SCREEN GRAB of CNN's Epic Dewey-Defeats-Truman FAIL

[WilliamPitt]

https://twitter.com/dorseyshaw/status/218345509700644865/photo/1/large

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[GarroHorus]

1. DU rec. n/t

[johnfunk]

47. I'll see your Blitzer and raise you a FARCE Newsmodel!!

[Brigid]

61. If she thinks that the SCOTUS has struck down the mandate,

why doesn't she look happy?

[freshwest]

127. Do you know what those yellow signs said? It looked like a near riot out there.

[quispquake]

2. Awesome...

I was hoping someone had this...

I'm loving that the corporate media REALLY wasn't expecting this!!!

[NJCher]

85. it's more their usual schlocky reporting

Last edited Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)

An attorney friend just mentioned that the decision starts off with a point that would indicate the law is unconstitutional. This was just to get that argument out of the way, because it then went on to the point about it being a tax and therefore constitutional.

The point being, of course, that the reporters read only the first part and jumped to conclusions.

I didn't see the decision myself, so I don't know if it's true. Not sure where he got it--law forums or viewing the decision himself, but that's what he said.


Cher

Edited also to note that poster downthread provides more details on the length of the decision and the fact that it could be confusing.

[WI_DEM]

3. CNN is getting more like FAUX every day.

[RitchieRich]

37. "Clinton News Network" my arse

[PatrynXX]

45. that'll really help their already looooow ratings

bonk. Run it as bad as the Fox Biz network

[SusanaMontana41]

52. Exactly what I was thinking, WI_DEM. n/t

[annabanana]

79. They've been nothing but "Fox with it's pants on" for awhile now. . . .n/t

[lob1]

131. Yep! Wolfe has started showing his legs, lately.

Let's all tell him to stop.

[jimlup]

4. Can we make this the Picture of the moment! Skinner? Earl G?

[liberalhistorian]

11. Y'know, if I had the photoshop skills,

I would take that screen shot and juxtapose it with other such epic historic flubs, like "Dewey Defeats Truman", etc. Maybe someone with such skills could take that up??

[coalition_unwilling]

19. I have no idea how to PhotoShop, but you may be referring to this:

If so, please PhotoShop away (those who know what they're doing)

[Ian David]

27. Don't forget this...

[boxman15]

34. Always cracks me up.

How come our comedians are better with the truth than most of our news people?

[TalkingDog]

41. You don't have to be smart to read a scripted news story.

I would wager that most of the news stories the big anchors read aren't written or even researched in depth by them. That's what staff is for.

Their job is to be "eye candy".

Welcome to DU!

[senseandsensibility]

53. Wolf Blitzer? Eye candy?

Not only has he no talent or brains, he isn't even good looking.

[TalkingDog]

66. He doesn't float my boat either, but the Pubs think anything

with the words: Wolf and Blitzer has got to be kinky somehow

[Generic Brad]

95. He's more like "eye gristle"

[psychmommy]

98. lol

[senseandsensibility]

99. DUZY!

[daligirl519]

102. Heh. . .

Mistah Brad, he funny.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

118. Damn it!!

I'm soo stealin' that.

[MADem]

115. Who knows? Maybe the "Human Toilet Brush" look appeals to some folks....? nt

[WinkyDink]

134. Bizarre description of a bearded face.

[MADem]

136. Not all .... just his. nt

[Odin2005]

89. Wow, Wolf is an idiot!

[RitchieRich]

38. Send me a few choice links

I'll make ya something pretty

[TalkingDog]

54. Here you go.

Sorry for the rush job. If it paid, it would look much better.

[coalition_unwilling]

55. Shit, I wish I could pay you for this. It's GORGEOUS! Thanks - n/t

[Brigid]

60. Harry would love this.

And didn't he try to do something about health care reform while he was in office?

[NJCher]

87. that's hilarious

and pretty damn good for short notice.


Cher

[freshwest]

104. That's wonderful. A photoshop of Obama holding one is on geardaddy's thread:

Even Yahoo picked up the the "Dewey Defeats Truman" photoshop



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=872268

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/health-care-ruling-scotus-cnn-gaffe-fox-news-154347515.html

[Stardust]

119. That's a might big iPad!!!

[freshwest]

122. If they were that big, I'd try to get one. Must be an iObamapad!

[Stardust]

126. LOL

[Whisp]

72. something similar...

