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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:18 PM Mar 2017

Pence is lying: Top Democrat sent letter to Mike Pence in November warning of Michael Flynn's Turkey

Top Democrat sent letter to Mike Pence in November warning of Michael Flynn's Turkey lobbying

President Donald Trump was not aware that his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was being paid to lobby for Turkish interests in the months before the US election, the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, said Thursday.

"I don't believe that was known," Spicer said when asked whether Trump knew about Flynn's work before he appointed Flynn to his Cabinet.

In an interview with Fox News on Thursday night, Vice President Mike Pence said he was not aware either and that he only first heard about it as reports surfaced Thursday that Flynn had registered as a foreign agent with the Justice Department earlier this week.

Link: http://www.businessinsider.com/elijah-cummings-letter-to-mike-pence-about-flynn-turkey-lobbying-2017-3
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Pence is lying: Top Democrat sent letter to Mike Pence in November warning of Michael Flynn's Turkey (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2017 OP
Pence is a seasoned and practiced liar dalton99a Mar 2017 #1
yes he is-- he's just less of an obvious conman than tRump Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #45
Shows Pence is all in on Russia flamingdem Mar 2017 #2
I wish I knew the answer to this because I wonder if removing Trump from office MelissaB Mar 2017 #9
I think you're right...Trump is only the tip of the iceberg! Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #32
Think of the titanic.....it was supposed to be unsinkable, but a tear larger than thought took place KewlKat Mar 2017 #37
It's an interesting trajectory that would give him. calimary Mar 2017 #18
And why not? Zoonart Mar 2017 #3
Of course he's lying. They're all lying. All the time. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #4
Didn't everyone on DU know that Flynn was working DURHAM D Mar 2017 #5
At least he would know that his lies don't fly around here. MelissaB Mar 2017 #8
I sure did!!! LeftInTX Mar 2017 #10
It was in the news a few places, but no one was howling Alice11111 Mar 2017 #24
He wrote that bizarre Op-Ed LeftInTX Mar 2017 #26
That was a flashing light Alice11111 Mar 2017 #34
The letter was from Elijah Cummings, not someone important like the Club for Growth gratuitous Mar 2017 #6
Yes, they ignore Democrats. LeftInTX Mar 2017 #11
And just how dastardly is Rep. Cummings? gratuitous Mar 2017 #12
Without a receipt for the letter signed by Pence himself, they'll claim he never saw it bigbrother05 Mar 2017 #14
Elijah has been the FIRST to call out many things Alice11111 Mar 2017 #25
recall how he made comey eat his words when chafetz (sp?) had him testify? Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #39
Thanks for links and reminders Alice11111 Mar 2017 #40
Plus, Cummings is Black NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #29
Pence likes his mail to lead with "Pay to the Order of" gratuitous Mar 2017 #31
How much bullshit can the country take? I am tired of it. Just admit you knew and did not care Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #7
Being a serial liar is standard operating procedure for the Trump administration. Initech Mar 2017 #13
They &he are making a production about how clean he is Alice11111 Mar 2017 #27
I started similar thread but here's this neohippie Mar 2017 #15
K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #16
Let's see. If Trump AND Pence go down, who's third in line of succession...? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #17
Yep. Don't think his camp hasn't been imagining possibilities exactly like these. calimary Mar 2017 #20
I think about that. At least Pence is dumber& not as aggressive Alice11111 Mar 2017 #30
Yes they all are rockfordfile Mar 2017 #19
ENTIRE administration lies for a living AND is getting paid for it benld74 Mar 2017 #21
It's not a lie aeromanKC Mar 2017 #22
That sums up the Repub Code of Honor Alice11111 Mar 2017 #33
Republicans go on the offensive when they know they have a bad hand. delisen Mar 2017 #23
It is important to face the truth, & then we can go forward Alice11111 Mar 2017 #35
I agree their is "Power in Righteousness!" We could use Alice11111 Mar 2017 #36
I know. Hes just trying to cover his own butt. caroldansen Mar 2017 #28
Pence is just as dirty and illegal as chump. kimbutgar Mar 2017 #38
Pence is the worst kind of scum. Self righteous twit. nt oasis Mar 2017 #41
The Pence of Darkness Achilleaze Mar 2017 #42
Yes! Beware. MelissaB Mar 2017 #43
so, which reporter will ask him why he said 'i just found out about this' ??????? spanone Mar 2017 #44
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
45. yes he is-- he's just less of an obvious conman than tRump
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 10:39 AM
Mar 2017

for some reason, Pence actually creeps me out more than tRump

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. Shows Pence is all in on Russia
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:23 PM
Mar 2017

and knows he's the backup to keep the ball rolling once Trump is removed.

Not much will change in other words, that was probably the deal though I have to wonder about his relationship to Bannon.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
9. I wish I knew the answer to this because I wonder if removing Trump from office
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:42 PM
Mar 2017

will just start to scratch the surface.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
37. Think of the titanic.....it was supposed to be unsinkable, but a tear larger than thought took place
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:05 PM
Mar 2017

filling the compartments over the wall and down she went. Flynn is the first compartment filling. There will be others and then down they all go!

calimary

(81,367 posts)
18. It's an interesting trajectory that would give him.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:07 PM
Mar 2017

Failed governor of Indiana - rises out of his own ashes to be VP for a so-called "pResident" who winds up being so disruptive and completely fucked up that he's removed from office... What a comeback that'd be! What a movie-of-the-week it'd be! WOW!

