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But the news from Moscow may explain how the agencies could be so certain that it was the Russians who hacked the email of Hillary Clintons campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Two Russian intelligence officers who worked on cyberoperations and a Russian computer security expert have been arrested and charged with treason for providing information to the United States, according to multiple Russian news reports.
As in most espionage cases, the details made public so far are incomplete, and some rumors in Moscow suggest that those arrested may be scapegoats in an internal power struggle over the hacking. Russian media reports link the charges to the disclosure of the Russian role in attacking state election boards, including the scanning of voter rolls in Arizona and Illinois, and do not mention the parallel attacks on the D.N.C. and the email of John Podesta, Mrs. Clintons campaign chairman.
But one current and one former United States official, speaking about the classified recruitments on condition of anonymity, confirmed that human sources in Russia did play a crucial role in proving who was responsible for the hacking.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/world/europe/russia-hacking-us-election.html
Gman
(24,780 posts)They didn't think twice about it. Their loyalty is to Russia.
Botany
(70,627 posts)..... Are members of Trump's team providing information to Putin and the Russians?
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Rachel Maddow just nailed it. Russia is guilty.
Earlier this month they broke a breathtaking story. In December, one of the high ranking officials in the Russian security service, in the cyber security department was attending a routine staff meeting when several armed police officers, burst in, threw a hood over his head, and dragged him from the room. That is the last anyone has seen of him, and the State charged him with treason. They then broke the story that another high ranking intelligence official, this time in counter intelligence had been fired. There was sketchy information as to whether or not the official had also been imprisoned and charged.
Rachels point was simple and concise. Russia has denied involvement all along. OK, fine. Thats your story, and youre sticking with it. But, if youre innocent, then as a nation, you dont need to do anything, there is no fire there, you didnt do anything, and nobody can prove a negative. But when you have police storm into a routine meeting, bag and wrestle out a senior cyber official, and then cashier a senior counter intelligence official in charge of making sure nobody blabs, you have just waved a giant red flag. It means that Putin has looked at the information in the dossier that the ex MI6 intelligence officer compiled on information compromising Trump, and has looked at the information in at least the public release of the combined intelligence assessment of Russian interference in the election, and he has realized that there is actually fire behind that smoke. And Putin is taking aggressive steps to stamp out that fire so that it doesnt occur again.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1625826/-Rachel-Maddow-just-nailed-it-Russia-is-guilty?detail=email&link_id=6&can_id=9d9ab9550f6f19d630ddc2d594a7bd47&source=email-al-gore-saved-a-us-climate-change-conference-that-was-abruptly-canceled-after-trumps-election&email_referrer=al-gore-saved-a-us-climate-change-conference-that-was-abruptly-canceled-after-trumps-election___159185&email_subject=the-people-have-spoken-petition-to-trump-to-release-his-tax-returns-breaks-the-all-time-record
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)The timing is right. He's coming up to speed on his National Security portfolio, finds out about them, and promptly tells his boss.
Botany
(70,627 posts)Botany
(70,627 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Google "michael flynn connection putin".
ETA: Unless you're talking about the connection between the story and the tweets. That's just a logical deduction.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)KGB at its finest.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)Now it's like "Good Fellas" to cover all ties.
Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Turbineguy
(37,386 posts)on a charge that they revealed you were spying on somebody, doesn't that indicate you were spying on somebody?
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And what is our punishment for treason?
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)I'm Canadian, so I don't know for sure about punishment, but I would expect it includes the death penalty.
I think getting a conviction on a Russian mole in this political environment would be impossible.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)demand they be extradited to the US - or they will just disappear, never to be heard from or seen again...
First they came for the communists..I remember, I was still in HS, applied to the telco, when hired, I was 17, I had to sign a form declaring I was not a communist...
I shudder to think, who is next....while our congress sits on their arse....