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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:26 PM Feb 2017

If there were a measure of "global pain and suffering"...

... what's do you estimate the percentage increase would be during the DT years?

I'd put it at 20%

I'm sure others could add to this list, but these are the visions that make me ill:

Death and suffering as a result of incoherent/ignorant/dangerous foreign policy.

Increase in humanitarian abuses without pressure/condemnation from the highest levels of the U.S. government.

Withdrawal of monetary support with DT's "American first" doctrine.

Unchecked suffering as any action motivated by the "goodwill of the American people" is thwarted.

Suffering and death of refugees who would otherwise have a shot at escaping intolerable conditions.

Denial of health care at home.

Denial of critical reproductive services in the name of "religious freedom."

Stress-related illness and death among people who give a shit about human rights and protecting fellow humans against the excesses of the powerful.



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If there were a measure of "global pain and suffering"... (Original Post) pat_k Feb 2017 OP
you forgot climate change wendyb Feb 2017 #1
My bad... big time. pat_k Feb 2017 #4
Not your bad. It's human nature. femmedem Feb 2017 #5
Infinite, if you include the years beyond his term, because lack of action on climate change femmedem Feb 2017 #2
Yeah. You're right. Mine is a gross underestimation. pat_k Feb 2017 #3

wendyb

(60 posts)
1. you forgot climate change
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:56 PM
Feb 2017

gutting the EPA and rolling back regulations and defunding all that is humanitarian..like the arts

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. My bad... big time.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:05 PM
Feb 2017

The visions of horror that haunt me tend to be limited to the present and near future. Dangerous short-sightedness. A trap I should have the sense to avoid.

Of course, as he dismantles critical protections against the excesses of unchecked corporate power, he dismantles any progress toward limiting the magnitude of climate change. (We've passed the point of "reversibility.&quot Instead of acting to limit, DT appears to be doing everything in his power to maximize the catastrophic effects.

Resultant suffering is truly incalculable.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
5. Not your bad. It's human nature.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:55 PM
Feb 2017

We're just not hardwired to understand the urgency of a slow-moving cataclysm like climate change.

I just got a survey from my state rep about my biggest concerns. Climate change wasn't even on his list of possible answers.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
2. Infinite, if you include the years beyond his term, because lack of action on climate change
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:09 PM
Feb 2017

will cause an irreversible increase in atmospheric CO2, leading to unimaginable human suffering and death, if not extinction.

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