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Tue Jun 26, 2012, 08:14 PM

When Is Enough, Enough America? - Comic That Explains Just How Screwed America Is...

TUE JUN 26, 2012 AT 01:44 PM PDT
The One Comic That Explains Just How Screwed America Is
byOccupy Posters

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/26/1103368/-The-One-Comic-That-Explains-Just-How-Screwed-America-Is

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kpete Jun 2012 OP
Mnemosyne Jun 2012 #1
Hotler Jun 2012 #2
October Jun 2012 #25
kimbutgar Jun 2012 #39
Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #3
woo me with science Jun 2012 #4
chervilant Jun 2012 #8
lapislzi Jun 2012 #22
chervilant Jun 2012 #52
SunSeeker Jun 2012 #5
Raster Jun 2012 #7
Bette Noir Jun 2012 #14
abelenkpe Jun 2012 #29
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #15
Raster Jun 2012 #20
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #26
jtuck004 Jun 2012 #50
SomethingFishy Jun 2012 #21
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #33
abelenkpe Jun 2012 #32
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #34
kimbutgar Jun 2012 #40
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #42
whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #46
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #48
rudycantfail Jun 2012 #53
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #54
October Jun 2012 #27
abelenkpe Jun 2012 #30
libodem Jun 2012 #6
Scootaloo Jun 2012 #9
CrispyQ Jun 2012 #10
hifiguy Jun 2012 #13
Bette Noir Jun 2012 #16
jwirr Jun 2012 #11
hifiguy Jun 2012 #12
pansypoo53219 Jun 2012 #17
CleanLucre Jun 2012 #18
Martin Eden Jun 2012 #19
99Forever Jun 2012 #23
RainDog Jun 2012 #24
Speck Tater Jun 2012 #28
yardwork Jun 2012 #38
Speck Tater Jun 2012 #44
datasuspect Jun 2012 #31
patrice Jun 2012 #35
whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #36
yardwork Jun 2012 #37
Chisox08 Jun 2012 #41
VTX Jun 2012 #43
librechik Jun 2012 #45
damnedifIknow Jun 2012 #47
midnight Jun 2012 #49
DirkGently Jun 2012 #51
bobthedrummer Jun 2012 #55

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:12 PM

1. Good one. Thanks kpete! K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:16 PM

2. I have mine, fuck the rest of you.

Do I need the sarcasum thingy???? I would think that the largest progressive website in the world would be organizing the protest of tens of thousand in every major city in this country. Until more people feel the pain mass protest will not happen in the USA, that's why a part of me says let the repugs have 2012 and then the pain will come. Gotta run now, off to watch NASCAR and Fox news.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:00 PM

25. The Ayn Rand worshipping generation is screwing us all. /nt

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Response to Hotler (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:03 PM

39. If you let them take over in 2012 they will ensure we never had a chance to vote them out of office.

If they regain power they will put in laws making it harder for even regular people to vote them out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:32 PM

3. Enough will be enough when it will be too late! It appears we are headed to a police state

controlled by corporations. When I see how well their long term strategy has worked, I tend to lose hope. We fight with each other over the same shit, abortion, gay marriage... While our country is crashing down around us. Maybe it will be enough when no one can afford their cable bill!

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:48 PM

4. +10000 nt

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 11:14 PM

8. hmph!

We ARE a police state, controlled by corporations!

Here's what's really sad: I have been un- or under-employed for more than four years. I am currently living with a friend I've known for more than thirty years. She is a single mom living in a thirty-year-old, double-wide trailer. She has very little, but she has taken me in.

Meanwhile, I have BLOOD FAMILY members who are obscenely wealthy. Not a single one of these wealthy family members has offered to help me. Ever.

Not

a

single

one...

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Response to chervilant (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:46 PM

22. I have obscenely rich RW relatives

I have to see their Rush and Boehner "likes" on FB every day. If they offered my daughter free tuition to the university of her choice (not that they have ever given her so much as a dime for birthdays, holidays, graduation), I'm not sure I would feel comfortable taking anything from them.

I would feel dirty. It would not ennoble the ignorant, and it would make me beholden to them.

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:56 PM

52. Well,

only one of my obscenely wealthy relatives (OWR) is right-wing.

My main point is that MONEY is more important to most of us than FAMILY. It's a variation of "I've got mine, fuck you." This makes me very sad.

