The Truth is Out There - and JPR has it!

[NanceGreggs]

I went to JPR to read what’s REALLY going on. Some enlightening comments here:

“DOS attacks correspond with Ecuador Embassy attack. Too coordinated. Too coincidental. Too massive. Fascist pigs!”

“The desperation is palpable. Pretty obvious that the DDOS and the Assange situation are linked, and it thus follows that the US government is the source of the DDOS.”

“I imagine it's site-specific, with a few other major ones thrown in to make it look like it’s just a major, haphazard attack. So proud that this tiny, nearly-brand-new site has been included.”

“If the DNC wasn't scared, they wouldn't be doing this shit.”

“Idiotic is the only word that comes to mind to describe Assange’s penchant to announce beforehand what he plans to release. Had he just released whatever he has on Brazille and Kaine without the announcement, I’m willing to bet the internet would not be under attack today.”

“Yet access to "the DUmp" is just fine. Hmm … imagine that.”

Along with the above, the other top CTs on JPR today are: Assange was scooped-up in the middle of the night and is on his way to the States, OR Assange has been assassinated by … wait for it … Pamela Anderson, who recently visited him and brought him a vegan sandwich that was apparently laced with poison.

They say you "can't make this shit up" - but if you do, you'll find a captive audience on JPR that's willing to believe every word of it.

BTW, the posters who are convinced that JPR was specifically targeted (because we all know how influential it is) are completely ignoring the fact that the site admins had a warning up yesterday morning saying the site would be off-line intermittently while upgrades were made.

[JI7]

1. there is an article about trump wanting revenge in LBN

that one is more about business relationships. But I'm not surprised he would do the same in these type of cases.

[radical noodle]

12. It's probably Barron

I hear he is good with those computer things.

[JI7]

17. this reply was supposed to be in the salma hayak thread

[sufrommich]

2. Isn't Wikileaks taking credit for the attack? nt

[mcar]

3. This is bat sh1t crazy stuff

Completely deranged. I am embarrassed for them as I was watching Trump last night. So much of a piece.

[Hortensis]

21. Yes. I waver between irritation, amusement, and sadness.

The last because apparently normal people can do this to themselves by associating with others on somewhat extreme sites, which develop and reinforce increasingly irrational viewpoints. They were circling the drain not all that long ago, and these are now noises from deep in the pipes. Will they ever find their way back? Possibly, if relatives cut their internet...

[ismnotwasm]

4. I am always curious about folks who think like that

How ever I explain that behavior and belief systems to myself, most are not actually "crazy"--except, you know, when they actually are.

Although people who believe in conspiracy theories may be dismissed or derided by some people as “crazy,” the prevalence of conspiracy theories in American culture and the rest of the world suggests that most people who believe in conspiracy theories are not experiencing some kind of psychopathology. For its part, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders draws no direct link between belief in conspiracy theories and mental health issues. However, some people who believe intensely or even casually in conspiracy theories may also be experiencing mental health issues such as paranoia, schizophrenia, narcissism, delusions, anxiety, or trust issues that affect their everyday lives. Some of these issues have been found to be more prevalent among people who believe in conspiracy theories.

http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/are-people-who-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-crazy-0423157

That weird dude who got banned from here, who started that place--the one who thought he was a satirist? Mandy or something? He's a film flam man of the narcissistic type would be my guess.

[sheshe2]

7. Mandy or something..........

I have no clue.... Who you mean.

[Hekate]

18. You mean the guy who thought there were 3 diverging paths or somesuch? Real satirist, that one...

I thought I had one or two sitings here under slightly different names, but now I think he mostly lurks and goes bwahaha.

I could be wrong. Totally.

[sheshe2]

20. watermelons....

fried chicken...black history month. Hmmm.

[NanceGreggs]

8. The paranoia is off the scale there.

They're constantly saying that Hillary & The Dems are using "scare tactics" to make people vote for her by pointing out what a disaster a Trump presidency would be.

But in the same breath, they keep telling people not to vote for Hillary, because she's already planning to start a war with Russia - and they know that for a fact, because Jill Stein told them so.

[NanceGreggs]

10. Hard to believe ...

... you could forget the name Manny Goldstein, being as his brilliant satire always goes viral and is reproduced on websites all over the 'net.

I have no explanation for why that doesn't show up on Google, which only shows his stuff being limited to JPR and his own blog.

But then, according to JPR, Google is part of the vast conspiracy to ensure HRC's election, and therefore eliminates any anti-HRC/anti-Dem stories to keep people ignorant of the truth. No doubt Manny G's incredible popularity as a satirist has been deliberately quashed.

