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Fuck you Jill Stein... (Original Post) SidDithers Jan 2017 OP
wow Takket Jan 2017 #1
Yep Uponthegears Jan 2017 #5
Oh, she's full of 'em Cha Jan 2017 #16
It's because Stein is a dishonest, insincere fucking idiot. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #64
Four years would put her right back in the 2020 race. So my wish is that she simply go away.... Hekate Jan 2017 #109
That's why I think these threads on her dangerous lies are so necessary.. Cha Jan 2017 #126
Kicking this post. Do you have it as an OP yet so folks can Bookmark? Hekate Jan 2017 #132
She has to earn her Putin money somehow obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #66
What a piece of **** she is. skylucy Jan 2017 #2
" " " " n/t MBS Jan 2017 #19
Now $4 million richer BainsBane Jan 2017 #3
that too. n/t MBS Jan 2017 #20
i couldn't believe people gave her that money obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #67
FUGG her! lastlib Jan 2017 #94
She doesn't like our drone attacks. HassleCat Jan 2017 #4
Exactly. tenorly Jan 2017 #29
I neither support nor appreciate Putin puppets obamanut2012 Jan 2017 #70
Nor do I. charlyvi Jan 2017 #92
Agendas and political performance for attention. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #103
It may have been an oversight. tenorly Jan 2017 #105
Maybe she was contributing good arguments before... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #106
I hear you. tenorly Jan 2017 #107
Obama did more drone strikes in his first year than Bush in his entire 8 years. JonLP24 Jan 2017 #131
See what I mean about this person? bravenak Jan 2017 #6
Indeed. Wonder if they're happy NOW? calimary Jan 2017 #34
They live for this shit. They think like Susan Sarandon bravenak Jan 2017 #39
that's really generous starshine00 Jan 2017 #63
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #7
"leftists"... SidDithers Jan 2017 #10
And here I thought Democrats were "leftists." truebluegreen Jan 2017 #12
I thought so too. Why the divisive posts? yardwork Jan 2017 #37
There's LEFT, and there's ALT-LEFT. ALT-LEFT is what she and a few others are. MADem Jan 2017 #116
Uh, didn't realize you speak for the party. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #120
"party loyalists"? I say fuck off stein..she's a liar Cha Jan 2017 #14
Oh look...right in the middle of the picture is Linda Sarsour, DURHAM D Jan 2017 #23
stein is a dumbass.. who got dumbasses into believing Cha Jan 2017 #27
Joy had Sarsour on this morning, so I changed channels. lapucelle Jan 2017 #33
Sarsour was brag-tweeting today about the Brooklyn judge who wrote the stay. yardwork Jan 2017 #41
I didn't know this till recently but Sarsour lives in the same area as me and is considering hrmjustin Jan 2017 #74
You can vote against her. yardwork Jan 2017 #84
I don't think she runs in the end because local Democrats are not thrilled about her. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #88
If she's seeking credibility somewhere DFW Jan 2017 #8
Putin, maybe. yardwork Jan 2017 #42
Well, OK, let me amend that DFW Jan 2017 #124
fucking asshole JI7 Jan 2017 #9
I have no idea why this woman gets any support from our side MrScorpio Jan 2017 #11
Because a lack of intelligence and no grasp of foreign affairs and history MADem Jan 2017 #117
FUJS Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #13
if she feels this way why share a table with KewlKat Jan 2017 #15
Good point.. why is stein so cozy with putin? Cha Jan 2017 #17
I'd like to know if he funded any of her campaign BainsBane Jan 2017 #26
Tweeting from Aruba Jill?? Bengus81 Jan 2017 #18
Anti-vaxxer loving creepy asshole piece of shit ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #21
Jill Stein is a great IQ test FLPanhandle Jan 2017 #22
Jill Stein and Glenn Greenwald Are Working Overtime on the False Equivalency TomCADem Jan 2017 #24
They're all alike!!11 mcar Jan 2017 #25
Take it for what it's worth Lotusflower70 Jan 2017 #28
Her mission is to divide and deflate the morale of those fighting against Trump ecstatic Jan 2017 #30
She should fuck alllll the way off with that mess. wildeyed Jan 2017 #31
Lots of really ugly name calling here . . FairWinds Jan 2017 #32
Our Federal Government Is Turning Away Refugees for Discriminatory Reasons... TomCADem Jan 2017 #35
For what? n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #36
Stein helped to elect Trump by actively working against the Democratic candidate, lapucelle Jan 2017 #40
Best summary right there dalton99a Jan 2017 #83
Really? What rules are being broken? yardwork Jan 2017 #43
So alert... SidDithers Jan 2017 #53
I'd say they're deserving of desserts. With ice cream on top. oasis Jan 2017 #62
Why should we be kind to trump supporters JI7 Jan 2017 #69
