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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 05:31 PM Dec 2011

What the hell is wrong with people?

According to the latest Gallup Poll,
-- Americans' concerns about the threat of big government continue to dwarf those about big business and big labor, and by an even larger margin now than in March 2009. The 64% of Americans who say big government will be the biggest threat to the country is just one percentage point shy of the record high, while the 26% who say big business is down from the 32% recorded during the recession. Relatively few name big labor as the greatest threat.

Almost half of Democrats now say big government is the biggest threat to the nation, more than say so about big business, and far more than were concerned about big government in March 2009. The 32% of Democrats concerned about big government at that time -- shortly after President Obama took office -- was down significantly from a reading in 2006, when George W. Bush was president.

How in the hell could any democrat buy into that "big government" bullshit and what can we do to stop it??

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151490/Fear-Big-Government-Near-Record-Level.aspx

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What the hell is wrong with people? (Original Post) sufrommich Dec 2011 OP
To be fair, it's not the corporations that are beating up on OWS protesters.. Fumesucker Dec 2011 #1
To be fair, the corporations' media toadies do the job of beating up on OWS protesters.... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #11
... Fumesucker Dec 2011 #12
Mass media. Any more questions? saras Dec 2011 #2
Bingo! jimlup Dec 2011 #4
Psy Ops works. paparush Dec 2011 #3
Still articles like the one showing that the military is giving equipment to the police gives me Mojorabbit Dec 2011 #8
The US media, owned by big corporations Terra Alta Dec 2011 #5
This is because of the Bank Bailout, IMO Odin2005 Dec 2011 #6
This is ProSense Dec 2011 #7
Good post. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2011 #9
Big Gov'ts do BIG THINGS.....Small gov't gives us what you see all around us...blue tents growing opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #10
Sometimes ya gotta wonder if they took a 'stupid pill'. n/t Little Star Dec 2011 #13

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
4. Bingo!
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:51 PM
Dec 2011

It is all about propaganda. People are suckers and most don't even comprehend that it happens.

paparush

(7,964 posts)
3. Psy Ops works.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:49 PM
Dec 2011

Lie to people over and over and over. Give them false boogey men. Make them feel persecuted. Rinse and repeat.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
8. Still articles like the one showing that the military is giving equipment to the police gives me
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:42 PM
Dec 2011

pause. Just sayin. I am keeping my eyes open in every direction.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
5. The US media, owned by big corporations
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:56 PM
Dec 2011

is feeding people the lie that government=bad and corporations=good. What's sad is that even supposed Democrats believe that lie.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. This is
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:38 PM
Dec 2011

"Almost half of Democrats now say big government is the biggest threat to the nation, more than say so about big business, and far more than were concerned about big government in March 2009."

....one of those polls that doesn't tell you much without context.

For example, the piece states:

Historically, Americans have always been more concerned about big government than big business or big labor in response to this trend question dating back to 1965. Concerns about big business surged to a high of 38% in 2002, after the large-scale accounting scandals at Enron and WorldCom. An all-time-high 65% of Americans named big government as the greatest threat in 1999 and 2000. Worries about big labor have declined significantly over the years, from a high of 29% in 1965 to the 8% to 11% range over the past decade and a half.

This shows that the current level isn't unusual. The concern for big business surged to 32 percent (see below) after the current economic collapse.

People are marching in the streets over inequality and Wall Street greed. Poll after poll shows strong support for taxing the rich, regulating the banks (Wall Street reform was the most popular legislation passed with 60% from the day it was signed) and ending loopholes for greedy corporations.

There is, however, another side of the concern with government that cannot be contrasted with the concern about big business, and that's in the area of civil liberties.

Here's another chart from the piece in the OP:



Everyone knows why Republicans' numbers jumped (Kenyan socialist President), but Independent's have stayed fairly constant.

The numbers for Democrats dropped then went climbed back up. I suspect that the concern is about overreach in terms of civil liberties.

All in all it's misleading. What we need to know is what the respondents are concerned about.

Sort of like the polls on health care that show a majority disapprove of the reform law, but that number includes people who want it expanded and those who want it repealed.

Context matters.




opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
10. Big Gov'ts do BIG THINGS.....Small gov't gives us what you see all around us...blue tents growing
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 10:01 PM
Dec 2011

in numbers...in some areas, the tents are back to back....

Never vote Red if ya want misery


the GOPers are for themselves and screw everyone else

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