Repealing the Affordable Care Act will kill more than 43,000 people annually

[workinclasszero]

Repealing the Affordable Care Act will kill more than 43,000 people annually
The impact of Republicans' war on Obamacare is likely to be worse than anyone expects.
By David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler January 23 at 9:22 AM

Now that President Trump is in the Oval Office, thousands of American lives that were previously protected by provisions of the Affordable Care Act are in danger. For more than 30 years, we have studied how death rates are affected by changes in health-care coverage, and we’re convinced that an ACA repeal could cause tens of thousands of deaths annually.

The story is in the data: The biggest and most definitive study of what happens to death rates when Medicaid coverage is expanded, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, found that for every 455 people who gained coverage across several states, one life was saved per year. Applying that figure to even a conservative estimate of 20 million losing coverage in the event of an ACA repeal yields an estimate of 43,956 deaths annually.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/23/repealing-the-affordable-care-act-will-kill-more-than-43000-people-annually/?utm_term=.33b0dbb4a85f

[Wounded Bear]

1. Well, I suppose that will help them defund Medicare/SS, etc...

Get rid of all those taxpayers.

[workinclasszero]

3. So who should Americans fear?

2017: Foreign terrorist death toll on american citizens right here in the USA: 0

2017: Trump and republican party death toll on American citizens right here in the USA: 43,000 PER YEAR!

[Wounded Bear]

6. My post was at least in small part sarcastic....

but quite honest. After all, the best way to support Medicare/SS etc is to get people back to work and raise their wages. That would go a long way toward boosting revenue and strengthening those programs. I expect neither of those things to happen under Trump and the Repubs. There is obviously no support coming from them.

Yes, although I don't necessarily use the word fear, I do say we need to fight Trump and the Repubs.

[workinclasszero]

9. I fear a party and its leader

who will with a stroke of a pen across a sheet of paper give a death sentence to 43,000 Americans with not a thought or care because it only effects the poor.

And that's just for starters.

[ffr]

2. My premiums will go up without ACA. Calls and E-mail to my Republican representatives

have done NO GOOD.

They could give a damn!

[heaven05]

4. it's what they are aiming for

and wanting. The rich people don't won't a lot of people challenging their preeminent position in this society because those poor people are hungry and sick...the don't want to see that man or woman on the corner with a sign begging to work to eat....

[heaven05]

5. trumpgeddon is here

these poor souls are just the start of trumpfuhrers plan to thin the herd.

[workinclasszero]

10. Yup Trump and the republicans can't wait

to start killing Americans.


They have a blood lust for it. They live for this kind of shit!

Just proves again that the Republican party is a terrorist organization that targets Americans, always!

[heaven05]

15. big, big plus on that

they are first class murderers....look at shrub jr. and all the death and destruction he and his administration were responsible for and this clown boy-potus is worse times ....infinity????

[sheshe2]

13. Some of us will die quickly and painfully... some of us more slowly yet painfully as well.

That is a fact. Those that are already at risk, ie cancer patients and the like will be the first to go without continued treatments. Many without preventative care will go more slowly. You can no longer afford your blood pressure meds...well soon you will stroke out with no place to go. I guess we should pray for a massive heart attack and never awake again. That would be the kindest thing. That is the way I want to go.

The sick ones are going to multiply. The suffering will be great. The death toll will be high. I know people in healthcare. Doctors, nurses, ER's are very concerned that the escalation of incoming wounded will be overwhelming and no amount of triage will be able to save them.

Good job GOP. You will thin the herd at an alarming rate. The said 'Christian' party, the party of 'family values' are sentencing us to death and they are laughing all the way to the bank. Well, my parting shot to them is may you all roast in hell.

Go rapture yourselves.

[heaven05]

14. as I do daily

I pray to the Fates---for a peaceful end to this section of existence. I am waiting for my Medicare to be affected, don't know if they can affect my pension yet, VA will be under attack, so I don't know about those funds, but with the way the boy-potus attacked the men and women in the military during his campaign, I just don't know what to expect from that squirrely POS in the WH and/or his minions

I agree, the sick, infirm and old will suffer first THEN maybe the rest will change something when the boy-potus comes after them... With every potus I have experience with, even the raygun...I could expect some rational thought/actions, not with this child as leader of the free world. I don't have a clue except to expect the very worst tendencies of the ameriKKKan vulture/culture to reign supreme for as long as boy-potus and ryan and mcconnell are running our country.

I am so gladdened by the american women and concerned males all over the world who let the white house dwelling scum in office now know, that there will be a fight... Stay safe..

[sheshe2]

17. Well, I have to say

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Saturday was a thing of beauty. A powerful statement...the voice of so many women of all ages and colors, HEARD. The men and boys that joined us raised their voices with ours. The sheer number of people in all the marches, exceeded all expectations. We flexed our muscles... and this my friend is only the beginning.

