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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:18 AM Jul 2012

Compassionate garden pest control - no kill gardening

Compassionate garden pest control

From bugs to birds to bunny rabbits, you can control almost every animal annoyance without resorting to violent means.



Pests are a part of gardening. Period. And although traditional techniques (like the ones recommended by the Chicago pest control experts at the University of Illinois Extension Service) revolve around killing these creatures — either chemically or manually — a small but enthusiastic group of food growers is reimagining the ethics of gardening. And including a strict “no-kill” policy.

From bugs to birds to bunny rabbits, you can control almost every animal annoyance without resorting to violent means. But before you even begin to target the critters, there are a few very general rules for keeping your crops protected: 1) growing in raised beds as opposed to the ground, 2) using scattered and diverse planting patterns (no monocultures) and 3) practicing crop rotation each season. These are fundamental to a healthy backyard food or flower ecosystem.

As for the actual pests, aim to reduce them, not to completely wipe them out. You’ve got to be realistic, and work with the natural world, not against it. Focus your energy on making your plants strong. Healthy soil will build hardy plants that can handle a small assault now and them. Try to include plenty of pest-deterrent allies, like marigolds, garlic, basil, coriander, thyme, dahlias, dill, etc. And finally, for those pesky little pests ...

go to link below for list of tips

http://www.mnn.com/your-home/organic-farming-gardening/stories/compassionate-garden-pest-control

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Compassionate garden pest control - no kill gardening (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 OP
I see tomato hornworms and cabbage loopers, those things Warpy Jul 2012 #1
Chinese stink bugs get no mercy from me. nt tsuki Jul 2012 #8
I never use chemicals. cwydro Jul 2012 #2
Fortunately, squashes grow quickly. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #12
I always say sorry to snails before roody Jul 2012 #3
Crushed egg shells lined around the plants you don't want snails on. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #15
I don't have a problem with snails, so I haven't tried this myself, but I've been told that Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #20
Dish soap and mail order lady bugs work for me. Walk away Jul 2012 #4
Coyote piss will scare away critters. MADem Jul 2012 #5
It's generally considered..... sendero Jul 2012 #6
I will refrain from telling my husband this... a la izquierda Jul 2012 #7
Urine has lots of good stuff it. And you don't waste perfectly good drinking water by pissing in it. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #16
Oh, no doubt... a la izquierda Jul 2012 #22
I dunno--I don't think the rabbits and squirrels are scared one bit of people pee. MADem Jul 2012 #10
I'm getting lion and tiger poop BlueToTheBone Jul 2012 #9
Wow--that's something! I am curious to know how this will work out, too! MADem Jul 2012 #11
where do you get coyote pee? HiPointDem Jul 2012 #13
That process may be inhumane. roody Jul 2012 #23
Pennyroyal keeps out many insect pests. Dogs work for rabbits. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #14
Rifles, traps & poison work well for the wineries around here. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #17
I have a handy tip for mole problems Oilwellian Jul 2012 #18
Two products that keep deer away... ProfessionalLeftist Jul 2012 #19
I do not feel compassion for Japanese beetles LiberalEsto Jul 2012 #21

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
1. I see tomato hornworms and cabbage loopers, those things
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:25 AM
Jul 2012

are going to go into a can of soapy water and disposed of far, far away from my precious garden.

Other than that, I did a lot of companion planting and had few problems.

I dispatched critters that were killing the veg but not with bug spray.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. I never use chemicals.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:31 AM
Jul 2012

I've had great success with my crops, but the storms we had the other night flattened my corn and uprooted the squash. The corn stood back up...we'll see with the squash.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
12. Fortunately, squashes grow quickly.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 08:00 AM
Jul 2012

At least summer squashes do. Not too late to replant in most places, especially since it's looking like we may have a longer than normal summer.

roody

(10,849 posts)
3. I always say sorry to snails before
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 02:14 AM
Jul 2012

I smash them. I hope they feel no pain. I sometimes use the organic snail killer. That is probably inhumane.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
15. Crushed egg shells lined around the plants you don't want snails on.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 09:25 AM
Jul 2012

They do not like.

