited.

Not all the candidates have announced yet.

[DCBob]

23. Those are some impressive numbers.

She would have to completely implode to blow it this time.

[PassingFair]

28. That or have a serious progressive candidate announce that they are running.

That could make her campaign implode, just like the last time
she was inevitable.

[Larry Engels]

34. Name recognition. That's all this is.

But if that cheers you up, great!

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. Despite the hopes of many, there are no Barack Obamas waiting in the wings to challenge. n/t

[PassingFair]

45. But is there NOBODY?

I can think of MANY democrats that I could get excited about working for.

I don't see any of them announcing intentions to take on the machine.

[Tarheel_Dem]

46. This won't be about what "the base" wants, not this time. The bench is weak, and the most viable...

opponent has declared time & time again that she is not running. As for Bernie Sanders, I can tell you with some certainty, that State Democratic Party chairs are not going to risk their credibility for someone who is not a Democrat, and would only be changing party to take advantage of our party infrastructure, fundraising and mailing lists. It's that simple.

[PassingFair]

47. What "bench"? That's the problem.

We have many great democrats in office.

They're not "weak", they're invisible right now.
Someone needs to step up.

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. Actually, I disagree ...

this will be EXACTLY what "the base" wants.

Think about it ...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. She had a fifteen point lead at this time last election.

She now has a fifty point lead...

That's a lead over 300% larger...

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. Wait. Candidate Obama was "seriously progressive"? ...

maybe to those that didn't listen to a word he said during the campaign.

[Art_from_Ark]

59. He compared himself to a "moderate '80s Republican"

That is not "seriously progressive" in any way, shape or form.

[DCBob]

57. She didn't implode last time.

An amazing candidate simply beat her. There is no such candidate now.

[Downtown Hound]

24. In 2008 a lot of us were still really angry at her for her support of the Iraq War

And at the time, she still refused to apologize for it or admit she was wrong. She has since done that.

While I'll always view her with a little skepticism and will never truly forgive her for voting for that atrocity, I've long since gotten past the point of being angry at her for it. And I think a lot of other Dems are in the same boat. It's time to put that issue behind us and concentrate on defeating the Repukes, and she can do that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. It was a horrible vote...I don't know what she was thinking...But she was far from alone...

It was a horrible vote...I don't know what she was thinking...But she was far from alone... Lots of other Democratic senators voted for it, 59% of them to be exact, so I will give her a pass...

[Art_from_Ark]

60. War is the most serious kind of vote a Senator can make

It involves killing untold numbers of innocent people.

That war was being pitched by known liars and conmen against a country that had been the most bombed, the most surveilled, the most sanctioned country in the world for the previous 12 years. Millions of people around the world could see through the bullshit. Even my Japanese boss knew it was bullshit.

[PassingFair]

27. All comers are scared to go up against her.

These are sad times for our party.

I can't believe that after all the deregulation and degradation our county
has survived (barely) that our next election will probably give us no choice
beyond a Bush and a Clinton.

Both "dynasties" involved in the ruination of unions and the lower "middle class".

Ugh.

[Thinkingabout]

29. The GOP does not have an answer for Hillary so they have to attempt to discredit her.

Instead of making so much effort they should spend time on making things right in the GOP. Hillary knows they will be after her, this is not new but when the GOP has been unsuccessful time after time it usually just falls off the screen.

She is strong, smart and has experience working on a presidential cabinet, she is ready.

[Beacool]

30. But....but...the e-mails....

[leftofcool]

31. Ready for Hillary to some some GOP ass!

[McCamy Taylor]

32. Registered Democrats rock.

[WatchWhatISay]

33. But of course!

Because in 2008 I liked Hillary, but I preferred Barack, believing him to be the more progressive of the two candidates.

Now I still like Hillary, and there is no other viable choice, and I will vote for her gladly. I do wish she weren't going to give the Republicans so much ammunition, both before and after she is elected, but those crazy haters will always find plenty of reason to hate the Democratic President, no matter who it is. They just hate us. But Barack Obama's race sent many of them completely over the edge. They just cant bear it.

Really though, since I live in Texas my vote will only matter to me, so maybe I'll vote for Bernie.

[fbc]

39. and the other 34% are paying attention

[cascadiance]

40. And probably that percentage or less know what the term TPP refers to as well.

These polls are just mainly about name recognition at this point, which I think is really meaningless except for the corporate sector's marketing of her as THE Democratic candidate they want. As noted in the earlier 2007 poll, she was also way ahead of Obama and others in that poll too, but ultimately that didn't forecast what happened in the election.

[Tarheel_Dem]

42. Those hoping for a repeat of 2008 must remember that there's only one Barack Obama.

No one whose name has been bandied about instills the kind of passion that he did back in 2008. I mean, people were spray painting his image on the side of buildings, making songs about him, and telling their parents and grandparents about him. He was an historic pick for an historic time. Compared to Hillary, the rest of the field claiming to be "testing the waters" just don't inspire that kind of passion. The "Democratic Party" will choose a woman this time, and since EW has said for the 1000th time that she's not running, that woman will be Hillary Rodham Clinton.

And more importantly, unless there's an economic collapse like we saw in 2007, this election will be fought on foreign policy grounds.

[Lil Missy]

49. And she doesn't need a single vote from DU to win. n/t

[BlueStater]

50. Well, good!

If she doesn't need me, I guess I'll just stay home and I won't have to hold down my vomit to vote for her.

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. LOL ...

But she will have my vote ... if she is the Democratic nominee!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

56. Web sites are people too!

Wait, no, that's only corporations.

[BlueStater]

51. Ready for Hillary...TO GO AWAY! n/t

[Beacool]

61. No surprise........except on this site.

It's going to be a long 1 1/2 year for some people.