Why? mcar Jan 2017 #85
where is it against the TOS to bash the political enemies of the Democratic Party? nt geek tragedy Jan 2017 #134
This is not JPR! We support "Democrats" here. Alert away. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #137
At the very least her timing is obscene Rural_Progressive Jan 2017 #38
Maybe that was the plan. yardwork Jan 2017 #44
Seems like her intent is to divide opposition to Trump. Blue_true Jan 2017 #76
I wish... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #45
There's no difference between Trump and Stein IronLionZion Jan 2017 #46
When is the fuckwit going to shut her pie hole and go the hell away. onecaliberal Jan 2017 #47
I am serious Generator Jan 2017 #49
I wouldn't doubt it onecaliberal Jan 2017 #50
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #48
I never gave her a dime to do anything MFM008 Jan 2017 #51
I never gave her a dime to do anything. LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #80
STFU Jill sheshe2 Jan 2017 #52
You were right Sid. orangecrush Jan 2017 #54
Amazing how some here are still defending her and chide us when hrmjustin Jan 2017 #55
Not the same thing whatsoever! manicraven Jan 2017 #56
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #57
+1 nt Javaman Jan 2017 #59
stein is gd liar.. Cha Jan 2017 #68
Jill Stein is just about as narcissistic and destructive as Trump dalton99a Jan 2017 #86
Sleazy and weasely, too. Cha Jan 2017 #89
neither of what you posted has anything do with the OP. Javaman Jan 2017 #111
stein is a gd LIAR and helped to enable the current Planetary Cha Jan 2017 #113
Fuck Off jill stein.. she is a gd Liar.. Cha Jan 2017 #60
It would be more constructive to aim your anger here: diva77 Jan 2017 #58
There is no reason people can't be angered BOTH by Jill Stein pnwmom Jan 2017 #90
Really? Progressive dog Jan 2017 #97
I can walk and chew gum at the same time nini Jan 2017 #136
Stein had better cough up the money she scammed for the recounts. oasis Jan 2017 #61
Fuck off Stein. Nt NCTraveler Jan 2017 #65
Democrats gave her a lot of money under false pretenses oberliner Jan 2017 #71
HEY SID! May she be eaten by a Tyrannosaurus Rex yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #72
Nazi enabler Dem2 Jan 2017 #73
Let's pressure Jill to give the recount profit to the ACLU Hokie Jan 2017 #75
She needs to go live with her buddy Putin. brer cat Jan 2017 #77
So are we all clear now on her function? Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #78
Never trusted Stein and never WILL... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #79
So many reasons to love this post! It needed saying!! NurseJackie Jan 2017 #81
... Cha Jan 2017 #91
Moron brettdale Jan 2017 #82
thank-you Jill Stein for reaffirming why the Green Party is obsolete. Nader built the coffin, and still_one Jan 2017 #87
To be expected Progressive dog Jan 2017 #93
She can kiss both sides of my ass nini Jan 2017 #95
Oh no no no, Jill Stein n/t only smilies Lulu KC Jan 2017 #96
Not a dime's worth of difference between Stein and Nader Hekate Jan 2017 #98
The intercept article does have a point. Tragl1 Jan 2017 #99
Jill Stein is a tool of the right wing. nt SunSeeker Jan 2017 #100
She has millions of dollars from her recount scam oberliner Jan 2017 #101
And so ends Jill Stein Lanius Jan 2017 #102
Stein and Putin ... Real or Photoshopped? NurseJackie Jan 2017 #104
Real oberliner Jan 2017 #118
Dingbat IMWITHHERR Jan 2017 #108
Stein helped elect Trump Gothmog Jan 2017 #110
...in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 47of74 Jan 2017 #112
She's a monster, and a Putin tool. Now the mask is lifted. nt MADem Jan 2017 #114
Finally, MADem! Cha Jan 2017 #121
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #115
I don't know much about Stein, except her "policies" last year... JHan Jan 2017 #119
And MOTHERFUCK the Intercept dudebros who'd rather piss on Dems than report on Trump Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #122
Omidyar and his cronies are shitting bricks now.... MADem Feb 2017 #138
Even though it was 17 years ago, I renounce Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #123
Dangerous#1 Dangerous#2 Dangerous#3 stein on trump & Hillary Cha Jan 2017 #125
Good addition to the thread... SidDithers Jan 2017 #129
stein needs to be exposed as a Liar and treated as a pariah by all those Cha Jan 2017 #130
She's just trying to get relavent so she can get some donor money* townie Jan 2017 #127
This woman is NO progressive to say Obama had the same policies as Crazy Trump bigdarryl Jan 2017 #128
fuck you for the billionth time Stein La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #133
What sid said. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #135

