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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:12 PM Feb 2017

Is "open up the party to working people" really code for

"open up the party to white working people?"

Because black and brown working people, men and women, are the bulwark of the Democratic party.

And the new DNC chair is a Latino who most recently was the Secretary of Labor. No one, not even a Senator from a 95% white, rural state, needs to tell that Democratic Secretary of LABOR how to stand up for labor.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/why-tom-perez-strong-competitor-against-keith-ellison-democratic-party

After taking charge of the Labor Department in 2013, Perez fired up that agency. As Politico noted,

It was one of the federal government's sleepier outposts for most of the dozen years that preceded Perez's arrival just over one year ago. But Labor has been newly energized under Perez.

"Enforcement activity is up," Alfred Robinson Jr., who was an acting wage and hour administrator for the Labor Department during the George W. Bush administration, noted earlier this month in a blog post. The department has also raised its public profile on issues like minimum wage and paid medical leave and lavished favorable attention on companies that give employees what Perez calls "voice."


At the Labor Department, Perez was in charge of an organization with 17,000 employees, a multibillion-dollar budget, and offices throughout the nation. And he pocketed a number of policy wins. He expanded the overtime rule for millions of workers. He helped resolve the Verizon strike and achieved protections for Verizon's retail workers. On his watch in 2016, the department collected $266 million in back pay owed to workers. He pushed for expanded paid sick leave. The department issued a new rule to protect workers in construction and manufacturing from exposure to dangerous levels of silica dust, which can cause disease and cancer. It raised the minimum wage and and provided extended overtime protections for 2 million home health care workers. The department issued an important conflict-of-interest rule forcing retirement advisers to place clients' interests ahead of their own, an Elizabeth Warren-like measure that could save Americans billions of dollars per year.

Perez has had an impressive run at Labor, overseeing a big bureaucracy and achieving results. He has put his values into practice. Ellison has done similar as a member of Congress, mounting grassroots campaigns, raising money for Democrats across the country, and pushing pro-consumer financial reform legislation as a member of the House financial services committee. If DNCers want to send a welcoming signal to aggrieved (rightly or wrongly) Bernie-ites when they vote on February 24—and avoid possible further acrimony between Party HQ and progressive activists—Ellison is the obvious choice. But if there is more to the vote than that—and this race is removed from the never-ending conflict between the party and its progressive base—Perez is a strong contender. He is a solid progressive with a record of getting stuff done. His prospects will be shaped by whether party officials (they are the only ones who have a vote) consider this contest an act of atonement and reconciliation or a hiring decision.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-is-tom-perez-dnc-chairman/

Perez, 55, left the Obama administration last month after serving as labor secretary since July 2013. In that job, he helped push for new overtime rules to ensure workers get overtime pay, extended overtime protections for home care workers and extended minimum wage protections.