[IMG][/IMG]

[coalition_unwilling]

93. OMG, I'm starting to sense the beginnings of one of those

Neil Monroe-type threads, one that kept me in stitches of laughter for an entire weekend.

If it is to be, let it start here

[freshwest]

105. C'mon, it's gotta be true, it's on teevee!

[truebrit71]

5. Thanks for posting this...I am spreading it far and wide...

....Fugging idiots...

[Casandia]

6. Poor CNN - And they have the nerve to say they are

the Worldwide Leader in News.

[Jamaal510]

46. "The most trusted name in news".

[KurtNYC]

7. the "Worldwide Leader is News" might not have been right but

they were first damn it ! Isn't that what counts??

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

8. premature exultation

[Whisp]

74. LOL!

I think their source is Drudge, he got it wrong too.


hmmm, interesting

[gateley]

82. Excellent! nt

[malaise]

9. This is CNN, the Worldwide Leader in News

Fuggin' NOT!

[PM Martin]

10. CNN: "We are Fox News"!

[savalez]

51. LOL

[malaise]

112. Fox News lite

Damn that was fall down funny

[femmocrat]

12. Thank you!

Look at those flag-waving idiots. Hahahah

As if they would refuse to take advantage of the benefits of ACA -- yeah, sure they would.

[freshwest]

128. Okay, what did the yellow signs say? They were against it, then?

[southern_belle]

13. hehe n/t

[Botany]

14. We will have to leave it there

[freshwest]

129. Look at that face! Busted!

[shcrane71]

15. CNN: "The Conservative News Network". nt

[bupkus]

16. At CNN, fact falls victim to the race to be first. nt

[MissNostalgia]

17. so much to celebrate

TeaNN is done!

[lonestarnot]

18. Dee dee dee fuckwads.

[HillWilliam]

29. Props for the Mencia reference!! n/t

[The Wizard]

20. CNN is Pox News

in a cheap disguise. They have just claimed the dingleberries of news award.

[calimary]

111. No, but they sure would like to be.

Fuck 'em.

I never watch them anymore.

[jsmirman]

21. I laughed

out loud

[dascientist]

22. youtubez

[jsmirman]

24. Oh facepalm

take the time and read the whole thing. Idiots.

[rocktivity]

40. Download it quick

I don't think it will be up there long.




rocktivity

[berni_mccoy]

23. This one gets a bookmark.

[rocktivity]

25. This brings an entirely new dimension to the meaning of

out-"foxed"...


rocktivity

[Misskittycat]

26. I'm reluctant to give CNN a pass on this mistake, BUT....

As a lawyer, I just started reading the first several pages of the Court's opinion (that I posed in Latest Breaking News) and, frankly, the first few pages read as if the individual mandate had been struck down. It takes several pages to get to any glimpse that is an alternative theory on which it's upheld. A reporter skimming the decision could legitimately believe that the mandate had been struck down.

I was watching CNN and heard about it being struck down, then switched back to MSNBC, and heard it was upheld, and was thinking: "WTF?" I originally concluded that CNN blew it, big time, but this opinion is very, very confusing.

[Tsiyu]

108. Well, here's a case where you're right or you're wrong

no middle ground.

With the money CNN has, they can afford an attorney for each page of the document; at the least they should have legal staff working to accurately parse an important decision like this one.

You're being too generous with folks who call themselves "news leaders" but only because you're probably just a forgiving sort

[Ms. Toad]

123. As someone who drafted such opinions for a lesser court once upon a time -

court practice (or in some cases something more formal) dictates where the holding of the case goes for each court. Any semi-competent reporter who has read more than one Supreme Court opinion (and I certainly hope they didn't send a rookie) should be able to jump to the punchline, then work back to the reasoning.

[Misskittycat]

137. I read an explanation from CNN that suggested that the producer inside the courtroom

hadn't read or depended on the written opinion but was based his "jump-the-gun" action on listening to Justice Roberts reading the opinion. If one is merely listening to an opinion being read, it's easy to get it wrong.

However, I'll definitely concede that making a decision to broadcast the "result" based on only listening to the opinion was a big mistake, and one that any seasoned producer should have avoided.

