BREAKING: NBC vote tally has TrumpCare bill LOSING in House...

[brooklynite]

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[Me.]

1. God I Hope So

[get the red out]

4. Me too!

It's a murderous piece of shit.

[wordpix]

6. +10000

[still_one]

2. Good. You have the extreme republican haters verses the slightly less extreme republican haters

[msanthrope]

3. Damn...... they really​ want reelection.

I'm guessing the polling on the senate in 2018 is looking perilous for these assholes.

[Vogon_Glory]

8. Probably

That sounds more plausible than calling Louie Gohmert a "moderate."

A word to the wise as well as to Rookies: Louie's no moderate.

[GoCubsGo]

10. I suspect a fat chunk of them don't think Trump Care is mean enough.

[sheshe2]

18. Sadly,

I think you are right.

[NYC Liberal]

23. Bingo. That is exactly it.

Rand Paul is against it because he thinks it's "Obamacare Lite", for example.

Nevertheless, I don't really care. A defeat would be a massive blow to Drumpf, regardless of the reasons these Republicans vote against it.

[Cosmocat]

35. YEP - that is instructive, cause the next one up is the tax boondoggle

and you better believe they won't be tethered by trying to not have that be horrible enough ...

[PA Democrat]

41. You are most likely correct. They need an extra serving of CRUELTY with any bill they

would be willing to vote for.

[NewRedDawn]

47. Absolutely.

The only so called "moderate" is Ros- Lenithen. Rest all freedom fry fascists.

[TexasBushwhacker]

48. Yup, Gohmert is on the "no" lost

You'd better believe that stupid POS thinks it's too generous.

[calimary]

49. Yep. That's because, in their bone-marrow beliefs, THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU.

Their foundational beliefs about that mythical wonderful "small government" means it's not the government's job to help you, so then it's not THEIR job, either, to help you.

THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU.

AND their "philosophy" of "small government" tells them THEY DON'T HAVE TO HELP YOU.

THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU.

Their philosophy of government tells them it's not the government's job to help you. Small government. "Get the government off yer back" and all that. "Starve the government so small you can drown it in the bathtub." "Personal Responsibility!" and all that. "You're on yer own." "The most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'."

Therefore...

THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU.

Repeat:

THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU.

Repeat AGAIN:

THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU.

[Stuart G]

56. Not only..."THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU" BUT

they don't give a shit weather you live or die...

They think the U.S. has no inherent right to help its citizens survive....Only the rich and wealthy have a right to survive...Fuck everyone else.....Sad but true...just like.........

THEY DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU..........

[calimary]

59. Yep! That is it.

The bottom line is the bottom of the pit, on the bottom rung, for anyone who isn't wealthy and well-connected.

They sure as shit don't want to help ANYBODY like that. That bunch is too needy, too expensive, and too much of a nuisance. And probably won't make any campaign donations.

[hibbing]

63. Agree

Don't see my dbag member on that list.


Peace

[yeoman6987]

27. Yeah but these are house members

They are probably in districts not gerrymandered

[msanthrope]

43. I know...but understand that the loss of the Senate is fatal to

any House economic plan. any.

[underpants]

5. It'll pass the House

They're scared as shit that Trump will turn his knuckle draggers on them even in their protected little districts

[karynnj]

60. Except ... they see his approval ratings in the 30s

If they are also getting lots of calls from constituents to vote no -- they may fear voting for it more than Trump. Oddly, one of the accounts had Trump suggesting he would not get the big crowds if it failed -- as a selling point. In fact, it is a terrible selling point because if they see it likely to fail .. agree that Trump fails with it .. they certainly will not fear him.

[gratuitous]

7. Are you Republican voters just going to sit there and take that?

Your leaders solemnly promised that if you got your lazy, worthless asses out of the mobile home and pulled the lever for them on election day, they would 100% pinky-swear, cross-my-heart-and-hope-to-die repeal Obamacare. Now it looks like they can't or won't do it. How does that work for you? Are you all right with it?

Or do you need someone on the electric teevee machine to come out and tell you how you're supposed to feel that President Trump didn't do this on Day One?

[Snarkoleptic]

9. Somewhat surprising to see only on KY rep on that list.

I wonder if there's misconception about Kynect=ACA=Obamacare.