Takket

(21,568 posts)
1. wow
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jan 2017

I don't want this thread to be derailed into an ethical argument about the use of drones and our presence in other countries, but regardless of the means, targeting overseas terrorists and banning vetted and approved political refugees are two VERY different things. Major straw-man by Stein here.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
64. It's because Stein is a dishonest, insincere fucking idiot.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jan 2017

I would be so pleased if she went for a walk and fell into a chasm for about the next 4 years.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
109. Four years would put her right back in the 2020 race. So my wish is that she simply go away....
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:51 PM
Jan 2017

....altogether.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
126. That's why I think these threads on her dangerous lies are so necessary..
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:24 AM
Jan 2017
Dangerous#1 Dangerous#2 Dangerous#3 stein on trump & Hillary













they damn well will.. sitting on their millions while the Planet goes to shite and people go hungry and Immigrants banned from the US by "the bumbler" according the ever present idiot, jill stein

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
132. Kicking this post. Do you have it as an OP yet so folks can Bookmark?
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 01:58 PM
Jan 2017

Damn she is one scary Putin Tool.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
4. She doesn't like our drone attacks.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jan 2017

Neither do I, but why single out Obama, who pretty much inherited the thing? Stein resembles Lyndon LaRouche more and more every day.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
29. Exactly.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jan 2017

I support and appreciate Jill Stein; but in this instance by neglecting to mention Bush - the most inhuman U.S. President by far, until the current one anyway - she made Obama the focus of her tweet, which is unfair for the reasons you outlined above.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
103. Agendas and political performance for attention.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:35 PM
Jan 2017

If she neglected to mention bush, who bequeathed the Middle East wars to President Obama, who was then duty-bound to fight the terror upsurge that bush caused---then clearly she's got an agenda. And it ain't for US.

And I had thought she was doing something good when she was asking for all those donations , because I thought she was going to save the corrupted election.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
105. It may have been an oversight.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:43 PM
Jan 2017

Over the years, she's certainly made enough criticism of Bush's wars and pro-bankster policies to fill a whole bookshelf - and she was the only high-profile figure (including Hillary) to actively contest the results in three states Putin's hackers stole for King Con.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
106. Maybe she was contributing good arguments before...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:01 PM
Jan 2017

I don't follow her. I just became aware of her sabotaging Hillary, comparing Hillary UNFAVORABLY to dump (WTF? ), making a show of vandalism at DAPL but not doing much else, and now, meeting with Putin and keeping 4million dollars she claimed to need at the ultimate last minute to fight the hacked election.

I don't get it...I don't see much to admire here. Maybe she was better before.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
107. I hear you.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 09:36 PM
Jan 2017

Keep in mind though that Wisconsin (i.e. Scott Walker) deliberately overestimated the cost of the recount, presumably to dissuade Stein from the effort.

The resulting surplus of $2 million Stein has pledged toward an electoral reform NGO. I'm sure the media will hold her to that (as they should with anyone).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
131. Obama did more drone strikes in his first year than Bush in his entire 8 years.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jan 2017

Obama inherited a lot from Bush but instead of rolling back he expanded many Executive Branch powers that are now being handed to Trump.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
6. See what I mean about this person?
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 05:43 PM
Jan 2017

Just needs attention all the fucking time. I hope people who voted for her see what she is now.

Response to SidDithers (Original post)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
116. There's LEFT, and there's ALT-LEFT. ALT-LEFT is what she and a few others are.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:36 PM
Jan 2017

Democrats are leftists, centrists/moderates, and we even have a few conservatives.

Our tent is big--but we draw the line when it comes to supporting dictators like Putin.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
120. Uh, didn't realize you speak for the party.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 01:25 AM
Jan 2017

But a word of advice: the "with us or agin' us" BS is way too prevalent and smacks of the pukes' positions.

And whatever you or I or anyone thinks of Jill Stein, Obama's drone wars in multiple countries are both morally reprehensible and counter-productive. Yes, even though it was Obama. Saying otherwise is called "situational ethics."