Me thinks we should have another one very soon. We need one for our safety nets. All of them. ACA. Medicare. SS. Medicaid. VA Pensions...et al. Lyin' Ryan wants to hear from us??? No problem. We need to collectively get in their face and say NO! We will not go quietly...

Revolution... Singing songs and carrying signs!

Here is a link to action... I plan to start sending out postcards as well. They want to bury us? Well I say we bury them with all social media, emails, letters and getting up front and personal.

https://www.womensmarch.com/100

Ya, you. Stay safe as well.

[Jim Beard]

7. He has to pay for his tax cuts so all other things are one the......

chopping block. It has never worked in the past and we will need a Democrat Congress and re-raise taxes.

[aikoaiko]

8. This type of stat always confused me, because we all die eventually.

I get what they are trying to say (i.e., coverage delays death and suffering), but the rate of death stays the same in the long run, doesn't it?

[sheshe2]

12. I don't understand you here,

I get what they are trying to say (i.e., coverage delays death and suffering), but the rate of death stays the same in the long run, doesn't it?

Coverage does not delay death it extends a life. We all have a right to live. A person with cancer, say a treatable cancer should be able to seek the help they need? They should not be told to go away and die, painfully without any medical assistance? If people can not receive preventative care ie blood pressure meds, mammograms, all cancer screenings you sentence them to death with out an attempt to help them. Break a bone, suffer. Get pneumonia, man up. Child shoots a 105 degree temp, so they die because they have no place to go without insurance.

When they take away their healthcare where do you think they are going to go. They will go to an ER seeking help. Some hospitals will not treat you without insurance. Some will. How do you think they will be paying for those treated. Yes, the tax payers because the fully covered politicians took it away from 30M people.

Bodies are going to be stacking up at an alarming rate.

[aikoaiko]

16. It was more a statistical question than a policy question

I completely support a single payer system for all.

My question was about the use of rate as a measure.

If 43000 more people die this year that means 43000 fewer people die in subsequent years. It seems like the rate stays the same.

[jeanmarc]

11. Yeah, but Clinton Death List, Benghazi, and Vince Foster

Real hardcore numbers on a willful want to kill people and the same suspects aren't making a new death list.

[csziggy]

18. Re-instating the Mexico City Policy will kill tens of thousands world wide

Old statistics (2008) but now that Trump has put this back into effect the world will return to these numbers:

Each year, 19 million women risk their lives to undergo unsafe abortions because the procedure is illegal, severely restricted, or difficult to access. Of women who undergo unsafe abortions, as many as 80 percent face illness, injury, or disability. Globally, unsafe abortions account for approximately 68,000 deaths annually and 13 percent of all pregnancy-related deaths. As alarming as these global statistics are, the situation for refugees and internally displaced women is especially dire due to lack of access to proper facilities and services. Since refugees and internally displaced persons are in similar positions with regard to reproductive health and unsafe abortions, this paper will refer to both populations as “refugees.” A 1999 report by the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates that “25 to 50 per-cent of maternal deaths in refugee settings are due to complications resulting from unsafe abortions.” In addition, many who survive live with the effects of severe complications, including incomplete abortion, sepsis, hemorrhage, and intra-abdominal injury or long-term health problems such as chronic pelvic inflammatory disease, tubal blockage, or secondary infertility.
http://www.iar-gwu.org/node/64

Estimates for what will happen in fourth paragraph quoted:

Here's What the Mexico City Policy Means for Women
Alexandra Sifferlin
Jan 23, 2017

Two days after millions of women around the world marched on behalf of women's rights, President Donald Trump reinstated the Mexico City Policy.

In an executive order, Trump reinstated the rule on Monday. The Mexico City Policy prohibits foreign aid from the U.S. to be given to any nongovernmental organization (NGO) abroad that discusses abortion as a family-planning option. Currently, taxpayer dollars cannot be used to fund abortion procedures in other countries, but the order expands that oversight and also prohibits organizations from receiving U.S. family planning funding if they offer abortion counseling or advocate for abortion rights in other countries — even if the medical procedure is legal in that country.

The rule has gone back and forth between Administrations since it was first introduced in 1984 at the U.N. International Conference on Population held in Mexico City. In 2009, former President Barack Obama revoked the ruling as one of his first executive actions. It had been reinstated by former President George W. Bush after Bill Clinton's Administration and was first introduced by former President Ronald Reagan.

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Marie Stopes International, a nonprofit reproductive-health group, said on Monday that it will not agree to the conditions, and therefore will no longer receive USAID funding. Until Monday, the group said it partnered with USAID to provide voluntary contraceptive services to millions of women and girls across Africa and Asia. Without the funding, the group says the loss of its services during Trump's first term could result in 6.5 million unintended pregnancies, 2.2 million abortions, 2.1 million unsafe abortions and 21,700 maternal deaths.

More: http://time.com/4644042/mexico-city-policy-abortion-womens-health/

[wiggs]

19. A 9/11 every month. nt