[n2doc]

34. I am sure, given his history, he is voting no because it isn't punitive enough

Desjarlais is a piece of shit. As Deplorable as they come.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/scott-desjarlais-reelection-110028

[redstateblues]

39. My daughter is in his district. He is the lowest of the low. She has called his office and urged him

to vote against the bill. She is a hard core Dem. His district is one of the poorest in the state but also one of the most racist. Confederate flags everywhere.

[MelissaB]

11. Awesome!

[FakeNoose]

12. Guess they got the message

[mopinko]

13. they will now be the belles of the ball.

i have been waiting for some thugs to play holdout so they can collect some bribes.
still surprised that rand paul isnt wearing that hat.

[wryter2000]

14. Thank heaven

I doubt it would have survived the Senate, in any case.

How many of these creeps oppose it because it isn't mean enough?

[dubyadiprecession]

15. Only 26?

I expect that number will only climb.

[ismnotwasm]

16. Gee, and after that threat?

My oh my

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. That Yoho guy is a total hack. I would be flummoxed if he votes against Chump Care.

[sheshe2]

19. Good to hear.

[KewlKat]

20. Sounds like the Con did a good job negotiating this morning eh? Wonder if he lost a few more after

his talk?

[CousinIT]

21. KEEP calling your reps (or call if you haven't). House Vote is Thursday

Plenty of time for Lyin Ryan and SHitler to twist arms. Reps need to hear from constituents ASAP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028825137

[Va Lefty]

22. They won't lose the vote..best case scenario they pull the bill

Ryan won't let it come up for a vote unless he's sure he's got the votes to pass

[Hamlette]

24. Does anyone know if these are from the far right Freedom Caucus

and how many of them are "moderate republicans"

Trump will get them in line and I too believe it will pass.

The only question is can/will the senate stand up to Trump Ryan?

[OldHippieChick]

25. I see 4 NC votes there. Please contact all your friends in NC.

I live here, but my rep is Dem, so I'm trying to find out where these 4 reside. There may be safety in numbers for them and we need constituents to call them and ask them to hang tight.

[pegisue74]

26. I got to voice my opinion today

Im new at this thread thing but today is a good day. I got to voice my opinion on Donald Trump and his policies.I was asked how I felt about him. I told the nice lady who was wide eyed and swore to me she didnt vote for him that he was dangerous and what he is doing is corrupt and he needs to go. Its apparent that these people do not research these things, she said hes going to help us,I asked what with? she couldnt even tell me! She had no idea the ACA was really Obama care. We need some Democrats in Ky to start educating these people!! Please I implore you! Help the residents in Ky ! Educate Please! I did a small part today and am proud to say I voted for Obama twice and Hillary.

[panader0]

31. Welcome to DU!

[Marthe48]

32. Welcome to DU!

[JudyM]

38. Welcome to DU, pegisue, glad to have vocal challengers like you with us!

[Ilsa]

40. Excellent Job! Welcome to DU! nt

[KittyWampus]

44. Welcome Pegisue, are you from KY? Your Governor was on tv last night explaining Medicaid expansion

helped people of his state.

It would be great if we could turn Kentucky purple.

[gopiscrap]

51. Welcome to DU

[calimary]

58. Welcome to DU pegisue74!

EXCELLENT work!

It's apparent these people not only don't research these things, but they evidently also watch TV and listen to radio that merely reinforces the talking points. There's seldom any explanation or attempt to dig deeper - and if there is, whatever it is - seems to be largely false.

We can't rely on people reading the NYTimes or Washington Post or Newsweek or other reputable readables. We can't rely on people listening to straight-news stations (of which there are precious few anymore) when they could listen to or watch Infowars. Or limbaugh and clones. Or watch Pox Noise to get their information.

All the more reason to have at least pockets of an educated citizenry - like the folks in communities like these - who can go out and rebut. Who can go out and debunk. Who can go out and present a side or a set of facts that maybe these limited-thinking or propagandized people have never had the chance to hear. It's up to us. It's up to us to be information brokers and curators, too. We HAVE TO be there to talk this shit down. And explain to some of these suckers (they've certainly been played for suckers) that the Affordable Care Act they love and which they've SEEN with their own eyes to have helped them - IS INDEED the "dreaded" "Obamacare."

I'm still amazed at how many people still don't realize this. Shows you how well the propaganda and the quick-hit bumpersticker politics and "elevator pitches" and sloganeering has worked. All the more reason why WE have to get out there and debunk. At every possible opportunity. Sometimes WE are the only education they'll have, and the only reality they'll discover.

