"I don't care what's in the bill. I just want a ceremony."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

"I don't care what's in the bill. I just want a ceremony."


- Donald Trump on the American Health Care Act colloquially known as Chump Care.

Let's wrap our melons around that. He was willing to throw twenty four million people off of health care, some of whom would get sick and die, for the glory of a signing ceremony.

[Stuart G]

1. Pretty sick s**t...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I'm surprised it hasn't got more attention.

[Docreed2003]

3. And that's Donald Trump in a nutshell

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. Is that a real quote?

Link?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Wait for the transcript. See Post 12

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[FreepFryer]

6. Googling the quote returns only this page and one other... can u post a link please? (n/t)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. It takes forty eight hours to get a transcript up. It was on yesterday -3/29.

http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/hardball

It was toward the end, in the "Tell me something I don't know" segment.

[FreepFryer]

15. So the New York Times' Peter Alexander said it on Chris Matthews' MSNBC?

Not trying to split hairs, I know u know clear attribution matters to avoid the spread of disinformation.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I am reporting what I observed.

I will pretend I am under oath. Consider it an affidavit:

I was watching Hardball on March 29, 2017 and during the "Tell me something I don't know" segment a guest told Chris Matthews that regarding the passage of the American Health Care Act Donald Trump said " I don't care what's in the bill I just want a ceremony." I initially thought it was Peter Alexander but after googling his image I don't think so. I am sure of the quote. I am not sure of the guest.

[FreepFryer]

18. I appreciate any effort to attribute and thus avoid the spread of loose or apocryphal quotes. (n/t)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Independent corroboration

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028869569

And more corroboration:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028869569#post1

[FreepFryer]

21. Both unattributed - anecdotal. Sad! PS - Alexander works for NBC News, not the New York Times. (n/t)

[pinboy3niner]

20. Could it have been Jeremy Peters of the NYT?

[FreepFryer]

22. Would make more sense, given that Peter Alexander works for NBC News. (n/t)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. This escalated quickly. I already said in my affidavit I wasn't sure of the guest

I will pretend I am under oath. Consider it an affidavit:

I was watching Hardball on March 29, 2017 and during the "Tell me something I don't know" segment a guest told Chris Matthews that regarding the passage of the American Health Care Act Donald Trump said " I don't care what's in the bill I just want a ceremony." I initially thought it was Peter Alexander but after googling his image I don't think so. I am sure of the quote. I am not sure of the guest.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8871214

I hate pretense be it online or offline, so I will eschew it. Stop suggesting I'm a liar, okay?

[FreepFryer]

31. Wow. I never suggested that AT ALL. Why would I? I asked u to attribute what u put in quotes. (n/t)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Because you "hung your hat" on the fact I had my guest wrong.

I was recounting something I saw on tv fifteen hours ago. I got the quote right. More corroboration:

What Trump said during healthcare debacle
joaniepoanie14 hours ago
According to Jeremy Peters of the NYT Trump told people:

"I don't care what's in the bill, I just want a ceremony."

Just in case anyone still harbored any hope he gives a dam about the American people. Always was and always will be about him.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/4547211/what-trump-said-during-healthcare-debacle

[FreepFryer]

37. You're misreading my intentions, I hope not intentionally. I didn't doubt, I asked for attribution.

Not sure why you are responding so personally to such a straightforward request.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. A truce.

At the end of the day if anybody is responsible for establishing the veracity of the quote it's Mr. Peters and not me. By that I mean there is a transcript and video of Peters saying it. It is up to him to establish that Trump said it. I am sure it's sourced.

[FreepFryer]

43. I wasn't doubting its veracity. Plainly, if u "livetweet" on DU, attribute what u put in quotes.

Quotes means a quote - and you should know whom you are quoting when you decide to post it here in quotes.

I'm not the only user on this thread who asked for this information - it's crucial to those who didn't have the pleasure to watch the program themselves.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Did you see the segment I alluded to did the guest say what I attributed to him?

Thank you in advance.

[FreepFryer]

30. No, i DIDN'T see the segment, that's why I asked you for proper attribution!

That's why it matters.

