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Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:03 PM Jul 2012

Rmoney Is Screwed Either Way With His Tax Return Fiasco.

If he refuses to disclose them, he will be accused of hiding something, which of course he is, and if he does disclose them, he is going to incriminate himself as he has been lying all along about the time frame concerning his control of Bain Capital, and the set-up of his so-called 'blind trusts'.

I think the Obama campaign knows exactly what is happening, they are well aware of the time frames involved, and they are letting Mittens slowly twist in the wind, just waiting for the timing to click into place.

Mittens has been gaming the system all along, and his desperate bid to be president just might cost him more than a loss at the polls, it might cost him a loss of millions of dollars.

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Rmoney Is Screwed Either Way With His Tax Return Fiasco. (Original Post) Ikonoklast Jul 2012 OP
I suspect that one of the nasty little secrets is hifiguy Jul 2012 #1
The box he put himself in looks a lot smaller from the inside. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #6
I'm sure his tax returns, if revealed, will show he paid at a 90% rate on income aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #2
LOL! Segami Jul 2012 #3
Huh? Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #4
I see. Mitt is playing the "Possum Gambit". Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #14
I bet his investments include betting AGAINST the U.S., a terrible thing for a Presidential nominee. FarLeftFist Jul 2012 #5
I wish I could feel comfortable about this, but looking back asjr Jul 2012 #7
Not to mention the tens of millions lost by his fellow billionaire backers. DCKit Jul 2012 #8
They don't that kind of coin away for free. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #15
Stand back...he's gonna blow C_U_L8R Jul 2012 #9
Indictments are awaiting.... Woody Woodpecker Jul 2012 #10
Just like all those wall street bankers. democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #13
Even further... JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #11
Cough, cough LOL! Segami Jul 2012 #12
Hmmm. Thus should be expanded into an OP. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #16
Have at it. JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #24
Won't the media just ignore it? get the red out Jul 2012 #17
They might not have to. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #18
I like that thought get the red out Jul 2012 #20
As a fellow DUer mentioned yesterday, this may be happening too soon. panader0 Jul 2012 #19
"Hi there!" Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #22
nothing will come of this, but Obama still might be a Kenyan Muslim NightWatcher Jul 2012 #21
Eliot Spitzer has the knowledge, moxy and motivation to kiranon Jul 2012 #23
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. I suspect that one of the nasty little secrets is
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jul 2012

that Mittwit paid fundamentally no US taxes for years thanks to all of his offshore cash stashes. A guy worth hundreds of millions paying functionally zero taxes in the country where he made all his money will go down with a lot of voters like a Virginia ham at a Passover seder.

Disclose and he's screwn, keep it secret and it makes him look even more dishonest than he almost certainly is.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
6. The box he put himself in looks a lot smaller from the inside.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jul 2012

And it is getting smaller by the minute.


The Obama campaign people will use this to their great advantage.

"Mitt Rmoney paid ZERO taxes over the last ten years by hiding his money in Swiss bank accounts, and lying on his tax returns about his control of Bain Capital and blind trusts. How much did you pay in taxes in those last ten years, Mr. and Mrs. America?"

"Mitt Rmoney doesn't have to pay taxes because he sends his money to the Cayman Islands, but he wants your taxes to go up if you work for a living and earn a paycheck. Is this who you want running our country, a tax cheat?"

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
2. I'm sure his tax returns, if revealed, will show he paid at a 90% rate on income
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jul 2012

I just know it. Democrats will have egg on their faces.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
4. Huh?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jul 2012

What makes you say that?


If Mittens has nothing to hide (or embarrass Democrats with), then.....................?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
14. I see. Mitt is playing the "Possum Gambit".
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jul 2012

Just biding his time, waiting, then...

Boom!
It all blows up in his face!


Wait a minute, that's not how it's supposed to work.


He's fucked.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
7. I wish I could feel comfortable about this, but looking back
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jul 2012

at the days after Obama was sworn in and The Turtle (McConnell) stated the Republican goal about making Obama a one term president, too much has happened. I look at the Republican governors turning down "Obamacare", Medicaid, refusing to pass any good laws, passing state laws that would decimate voting in this country, and they think nothing of lying to to country. They have caused the country to come to a standstill. They have done that for almost 4 years and they are not through. They are the Party of Mean and will stop at nothing to gain control of all of us. I have never seen anything like it happening in our country before. Our votes must be counted.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
8. Not to mention the tens of millions lost by his fellow billionaire backers.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jul 2012

I'd rather take a juicy steak away from a pit bull than deprive a billionaire of a buck.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. They don't that kind of coin away for free.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jul 2012

They expect, no, they DEMAND a return on that investment.

Mitt's campaign is turning into the "Never Do Business With A Mormon If You Aren't a Mormon Because You're Gonna Get Screwed" type of deal.

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
9. Stand back...he's gonna blow
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jul 2012

and the mess will be glorious.

Mitt deserves every morsel of blowback
that comes his way.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
10. Indictments are awaiting....
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jul 2012

Once Robme releases his taxes.

Every single penny will be audited to the hilt.

And will find monkey business, and therefore, indicted.

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
13. Just like all those wall street bankers.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jul 2012

But it would be nice. Who would indict? Everyone would be labelled as an Obama appointee and it would just be written off as politics.

Best I can hope for is a lawsuit by the investors who thought he was either running/not running Bain and gave them money. Fraud is fraud.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
11. Even further...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jul 2012

The GOP/Tea Party platform is that Obama is taxing people to death.

If Romney paid very little or no taxes over the last several years, it quickly deflates that point. Romney can't very well go on the campaign trail and speak about how high taxes are strangling "job creators" when he's using the Leona Helmsley signature edition of TurboTax.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
16. Hmmm. Thus should be expanded into an OP.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jul 2012

Good thought, there.

How can the so-called "Job Creators" be complaining about high taxes WHEN THEY DON'T PAY ANY??

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
24. Have at it.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:27 PM
Jul 2012

I'm heading out for the day.

Romney is compalining how a 3% increase on nothing will somehow upset "job creators" and lead them to cut employees. I can see Pizza Hut telling customers to go elsewhere for a calzone because the CEO wants in a lower income bracket.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
18. They might not have to.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jul 2012

Overheard while standing in line to pay for coffee, two old duffers talking about Rmoney not paying any taxes because of his Swiss Bank accounts.

When the 'Little People' are taking notice, it won't matter what the media does.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
20. I like that thought
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jul 2012

That might be the one thing that could overcome the massive campaign money supporting Romney, let's hope anyway. With the media as it is, and after Citizen's United, I had started giving up on democracy in this country.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
19. As a fellow DUer mentioned yesterday, this may be happening too soon.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jul 2012

He may be out of the running even before the GOP convention.
If he tanks, and I think he will, the GOP is fucked. Is there even a remote posibility that the GOP could run a different candidate?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
21. nothing will come of this, but Obama still might be a Kenyan Muslim
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jul 2012

we dont pay attention to real problems, issues, or crimes, just crap that is spewed on tv and radio to a frothy bunch of idiot followers

Mark my words, Mittens will not have to answer for any of this. He will counter with negative tv ads that are based on falsehoods and his super pacs will propagate other falsehoods and name calling.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
23. Eliot Spitzer has the knowledge, moxy and motivation to
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:29 PM
Jul 2012

find out what is and isn't true re the SEC filings.

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