[yallerdawg]

28. Losing bigly!

Everyone likes ranting incomprehensible threats from senile old bastards!

Should have read your ghost writer's book, asshole!

[panader0]

29. It seems to me that the revelations by Comey would have an adverse

effect on the R's vote. Do they want to tie themselves to a guy who may
be ousted?

[Saboburns]

30. We shall see come Thursday

Never, EVER, discount Republicans when it comes to ratfucking Americans.

I am hopeful. But sceptical.

Of course I thought a clown like Donald could never actually be President.

We shall see.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. sounds good - but sure they can brow beat 5 people to bloody nubs - sure Trump's

coming up with some kind of blackmail as we speak

[NCTraveler]

36. Five Republicans are about to get a huge bonus of some kind. nt.

[OliverQ]

37. Is this including people who changed their view after Trump threats?

[ffr]

42. Keep the pressure on other R reps and watch them crumble

No sense if voting Yay for a bill that's going to fail and risk losing you district.

[SJMULE]

45. just called my GOP Congress Critter ( NJ)

at his DC office ( he's not on the list) and urged him to vote no.

[calimary]

52. Welcome to DU, SJMULE!

GOOD WORK!!! Yes, I'm SHOUTING!!!

Excellent job! Did they ask for your zip code?

[SJMULE]

54. zipcode

Thank you.
I live in the town where his office is, when I mentioned that they didn't ask anything else to prove who I was.

[calimary]

64. Got it.

They do check. If you've got an aging parent, or a kid away in school, or siblings and/or other relatives, or close friends in the district in question, seems to me you have a "once-removed right" to call in, there, too. I pointed that out at a HUDDLE I attended after the LA Women's March.

One woman I met there said her dad lived in a different district.
"You go visit him, don't you?"
"Yes I do. Of course!"
"When you go visit him, you probably stay with him, right? Or in a nearby motel maybe?"
"Yeah, with him."
"Well, seems to me, because of him, YOU HAVE A PERSONAL INTEREST in that district and what goes on there. When you're there visiting him, seems to me you DEFINITELY do."

And that entitles YOU to call in to whoever represents that district, too. If you have a personal interest there, you have a business there or you work for a business that has offices there, seems to me YOU ARE AFFECTED BY WHAT GOES ON THERE. And you have a RIGHT to weigh in.

So know their zip codes, too. For example, if you call in to your dad's Congressmember, give the staffer for that Congressmember your dad's zip code. And so forth.

[LuckyLib]

66. These Congress folks vote on a issues that affect the lives of ALL of us.

We should not have to play zipcode waltz to have our voices heard. It makes my blood boil.

[calimary]

68. Yeah, I hear ya. It shouldn't be that way.

But since they play such ridiculous games, seems to me we have to outplay them, and out-game them.

[Sunlei]

46. I don't trust Republicans to vote for Americans best interests.

[Idoru]

53. But they aren't

This is about their fears for 2018. It's finally gotten through to them that they could pay for this by losing their seats.

[Sunlei]

65. No, at this point Republicans will make enough vote yes off the list of 26 Rs-push through media.

The 26 republicans who say 'no' today on that list IMO aren't telling the truth. I don't trust Republicans, they're not honest with 'the people'.

In 2018 if it matters for their election 20 of them could point to that list and tell voters, 'I was against it' The other six on that list will vote yes once the actual vote is close to happening.

Its a slimy tactic Republicans use, that works for them many times.

[gopiscrap]

50. Let it be so!!!

[DownriverDem]

55. So much hidden hate

Those repubs have their reasons, which aren't mine. However if it fails that's all that matters. So much hate is hidden in that bill. Seniors on Medicaid in nursing homes would lose big too. Once they have spent down their money, they go on Medicaid. We aren't hearing how the cuts will hurt them.

[get the red out]

57. Agree

Some of them will vote against it because it isn't enough of an instant cyanide pill for the poor to suit them. Rand Paul comes to mind. But it must not pass, for the good of the people of this country.

[lpbk2713]

61. I'm glad they can't vote anonymously.

They all hope to be reelected.

[jeanmarc]

62. Just more reason to impeach

The GOP have enough already on Trump to impeach. But if they can't even push through a single bill and he's not out there selling it well, just get rid of him.

He's too busy complaining about executive orders. Joke president.

[AgadorSparticus]

67. Yes!!!!!!!!