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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:15 PM Jun 2012

Jimmy Carter Is Spot on: "The USA is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights".

THE United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights.
By JIMMY CARTER
Published: June 24, 2012


Revelations that top officials are targeting people to be assassinated abroad, including American citizens, are only the most recent, disturbing proof of how far our nation’s violation of human rights has extended. This development began after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and has been sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions, without dissent from the general public. As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues.



Despite an arbitrary rule that any man killed by drones is declared an enemy terrorist, the death of nearby innocent women and children is accepted as inevitable. After more than 30 airstrikes on civilian homes this year in Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai has demanded that such attacks end, but the practice continues in areas of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen that are not in any war zone. We don’t know how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed in these attacks, each one approved by the highest authorities in Washington. This would have been unthinkable in previous times.



At a time when popular revolutions are sweeping the globe, the United States should be strengthening, not weakening, basic rules of law and principles of justice enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. But instead of making the world safer, America’s violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends.






http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/opinion/americas-shameful-human-rights-record.html?_r=1

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Jimmy Carter Is Spot on: "The USA is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights". (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
The GREAT LIE that tied Carter to "malaise" and "ineffectual" was the start of the party's downfall Bonobo Jun 2012 #1
+1000 EmeraldCityGrl Jun 2012 #19
President Carter, the USA HAS BEEN abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights,... Lionessa Jun 2012 #2
Wow, imagine that. The biggest warmonger is losing its human rights status. valerief Jun 2012 #3
Why give people these things called "rights" when there's profit to be had! Initech Jun 2012 #4
Sorry, James, your verb is off malthaussen Jun 2012 #5
I hate to say it Jimmy, but... BlueDemKev Jun 2012 #6
I thought the same thing. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #7
This fucked up corporate government is also abandoning the rights of US citizens. L0oniX Jun 2012 #8
Correction: HAS abandoned... cbrer Jun 2012 #9
FYI JVS Jun 2012 #10
WTF? hobbit709 Jun 2012 #11
That is hilarious. There are some seriously thin skinned folks here. morningfog Jun 2012 #13
I agree with Juror #2. naaman fletcher Jun 2012 #14
I'd like to point out the language in that alert and how fascistic it sounds. Bonobo Jun 2012 #18
All that's missing Blecht Jun 2012 #21
I was going to make a snarky and sarcastic post about bullwinkle428 Jun 2012 #23
Kinda like saying the KKK is abandoning it's role as the Champion of Integration. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #12
kr HiPointDem Jun 2012 #15
If we could have bombed a hundred drone strikes instead of invading Afghanistan Kolesar Jun 2012 #16
we did what?????? azurnoir Jun 2012 #17
Is malaise Jun 2012 #20
President Carter was correct when he pushed this in the campaign against Reagan nanabugg Jun 2012 #22

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
1. The GREAT LIE that tied Carter to "malaise" and "ineffectual" was the start of the party's downfall
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jun 2012

We allowed the greatest champion of the traditional Democratic principals in my lifetime to be branded with the above catch phrases.

This caused the Dem party to become the party of business and eschew the values at our core.

The process continues to accelerate.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
2. President Carter, the USA HAS BEEN abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights,...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jun 2012

ever since you left office. You were our last great Democratic president, those since have been merely BlueDogs.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
5. Sorry, James, your verb is off
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jun 2012

and your definition inaccurate. The US has only "championed" human rights when and where we have found it a convenient excuse for projecting our power. Where it has been in our interest to ignore human rights, we have ignored them. Within our country, as well as without.

-- Mal

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
8. This fucked up corporate government is also abandoning the rights of US citizens.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jun 2012

So uhm ...do you think they will give a shit about other countries more than our own? ...Oh stupid me ...they do care about other countries more than our own ...when it comes to having fucking military bases and missile launchers in their countries.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
9. Correction: HAS abandoned...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:48 PM
Jun 2012

It's been a while since we goose stepped into Iraq. And to this day continue inflicting the world with American military might.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
10. FYI
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:52 PM
Jun 2012

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This post is a sneaky and indirect way of attacking President Obama. With the general election season started, no attacks on Obama are to be tolerated. If you've got anything bad to say about Obama you better wait until November 7th, or you will be considered a traitor to the Democratic party and perceived to be aiding and abetting Romney and the repukes. Please hide.

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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
13. That is hilarious. There are some seriously thin skinned folks here.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jun 2012

Alerters need to be made public.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
14. I agree with Juror #2.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jun 2012

Perhaps the Mod's should add a new category when complaining about a post: "I'm butt hurt".

The other thing I hate is when two people have been going back and forth insulting each other for 10 posts, and then one gets the smack-down and hits the alert button because they lost the pissing match. One of my rules of thumb when on jury duty is that if you entered into the pissing match, you have no right to complain when you lose.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
18. I'd like to point out the language in that alert and how fascistic it sounds.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 03:25 AM
Jun 2012

This post is a sneaky and indirect way of attacking President Obama. With the general election season started, no attacks on Obama are to be tolerated. If you've got anything bad to say about Obama you better wait until November 7th, or you will be considered a traitor to the Democratic party and perceived to be aiding and abetting Romney and the repukes.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
23. I was going to make a snarky and sarcastic post about
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:18 AM
Jun 2012

how Jimmy Carter is nothing more than a tool of Free Republic these days, but apparently, someone already beat me to the punch, minus the snark and sarcasm, of course!

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
16. If we could have bombed a hundred drone strikes instead of invading Afghanistan
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:13 PM
Jun 2012

...we would have been better off than what happened in the Bush war.
----
I have seen citations of "breeding more terrorists" after a drone strike, but I never see more than a few tentative sentences and no material showing the extent to which exists. Here are a few tentative sentences:

Despite an arbitrary rule that any man killed by drones is declared an enemy terrorist, the death of nearby innocent women and children is accepted as inevitable. After more than 30 airstrikes on civilian homes this year in Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai has demanded that such attacks end, but the practice continues in areas of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen that are not in any war zone. We don’t know how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed in these attacks, each one approved by the highest authorities in Washington. This would have been unthinkable in previous times.

These policies clearly affect American foreign policy. Top intelligence and military officials, as well as rights defenders in targeted areas, affirm that the great escalation in drone attacks has turned aggrieved families toward terrorist organizations, aroused civilian populations against us and permitted repressive governments to cite such actions to justify their own despotic behavior.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. we did what??????
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jun 2012

really, we were the champion of Human Rights?

I think during the cold war we billed ourselves as the champion of world freedom, especially in places like Vietnam and Cambodia, but all that ended with the cold war, so we had to find a new enemy, so we did and this time it's one that the average American will not be as likely to see as their counterpart, as the American public came to view the Soviet public, nope no seeing them as us this time, make really foreign, seen as primitive, and make sure that no matter how horrific what we may do them is, the public sees it as either their desire (martyrdom) or not as bad as what else may happen to them, see we can kill little kids and help them too

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
22. President Carter was correct when he pushed this in the campaign against Reagan
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:13 AM
Jun 2012

and he is correct now. Human rights for the GOP is only a tool for corporate economic policy against other nations. Otherwise, they don't give a damn. Sadly, President Obama is caught in the trap of "strong on US security" and "human rights."

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