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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:51 PM Jun 2012

PSA if you are going to go hiking this summer

and trust me, we love to do it... please, PLEASE, carry ENOUGH water with you... listening to Rescue squads going on dehydrated call, after dehydrated call...

I know it is heavy, but damn it, please, please carry enough water.

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PSA if you are going to go hiking this summer (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 OP
I always carry extra Xipe Totec Jun 2012 #1
Good for you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #3
yes indeed quinnox Jun 2012 #2
That is but one reason nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #4
I like a mirror to go with the whistle, and a SPOT for rugged no-cell-phone areas petronius Jun 2012 #19
Yup, I knew I was forgetting some nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #23
There are hydration packs that will fit all of that obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #27
Or know where you can get water & supplement your water with an approved filtering device and iodine hlthe2b Jun 2012 #5
Absolultey nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #6
Although it might be somewhat useful in hurricane situations Sgent Jun 2012 #7
Lots of options for pre-filtering the debris in brackish water... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #9
There are a few other options as well nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #14
Thanks! zappaman Jun 2012 #8
Feel better? hlthe2b Jun 2012 #11
I will on my next hike! zappaman Jun 2012 #13
I'll bet if sarcasm will keep you cozy. ... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #16
And it keeps away the dingos, mate! n/t zappaman Jun 2012 #29
Thanks, mom taterguy Jun 2012 #10
Thanks for reminding me why you belong on ignore nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #12
Is this the 11th time I've made it onto your ignore list? taterguy Jun 2012 #22
Hehehe.... SidDithers Jun 2012 #32
I've only made it on her ignore list twice now kdmorris Jun 2012 #38
Officials urge nearly 200,000 residents to boil water after pipes break in Monmouth FarCenter Jun 2012 #15
True, and every so often I have gone and boiled my water nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #17
A History of the World in 6 Glasses FarCenter Jun 2012 #20
Oh absolutely nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #21
That questioner must never have experienced a dog with diarrhea... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #24
I thought that's what "water pills" were for...? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #18
And TICKS...check yourself for ticks if you've been out in the woods. They're bad this year. n/t Adsos Letter Jun 2012 #25
You of course are correct! nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #26
My little brother had a bout with Lyme disease from a tick after one of our fishing trips pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #31
Don't expect the stream on the map to be there taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #28
Of course in the backcountry around here nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #30
Just an easy Saturday night, relaxing with a glass of wine and the police scanner...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #33
Although that might seem odd to you, many ex-cops/former firemen(women)/retired EMTs... zappaman Jun 2012 #34
Watch the weather forecast. Don't GO hiking if it's supposed to be over 90F. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #35
Why we prefer to do it, NOT in the summer nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #36
The ONLY place I'd ever hike in the summer is the High Sierra. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #37

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. I always carry extra
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jun 2012

Because I always bump into tenderfoots who where not prepared.

One bottle of gatorade, sealed, to give away as aid.

Four liters of water for me, in recycled bottles.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. yes indeed
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jun 2012

I had first hand experience, last year in the summer time I went on a hike of a famous large rock formation nearby, and didn't take any water, but took pop instead. When I got to the top, I started feeling dizzy and then started to throw up, and had to sit down and felt weak. It was a very hot day, like in the 90s. I really wondered if I was going to be able to go back down the steep path that we went on to go up, and that maybe I would need to be airlifted off the top or something. And I'm in my early 40s, so its not like I'm elderly. Well, another hiker saw me in distress and shared his water with me, and then after a time I felt a lot better and was able to make it back down. (I thought of him as kind of a guardian angel, to be honest)

Don't take pop, take water and plenty of it! The caffeine in pop will dehydrate you.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. That is but one reason
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:14 PM
Jun 2012

I don't own one, and maybe will get one in a while, camelback. When we go hiking we take camera gear as well. So, here is what we carry in my backpack.

At least four bottles of water... a first aid kit, a whistle, a fire starter, two rescue blankets, and yes, some meds for headaches, as well as fast energy sources, like granola bars and fruit.

Did I mention the fifty feet of paracord and the rescue knife?

And that is for a day hike...

Last time we went, the quake came rumbling next day... and we might have had to spend some time on the trail.

But as a former rescue worker it is kind of fun to try to avoid that... oh and yes cell phones, maps and compasses, not that the cell phone could get a signal, but hey... If we came across an emergency we would mark point on map and while one stays with people needing help, the second would walk out map with location on hand.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
19. I like a mirror to go with the whistle, and a SPOT for rugged no-cell-phone areas
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:00 PM
Jun 2012

Plus a small LED light, water purification tablets, and some tinder (vaseline+cotton) to go with the fire starter...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. Yup, I knew I was forgetting some
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

by the way, this works like a charm too... as long as you really break it up first.

obamanut2012

(26,069 posts)
27. There are hydration packs that will fit all of that
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:24 PM
Jun 2012

Plus the water bladder.

I have several different ones, from several different companies, for different excursions. My favorite one even has a compartment for trekking poles.

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
5. Or know where you can get water & supplement your water with an approved filtering device and iodine
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jun 2012

or a filter or device (steripen) that is bacteriocidal and virucidal, in addition to filtering or killing parasites. One ought to be able to carry enough water for day trips, but you never know when someone in your group is going to come unprepared or you might be delayed.