Cha

(297,240 posts)
14. "party loyalists"? I say fuck off stein..she's a liar
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 05:50 PM
Jan 2017

snip//

"US Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has said that her supporters should "absolutely not" vote for Hillary Clinton to stop a Donald Trump presidency, even in a swing state.

In an interview with Mehdi Hasan, host of Al Jazeera's Upfront, Stein said that Clinton "is not different enough" from the New York real estate businessman, to enable her or the Democratic Party "to save your job, save your life, or save the planet."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/09/jill-stein-hillary-trump-presidency-160928210338543.html

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
23. Oh look...right in the middle of the picture is Linda Sarsour,
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jan 2017

con artist, Bernie supporter, and liar who encouraged Democrats to vote for Stein. Hate her too.

But where oh where is Susan Saranwrap?



Cha

(297,240 posts)
27. stein is a dumbass.. who got dumbasses into believing
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:06 PM
Jan 2017

there was no difference.. just like nader.

Where do you see sarsour, Durham?

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
33. Joy had Sarsour on this morning, so I changed channels.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:16 PM
Jan 2017

We need to get the word out concerning her culpability in helping to elect Trump.

yardwork

(61,609 posts)
41. Sarsour was brag-tweeting today about the Brooklyn judge who wrote the stay.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jan 2017

My immediate thought was: Fuck you, Jill. You're part of the reason we're in this mess.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
74. I didn't know this till recently but Sarsour lives in the same area as me and is considering
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:26 PM
Jan 2017

running for our city council district.

I hope she doesn't.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
88. I don't think she runs in the end because local Democrats are not thrilled about her.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:57 PM
Jan 2017

And this is one of the only swing districts in the city and I doubt she can win this district.

We already have a great candidate that we hope to get elected.

My main problem with her is that I have never seen her doing local advocating for the neighborhood and never until recently seen her name in the local papers here. I think if she got elected she would be about her not the district.

DFW

(54,384 posts)
124. Well, OK, let me amend that
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:00 AM
Jan 2017

"Seeking credibility with anyone aside from hostile heads of state with whom she had sat next to at dinner within the last eighteen months."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
117. Because a lack of intelligence and no grasp of foreign affairs and history
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:38 PM
Jan 2017

are not strictly GOP failings.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
22. Jill Stein is a great IQ test
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 05:58 PM
Jan 2017

If anyone supports her, it says a lot about their lack of IQ and knowledge.

Makes it easy to read posts about her and any supporters are automatically put in the "idiot" category and their opinion on any topic thereafter is discounted.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
24. Jill Stein and Glenn Greenwald Are Working Overtime on the False Equivalency
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:02 PM
Jan 2017

Heck, Glenn Greenwald finally said something critical about Trump in his column. The sock puppet "progressives" will need to work hard to earn their pay, and defend Trump from the "left."

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
28. Take it for what it's worth
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:09 PM
Jan 2017

Which is nothing. Considering the things she said about 9/11, this comment isn't surprising. She really is truly despicable.

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
30. Her mission is to divide and deflate the morale of those fighting against Trump
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jan 2017

If all sides are the same, what's the point of fighting?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
31. She should fuck alllll the way off with that mess.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jan 2017

That is the new Russian trollbot talking point, BTW. Obama is equivalent to Putin or some crazy, illogical distortion. Call it out early and often if you see it...

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
32. Lots of really ugly name calling here . .
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:13 PM
Jan 2017

what is becoming of DU?

Half of the posts above are deserving of alerts.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
35. Our Federal Government Is Turning Away Refugees for Discriminatory Reasons...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

...and Jill Stein, a so-called progressive, is trying to defend Trump's actions by suggesting that they are no different than President Obama's. So, I think people are justified to call out her comments.

If she had condemned Trump's actions, then folks would be fine. Instead, posing as a progressive, she is trying to normalize Trump's actions. This is a betrayal.

lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
40. Stein helped to elect Trump by actively working against the Democratic candidate,
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jan 2017

and then scammed people out of their money. She is beneath contempt.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
85. Why?
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jan 2017

Stein is not a Democrat. She admittedly works against Democrats. Nothing alertable in any of these comments, as far as I can see.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
38. At the very least her timing is obscene
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jan 2017

I would very much like a real third choice in this country so we don't keep getting bounced back and forth like ping pong balls. No matter how much I might like it THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO ARTICULATE THAT SORT OF THOUGHT.

