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Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:04 PM Nov 2016

Fed Court orders special election of entire NC legislature in 2017 due to gerrymandering

A federal court on Tuesday ordered North Carolina to hold a special legislative election next year after 28 state House and Senate districts are redrawn to comply with a gerrymandering ruling.

U.S. District Court judges earlier this year threw out the current legislative district map, ruling that 28 of them were unconstitutional racial gerrymanders. They allowed the 2016 election to continue under the old maps, but ordered legislators to draw new districts in 2017.

Tuesday’s order settled the question of whether the new districts would take effect for the regularly scheduled 2018 election cycle, or if a special election would be required.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article117843388.html#storylink=cpy

This is where our comeback begins. This year we won the governor's office (not official yet). Next year we have a chance to at least seriously dent the super-majority of the Republicans in the state legislature. I am definitely going to get involved in the election in my first year as a North Carolinian. Gotta bring a little bit of Jersey to my new home.

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Fed Court orders special election of entire NC legislature in 2017 due to gerrymandering (Original Post) Jersey Devil Nov 2016 OP
make sure to have a dem candidate in EVERY race at every level nt msongs Nov 2016 #1
absolutely a must Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #2
DU nation can target this for our 2017 stand. Just like GOP did in 2009 targeting blm Nov 2016 #3
Works for me. wildeyed Nov 2016 #5
target drawn ... and Berger ... and Brawley. blm Nov 2016 #6
Stop, you are making me drool.... wildeyed Nov 2016 #7
It's a whole new ballgame now. blm Nov 2016 #8
We can use the bathroom law against the super-majority Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #12
How do "normal" people feel about McCrory dragging out wildeyed Nov 2016 #16
First have President Obama place Garland at SCOTUS... Aimee in OKC Nov 2016 #11
And a Trump Court... Akbar Nov 2016 #13
the Senate will not recess, so no chance Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #21
January 3, 2017 ... per Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #22
kick Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #4
Thanks for helping share the good news. littlemissmartypants Nov 2016 #9
K&R Sunny05 Nov 2016 #10
Most truly very excellent! Hit it people! Hard! lonestarnot Nov 2016 #14
Whoa! progressoid Nov 2016 #15
What prevents them from just not complying? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #17
I'm sure they will try not to comply Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #18
Are you sure? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #20
I hate fighting to get back what we never should have lost. Iggo Nov 2016 #19

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
2. absolutely a must
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:09 PM
Nov 2016

As a new voter in NC this year I was shocked to see the ballot in which there were several offices with Republicans up for election and no Democratic opposition. Though I live in a Republican county I am going to get active with the Dems and speak out, if necessary, about the importance of filling every slot.

blm

(113,065 posts)
3. DU nation can target this for our 2017 stand. Just like GOP did in 2009 targeting
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:29 PM
Nov 2016

Kennedy's seat and bulldozing their way thru Mass to put Scott Brown in the senate. The media went crazy with the narrative of Dems being repudiated so soon after a big win.

We can take the majority in NC with fairly drawn districts.

Game on?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
5. Works for me.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:45 PM
Nov 2016

Let's take Dan Bishop down He deserves more it than most after what he did to his own city with the HB2 nonsense.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
7. Stop, you are making me drool....
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:53 PM
Nov 2016

How many seats do we need to bust the super majority? It was four, but I think we got two this year?

blm

(113,065 posts)
8. It's a whole new ballgame now.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:02 PM
Nov 2016

We can take the majority if we focus intently. A lot of Republicans are still mad at Brawley and Berger for the toll lanes.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
12. We can use the bathroom law against the super-majority
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:17 AM
Nov 2016

I moved to NC in June and noticed right away that NC residents were super pissed off about losing all the college sports tournaments due to the bathroom law. Dems in NC should propose repeal and if the Repubs refuse, use it against them like a hammer. It worked to get rid of McCrory and if it gets their sports back I bet it would work for the legislature

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
16. How do "normal" people feel about McCrory dragging out
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 01:00 PM
Nov 2016

his election? People in my feeds are super-pissed, but they hated him to start. If average voters are annoyed, then we might be able to use that too.

Aimee in OKC

(158 posts)
11. First have President Obama place Garland at SCOTUS...
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:15 AM
Nov 2016

His recess appointment would last only a year but would be immensely useful.

From the linked article, about the appeal:

Republican legislators who oversee redistricting blasted the decision in a news release Tuesday evening.

“This politically-motivated decision, which would effectively undo the will of millions of North Carolinians just days after they cast their ballots, is a gross overreach that blatantly disregards the constitutional guarantee for voters to duly elect their legislators to biennial terms,” Rep. David Lewis and Sen. Bob Rucho said in the release, adding that they have already appealed the original U.S. District Court ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

If the Supreme Court hears the case and overturns the ruling, the special election would be canceled and current districts restored for the 2018 election.

Akbar

(307 posts)
13. And a Trump Court...
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:36 AM
Nov 2016

...who will absolutely take this case on, will take this chance to rule that the right to republ gerrymandering trumps the right of minorities to have their votes counted.

Aimee in OKC

(158 posts)
22. January 3, 2017 ... per Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:06 AM
Dec 2016

According to this author (David Dayen). I don't know anything about him, but he did bring out what might be a point concerning a recess on January 3.
* * * * * * *

"Obama can appoint his nominee Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court on that date, in between the two sessions of Congress."

"Why January 3? Because the president’s recess appointment powers were significantly constrained by a 2014 Supreme Court ruling. In a 9-0 decision in National Labor Relations Board v. Noel Canning, the Court said the president cannot appoint individuals to fill vacancies if the Senate holds “pro forma” sessions every three days. Though these sessions, common since 2011, merely gavel in and gavel out the Senate chamber, they have the practical effect of keeping the Senate active, therefore blocking the recess appointment power.

But even the Court’s most conservative members acknowledged that a president can make recess appointments during “inter-session” recesses—such as the break between the first and second year of a Congress, or the break between outgoing or incoming Congresses. There simply has to be an end point there, as a metaphysical matter. Theodore Roosevelt once used a short inter-session recess to make hundreds of appointments."

https://newrepublic.com/article/138787/obama-can-put-merrick-garland-supreme-court

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
18. I'm sure they will try not to comply
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 01:07 PM
Nov 2016

since the same legislature that gave use the gerrymandered districts will be drawing the new ones, but they will, at a minimum, have to do it in a way that is not completely outrageous, which will lead to an advantage for us.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
20. Are you sure?
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 01:12 PM
Nov 2016

Can they pack the court instead, to avoid the problem (from their POV)? Can they literally refuse to do it, like Karl Rove literally refused, with no consequences I'm aware of, to comply with a legally-issued subpoena?

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
19. I hate fighting to get back what we never should have lost.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 01:09 PM
Nov 2016

We should be moving forward, but we're fighting to get back to zero.

Comeback! Yay!

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