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OneAngryDemocrat

(2,060 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:36 AM Jul 2012

"That is how, folks, you talk to a do-nothing Tea Party Congressman."

So... I'm working the Stephenson County Democrats booth at the County Fair, right?

We're getting ready to call it a day when Republican Rep. Bobby Schilling walks up with an entourage of fascist Tea Baggers looking for a photo op shaking the hand of a local democrat.

I take the Congressman's hand and tell him, "We've met before, Congressman."

"You do look familiar," he tells me.

"Yeah," I tell him. "I debated Paul Ryan's bullshit budget you supported with the Tea Party's John Arn at the Rockford Public Library."

"I remember!" says the Congressman. "We're just doing what's best for America!"

"Getting rid of two tax brackets," I tell him - my voice getting a little louder, "and consolidating the rest so that middle class Americans get a tax hike isn't in my interests as an American, Congressman."

"We're going to have to agree to disagree," the guy says. "Don't you think that we're both trying to do what's best for the country?"

"Well, no, Congressman," I say to him. "I think some people have their own interests at heart, instead of the country's."

It's at this point that my voice is DEFINITELY above what could be considered a calm or level tone.

"Right down the street, here (in Freeport, Illinois), you have the Sensata company getting ready to lay off all of it's workers and ship operations overseas. Your response was to write a letter and "beg" the CEO of Sensata to reconsider the move. You are a Congressman, sir! Do you represent all those Freeport residents who are going to be soon out of a job, or do you represent the company?"

Instead of even trying to formulate any sort of reasonable response the man tries to say something about the President - but I interrupt the Congressman at that point and remind him that we're not talking about the fellow living in the White House, but just what it is he is going to do as our local Representative about a local factory closing shop shipping everything over to Communist China.

The guy knows he's not going to get any good press out of this exchange, being just a tad-bit brighter than all of his Tea Party supporters, smiles, and beats a hasty retreat without saying another word.

As he walks away I give it one more shot: "Do your job Congressman: Represent your constituients."

All the folks at the other County Fair booths around us just stand and look at me, like, 'What just happened? What did we just see?'

"That is how, folks, " I say as I return to breaking down the booth, "you talk to a do-nothing Tea Party Congressman."

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"That is how, folks, you talk to a do-nothing Tea Party Congressman." (Original Post) OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 OP
Comments? OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #1
Hard to come up with a comment Downtown Hound Jul 2012 #2
Well done indeed lsewpershad Jul 2012 #59
You didn't point out to him that it was his candidate who was closing the plant. Downwinder Jul 2012 #3
It is. OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #6
You did good. Downwinder Jul 2012 #12
Excellent, you kept it local, showed how this repub was hurting the people... Spazito Jul 2012 #23
Truth brutus smith Jul 2012 #48
Please run for office. joshcryer Jul 2012 #4
+10 nilram Jul 2012 #11
ditto silvershadow Jul 2012 #15
vids or it didn't happen ;) 0rganism Jul 2012 #5
Thanks Pizz Jul 2012 #7
You're right about not backing down from them. VenusRising Jul 2012 #40
Freakin' excellent! WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2012 #8
Well done! onestepforward Jul 2012 #9
A better man than I. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2012 #10
Wow! Very Impressive KT2000 Jul 2012 #13
Good for you! murielm99 Jul 2012 #14
Thank You! freshwest Jul 2012 #16
Outstanding mick063 Jul 2012 #17
But if Sensata doesn't move overseas, they will create creates SEVERE INFLATIONARY EXTERNALITAAAHHS! Zalatix Jul 2012 #18
This paragraph, in my opinion, should be shouted from the rooftop! LeftofObama Jul 2012 #19
BRAVO! Iggy Jul 2012 #20
Grand applause! lonestarnot Jul 2012 #21
You hit him with the truth... davidthegnome Jul 2012 #22
Well Done. CanSocDem Jul 2012 #24
Just wondering Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #25
Errrm. They can stop supporting a candidate whose legacy is shipping jobs overseas. geckosfeet Jul 2012 #27
I'm not shilling Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #28
He could simply speak out. And do the right thing by opposing roMNey and geckosfeet Jul 2012 #30
I'm not defending him Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #31
Well you have a good one then. geckosfeet Jul 2012 #32
She isn't shilling. kurtzapril4 Jul 2012 #38
Ok. geckosfeet Jul 2012 #46
He could vote for a law that would expropriate the assets.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2012 #29
You don't act subservient to a company by doing that, IMO... MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #54
What might that incentive be? Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #56
Well, what about... It's the RIGHT thing to do? MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #63
Maybe that is what the letter said Marcia Brady Jul 2012 #64
He can do what Congressmen are supposed to do: LEGISLATE OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #58
Brave heart moment... WCGreen Jul 2012 #26
Next time, if he dares to talk to you again n2doc Jul 2012 #33
Bravo! judesedit Jul 2012 #34
They don't care bout you. 3feetofsnow Jul 2012 #35
I would have loved to been there! I think B Calm Jul 2012 #36
Bobby is a real nasty piece of work. Itchinjim Jul 2012 #37
EXCEPTIONALLY Well Done!!! calimary Jul 2012 #39
Good for you! VenusRising Jul 2012 #41
Semper Fi, Marine.... Aviation Pro Jul 2012 #42
GOOD work! patrice Jul 2012 #43
Bravo!!! riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #44
Every time we talk about or say China we need to say DhhD Jul 2012 #45
Thank you for doing that. NS2012 Jul 2012 #47
There's a few of us angry Democrats. mountain grammy Jul 2012 #49
Cheri Bustos is the Democratic candidate for Congress, Illinois' 17th district! mountain grammy Jul 2012 #50
Schilling is tearing into his opponent Bluzmann57 Jul 2012 #51
you are my hero. seriously. i want to stand next to you. BRAVO! roguevalley Jul 2012 #52
K&R SunSeeker Jul 2012 #53
Kudos. I especially like the "Communist China" jab. Vinca Jul 2012 #55
Point. Match! Wait Wut Jul 2012 #57
Thank You! OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #62
And remember: You can't even SPELL "Schilling" rocktivity Jul 2012 #60
DUDE, YOU KICKED HIS TEABAGGER ASS! drynberg Jul 2012 #61
WOW, kind of hard to believe! deaniac21 Jul 2012 #65
It's Hard to Believe they're Shutting Down the Sensata Plant... OneAngryDemocrat Jul 2012 #66