[malaise]

23. I could not believe what I was hearing

All form - no content - the man is sick.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. A poster is suggesting I made it up.

[FreepFryer]

28. Hardly. Details & attribution of video segments are crucial for those who aren't watching.

Don't take it personally - it's not about you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. It was fifteen or so hours ago when I watched it

Here is more evidence that gives context to the "disputed" quote:

Donald Trump had heard enough about policy and process. It was Thursday afternoon and members of the House Freedom Caucus were peppering the president with wonkish concerns about the American Health Care Act—the language that would leave Obamacare’s “essential health benefits” in place, the community rating provision that limited what insurers could charge certain patients, and whether the next two steps of Speaker Paul Ryan’s master plan were even feasible—when Trump decided to cut them off.

"Forget about the little shit," Trump said, according to multiple sources in the room. "Let's focus on the big picture here."

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/obamacare-vote-paul-ryan-health-care-ahca-replacement-failure-trump-214947

[FreepFryer]

34. I've read that piece but I'm sure others appreciate the context. I await attribution...

...because the quote you posted is very eye-catching.

[malaise]

38. Just laugh

[FreepFryer]

45. :) In this case, no one's actually doubting... all the more reason for a hearty chuckle :) (n/t)

[Paladin]

7. That statement should be carved on his memorial. (nt)

[Tanuki]

13. Indeed. It should go down in history with other signature presidential quotes

like "Ask not what your country can do for you...," "The buck stops here," and "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" I can't think of a better summation of Trump, his mentality, and his fitness for the job.

[jberryhill]

27. I don't care what's on the memorial, I just want a ceremony

[FreepFryer]

29. LOL! Great line. (n/t)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. With everything we know about Trump...

With everything we know about Trump I hold out little hope that him not caring about a bill, even a potentiality life and death one for some Americans , is going to move a significant number of his hard core supporters.

[malaise]

39. You win the thread

High quality DUzy

[FreepFryer]

44. Right? So funny! (n/t)

[malaise]

48. Love your username

Keep on fryin' the lyin' ReTHUGs

[FreepFryer]

49. Thanks malaise! :) just doing my part to Keep America Beautiful :)

[mcar]

8. And some of those people would have

celebrated their dear leader's "win."

[spanone]

9. he's a 'REALITY TEEVEE STAR' nothing else.

[forgotmylogin]

10. He reeeeeeallly likes writing his name.

[bdamomma]

33. and showing it off.

[NightWatcher]

11. Give us Medicare for all and Bernie Sanders will throw you a goddamn parade

Millions will line the streets and wave flags too

[AgadorSparticus]

14. He again and again proves he is a shallow, pathological POS.

The vanity of this man knows no bounds. Sickening!!

[smirkymonkey]

16. Every time I think he can't possibly shock me anymore

he goes ahead and does it.

He's the president and he doesn't care what is in the bill? He just wants to bask in the glory of having "triumphed" over Obama's ACA? What a sick motherfucker!

[ginnyinWI]

36. I am not surprised at ALL. nt

[ginnyinWI]

41. it's all politics with him.

He can say he fulfilled a promise. It's all optics.

All of his life that has been the only thing that matters--how it looks to people. That's how he has run his businesses.

Too bad if the delivery isn't anything like the promise, right?

[Mc Mike]

46. "Can we roll some missile launchers down the street DURING the ceremony?"

[Thomas Hurt]

47. par for the course for a malignant narcissist

[ck4829]

50. Fake cheap imitation style, no substance

[Warpy]

51. And he wanted it on the anniversary of the ACA's passage

so he could really poke a tiny finger into Obama's eye.

If he stays in for the full four years, expect him to dress in a Gilbert & Sullivan military uniform costume and review the troops marching in front of the White House, complete with mobile missiles and artillery pieces.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Citation

PETERS: So during the whole health care debacle which we know how that
ended, President Trump was so insistent that he get something done, he
actually told people, “I don`t care what`s in this bill. I just want a
ceremony.” He`s that desperate to get an achievement.


http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/hardball/2017-03-29