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Explainer: Why the LIBOR scandal is a bigger deal than JPMorganPosted by Dylan Matthews - WaPo
July 5, 2012 at 11:10 am
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Last week, Barclays admitted to rigging the London InterBank Offered Rate (LIBOR) and agreed to pay U.S. and British regulators $450 million dollars in penalties to settle the case. Then the heads began to roll: On Tuesday, its CEO, Bob Diamond, and COO Jerry del Missier resigned, and yesterday Diamond told a British parliamentary inquiry that regulators in Washington and London alike were complicit in his manipulations.
This is a big deal. Remember that JP Morgan scandal a few months back? That was mostly JP Morgan hurting itself. The LIBOR scandal was Barclays making money by hurting you.
In the simplest terms, LIBOR is the average interest rate which banks in London are charging each other for borrowing. Its calculated by Thomson Reuters the parent company of the Reuters news agency for the British Banking Association (BBA), a trade association of banks and financial services companies. The actual process of determining the rates is dead simple, and in fact conducted by only two people. Donald MacKenzie, a sociology professor at the University of Edinburgh, described the process in the London Review of Books:
A simple computer program discards the lowest quarter and highest quarter of the estimates, and calculates the average of the remainder. The result is that days Libor. The calculation is repeated for each of ten currencies and 15 loan durations (from overnight to 12 months), so 150 Libors are published daily: overnight sterling Libor, one-week euro Libor, one-month yen Libor, three-month US dollar Libor and so on.
So why does everyone care about a handful of numbers that a couple guys in an office crunch every day before lunch? The simple answer is that $360 trillion in assets worldwide are indexed to LIBOR, and much of those assets are consumer debt instruments like mortgages, car loans and credit card loans.
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Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)hopefully there will be prosecutions & stringent (I would prefer draconian) regulations going forward.
malaise
(269,086 posts)and the links to Willard (ex-CEO Bob Diamond was supposed to be hosting his London fund-raiser) are simply delish!!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)And think about that for a moment... a London Fund-Raiser.
Why would the British be donating to an American Presidential Election?
malaise
(269,086 posts)cheer on the athletes (most of whom are from the 99%) and to plot about trade and commerce and how to make the 1% richer..
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)as are many bankers in London (the Barclays COO who also resigned was Canadian, not American; it's an international circuit, with most spending part of their careers in different countries).
turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)HOW do they come up with so many ways to screw the 99%? And what are the odds this won't disappear before truth finds a way to appear?
GROAN!!
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)But Barclay's could be huge and illegal. Was Barclay's cashing out interest rate swaps while LIBOR was manipulated?
Look at how the two respond. Dimon of JPM was contrite but confident and its all blown over.
Diamond of Barclay's quit and is circling the wagons around him.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Barclays is really remarkable because the setters even did favors for traders outside the firm! Unreal. The setters are not even paid all that much - but it shows that they wanted to help out a few big swingers hoping they could make friends with someone that could help them down the line.
The emails made it look like the people did not even realize this was a big deal - if it was run of the mill insider trading of stocks, they never would have been so open in the emails.
riderinthestorm
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(12,121 posts)MannyGoldstein
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OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Or some such bullshit.
byoung6
(47 posts)Of a place I worked that employed over 8k mostly part-time workers in over nite shipping. Every week the supervisors would tell the leads which time clocks not to use in which buildings because every week a few clocks were set to short the workers 5-10 min. Now, you might say whats 5-10 min? But multiply that by lets say you capture say half of those 8k workers for 5-10 min....see? And due to the nature of the work people were moving from job to job, building to building all nite long. Now thats a luctrative! Anyway, thats what this libor scandal reminds me of, colluding to make millions and billions a few dollars at a time from millions of people, who's the wiser unless ya get caught, thats why everything feels rigged against a working person.
This scandal if actually investigated and the truth is allowed out is gonna be huge on both sides of the pond, and btw, anybody who watched the c-span british investigation notiice that Barclay's is in trouble for this from as far back as 2007!
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)just1voice
(1,362 posts)the rates of return we should have been getting on our checking, saving and investment accounts. Too bad the banks are "too big to convict".
JohnyCanuck
(9,922 posts)Another week, another banking scandal. If youve seen the papers youll have seen Barclays boss Bob Diamond falling on his sword and professing his love for Barclays, the bank at the centre of a scandal about manipulating interest rates. Politicians have been expressing their moral indignation that a bank a bank, of all things! could do something that wasnt entirely in the public interest. And yet, for the fifth year since the banking crisis started, the media once again managed to cough up a million words of analysis whilst completely and utterly missing the point.
So what if Barclays manipulated Libor, the interest rate statistics that influences how much interest people pay on millions of mortgages, loans and other financial contracts? Weve given the banking sector a monopoloy on creating the nations money supply, in the form of those numbers that appear in your account. Rather than getting angry that weve been slightly overcharged for the privilege of borrowing this money from them, maybe we should be getting angry that weve been put in a position where we are collectively forced into a position of debt to the banking system.
We have to stay focused on what the real problem in banking is. We need to tackle the creation of money, by private profit seeking-banks, for their own short-term interest. A system like this will never work well for society or ordinary people.
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riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)But an evening K&R nonetheless - a really excellent article that deserves more views...
WillyT
(72,631 posts)And thanks for the
upi402
(16,854 posts)for decades on end
good thing we can vote the bums out here in the land of the free!
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riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)and remembered this OP. A most excellent piece that deserved more views... (sorry, I'm just a bit punchy).