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
3. You didn't point out to him that it was his candidate who was closing the plant.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:03 AM
Jul 2012

Isn't that a Bain liquidation?

OneAngryDemocrat

(2,060 posts)
6. It is.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:11 AM
Jul 2012

I didn't forget. The conversation was too brief to actually squeeze it in. And - to be blunt - I wanted to give Schilling a piece of my mind, rather than use Mitten's history as a CEO as a club. That's an attack against Mitt - not this other loser.

If the conversation had gone on longer, it would have come up... but, as it is.... I did get to lay some of this garbage on Schilling's shoulders and that was the goal.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
12. You did good.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:11 AM
Jul 2012

For all of his labor credentials, he is not much for labor. Send him back to making pizza.

Spazito

(50,349 posts)
23. Excellent, you kept it local, showed how this repub was hurting the people...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jul 2012

he was representing, that is something those listening will understand.

Well done!

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
5. vids or it didn't happen ;)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jul 2012

Seriously, we need a/v of that kind of interaction up on youtube, or better yet in the mass media, so people can see it live. This reads like the script for an instructional video for Democrats.

Incredibly well played, by the way.

 

Pizz

(69 posts)
7. Thanks
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:45 AM
Jul 2012

You my good friend are a great example of what
to do in such situations. Show some balls!
We need to quit backing down.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
8. Freakin' excellent!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:47 AM
Jul 2012

These assholes always expect us to be polite, smile, and just go along with their program. They simply are not prepared for people like you who KNOW their stuff, and aren't afraid to hold their feet to the fire.

"I think some people have their own interests at heart, instead of the country's."
Beautiful. And I'll bet it'll be a long time before he tries to use a democrat for a photo op!
 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
17. Outstanding
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:01 AM
Jul 2012

I think we need to be a little mad.

Here is my episode today:


Washington State Representative, Larry Haler (R), knocked on my door today and handed me a pamphlet and asked for my vote. I was going to just take it and let him go. The pamphlet was headed for the trash as soon as the door shut.

But......he handed me another pamphlet and asked for my support for Gubernatorial candidate, Rob Mckenna. He added that they were both going to fight against "Obama care".

I asked him if Rob Mckenna belonged to the Tea Party. "No" he replied. I mused over the response for a bit but didn't press it. In my mind, all those "moderate" GOPers always walk in lock step with the fringe crazies anyway. An interesting answer and one that should be asked of all GOP candidates. There are some that not only say no, but say it sheepishly as if they are embarrassed of the implied association.