I bet he's there standing in front of the bathroom mirror most early mornings, imagining himself taking THAT Oath of Office. Maybe even rehearsing it. And fantasizing about which matinee idol would be cast to play him in the movies.

Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
3. And why not?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:23 PM
Mar 2017

There seems to be no end of lying from this administration and no penalty for their perfidy.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,433 posts)
4. Of course he's lying. They're all lying. All the time.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:32 PM
Mar 2017

Pointing it out is nonetheless a necessity until they're gone.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
5. Didn't everyone on DU know that Flynn was working
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:33 PM
Mar 2017

for Turkey back in October/November?

Maybe Pence should read DU in order to know what is going on in the world.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
24. It was in the news a few places, but no one was howling
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:16 PM
Mar 2017

It seems to take months before the stories really catch fire
Some of the stories from three or four months ago ate just catching fire. Better late than never.

LeftInTX

(25,439 posts)
26. He wrote that bizarre Op-Ed
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:27 PM
Mar 2017

Supporting Erdogan and calling for deportation of Fethullah Gulen. Pretty sick stuff.
With a few clicks of a mouse I found out about his lobbying for the Turkish govt.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. The letter was from Elijah Cummings, not someone important like the Club for Growth
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:36 PM
Mar 2017

As soon as Rep. Cummings starts giving Pence thousands in campaign contributions, Mike will be happy to read his letters.

LeftInTX

(25,439 posts)
11. Yes, they ignore Democrats.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:29 PM
Mar 2017

Pence propbably threw the letter away. Same as when I address my concerns with Ted Cruz

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. And just how dastardly is Rep. Cummings?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:38 PM
Mar 2017

He kept a copy of the letter he sent to Pence, just so he could embarrass the Vice President later!

At least, that's the way I expect to hear it from Fox and hate radio any minute now.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
14. Without a receipt for the letter signed by Pence himself, they'll claim he never saw it
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

They'll rat out an admin assistant for screening his mail.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
25. Elijah has been the FIRST to call out many things
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:20 PM
Mar 2017

Thank you for your courage, Rep Cummings.
It's easy to jump on the bandwagon, but it is hard to stand alone.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
40. Thanks for links and reminders
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mar 2017

Wow, Elijah was calling them out way back then, and he still is. In many ways, he's an unsung hero. Wow, what they did to her 4 peanuts compared to what is happening now. Well, there is no comparison.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. Pence likes his mail to lead with "Pay to the Order of"
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:40 PM
Mar 2017

Maybe next time Rep. Cummings should tuck a dollar into the letter.

Freethinker65

(10,028 posts)
7. How much bullshit can the country take? I am tired of it. Just admit you knew and did not care
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 12:39 PM
Mar 2017

Say you do not fu$king care what people think. Tell the truth that in order to "save" this country you feel you must destroy it. You will still have a 35% approval rating and control of congress. You have no image to protect. Go all in.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
13. Being a serial liar is standard operating procedure for the Trump administration.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 01:54 PM
Mar 2017

No surprise Pence is among that crowd.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
27. They &he are making a production about how clean he is
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

I think, that's in case they need 25th Amend or DT otherwise goes.
He can't be that clueless, or they just keep him as a figure head.
The whole Flynn Russia thing and Pence not knowing was just for show for several reasons.
Still, as someone else said, at least Pence won't blow us up if he has a hissy fit over Schwarzenegger. .

calimary

(81,367 posts)
20. Yep. Don't think his camp hasn't been imagining possibilities exactly like these.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:11 PM
Mar 2017

He didn't make it as Romney's VP. How 'bout THIS to - um - "trump" everything and go all the way to the top?

I'll bet, deep down, Paul Ryan has definitely imagined such a turn of events. Fantasized about it, too. Just as I suspect Pence has done. Deep down. Alone, when they're sure nobody's watching and nobody around them can read minds.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
30. I think about that. At least Pence is dumber& not as aggressive
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:38 PM
Mar 2017

Pence is less likely to be elected in 4 years. Turtleman is even worse. They are all so bottom of the barrel. How did this happen?
The foreign service guy who has served since Reagan said there is more cause for concern for the US now than since the 30s. That means he is More concerned now than WWII and September 11th.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
23. Republicans go on the offensive when they know they have a bad hand.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:37 PM
Mar 2017

Pence and Ryan are not inevitable.

Democratic are too quick to project into the future and talk about how nothing will work because if "this happens they will just do that."

or "we're doomed" , "we're screwed"

If people truly believe that Hillary Clinton won the election---why settle for anything less than President Clinton and VP Kaine?

There are avenues--it is not our task to determine in detail how justice might be achieved. It is our duty to demand that justice be done

Let's not be so quick to defeat ourselves or to let others convince us that we are defeated.

I don't know how we got from "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" to "We're doomed." but its time to stop underestimating the power of righteousness.

I consider this election to be equivalent of the Confederate attack one Fort Sumpter.

It is fine to reach out to those who have not stood with us but the War has already begun.






Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
36. I agree their is "Power in Righteousness!" We could use
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:01 PM
Mar 2017

more of that. Like when Ted Kennedy immediately and aggressively called out Bork, rather than waiting and waiting, hemming and hawing, to the point it wasn't effective.
The Lion that Roared.
We have Elijah Cummings, Cory, Maxine, Bernie, E Warren and a lot of others.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
42. The Pence of Darkness
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 10:14 AM
Mar 2017

BEWARE any person who puts on a yuuge show about what a special "christian" they are, but who is systematically lying. BEWARE.



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