He also helped establish worker safety rules, and under his leadership the department provided paid sick leave and ensured employment protections for federal contractor employees, according to his biography on the department’s website.
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Is "open up the party to working people" really code for (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2017 OP
Or code for cardcheck. dogman Feb 2017 #1
That accusation by is hsrmful to the party. boston bean Feb 2017 #2
seriously! That accusation pisses me off. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #9
Yeah- this framing is absolute shit. bettyellen Feb 2017 #17
Change "white" to "all" and you're good to go! democratisphere Feb 2017 #3
It is already opened up to all working people. So they must mean pnwmom Feb 2017 #5
white working class that voted trump support muslim ban and deportations JI7 Feb 2017 #4
Since when has the party not been open to white working class people? n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #6
Good question. nt pnwmom Feb 2017 #8
Looks like our "Indivisible" thing already has some cracks in it. jalan48 Feb 2017 #7
well, Sanders isn't a Dem. Real Dems are fairly unified against Trump. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #10
And the millions of Dems that like Bernie Sanders? jalan48 Feb 2017 #14
Need to look hard at what they're saying. When Sanders says we're not open to the "working class" Hekate Feb 2017 #16
What he's talking about is obvious. jalan48 Feb 2017 #21
They need to concern themselves with our civil rights too- if they can't see how we bettyellen Feb 2017 #20
If that's the case then we need a strategy that will help get Democrats elected. jalan48 Feb 2017 #23
The question is why would anyone write off Dems as not being "working people" - this is a RW meme... bettyellen Feb 2017 #24
If this is true we should control the government. jalan48 Feb 2017 #28
Working women and POC are the fucking backbone of the party... bettyellen Feb 2017 #37
Who said they aren't important? jalan48 Feb 2017 #39
Asinine "message." pat_k Feb 2017 #11
It was the message coming from an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats. pnwmom Feb 2017 #13
Still asinine. pat_k Feb 2017 #19
Traditionally there has always been only ONE party open to the working class. Think Civil Rights. Rex Feb 2017 #12
How about fewer wall-street bankers and their ilk? n/t X_Digger Feb 2017 #15
How many of those do you think the Secretary of LABOR led in his department? pnwmom Feb 2017 #26
So the whole of the DNC is coming from labor, and there are no bankers? X_Digger Feb 2017 #30
The new head of the DNC is the former Secretary of Labor pnwmom Feb 2017 #32
So wall street won't be a major player in the DNC? X_Digger Feb 2017 #40
When has the Party ... NanceGreggs Feb 2017 #18
No. It's clear-speak for WORKING PEOPLE, SMC22307 Feb 2017 #22
the party is "open" to working people, period Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #25
Democrats fully control a measly six statehouses (an historic low)... SMC22307 Feb 2017 #31
Why can't Bernie focus on solutions instead of slamming the former Secretary of Labor pnwmom Feb 2017 #33
LOL @ "slamming." SMC22307 Feb 2017 #34
The ones who are sowing division are those pretending that the Secretary of LABOR pnwmom Feb 2017 #27
No one is doing that. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2017 #35
EVERYONE who thinks that it's okay to deliver a mini-lecture to Tom Perez pnwmom Feb 2017 #36
Let's break this down, shall we? SMC22307 Feb 2017 #38
It's just another damned Trump-GOP lie vlyons Feb 2017 #29
No Nevernose Feb 2017 #41
Are you able to post anything that isn't an attack on Sanders? Barack_America Feb 2017 #42
No. n/t QC Feb 2017 #43
Step 1: throw shade at Bernie and his supporters killbotfactory Feb 2017 #44

dogman

(6,073 posts)
1. Or code for cardcheck.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:18 PM
Feb 2017

That was a time the faithful were not rewarded, and fairly recently. Unions have enough trouble collecting money from their members for the political agenda. Dropping the ball when we had the power was a mistake IMO.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
2. That accusation by is hsrmful to the party.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:19 PM
Feb 2017

Right, Democrats aren't for working people??? Have the people saying this taken a look at the republican party? They seem more pissed at dems than they do right wingers. They have bern played snd played well.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
4. white working class that voted trump support muslim ban and deportations
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:22 PM
Feb 2017

That's how democrats can win their votes.

And even better if we support stop and frisk .

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
16. Need to look hard at what they're saying. When Sanders says we're not open to the "working class"
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:48 PM
Feb 2017

...who exactly is he talking about? Because women, blacks, Hispanics -- workers all -- voted for Hillary. And Hillary got 3,000,000 more votes than "populist" Trump.

Benedict Donald sure captured the racist vote. Now how do we go about capturing the racist vote? Just asking.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
21. What he's talking about is obvious.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:58 PM
Feb 2017

His belief that the Party is influenced too much by big money and not enough by the needs of working class people. By the way, not only did Clinton lose, Democrats as a whole got their asses kicked all over the country. Time to get off of the divisive racist meme and unite.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. They need to concern themselves with our civil rights too- if they can't see how we
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:55 PM
Feb 2017