I told him that I am diametrically opposed to his politics. I support the Affordable Health Care Act. I added, "There are two big fears out there. Fear of big government and fear of big money. My biggest fear is of the banks and corporations. I can democratically elect the leadership of government. I have no influence over the leaders of banks and corporations except through government. Deregulation, subsidizing, reducing government oversight by taking the wrecking ball to government. These are the last things i want to do."

My voice gradually raised as I spoke. He smiled and walked off. He knew he wasn't going to get my vote.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
19. This paragraph, in my opinion, should be shouted from the rooftop!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 07:24 AM
Jul 2012

"Right down the street, here (in Freeport, Illinois), you have the Sensata company getting ready to lay off all of it's workers and ship operations overseas. Your response was to write a letter and "beg" the CEO of Sensata to reconsider the move. You are a Congressman, sir! Do you represent all those Freeport residents who are going to be soon out of a job, or do you represent the company?"

Everyone of those assholes should be asked a similar question.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
20. BRAVO!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jul 2012

Love it when these cretins try to put themselves on the same level as you:

"Don't you think that we're both trying to do what's best for the country?"


Uhh, NO.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
22. You hit him with the truth...
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012

which he will comfortably ignore. In this age of the Super PACs, truth tends to be rather a mere nuisance to the elite. While I respect your effort and your nerve in confronting the man, he will cry all the way to the bank.

Bad press, good press...does it really matter? The MSM is controlled by such people as Mitt Romney, Rupert Murdoch, David Koch. It's the golden rule... you know, who ever has the most gold makes all the rules. They also make most of the information, starting from whole cloth and tearing strips apart to spin it in whatever a way is most comfortable, most profitable and unlikely to be a risk.

Truth is always risky - had we a congress full of folks like you instead of these nit wit tea party imbeciles... well, I might just be optimistic. Had we a media of Journalists unafraid of telling the truth, determined to reveal facts instead of serving the almighty profit or the corporate types that own them.... well, I might be optimistic. If I suspected, even for a moment, that it was possible to reach these tea party types with facts, with any real notion of truth, justice, charity... well, I might be optimistic.

As it is, I am pessimistic as hell. I applaud your nerve and your candor, but can only wish there were a million more like you to confront such a Congressman every time he digs up the nerve to leave his office. Kudos and applause.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
24. Well Done.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:28 AM
Jul 2012


You hooked a big fish, had'm alongside the boat...gave us all a nice look...and then let'm get away.

They flip and flop and are too slimey to get a good hold but I know if we learn how to play them better we'll eventually have them for breakfast.

Good catch, just the same.

Good fishin' to ya....

.

Marcia Brady

(108 posts)
25. Just wondering
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jul 2012

What could he have done, other than beg them to stay? Really, we all want our congresscritters to do something, but what can any of them do, in the face of a company leaving?

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
27. Errrm. They can stop supporting a candidate whose legacy is shipping jobs overseas.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

How embarrassing for you, to have to come here and shill like this.

Marcia Brady

(108 posts)
28. I'm not shilling
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jul 2012

for anyone or anything.

If this guy is a true tea party type, chances are pretty good that he doesn't support RMoney, anyway.

Really, if the company isn't doing anything illegal, there is a limit to what Congress (D or R) can threaten them with.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
30. He could simply speak out. And do the right thing by opposing roMNey and
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jul 2012

his business practices at Bain. He could speak in favor of the president.

He didn't, he hasn't and he won't.

And you are defending him. IMO that's shilling.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
38. She isn't shilling.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jul 2012

She asked legitimate questions. She wasn't supporting rMoney. Lighten up and start comprehending what you read. Jeez.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
29. He could vote for a law that would expropriate the assets..........
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jul 2012

of companies that move jobs overseas and give it to the workers to run in direct competition to the "job creator in China". Without the need to give huge salaries to CEOs the companies would probably make enough to give the people a lower price too.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
54. You don't act subservient to a company by doing that, IMO...
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:40 AM
Jul 2012

You step in and provide an incentive for them to support their country by supporting the workers of this country. You find out what is happening in the profit and loss statements of that company, and then, you publicly make your views heard.

Do THAT, and you prove that you are doing something.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
63. Well, what about... It's the RIGHT thing to do?
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jul 2012

IOW, if you're going to be in public office, then you might just do what is right thing to do. No playing the game, but being a public official. Insist to do what is right and when everyone does better, everyone does better.

Marcia Brady

(108 posts)
64. Maybe that is what the letter said
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:17 AM
Jul 2012

"Keep your company in the US because it's the right thing to do."

I'm not defending this guy, because I know nothing about him, or about the company. I just really want to know what a Congressman/Senator/Governor/President can actually do within the limits of the Constitution. (BTW, I don't think expropriating the company's assets -one suggestion in this thread - is legal.)

