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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPSA if you are going to go hiking this summer
and trust me, we love to do it... please, PLEASE, carry ENOUGH water with you... listening to Rescue squads going on dehydrated call, after dehydrated call...
I know it is heavy, but damn it, please, please carry enough water.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Because I always bump into tenderfoots who where not prepared.
One bottle of gatorade, sealed, to give away as aid.
Four liters of water for me, in recycled bottles.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)I had first hand experience, last year in the summer time I went on a hike of a famous large rock formation nearby, and didn't take any water, but took pop instead. When I got to the top, I started feeling dizzy and then started to throw up, and had to sit down and felt weak. It was a very hot day, like in the 90s. I really wondered if I was going to be able to go back down the steep path that we went on to go up, and that maybe I would need to be airlifted off the top or something. And I'm in my early 40s, so its not like I'm elderly. Well, another hiker saw me in distress and shared his water with me, and then after a time I felt a lot better and was able to make it back down. (I thought of him as kind of a guardian angel, to be honest)
Don't take pop, take water and plenty of it! The caffeine in pop will dehydrate you.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I don't own one, and maybe will get one in a while, camelback. When we go hiking we take camera gear as well. So, here is what we carry in my backpack.
At least four bottles of water... a first aid kit, a whistle, a fire starter, two rescue blankets, and yes, some meds for headaches, as well as fast energy sources, like granola bars and fruit.
Did I mention the fifty feet of paracord and the rescue knife?
And that is for a day hike...
Last time we went, the quake came rumbling next day... and we might have had to spend some time on the trail.
But as a former rescue worker it is kind of fun to try to avoid that... oh and yes cell phones, maps and compasses, not that the cell phone could get a signal, but hey... If we came across an emergency we would mark point on map and while one stays with people needing help, the second would walk out map with location on hand.
petronius
(26,602 posts)Plus a small LED light, water purification tablets, and some tinder (vaseline+cotton) to go with the fire starter...
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)by the way, this works like a charm too... as long as you really break it up first.
obamanut2012
(26,069 posts)Plus the water bladder.
I have several different ones, from several different companies, for different excursions. My favorite one even has a compartment for trekking poles.
hlthe2b
(102,247 posts)or a filter or device (steripen) that is bacteriocidal and virucidal, in addition to filtering or killing parasites. One ought to be able to carry enough water for day trips, but you never know when someone in your group is going to come unprepared or you might be delayed.
Having a bottle you can run water through a simple coffee filter to remove debris and silt and then use one of these
will give you an extra safety margin. Very light weight and worth its weight in gold if you need it, both hiking, backpacking and third world travel (as well as hurricane or other emergencies that might down your local water plant). I have no financial interest in this device. There are also excellent filter system alternatives.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Sgent
(5,857 posts)a lot of the water available then (at least where I'm at) is brackish.... so not great.
Rainwater (unfiltered) is also fairly safe -- not perfect, but almost always better than getting dehydrated.
hlthe2b
(102,247 posts)I got to try out a multitude of methods in a remote area of India a few years ago for two weeks without treated water access. None of the eight of us got sick, though some of the water still smelled and looked pretty awful --even after filtering and treating.
But, yes, certainly rainwater would be comparably safe if that were an option.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)if you need water and there is not much close by.
Why I carry some of the crap I carry when hiking, the rescue blanket will make a good unit to get water by solar collector. Not every efficient, quantities are low... but might keep you alive.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I never thought of carrying water on a hike before!
K & R!
hlthe2b
(102,247 posts)As one who has come to the aid of more than one party of hikers--either unprepared, experiencing injuries, or ill from altitude in my years living in Colorado, sometimes what is "obvious" to you is clearly not to others.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I've often wondered what to do about my thirst while hiking and now I know.
I've already recced so here is a kick in the hopes that someone else might learn this info!
hlthe2b
(102,247 posts)Your feet will never so much as touch a sharp pebble along the path, snakes will run in the opposite direction, bears will spray themselves with pepperspray to avoid you and a pack of "gentled" wolves will guard your campsite each night.
No worries at all.....
zappaman
(20,606 posts)taterguy
(29,582 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)there, much better.
taterguy
(29,582 posts)One more and I get a toaster!
Right?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
kdmorris
(5,649 posts)I'm doing something wrong, dammit!!!
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Residents in the 22 towns are under a boil-water advisory and the entire county is being asked to conserve. There is a mandatory ban on outdoor watering and county residents are being told to shorten showers.
We understand its an inconvenience, said Richard Barnes, spokesman for NJ American Water, but we are asking customers to conserve as much water as they can.
The county was hit doubly hard as this is a particularly hot holiday weekend when tens of thousands will flock to the shore. It is not uncommon to see a spike in usage during a typical summer weekend, Barnes said. Generally, when its hot, people use more water, he said. It is a concern. Demand is usually up in the summer.
The problems began at noon on Friday when a 90-foot span of a wooden bridge collapsed, disabling three pipes at the company's water treatment plant.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/nearly_200000_could_be_without.html
Even at home, you can't always rely on the stuff you rely on.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)AGAIN... hey, actually I still do, for coffee.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)beer, wine, spirits, coffee, tea, and Coca-Cola
which generally have anti microbial properties due to alcohol or high acidity.
The funniest blog sequence from the boil water alert:
Q. I gave my dog water from the tap before I knew about the boil water alert. Will he be alright?
A. Yes. After all, they drink out of the toilet and lick each others butts.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)if our water quality goes down to the crapper again, I can see people drinking a lot more beer than they do today... and for kids, weak beer... (and those of us with gluten allergies will have to find the RICE variety)
hlthe2b
(102,247 posts)yes, they can tolerate a lot, but you don't want to push their "threshold"....
And, given how few "edumacated" humans bother to wash their hands, we end up the human equivalent of "licking butts"--sorry to be crude, but that's the truth.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)His ordeal lasted nearly a year.
And some three decades ago I worked for the guy whose son reportedly was the first case of deer tick Lyme Disease in the U.S. The father was very prominent in the Democratic Party, an old JFK advance man who was the stage manager for one of the recent Dem conventions.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)they can dry up... leaving you without water.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)what stream?
but that is an excellent point.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
zappaman
(20,606 posts)...do still like to monitor scanners.
It's in their blood.
To each their own.
EDITED to fix a typo.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Hell, I almost won't go if it's supposed to be 80F.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Hell, when I go to cover a fire, I got some of my supplies in the damn truck!
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Not even that San Gabriels. They are for spring and fall. Santa Monicas are for winter.