Having a bottle you can run water through a simple coffee filter to remove debris and silt and then use one of these


will give you an extra safety margin. Very light weight and worth its weight in gold if you need it, both hiking, backpacking and third world travel (as well as hurricane or other emergencies that might down your local water plant). I have no financial interest in this device. There are also excellent filter system alternatives.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
7. Although it might be somewhat useful in hurricane situations
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jun 2012

a lot of the water available then (at least where I'm at) is brackish.... so not great.

Rainwater (unfiltered) is also fairly safe -- not perfect, but almost always better than getting dehydrated.

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
9. Lots of options for pre-filtering the debris in brackish water...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:35 PM
Jun 2012

I got to try out a multitude of methods in a remote area of India a few years ago for two weeks without treated water access. None of the eight of us got sick, though some of the water still smelled and looked pretty awful --even after filtering and treating.

But, yes, certainly rainwater would be comparably safe if that were an option.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. There are a few other options as well
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jun 2012

if you need water and there is not much close by.

Why I carry some of the crap I carry when hiking, the rescue blanket will make a good unit to get water by solar collector. Not every efficient, quantities are low... but might keep you alive.

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
11. Feel better?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jun 2012

As one who has come to the aid of more than one party of hikers--either unprepared, experiencing injuries, or ill from altitude in my years living in Colorado, sometimes what is "obvious" to you is clearly not to others.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
13. I will on my next hike!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jun 2012

I've often wondered what to do about my thirst while hiking and now I know.
I've already recced so here is a kick in the hopes that someone else might learn this info!

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
16. I'll bet if sarcasm will keep you cozy. ...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jun 2012

Your feet will never so much as touch a sharp pebble along the path, snakes will run in the opposite direction, bears will spray themselves with pepperspray to avoid you and a pack of "gentled" wolves will guard your campsite each night.

No worries at all.....

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
15. Officials urge nearly 200,000 residents to boil water after pipes break in Monmouth
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:47 PM
Jun 2012
MONMOUTH COUNTY — There are about 185,000 residents in 22 towns affected by the collapse of three large water pipes at NJ American Water’s treatment plant at Swimming River Reservoir, according to William Heine, spokesman for Monmouth County.

Residents in the 22 towns are under a boil-water advisory and the entire county is being asked to conserve. There is a mandatory ban on outdoor watering and county residents are being told to shorten showers.

“We understand it’s an inconvenience,” said Richard Barnes, spokesman for NJ American Water, “but we are asking customers to conserve as much water as they can.”

The county was hit doubly hard as this is a particularly hot holiday weekend when tens of thousands will flock to the shore. It is not uncommon to see a spike in usage during a typical summer weekend, Barnes said. “Generally, when it’s hot, people use more water,” he said. “It is a concern. Demand is usually up in the summer.”

The problems began at noon on Friday when a 90-foot span of a wooden bridge collapsed, disabling three pipes at the company's water treatment plant.


http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/nearly_200000_could_be_without.html

Even at home, you can't always rely on the stuff you rely on.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. True, and every so often I have gone and boiled my water
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jun 2012

AGAIN... hey, actually I still do, for coffee.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
20. A History of the World in 6 Glasses
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:04 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.amazon.com/A-History-World-6-Glasses/dp/0802715524/ref=pd_sim_b_1

beer, wine, spirits, coffee, tea, and Coca-Cola

which generally have anti microbial properties due to alcohol or high acidity.

The funniest blog sequence from the boil water alert:

Q. I gave my dog water from the tap before I knew about the boil water alert. Will he be alright?

A. Yes. After all, they drink out of the toilet and lick each others butts.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. Oh absolutely
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jun 2012

if our water quality goes down to the crapper again, I can see people drinking a lot more beer than they do today... and for kids, weak beer... (and those of us with gluten allergies will have to find the RICE variety)

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
24. That questioner must never have experienced a dog with diarrhea...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jun 2012

yes, they can tolerate a lot, but you don't want to push their "threshold"....

And, given how few "edumacated" humans bother to wash their hands, we end up the human equivalent of "licking butts"--sorry to be crude, but that's the truth.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. My little brother had a bout with Lyme disease from a tick after one of our fishing trips
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jun 2012

His ordeal lasted nearly a year.

And some three decades ago I worked for the guy whose son reportedly was the first case of deer tick Lyme Disease in the U.S. The father was very prominent in the Democratic Party, an old JFK advance man who was the stage manager for one of the recent Dem conventions.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
34. Although that might seem odd to you, many ex-cops/former firemen(women)/retired EMTs...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jun 2012

...do still like to monitor scanners.
It's in their blood.
To each their own.

EDITED to fix a typo.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
35. Watch the weather forecast. Don't GO hiking if it's supposed to be over 90F.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jun 2012

Hell, I almost won't go if it's supposed to be 80F.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. Why we prefer to do it, NOT in the summer
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:50 PM
Jun 2012


Hell, when I go to cover a fire, I got some of my supplies in the damn truck!
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
37. The ONLY place I'd ever hike in the summer is the High Sierra.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:56 PM
Jun 2012

Not even that San Gabriels. They are for spring and fall. Santa Monicas are for winter.

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