[Ms. Toad]

138. It is a mistake that an experienced reporter

(the only kind they should have had in that position on that day) should not have made. It is fairly standard in legal opinions to walk through the arguments before stating the holding of the court. The first few lines were merely rejections (or affirmations) of what was argued. The CNN reporter (or producer) heard the argument was unconstitutional, and confused that accurate statement with the holding that would be made (the conclusion after stepping through all of the relevant arguments). There is no excuse for sending someone to the court who does not understand that basic principle, on that particular day.

[erpowers]

28. Need Better Training For Producers

CNN might need to train their producers better. As far as I know no CNN reporters were in the Supreme Court when the decision was read. It is possible that no reporters from any networks were in the court. However, it seems a producer from CNN was in the court, only listened to Chief Justice John Roberts first sentence and then reported that the mandate had been struck down without realizing that the court had said the mandate needed to be a tax.

This also shows the need to get a story right as opposed to being first to report the story. It is also possible that the producer for CNN felt pressure to allow CNN to be first to report the story and as a result did not take the time to make sure he was providing the right information.

Finally, CNN and all the other news channels should have waited 30 minutes to an hour to pour over the decision before reporting on the decision. Beside that, maybe the Supreme Court should have and should in the future allow their decision(s) to be broadcast live via audio on c-SPAN or all news channels.

[femmocrat]

30. Can't rec this enough!

This will live on and on.... FU CNN!

This will be in the Newseum, for sure.

[boxman15]

31. This perfectly sums up what's wrong with CNN and cable news as a whole

It's all about being first, not about being accurate.

[benld74]

32. CNN: We're 1st! We're 1st! We're 1,,What? Oh Crap,,

OK,
OK
HERE!

Breaking news
Supreme Court Upholds ACA

[SoCalDem]

33. we are series

[yardwork]

117. That's the best one I've seen.

[dawn frenzy adams]

130. SoCalDem (Original Post)

Absolutely hilarious!

[NYC Liberal]

35. SCREEN CAP from cnn.com:

[Overseas]

120. Nice!

[kirby]

36. To play devils advocate...

They did rule the the mandate was unconstitutional under the commerce clause. They were probably in such a hurry to make themselves relevant, CNN probably ran with that rather than wait an additional minute as the ruling made clear the mandate was constitutional if viewed as a tax and that is what the court was viewing it as.

[Ms. Toad]

124. That's called dicta -

and anyone practiced in reading legal documents (and if they didn't send someone of that caliber they deserved to fail) should know the difference.

[Pilotguy]

39. By the way...

FOX News also got it wrong and was initially reporting the Individual Mandate had been struck down.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cable-networks-fail-in-early-reporting-of-health-care-ruling_b135394

[NNN0LHI]

42. They were sure ready weren't they?

[JNelson6563]

43. lolz Pointing and laughing at those assholes.

Again.

[pansypoo53219]

44. FURST, WE WAS FURST!

BUTBUTBUT THEY HAD TO BE FURST!!!!

[moondust]

48. Some respect for Soledad O'Brien.

She was guest hosting for Anderson Cooper last night and had Sen. John Mica on to discuss the Fast and Furious witch hunt. She repeatedly cited the Fortune investigation and went round and round with him and his bullshit. She did good.

[laundry_queen]

62. I saw that

she needs to take AC's job.

[Brigid]

64. Reverend Al was even better.

Did you see him go round and round with Mica? It was most excellent.

[Whisp]

107. I've been impressed with her work for a while now

She used to do a daily/regular gig on CNN way back and was like the rest of the idiots there but she has grown a lot and does important work now.

Good for Soledad!

[hay rick]

49. I don't even know what station they're on.

Moved here (FL) at the end of December and I don't know and don't care what their channel numbers are. They are Izvestia to Fox's Pravda. Pitiful.

[nenagh]

50. Thank You William Pitt..

A piece of theater...

[Stuart G]

56. K and R..nt

[Third Doctor]

57. this

This is why I stopped watching CNN year ago. At first they seemed like a middle of the road channel but after a time all that I was hearing was corporate right wing talking points. Plus they were not covering democratic events.

[Richardo]

58. Will, here's your accompanying pic... :^D

[Mojorabbit]

64. That is awesome!!l! Well done! nt

[PatSeg]

67. Nice job!

You did that quickly. I'm impressed.