Suffer doubly at the hands of the GOP and be true allies then they're kidding hemselves about being progressive, liberal or Dems. If they're going to vote for their wallet before my freedom they're not.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
23. If that's the case then we need a strategy that will help get Democrats elected.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:07 PM
Feb 2017

The one we've been using doesn't work if 2016 is any indication. Reaching out to "working people" as a whole seems as good as any at this point.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
24. The question is why would anyone write off Dems as not being "working people" - this is a RW meme...
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:11 PM
Feb 2017

And it's insulting and naive to say so. And inaccurate.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
28. If this is true we should control the government.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:18 PM
Feb 2017

We don't because we, as working people, are not "Indivisible". We have to see what we have in common and promote one another, not tear one another down. Bernie is speaking to working people as a group, all of us, not just one color or gender.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
37. Working women and POC are the fucking backbone of the party...
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:38 PM
Feb 2017

Pretending they don't exist or aren't important is bizarre.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
39. Who said they aren't important?
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:58 PM
Feb 2017

What we're talking about is an "Indivisible" movement for the next election-right? Why do you insist on only making it about women and POC? The message should be about all working people, as Bernie is pointing out.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
11. Asinine "message."
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:29 PM
Feb 2017

All it does is say the dem party is "closed to working people." The only time you need to "open up" to something is when you are "closed."

That message is going to be about as effective as Republicans "opening" their party to African Americans.

If this is the messaging coming from Dem leaders, we are in serious trouble.

Pelosi made a blunder too when she said DT had 'has nothing to show' for 1st month in office except 'fear.'

He did a lot more than sow fear and bigotry. He shit canned important protections. Protections that help keep our water and wildlife safe from poisons; protections that preserve civil rights in public institutions; protections that protect consumers from predatory private sector actions; protections that preserve open government. He did it all by executive order. No help from Congress needed. (And of course right-wingnuts have been busy bees over on the hill too.)

Not to mention his appointment of "leaders" to executive agencies who are hell bent rendering their respective agencies incapable of carrying out critical public sector functions.

What he has done is FAR WORSE than "nothing."

If DT had accomplished "nothing" i'd be delighted.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. It was the message coming from an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:35 PM
Feb 2017

I haven't ever heard a Democratic leader with that message.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
19. Still asinine.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:52 PM
Feb 2017

Bernie is often great. Sometimes he's an ass.

Some leaders are asinine more than great. For some it's the other way around. Nobody is always great. Nobody is always an ass. Even a right-wingnut like Ron Paul gets the occasional thing right (like his call for the impeachment of Bush).

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Traditionally there has always been only ONE party open to the working class. Think Civil Rights.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:34 PM
Feb 2017

Despite what the GOP says and does, they've never been open to the working class and always supported the plutocracy in charge of our government, churches and media. It is why they get funded more by those groups of ultra wealthy donors.

The Left side has always been about Labor. The Right side has always been about Capital. If we keep it that way and get our message out clearly, we will win back seats.

I refuse to listen to anyone about Perez until I see him in action, I think he will do great and shows every bit as much for the Labor side of policy as we need someone to represent us to be. That is the Left side we need to be, on our side leading the way. Perez will lead the way.

People that don't want to give him a chance, are not objective enough to give him one.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
26. How many of those do you think the Secretary of LABOR led in his department?
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:14 PM
Feb 2017

How many wall street bankers was Tom Perez involved with when he was working in the civil rights division?

Get real.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. The new head of the DNC is the former Secretary of Labor
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:51 PM
Feb 2017

and he was chosen by a vote of the DNC. They have chosen as their leader a strong progressive who has no history of aligning with wall street against labor.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
40. So wall street won't be a major player in the DNC?
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:34 PM
Feb 2017

No Goldman Sachs board members setting policy? No Chase / HSBC / PWC board members involved?

Let me make a note of your answer so that I can come back to it in a year and we'll compare notes. Ya?

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
18. When has the Party ...
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:51 PM
Feb 2017

... ever been "closed" to working people?

I joined the Dem Party eons ago. I was a working person then, and always have been. If there was ever a time when the Party was "closed" to people like me, I am unaware of it.