When someone's house is getting ready to go up in flames it's really not helpful go critique the contents of the pantry. How do people who are obviously intellectually intelligent and yet are TOTALLY DEVOID OF COMMON SENSE?

I believe woman has just put the final nail in the Green Party's coffin.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
76. Seems like her intent is to divide opposition to Trump.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017

If Stein introduce valid hot button issues like US military action under President Obama to peel off Trump opposition that also are virulently anti military intervention. Her timing is perfect for such an effort.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
47. When is the fuckwit going to shut her pie hole and go the hell away.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:32 PM
Jan 2017

I hope I never see her on the street

Response to SidDithers (Original post)

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
80. I never gave her a dime to do anything.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:44 PM
Jan 2017

Same here

Fattern her putin-loving Hillary-hating pockets?

NO WAY.

orangecrush

(19,555 posts)
54. You were right Sid.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:43 PM
Jan 2017

I was wrong.






"You may have read reports about Michael Flynn, Trump’s National Security Advisor, turned heads by attending the Russian State owned TV Gala as Putin’s guest and by making semi-regular appearances on Russian TV. www.politico.com/… But, you may be surprised at who was also at the dinner as Putin’s guest, Jill Stein of the Green party. You can see her in the above picture. She admits to meeting with Putin.

Like Michael Flynn, Jill Stein also calls for “collaboration with Putin” and has been criticized for remaining silent on his human right’s violations. www.jill2016.com… americablog.com… Russia’s Green activists allege that she is an “accomplice” with Putin according to Newsweek magazine. www.newsweek.com… Some believe that she was actively working with Putin to help influence our election in favor of Trump by stealing votes away from Hillary."


http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/22/1603031/-Jill-Stein-s-Connection-to-Putin

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
55. Amazing how some here are still defending her and chide us when
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:45 PM
Jan 2017

we tell her off.

Amazing how they are ready to trash Hillary but if you show some anger at Jill you are a horrible person who is not helping and deserved to be alerted on.

Fuck you Jill Stein and there is a special place in hell for you.


Thus endeth the lesson!

Response to SidDithers (Original post)

Cha

(297,240 posts)
68. stein is gd liar..
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jan 2017

snip//

"US Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has said that her supporters should "absolutely not" vote for Hillary Clinton to stop a Donald Trump presidency, even in a swing state.


In an interview with Mehdi Hasan, host of Al Jazeera's Upfront, Stein said that Clinton "is not different enough" from the New York real estate businessman, to enable her or the Democratic Party "to save your job, save your life, or save the planet."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/09/jill-stein-hillary-trump-presidency-160928210338543.html

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
111. neither of what you posted has anything do with the OP.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

but you know, you gotta hate.

welcome to my little friend, ignore.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
113. stein is a gd LIAR and helped to enable the current Planetary
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 10:47 PM
Jan 2017

Crisis we have. That's just deflection to call me a "hater" of stein. What's to like about that sniveling weasel tool.

As far as you putting me on Ignore.. I'm honored.. have at it. If you really have me on Ignore you'll never see it and won't be replying.

Good for me.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
60. Fuck Off jill stein.. she is a gd Liar..
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jan 2017

snip//

"US Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has said that her supporters should "absolutely not" vote for Hillary Clinton to stop a Donald Trump presidency, even in a swing state.


In an interview with Mehdi Hasan, host of Al Jazeera's Upfront, Stein said that Clinton "is not different enough" from the New York real estate businessman, to enable her or the Democratic Party "to save your job, save your life, or save the planet."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/09/jill-stein-hillary-trump-presidency-160928210338543.html

diva77

(7,643 posts)
58. It would be more constructive to aim your anger here:
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jan 2017

All of the computerized voting companies such as:

Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold Election Systems)
ES&S
Sequoia Voting Systems
Hart InterCivic

and at Karl Rove whose strategy it was to install Katherine Harris style Secretaries of State in all of the strategic states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida

Start there -- we need verifiable elections where our votes are cast in secret and tabulated in public. Right now, with the computerized systems - DREs, Optical Scanners, Computerized Central Tabulators, etc. things are the EXACT REVERSE: our votes are no longer cast in secret - they are at the mercy of proprietary software (therefore vulnerable since they are not secret to the corporation that owns the software & hardware), and are tabulated in private with proprietary software (therefore vulnerable to whatever lies in the software &/or hardware).

It is nearly impossible to cast a vote that meets with the requirement of every state that votes be cast in secret and publicly tabulated unless paper ballots are used and then hand counted.

The original purpose for being able to cast a vote in secret was to avoid voter intimidation.