OneAngryDemocrat

(2,060 posts)
58. He can do what Congressmen are supposed to do: LEGISLATE
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jul 2012

It is Congress' constitutional OBLIGATION to regulate foreign trade.

He can introduce legislation to rip up all of our trade treaties with Red China.

He can introduce legislation to rip up most of our trade treaties with Red China.

He can introduce legislation to rip up some of our trade treaties with Red China.

He can introduce legislation forcing Red China to properly value their currency or, under Article 1, Section 8, we'll do it for them.

He can introduce legislation preventing the move on national security grounds.

He can introduce legislation forcing Sensata to relocate the displaced workers before the move overseas can take place.

I can do this all day long... proposing solutions to this horrible mess, but the reality is, this Congressman's ONLY response was to write a letter to the company CEO and beg him to reconsider screwing over his fellow Americans. Even if all the proposals were to fail, or never make to the House floor - introducing the legislation stopping this bullshit IS worth the attempt.

Fuck! Five minutes writing the shit down on paper, two minutes reading it on the floor, and thirty minutes to let 'em all vote on it how they fucking want to vote on it... BUT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, LEGISLATE!

Look, it's just this simple: You're on Red China's side (for whatever reason, to include the value of your stock shares) or your on your American neighbor's side.

We can go off on a numberous tangents about capitalism, foreign trade, domestic profitability, et cetera, but it really is as simple as deciding whether you're loyal to either your own democratic republic, or choose to coddle a communist totalitarian state.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
33. Next time, if he dares to talk to you again
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jul 2012

ask him why congress spent nearly a billion dollars on wasted efforts to repeal "Obamacare". Why did he think the 33rd time voting on it would be any different than the previous 32 votes? Remind him of the definition of insanity.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
36. I would have loved to been there! I think
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jul 2012

I would have followed him pestering him for answers to that mans questions!

Itchinjim

(3,085 posts)
37. Bobby is a real nasty piece of work.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:44 PM
Jul 2012

And the douchebag holds Lane Evans old seat. I'm across the river from Rock Island and Bobby is the Rep I want to see defeated most this November. John Boner's smarmy Teabagging pizzaboy. Go Cheri!

calimary

(81,297 posts)
39. EXCEPTIONALLY Well Done!!!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jul 2012

I think you probably didn't get comments in the beginning because we were all too busy reading and studying what you wrote - so we can apply it in our own circumstances.

CONFRONT THEM WITH THEIR SHIT. All they have is talking points and slogans and bumper sticker phrases because they really don't understand any of this. They're just angry and lashing out, and acting out. They just know what sounds good in feeding their outrage and indignation. And they'll believe anything at this point.

VenusRising

(11,252 posts)
41. Good for you!
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jul 2012

I, too, wish there was video for this exchange to be put up on YouTube. Considering the fact that you were talking local politics, I hope that enough people around heard you.



DhhD

(4,695 posts)
45. Every time we talk about or say China we need to say
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

Communist China instead of just saying China. You have inspired me to do this. Thanks.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
49. There's a few of us angry Democrats.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 07:17 PM
Jul 2012

Thank you, you spoke for all of us. Gonna send $20 to your campaign and wish it could be more.

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
51. Schilling is tearing into his opponent
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jul 2012

Cheri Bustos is her name and he keeps on saying that she cannot and will not represent the people of the 17th district because she is getting major funding from-GASP!-Chicago Dems including (mostly) Durbin.
One more thing about him; he and David Loebsack have been working in a "bi-partisan" manner to keep any cuts from coming to the Rock Island Arsenal and to finally get a much needed new Interstate 74 bridge spanning the Mississippi River, a bridge which is much needed. Except Schilling voted against the transportation bill which would have guaranteed funding for the bridge. So his "bipartisanship" is just a facade. Not only that, his campaign and the repukes just keep ripping Loebsack. So schilling can kiss my ass and I don't even live in Illinois.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
61. DUDE, YOU KICKED HIS TEABAGGER ASS!
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jul 2012

Really fine, man. Blast his RW ass so he thinks before opening his pie hole, and when he does try to give his RW bullshit, perhaps another informed soul will also blast Schilling, you know, based on your little kickass set of remarks.

OneAngryDemocrat

(2,060 posts)
66. It's Hard to Believe they're Shutting Down the Sensata Plant...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:18 PM
Jul 2012

Every local business servicing the Sensata employees in the area will suffer when Sensata closes it's doors - it is going to, literally, kill this town.

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