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WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:03 PM Jun 2012

More Delegates Want to Join Repub Revolt

More Delegates Want to Join Repub Revolt

SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) - In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit.
The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first.
The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee.
They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.
"When nominating someone for a federal office, all delegates must be free to vote their conscience," Richard Gilbert, of Gilbert & Marlowe, attorney for the delegates, told Courthouse News in an interview Thursday.
"They don't want to be bound to any candidate, or even be forced to vote for the nominee," Gilbert said. "To have a real convention, the delegates must have free will so that when they meet, they can persuade each other and then decide who to vote for."
Gilbert said that the public is unaware that the party is rigging elections and committing voting fraud. But he said he has more than 100 signed affidavits from delegates to support these allegations.
"Some campaigns act like organized crime syndicates - and I mean organized crime, no doubt about it," Gilbert said.
"In Arizona, the voting machines were rigged so that Ron Paul votes were counted as Mitt Romney votes. It was so intentional that a Romney delegate refused to certify the vote count, and for that he got thrown off the convention."

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/15/47495.htm

Read the comments here. Pretty amusing.

GOP Delegates Sue To Ditch Romney

Not surprisingly, Ron Paul is behind this.

In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit. The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first. The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee. They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.

The lawyer behind the suit claims: "If the judge rules in our favor, I won't be surprised if three or four new candidates, say Sarah Palin, jump in and say they want to be considered."

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/06/gop-delegates-sue-to-ditch-romney.html

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More Delegates Want to Join Repub Revolt (Original Post) WillParkinson Jun 2012 OP
Gee, ya basstids--it really SUCKS when someone takes away your VOTE, doesn't it? nt MADem Jun 2012 #1
+ Infinity with a cherry on top. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #8
Love it! Where I come from in New Yawk, they say beestids. left on green only Jun 2012 #12
That crashing sound you hear... KansDem Jun 2012 #2
they should be encouraged, the side show must go on. Historic NY Jun 2012 #3
I think you are on to something.. otherone Jun 2012 #4
I support Ron Paul for Republican Spoiler 2012! Scootaloo Jun 2012 #5
Much more importantly, poeple need to pay attention to the election fraud happening in our country. robinlynne Jun 2012 #7
I know plenty of earnest Ron Paul supporters Scootaloo Jun 2012 #10
Naw. Not even then quakerboy Jun 2012 #22
cool! Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Pay attention America. robinlynne Jun 2012 #6
Wow, this could get serious. sufrommich Jun 2012 #9
Something skwewy is goin' on longship Jun 2012 #11
Paul's "strategy" is the same as always. Fleece the rubes for as much $$$ as possible. FSogol Jun 2012 #21
Pass the butter - the coming implosion is gonna be fun to watch! Initech Jun 2012 #13
I realize this is a novel idea, but left on green only Jun 2012 #14
They likely ran for their delegate positions as pledged delegates and were elected Gman Jun 2012 #15
It is not just Ron Paul. Mormons are polytheists. I don't care, but a bunch of fundies do. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #16
to be fair, its not the polytheism thats at the root of the disagreement. quakerboy Jun 2012 #23
Exposing the Romney team's strong-arm tactics and voter fraud siligut Jun 2012 #17
go ron paul! Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #18
ReTHUGs are the kings and queens of voter malaise Jun 2012 #19
Good grief! Spirochete Jun 2012 #20
I hope Ron Paul takes off as a third part candidate. Zalatix Jun 2012 #24
Tsk, tsk. After all, they signed on the dotted line per their own words: freshwest Jun 2012 #25
I dont think this is a good thing. We want Rmoney as their candidate. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #26
That is my thinking as well. GObamaGO Jun 2012 #27
And This Popular Candidate Is?? KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #29
Jeb Bush. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #30
He Said He Won't Run... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #32
lolz Funny. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #31
If you dont want Rmoney as their candidate, who do you want? rhett o rick Jun 2012 #34
Actually I don't care. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #35
Actually I think it is very series. I believe in the two party system is a rhett o rick Jun 2012 #36
Boy, they really hate democracy, don't they? Canuckistanian Jun 2012 #28
The Republicans are revolting! mac56 Jun 2012 #33

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
12. Love it! Where I come from in New Yawk, they say beestids.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jun 2012

And I'm not just tawking about those whoaas on Turdy Turd St.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. That crashing sound you hear...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:11 PM
Jun 2012

...is Gaylord B. Parkinson's, via Ronald Reagan, "11th Commandment" falling off its 47-year-old pedestal.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
10. I know plenty of earnest Ron Paul supporters
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jun 2012

They don't give a shit about election fraud unless it cuts Ron Paul. There was no peep from the same people in previous elections, and they're universally dismissive of the recent irregularities in Wisconsin.

Counting on Ron Paul or his supporters to do anything more useful than providing walking, talking examples of racism and misogyny are going to fail.

The only way the election fraud is going to be looked at is if a government official wins and demands that it be looked into. One who loses and calls fraud is just dismissed as "sour grapes." And since our fucked-up political system puts every candidate for every office back into campaign mode almost as soon as the vote count is in, the odds of this ever happening are tragically slim.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
22. Naw. Not even then
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:41 PM
Jun 2012

Not until some smartass steals the election back and the results don't match what the corporate powers paid for, will anything be given a serious examination.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Something skwewy is goin' on
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:34 PM
Jun 2012

I have been posting about this for the last couple of days -- since the IA state Repub convention.

Ron Paul, and his Ayn Rand cult followers, are doing something here that we should all be paying attention to.

I have no idea what this means, or what Paul is doing. But it seems to be a repeated pattern. IA, AK, ME, OK, AZ, others, and now CA.