Just like Fukushima, computerized voting is a deadly hazard that continues despite being kept off the media radar.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
90. There is no reason people can't be angered BOTH by Jill Stein
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:02 PM
Jan 2017

and by the failings of our voting system.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
97. Really?
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

Stein might as well have been paid by Trump or his buddy Putin.
BTW Those optical scanners are used to scan and count paper ballots. Their counts can be checked against the paper.

nini

(16,672 posts)
136. I can walk and chew gum at the same time
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jan 2017

No need to lecture others about how to focus their energies. Some of us have been at this stuff for over 50 years.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
71. Democrats gave her a lot of money under false pretenses
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:20 PM
Jan 2017

Some of whom are members of this very site (and justified doing so).

She is going to use that money against us.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
73. Nazi enabler
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:25 PM
Jan 2017

...she may be one of the more dangerous people in the country right now. She must be ignored.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
78. So are we all clear now on her function?
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:34 PM
Jan 2017

She divided the Democratic Party and continues to sow seeds of division. She is not to be trusted.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
79. Never trusted Stein and never WILL...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jan 2017

Oh look, there's Flynn, Stein, PUTIN TANG tRumputin's puppet master and blackmailer and co-leader of the USA enjoying tasty vittles over IN RUSSIA.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
81. So many reasons to love this post! It needed saying!!
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jan 2017

Can we also say "fuck you" to her defenders and apologists? Is that allowed? If so, then "FUCK YOU!" to them as well ... if not, then ... never mind.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
87. thank-you Jill Stein for reaffirming why the Green Party is obsolete. Nader built the coffin, and
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 07:54 PM
Jan 2017

you have put the final nail in that coffin

Maybe she can disparage Bernie again as not being sincere when she is having dinner with Putin

What a complete imbecile



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
101. She has millions of dollars from her recount scam
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jan 2017

She got refunds from Michigan and Wisconsin.

There is no accountability for that money - given to her primarily by Democrats, which she continues to bash.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
118. Real
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:41 PM
Jan 2017

You can watch video of the event on Russia Today's YouTube page.

Also, an interview with Stein talking about the dinner.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
112. ...in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 10:44 PM
Jan 2017

And Lucifer.
And Cthulhu.
And the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
And Kahless.
And the Force.
And the entire starting line up of the 1976 Philadelphia Flyers.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
121. Finally, MADem!
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 01:27 AM
Jan 2017

The "Greens" helped get a Climate Change Denier in the WH.. they must be so fucking proud.




Throw cornel west in there, too.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
119. I don't know much about Stein, except her "policies" last year...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 11:43 PM
Jan 2017

And her hapless townhall meetings, but it's quite simple for me:

Anyone who enabled the election of Donald Trump last year, gets put on the shit list.

The election was simple: One candidate had a superior platform, the other did not by miles. Jill Stein's mischief helped hamstring the efforts of the better candidate - thus she gets put on the shit list.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
122. And MOTHERFUCK the Intercept dudebros who'd rather piss on Dems than report on Trump
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:54 AM
Jan 2017

They've been floating that 'Obama is the one who is most responsible for Trump' emoprog meme on Twitter for awhile now...

Yeah, real "fearless and adversarial" shielding the republicans from any culpability whatsoever... Lowlife cowardly subhuman hypocritical pieces of shit... Greenwald and his Putinist cult are scum... Cockroaches... The left in the country better wake the hell up and realize assclowns like Glenn Greenwald aren't on our side before they fuck up 2018 and 2020 for us, too...


MADem

(135,425 posts)
138. Omidyar and his cronies are shitting bricks now....
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 02:54 PM
Feb 2017

I think no one thought Trump would actually "win." (It's in quotes purposefully).

They love being adversarial, but now, they're scared shitless when they're facing down an actual fascist and his puppetmaster who actually has no compunctions about KILLING people.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
123. Even though it was 17 years ago, I renounce
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 02:59 AM
Jan 2017

ever having associated myself with the GPUSA

Traitors, all of them

Cha

(297,240 posts)
125. Dangerous#1 Dangerous#2 Dangerous#3 stein on trump & Hillary
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:21 AM
Jan 2017












they damn well will.. sitting on their millions while the Planet goes to shite and people go hungry and Immigrants banned from the US by "the bumbler" according the ever present idiot, jill stein

Cha

(297,240 posts)
130. stein needs to be exposed as a Liar and treated as a pariah by all those
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jan 2017

who care about the future of our Planet.

You're Welcome, Sid.. thank you!

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