(I agree, I HOPE I will not need to accept money from my right wing OWR. If the global economy tanks on the level that I--and SO many others--expect, I may not have to worry about accepting money from anyone...)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 10:35 PM

5. That student debt bubble blows my mind. It forces kids to grovel for corporate jobs.

Trying to do public interest work, such as community organizing, is just not financially feasible for today's college grad, unless they are the rare trust fund baby with a conscious. And that is why the Chamber of Commerce likes it just the way it is.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 11:12 PM

7. It forces kids to be wageslaves to their corporate masters.

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Response to Raster (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:29 PM

14. You don't need student debt for that.

Employer-based health insurance will do.

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Response to Bette Noir (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:06 PM

29. +1 nt

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Response to Raster (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:32 PM

15. no one FORCED them to take the loans

 

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Response to CleanLucre (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:40 PM

20. Of course no one FORCED them to take student loans, however, paying for a college education....

...is extremely difficult if you don't have access to the rich daddy support network. Part of the big lie is that a good college education will help you get a good job, which will allow you to raise a family, buy a home -- the standard American dream. Which in itself is proving to be more of a shallow, empty promise.

Clean Lucre, eh? Considering how filthy money truly is, I'd say you might need a tag... for your handle and your post.

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

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Response to Raster (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:01 PM

26. of course it is

 

but this was a racket and a gamble people chose to use. My post responded to the repeated use of the word FORCE previously. have a nice day.

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Response to Raster (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:40 PM

50. And they BETTER go to college, if they are going to win against $71 million from college-dropout


Sheldon Adelson, along with other rich donors to the GOP.

You suggest the "dream" is a shallow, empty promise", a very likey outcome. Which,clearly, makes them not "forced", but delusional.

For their neighbors who don't buy into this, it is very likely that the person who takes a home health care aide or other low-paying service job (according to the BLS the largest increase in the number of jobs has been in these areas for years) will be better off financially in 10 years, especially if we don't re-inflate the economy and create a life based on credit and driving too-big SUV's again.


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Response to CleanLucre (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:45 PM

21. Yeah no one forced them.. They could go out and take a

minimum wage job! After all we live in the greatest country on the planet and the greatest country on the planet would make sure that someone without a college education can make enough money to support themselves, especially when they are doing labor intensive jobs that no one else wants to do.

What are you, new?

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:15 PM

33. did you notice the use of "FORCE"?

 

Yes your sarcastic comments are true. Did ppl taking loans consider they might get stuck like this?

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Response to CleanLucre (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:15 PM

32. No they can choose to enjoy low wages, even less job security

and greater chance of unemployment instead.

Scholarships and grants dried up as loans from private banks took over during the 90s. Even those lucky enough to win a scholarship almost never get a full ride necessitating loans. Yes here in America we reward those who are especially talented and work hard to excel at school with ten to twenty years of crushing debt so they can continue their education.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:16 PM

34. that writing was on the wall

 

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Response to CleanLucre (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:05 PM

40. No they were not forced but they wanted to better their lives.

You really don't care about your fellow American do you? It's probably just me myself and I in your life. Someday you better hope there is no one like you who refuses to help you with that attitude.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #40)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:43 PM

42. That makes no sense

 

My point is the gamble was made and it turned out like this. It wasn't forced on anyone. And there are other ways to go to college and better your lives. This is reality. They got screwn by a racket.

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Response to CleanLucre (Reply #42)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:22 PM

46. I guess it depends on how narrowly you define 'forced'

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A starving man isn't forced to steal bread, but he is obliged to. America is broken. Students aren't recklessly taking on enormous debt and risk for the hell of it, they are obliged to by a corrupt pay to play system.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #46)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:35 PM

48. good point

 

"forced" as in going along with a scam that cranked up 20 years ago as Reagonomics headed us for this trainwreck. So in a sense, "Students HAVE BEEN recklessly taking on enormous debt and risk for the RISK of it, they are obliged by a corrupt pay to play system." That's what gambling is.

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Response to CleanLucre (Reply #48)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:04 PM

53. In your mind, who is more to blame

 

the individual student or the corrupted system?

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Response to rudycantfail (Reply #53)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:23 PM

54. good question

 

really good question

the second feeds on the blind obedience of the first.

chicken/egg?

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Response to Raster (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:01 PM

27. So true. Wow, wish we had "like" buttons for posts/replies.

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Response to Raster (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:06 PM

30. +1 nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2012, 10:58 PM

6. My great grandmother Julianna

Came over on a boat from Norway. Might be time to expatriate back. We are going down hill in a hurry.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:15 AM

9. One reason I actually spent time trying to learn suomi

Even had a friend in Turku willing to house me.