I have no knowledge of what this means, and certainly am not suggesting some grand conspiracy. But it does seem likely that the Ayn Randists have something up their sleeve.

In the 70's and the 80's the Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and then Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition basically took over the Republican Party from the bottom up by running their people as delegates at the precinct level. As one of many Democratic party delegates through parts of this period, we saw these things happen to our opposition before our very eyes. The result is the authoritarian, religiously-bent Republican party we see today.

I am very curious of what Paul and his Rand followers-on are doing. They have a strategy here. What might it be?

Please! No conspiracy theories.

* What are the facts here?

* How many states is he doing this?

* How many delegates could Paul actually have in Tampa?

* Could he have enough to nullify Rmoney's presumptive nomination? (N.B., I do not for a second think that he is going for the nomination himself, nor that he has anywhere near the number of delegates to achieve that goal.)

* What is his goal? Please bring data to bear to support any speculations.

I think these events may be important. I have my own speculations, but I will keep them to myself because I am more interested in facts than more speculations.

Thank you to everybody.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
21. Paul's "strategy" is the same as always. Fleece the rubes for as much $$$ as possible.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jun 2012

Data? His entire political career.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
14. I realize this is a novel idea, but
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:49 PM
Jun 2012

aren't the delegates supposed to vote for whoever the majority of the voters in their districts tell them to vote for? I mean, what is the use of even having an election? It would be so much easier for their party if the NRA just came into town and chose a candidate.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
15. They likely ran for their delegate positions as pledged delegates and were elected
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jun 2012

with the understanding they would vote for Romney. That's like, .... THE RULES!!

These people literally make it up as they go along.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
16. It is not just Ron Paul. Mormons are polytheists. I don't care, but a bunch of fundies do.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jun 2012

Telling them that they have to vote for a Bishop in a Church which preaches that every (Mormon) is equal to God is like asking them to take a piss on the Ten Commandments.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
23. to be fair, its not the polytheism thats at the root of the disagreement.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jun 2012

Its the fact that the Mormon church is/was poaching persons who might otherwise be tithing to their churches instead.

Thus the decades or more of indoctrinating the fleeced that Mormonism is a cult and a threat to everyone's very soul. Its kinda fun trying to watch them try and figure this one out. 20 years ago, I would guess that for most evangelicals the Mormons were a far greater threat to Christianity(and therefore America) than anyone else, even the communists or the Muslims.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
17. Exposing the Romney team's strong-arm tactics and voter fraud
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jun 2012

I say let them at it. The Republicans don't have a candidate that can legitimately compete with Obama, but the Romney camp is going to try to buy a win.

malaise

(268,993 posts)
19. ReTHUGs are the kings and queens of voter
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jun 2012

fraud. Come on ReTHUGs - eat one another in public
Tampa is going to be delish!

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
24. I hope Ron Paul takes off as a third part candidate.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jun 2012

He'll bleed so many votes from the GOP that Obama will win by a landslide!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. Tsk, tsk. After all, they signed on the dotted line per their own words:
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jun 2012
The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee.

They weren't forced to enter into this voluntary, private association. They could have refused to sign that contract and held their own convention. They wanted to hitch a ride on the GOP money train. Too bad they didn't get to have their cake and eat it, too. We'll see out the show plays out.



 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
26. I dont think this is a good thing. We want Rmoney as their candidate.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:12 AM
Jun 2012

If Republicans start to think for themselves it may not be good for us. They may decide to run a popular moderate which might give Pres Obama a run for the money.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
29. And This Popular Candidate Is??
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:55 AM
Jun 2012

Mooselini Palin?
Crispy Creme Christy?
Vaginal Probe McDonnell?
Susan Collins?

In the rushpublican world Mittens IS about as "popular" a moderate this corrupt and inept party can run. Anything that distracts from the lies and buying of the election by turning the angst inward is a good thing. I'd love to see Tampa turn into a mudfight with the Paulbots creating all sorts of mayhem...so the more of 'em the better...

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
32. He Said He Won't Run...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:06 AM
Jun 2012

and even he wouldn't fare much better than Rmoney. He may help carry Florida but that's about it. I honestly believe he's not interested...he saw what a meatgrinder the job was on his father and brother...in fact I've never heard him express any interest; it's always been projected by others. He's making tons of money and enjoys a nice private life...why ruin it for one of the most thankless and fatiguing jobs ever.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
31. lolz Funny.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:03 AM
Jun 2012

You do realize the R's who don't want Rmoney are mostly those who think he's too liberal, right?

Julie

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
34. If you dont want Rmoney as their candidate, who do you want?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:48 AM
Jun 2012

You know that they have already rejected The Newt, Ron Paul, Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Huntsman, Pawlenty, Perry, and Slimy Santorum?

Who would you like to see them choose now?

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
35. Actually I don't care.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jun 2012

And considering how they are turning on themselves, I don't think it really matters. I find it all terribly amusing though, don't you?

Julie

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
36. Actually I think it is very series. I believe in the two party system is a
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:16 PM
Jun 2012

crucial part of our democracy. If the Republican party implodes completely we will be left with a one party government. I know that some would be in heaven because they love all Democrats even if they are Republicans in Democrat clothing. I want to see the end to the Patriot Act, the Bush tax cuts, the wars, etc. I am not convinced that a conservative Democratic party will give me that.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
28. Boy, they really hate democracy, don't they?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:20 AM
Jun 2012

Ignoring the will of the majority, and perjury charges for violating a "loyalty oath"?

So much for governing by consensus. This is a party full of authoritarian control freaks and egomaniacs.

Whoops, gotta go....my truck full of popcorn is just backing up into the driveway.

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