Also: small bowl of beer. They crawl in and die happy.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
20. I don't have a problem with snails, so I haven't tried this myself, but I've been told that
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jul 2012

sprinkling used coffee grounds around your plants will discourage snails and slugs. They don't like to crawl across them. Wood ashes have been used for the same purpose.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
4. Dish soap and mail order lady bugs work for me.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 02:16 AM
Jul 2012

I grow lots of herbs and that helps. I don't even use organic fertilizer because the dogs roll in it.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
6. It's generally considered.....
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:48 AM
Jul 2012

.... that any predator piss will scare off deer and rabbits and ?. Man counts as a predator in this case (or woman of course) so pee in your garden early and often (but not directly on the plants).

We have deer tracks all around our garden but they haven't eaten one thing as far as I can tell.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
7. I will refrain from telling my husband this...
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:13 AM
Jul 2012

he thinks it's perfectly fine to pee in the yard when he's too lazy to stroll back indoors. I do not want to garden around man-pee.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
16. Urine has lots of good stuff it. And you don't waste perfectly good drinking water by pissing in it.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/07/trickle-down-theory

Nutrient rich and superabundant, urine is a top-rate fertilizer. One person's yearly output contains enough nutrients to fertilize up to a tenth of an acre of fruits and veggies.



/snip

but as noted. Just avoid urinating ON the plants.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. I dunno--I don't think the rabbits and squirrels are scared one bit of people pee.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:54 AM
Jul 2012

But they'll run like they are scalded from coyote piss!

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
9. I'm getting lion and tiger poop
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:31 AM
Jul 2012

to drop at the places where they want to come into my garden and around places they think they own in my garden. I'll keep you updated, the poop comes today.

(We have a big cat preserve where we live and they are happy to give away) Wish me luck!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. Wow--that's something! I am curious to know how this will work out, too!
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 07:56 AM
Jul 2012

I can tell you that coyote pee works, I never thought about poop!

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
14. Pennyroyal keeps out many insect pests. Dogs work for rabbits.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 09:19 AM
Jul 2012

Deer don't venture into our yard so I don't have to worry about that yet. I use a mixture of hot pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, and black pepper in a sugar shaker around the perimeter. That helps a lot and doesn't change the pH.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
17. Rifles, traps & poison work well for the wineries around here.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jul 2012

The entire animal population has dropped a huge amount since they moved in and started waging war on them. I miss the company of them. I myself could never shoot a doe & her fawn but people do like old grape juice so I guess its a necessary evil.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
18. I have a handy tip for mole problems
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:11 AM
Jul 2012

If your yard has moles and you want to get rid of them without killing them or poisoning your yard, spread blood meal over the little critters. They pick up their belongings and vacate rather quickly when you do that. If you have a rather large yard, you may have to reapply as you continually nudge them to the end of your property. I learned this from a local farmer and it really works well.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
19. Two products that keep deer away...
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:17 AM
Jul 2012

No chemicals, all natural stuff:

Liquid Fence
http://www.liquidfence.com/deer-repellent.html

IMustGarden
http://www.imustgarden.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=8&pg=1

Liquid Fence STNKS - rotten egg, vinegar smell - but goes away when it dries & deer will still smell & avoid it & anything it surrounds - spray on or around individual plants and/or entire garden.

I prefer IMustGarden, which works as well and is used same way - but without the atrocious odor.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
21. I do not feel compassion for Japanese beetles
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jul 2012

When I see them devouring a beautiful rose, I bring out a paper cup of water with a bit of dish detergent, hold it under the flower and inform them that it's swim time. They usually drop right in. I dump the dead beetles under the rosebushes to provide them with extra nutrients.

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