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More Delegates Want to Join Repub Revolt
SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) - In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit.
The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first.
The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee.
They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.
"When nominating someone for a federal office, all delegates must be free to vote their conscience," Richard Gilbert, of Gilbert & Marlowe, attorney for the delegates, told Courthouse News in an interview Thursday.
"They don't want to be bound to any candidate, or even be forced to vote for the nominee," Gilbert said. "To have a real convention, the delegates must have free will so that when they meet, they can persuade each other and then decide who to vote for."
Gilbert said that the public is unaware that the party is rigging elections and committing voting fraud. But he said he has more than 100 signed affidavits from delegates to support these allegations.
"Some campaigns act like organized crime syndicates - and I mean organized crime, no doubt about it," Gilbert said.
"In Arizona, the voting machines were rigged so that Ron Paul votes were counted as Mitt Romney votes. It was so intentional that a Romney delegate refused to certify the vote count, and for that he got thrown off the convention."
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/15/47495.htm
Read the comments here. Pretty amusing.
GOP Delegates Sue To Ditch Romney
Not surprisingly, Ron Paul is behind this.
In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit. The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first. The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee. They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.
The lawyer behind the suit claims: "If the judge rules in our favor, I won't be surprised if three or four new candidates, say Sarah Palin, jump in and say they want to be considered."
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/06/gop-delegates-sue-to-ditch-romney.html
MADem
(135,425 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)left on green only
(1,484 posts)And I'm not just tawking about those whoaas on Turdy Turd St.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...is Gaylord B. Parkinson's, via Ronald Reagan, "11th Commandment" falling off its 47-year-old pedestal.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)otherone
(973 posts)Ron Paul must go on..
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)May his wheedling, nasal tones fill the convention!
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)They don't give a shit about election fraud unless it cuts Ron Paul. There was no peep from the same people in previous elections, and they're universally dismissive of the recent irregularities in Wisconsin.
Counting on Ron Paul or his supporters to do anything more useful than providing walking, talking examples of racism and misogyny are going to fail.
The only way the election fraud is going to be looked at is if a government official wins and demands that it be looked into. One who loses and calls fraud is just dismissed as "sour grapes." And since our fucked-up political system puts every candidate for every office back into campaign mode almost as soon as the vote count is in, the odds of this ever happening are tragically slim.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Not until some smartass steals the election back and the results don't match what the corporate powers paid for, will anything be given a serious examination.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I love it!
longship
(40,416 posts)I have been posting about this for the last couple of days -- since the IA state Repub convention.
Ron Paul, and his Ayn Rand cult followers, are doing something here that we should all be paying attention to.
I have no idea what this means, or what Paul is doing. But it seems to be a repeated pattern. IA, AK, ME, OK, AZ, others, and now CA.
I have no knowledge of what this means, and certainly am not suggesting some grand conspiracy. But it does seem likely that the Ayn Randists have something up their sleeve.
In the 70's and the 80's the Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and then Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition basically took over the Republican Party from the bottom up by running their people as delegates at the precinct level. As one of many Democratic party delegates through parts of this period, we saw these things happen to our opposition before our very eyes. The result is the authoritarian, religiously-bent Republican party we see today.
I am very curious of what Paul and his Rand followers-on are doing. They have a strategy here. What might it be?
Please! No conspiracy theories.
* What are the facts here?
* How many states is he doing this?
* How many delegates could Paul actually have in Tampa?
* Could he have enough to nullify Rmoney's presumptive nomination? (N.B., I do not for a second think that he is going for the nomination himself, nor that he has anywhere near the number of delegates to achieve that goal.)
* What is his goal? Please bring data to bear to support any speculations.
I think these events may be important. I have my own speculations, but I will keep them to myself because I am more interested in facts than more speculations.
Thank you to everybody.
FSogol
(45,484 posts)Data? His entire political career.
Initech
(100,070 posts)left on green only
(1,484 posts)aren't the delegates supposed to vote for whoever the majority of the voters in their districts tell them to vote for? I mean, what is the use of even having an election? It would be so much easier for their party if the NRA just came into town and chose a candidate.
Gman
(24,780 posts)with the understanding they would vote for Romney. That's like, .... THE RULES!!
These people literally make it up as they go along.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Telling them that they have to vote for a Bishop in a Church which preaches that every (Mormon) is equal to God is like asking them to take a piss on the Ten Commandments.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Its the fact that the Mormon church is/was poaching persons who might otherwise be tithing to their churches instead.
Thus the decades or more of indoctrinating the fleeced that Mormonism is a cult and a threat to everyone's very soul. Its kinda fun trying to watch them try and figure this one out. 20 years ago, I would guess that for most evangelicals the Mormons were a far greater threat to Christianity(and therefore America) than anyone else, even the communists or the Muslims.
siligut
(12,272 posts)I say let them at it. The Republicans don't have a candidate that can legitimately compete with Obama, but the Romney camp is going to try to buy a win.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)split that vote!
malaise
(268,993 posts)fraud. Come on ReTHUGs - eat one another in public
Tampa is going to be delish!
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)They even steal their own elections...
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)He'll bleed so many votes from the GOP that Obama will win by a landslide!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They weren't forced to enter into this voluntary, private association. They could have refused to sign that contract and held their own convention. They wanted to hitch a ride on the GOP money train. Too bad they didn't get to have their cake and eat it, too. We'll see out the show plays out.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)If Republicans start to think for themselves it may not be good for us. They may decide to run a popular moderate which might give Pres Obama a run for the money.
GObamaGO
(665 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)Mooselini Palin?
Crispy Creme Christy?
Vaginal Probe McDonnell?
Susan Collins?
In the rushpublican world Mittens IS about as "popular" a moderate this corrupt and inept party can run. Anything that distracts from the lies and buying of the election by turning the angst inward is a good thing. I'd love to see Tampa turn into a mudfight with the Paulbots creating all sorts of mayhem...so the more of 'em the better...
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)and even he wouldn't fare much better than Rmoney. He may help carry Florida but that's about it. I honestly believe he's not interested...he saw what a meatgrinder the job was on his father and brother...in fact I've never heard him express any interest; it's always been projected by others. He's making tons of money and enjoys a nice private life...why ruin it for one of the most thankless and fatiguing jobs ever.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)You do realize the R's who don't want Rmoney are mostly those who think he's too liberal, right?
Julie
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)You know that they have already rejected The Newt, Ron Paul, Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Huntsman, Pawlenty, Perry, and Slimy Santorum?
Who would you like to see them choose now?
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And considering how they are turning on themselves, I don't think it really matters. I find it all terribly amusing though, don't you?
Julie
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)crucial part of our democracy. If the Republican party implodes completely we will be left with a one party government. I know that some would be in heaven because they love all Democrats even if they are Republicans in Democrat clothing. I want to see the end to the Patriot Act, the Bush tax cuts, the wars, etc. I am not convinced that a conservative Democratic party will give me that.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Ignoring the will of the majority, and perjury charges for violating a "loyalty oath"?
So much for governing by consensus. This is a party full of authoritarian control freaks and egomaniacs.
Whoops, gotta go....my truck full of popcorn is just backing up into the driveway.
mac56
(17,567 posts)Sorry, it just had to be said.