Maybe the person promoting that idea should explain exactly when and how the Party was "closed" to anyone, therefore necessitating "opening up the Party" to them now.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
22. No. It's clear-speak for WORKING PEOPLE,
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:05 PM
Feb 2017

not just those who can pay over six figures to have dinner with George and Amal Clooney.

My goodness, folks are really working overtime (pardon the pun) to sow division and convince us of just how really, really progressive (really! progressive!) Perez is.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
25. the party is "open" to working people, period
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:12 PM
Feb 2017

access is always a more tricky aspect of a party, but part of this is that running campaigns is really expensive and you need big donors.

Bottom line is working people have a far louder voice in the Dems than in the Repubs.

Sounds like you and Bernie are the ones sowing division.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
31. Democrats fully control a measly six statehouses (an historic low)...
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

and more and more voters are registering as Unaffiliated rather than with either major political party. Those numbers scream "problems," so why not focus on solutions rather than me and Bernie?

These are the folks Bernie is referring to. You and everyone on this board knows that.



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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
33. Why can't Bernie focus on solutions instead of slamming the former Secretary of Labor
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:55 PM
Feb 2017

with a condescending statement that implies Perez isn't on the side of workers?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
34. LOL @ "slamming."
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:20 PM
Feb 2017

His statement doesn't imply that all, it's how you're choosing to interpret it because you don't "like" Bernie. We get it, already. It was directed to Perez and the whole of the DNC -- the same DNC that has brought us record losses. We control a measly six states, an historic low. Why? Because many voters feel that the party has abandoned them.

Hey, here's an idea! Why not actually listen to Americans -- of all colors and collars -- and come up with solutions, rather than obsess over one Bernard Sanders?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
27. The ones who are sowing division are those pretending that the Secretary of LABOR
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:15 PM
Feb 2017

isn't strongly pro-labor, despite his long record on both labor and civil rights.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
36. EVERYONE who thinks that it's okay to deliver a mini-lecture to Tom Perez
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:22 PM
Feb 2017

on supporting workers is doing that.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
38. Let's break this down, shall we?
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:52 PM
Feb 2017

Bernie congratulated Tom and said he looks forward to working with him. YIKES! He pointed out Republican dominance at federal and state levels. GASP! He rightly pointed out that the "same-old, same-old" is not working and that we need to focus on the helping the 99% and stop sucking up to the 1%. Bring in young people, too. And fight for "social, racial, economic and environmental justice." THE BASTARD!

Yeah, "EVERYONE" will live.

The Democratic Party has fucked up -- SIX STATES. If people are going to get their panties in a wad over a statement by Bernie Sanders about wanting the DNC to do the right thing, then perhaps they're not cut out for politics.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
29. It's just another damned Trump-GOP lie
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:23 PM
Feb 2017

If the GOP really wanted to open up to working people, it would put some labor leaders on the RNC, raise the minimum wage, legislate equal pay for women, and fight states right-to-work laws. But we know this won't happen. So what this really means is fear-monger white blue-collar workers that scarey black and brown people are taking their jobs. So they'll put the black ones in prison and deport the brown ones.

I think Trump is very very frightened by the Perez-Ellison leadership. Nothing scarier than accomplished, competent, and smart black and brown people. And well he should be frightened. We're going to clean his clock.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
41. No
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:45 PM
Feb 2017

It's an appeal to the DNC to focus on the folks who donate $27 and not $27 million. Pretty simple.

Sanders didn't knock Perez, he stated his preference for the future of the Democratic Party. The new chair is, indeed, a minority. So was Sanders' preferred candidate, so the attempted accusation of bigotry is bullshit.

Trump did better with black & Latino Americans than did Romney or McCain, so we are clearly doing something wrong. Not willing to face up to that will just keep us losing elections.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
42. Are you able to post anything that isn't an attack on Sanders?
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

Or are you pretty much just a one topic poster?

Is it fun skating a TOS violation with every OP?

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