Been thinking that maybe I should have taken her up on that one when I had the chance...

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:07 AM

10. If I were 20 years younger I'd look to moving out of this country.

~sigh.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:27 PM

13. Me too.

I'd be gone like the Road Runner to any place that would have me. New Zealand or Australia would be my first choice, but I wouldn't mind going to S. Korea, China or Vietnam to teach English for a couple of years while figuring out what to do for the long run. At least I'd be out of this open air lunatic asylum where people actually believe Jeebus rode dinosaurs and refuse to recognize that the ultimate goal of the plutocracy is to exterminate 50% of the population.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:32 PM

16. I wouldn't pass the physical to emigrate to Canada.

They got wise to Americans wanting to take advantage of their health care system, and now there's a physical retirement-age Americans have to pass in order to live there. Hey, American retirees might sink Mexico's national health care plan, I've heard.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:21 PM

11. That is wonderful. Once upon a time we used to think of education and our youth that way.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:24 PM

12. That says it all.

In a nutshell.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:32 PM

17. i have been saying college is the new high school. public colleges should be free.

more trade schools. WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWYERS.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:33 PM

18. "THINKING"?!

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:38 PM

19. Is the United States the Greatest Nation on Earth?

Not by any standard that most sane people would apply

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:49 PM

23. When it is "enough"...

... things are going to get much worse before (if ever) they get better. It saddens me to look at the Nation we are leaving to our children. I have little hope that the coming shitstorm can be averted. What a freakin' legacy we are leaving.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:51 PM

24. k&r n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:04 PM

28. HRRRMMMPH! Sounds like SOCIALISM to me. nt

 

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:49 PM

38. Exactly. We need more SOCIALISM in the U.S.A.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #38)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:36 PM

44. Of course we do, but...

 

try to explain that to an entire generation that was raised to fear socialism. It's just so frustrating to try to explain to some people that socialism can actually be a good thing.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:11 PM

31. it will stop when the pigfuckers start to bleed in the streets

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:11 PM

35. INVEST IN AMERICA - FREE THE STUDENTS!!!!!

FYI all, I HAVE screamed this at the top of my lungs in front of a couple of BoAs and accompanied by a few to several hundred other Occupiers.

Solidarity OWS!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:42 PM

36. The important part many here will ignore

"Meanwhile, your rich own most of your politicians, and fool many of your citizens into fighting to keep it that way."

This election is no different. Ask yourself how many of the egregious issues detailed in this comic will be resolved, or substantially improved after the election, no matter who becomes president.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:45 PM

37. Awesome! Thank you for posting.

A similar poster could be created for the U.S. healthcare system.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:15 PM

41. Because there is a huge I got mine fuck you segment of our population

We have a group of billionaires who are trying to bring us back to the Gilded Age, and the idiots who are fighting with the billionaires to make it happen. Our politicians are too afraid to tax the "Job Creators", who for some reason are not creating any jobs except for in China, India and what ever Third World country where people are willing to work for near slave wages.

We have Church leaders telling the flocks to ignore what Jesus actually said and hate gays, blacks, Muslims and anybody who isn't a White Christian. They vote for people who will screw them over and over because they believe that if a real democrat gets elected they will be forced to have a gay marriage, followed by an abortion all while getting their guns taken from them.

The Republicon party has built their entire platform on government does not work, and when they get into office they break the government and make sure that it doesn't work.

Our priorities are fucked up. We spend more money to lock people up, then we spend to educate people. We spend more money killing people then we do to provide our own people with Health care. Until we get money out of politics nothing is going to change. It is time to for a Constitutional Amendment that keeps billionaires and millionaires from buying our elections.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:46 PM

43. WHO??

 

Nordic countries WHO??? And they have contributed WHAT to the world??

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:40 PM

45. Silhouette Man, you act as if Americans were actually given a choice

when in fact those who represent us do not even try to get Americans what they want and need. They are only there to enrich or empower themselves, for the most part, and there is nothing Americans can do about it, since we are told that voting is what our input is limited to.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:34 PM

47. "You spend more

on your prisons than on your students." True and chilling.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:38 PM

49. Imagine that... A country that doesn't invest in war, can invest in their future...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:48 PM

51. Excellent.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:03 PM

55. K&R n/t

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