[Richardo]

70. Not mine, I hasten to add.

But SOMEONE worked quickly.

[PatSeg]

75. I guess that makes it even more impressive

Some people can do this stuff so fast. It would take me hours and it wouldn't look very good when I'm done.

[Brigid]

69. Yep, "Dewey Defeats Truman,"

updated just a little.

[TalkingDog]

78. oooo.... I like yours better.

Snappy!

[Odin2005]

92. + Infinity!

[Suji to Seoul]

59. Just like Fixed Noise, are we surprised????

[Stuart G]

63. CNN and FOX and Huffington Post made same mistake...here is link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/cnn-supreme-court-health-care-individual-mandate_n_1633950.html

[dipsydoodle]

109. Did Huffington then edit that page ?

They refer only to CNN and Fox. Huffington is waste of space re-reporting outfit anyway.

[fishwax]

68. bwahaha!

[Stuart G]

71. Another link at Taling Points Memo on how this happened:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/cnn-fox-news-supreme-court-coverage.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

[Magleetis]

73. Proof

That the corporate media is corrupt. Worthless lying fucking assholes.

[Stuart G]

76. and ....please don't forget "Stupid" nt

[90-percent]

133. ayup

OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE INFESTED WITH CORRUPT SOCIOPATHS

Nice icon, btw.

-90% jimmy

[liberal N proud]

77. Classic

[Stuart G]

80. Great discription of this goof...."classic"

It will go down with the Truman headline..

[MrsBrady]

81. what happened?

I'm on lunch break with no tv.

How in the *uck* did they get it wrong?

[BumRushDaShow]

84. A bunch of media jumped the gun

and didn't bother to wait for the full ruling to be read. The SCOTUS said the mandate would be a "tax" vs using the Commerce Clause.

[Blue Owl]

83. The premature jizz-off with FOX

LOL

[DirkGently]

86. Excellent.

[Odin2005]

88. That is worthy of FAILblog.

[Whisp]

90. For Wolf and John everyday is a no-brainer

[IMG][/IMG]

[LovingA2andMI]

94. THIS ^^^^^^

LOL!!! Enough said!

When is America going to stop listening to these clowns?

[heaven05]

91. cnn

this is cnn, the largest worldwide liar in news. faux news is the runner up.

[Historic NY]

96. CNN = CLOWN NEWS NETWORK

[JDPriestly]

97. And that passes for journalism in our country?

Here is how I approached reading court decisions back in the day.

When I read a court decision, I read the last paragraph in each section first. I didn't start at the beginning. I read those last paragraphs and if I didn't know what the holding was based on that, I went back to the earlier paragraphs. In fact, although tedious, I knew that I had to read every word of a decision carefully to understand it. Takes time. There are no quick fixes for this.

And when I read a decision for which there were headnotes, I had to be very careful. The headnotes are pretty accurate, but they are mostly a guide to reading the decision. Headnotes do not have the force of law.

[SemperEadem]

100. the "worldwide leader in news".... FAIL!

more like "worldwide leader in STUPID"

[mlevans]

101. "Worldwide Leader in News," eh?

(giggles)

[DinahMoeHum]

103. I wish Esquire magazine still did their "Dubious Achievements Awards"

. . .because that screen grab would be a winner for sure.

[davidwparker]

106. "This is CNN, the Worldwide Leader in News" - LOL

[SickOfTheOnePct]

110. Based on the first part of the published opinion, it's not a fail

They just didn't read far enough:

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS concluded in Part III–A that the individual mandate is not a valid exercise of Congress’s power under the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause. Pp. 16

[Doctor_J]

113. Fox probably was thinking back to November 2000

and thought if they said it was struck down it would be true, just like the Bush v. Gore selection

[chknltl]

114. cnn thinks it is worldwide leader in news.

My brother thinks he is God too.

[JitterbugPerfume]

116. whoops

[DeeJay]

121. More like, "Worldwide MISleader in News" n/t

[Rhiannon12866]

125. K&R! This is CNN, the Worldwide Leader in News...

Not today...

[Scurrilous]

132. K & R

[sarge43]

135. Good thing CNN wasn't around on Dec 7, 1941

The Germans have bombed Pearl Harbor!