[ismnotwasm]

11. Oh yeah!

I tried not to pay too much attention to that guy--he reminded me of one of those little dogs that never shut up, except, he didn't, of course have the redeeming value of a certain cuteness. Nasty dude.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

34. He always posted rather bizzare stuff

I think he desired attention like some little kid.

[Odin2005]

28. Populism and conspiracy theories often go hand in hand.

Some may have psychiatric issues, but most don't. It is a common human failing to look for people and groups of people to blame for impersonal socioeconomic and cultural forces. Philosopher Karl Popper compared this tendency to how ancient people blamed anything bad that happened as being the result of the anger of the gods, except now we blame "The Establishment", or "The Corporatists", or "Cultural Marxists" or "The Jews" rather than the gods.

[geek tragedy]

5. Sad, cretinous little Trumpers nt

[tarheelsunc]

6. I hadn't been to JPR in several months...

I just decided to take a look over there and couldn't help but notice that they blatantly stole DU's design. How long has it been since they changed from 5th-grader design they used before?

[sheshe2]

9. They do a lot of upgrades there.

They started in Kindergarten. Pretty sure the upgrade will advance them to 3rd grade. No, no, no they are not that smart. They after all loooooves Trump.

Progressives?

[BainsBane]

14. Don't forget that the DNC is going to replace Hillary with Bernie

because she lost the debates and is doing so terribly in the campaign.


The stupidity over there is truly unparalleled.

[GulfCoast66]

15. Has he healed up

After Hillary had her goons beat him up to get his endorsement?

There are many there who TRUELY believe that happened. At first I thought they were just trolling but came to realize that the emotions politics engender can actually cause some people to slip into some kind of mental crisis.

I truly hope they can get help because they cannot be happy and successful people and be so disillusioned.

[TrekLuver]

55. These Pine Forest Radicals need to be clear cut and burned..or berned....LOL ....

Wow they are a fucked up bunch over there. I'm not sure what they represent and I don't think they do either.

[Hekate]

16. That's actually really sad. How many embittered undemocratic spinoffs from DU does that make now?

[hfojvt]

64. What seems even sadder to me

Is that with a quick perusal of this thread and scanning GD over there.

It seems kinda like the bitter, hateful people are here.

Over there I see names of people I think of as old friends, and they are not flinging poo all of the time http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/whenever-i-think-ive-had-enough-of-you-people/

[Hekate]

66. You didn't answer my question, but I'm sure your old friends will be back here Nov 9....

I've been wondering if the current peace-inducing TOS will still apply after the votes are counted. 'Cause I've got to tell ya, hiding out in the BOG for nearly 8 years and being mocked for admiring our DEMOCRATIC president and wanting to give him a chance, got old after awhile.

Peace be to all persons of good will -- but note it takes both sides to make that happen.

[all american girl]

22. I want to believe....

no, not really.

[Gothmog]

23. The JPR Idiots will believe any conspiracy theory

[greatauntoftriplets]

26. And if there isn't one...

they'll make one up!

If I forget they're being serious over there, I can read it as bad comedy.

[pampango]

47. And there is no shortage of CT's from right wing sites like Breitbart, Infowars and RedState (just

name a few) that get posted at JPR. If questioned about the source and lack of verification, the response is that "left wing media" has been coopted and only the right wing media can be trusted now. Hence the support for Breitbart, Infowars, RedState, etc. Hatred can make you do funny things.

[sufrommich]

24. This one is even nuttier:

They're quoting Mike Cernovich,who is a completely insane "men's rights activist":

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/has-anyone-noticed-whether-the-writing-style-of-wikileaks-has-changed/

Mike Cernovich
Mike Cernovich is an “alt-right” activist who operates the website Danger & Play.

The site publishes numerous articles, essays, and audio recordings that attack feminists, "SJWs," (social justice warriors) and disputes the validity of date rape claims. Some headlines from Danger & Play include "Matriarchy has Created a False Rape Culture" and "Feminists Don't Care About Rape."

On his Twitter accounts, Cernovich has dismissed the possibility of date rape, writing, “the hotter the sex, the more closely it resembles rape,” “the only rape culture is Muslim rape culture,” and asking “why should I care when women are raped?”

Cernovich has promoted the false rumor that Hillary Clinton is suffering from health problems and also promoted a long-debunked conspiracy theory that Clinton aide Huma Abedin is affiliated with Islamic radicals.

https://mediamatters.org/people/mike-cernovich#mikecernovich

[Odin2005]

30. This does not surprise me at all.

One has to only go to Reddit to see that there are a lot of socially unenlightened "brogressives" who think they are liberal just because they are Atheists, OK with gay marriage, want legal weed, and want free college tuition. But then they start screaming about "SJW Femi-Nazis" and "violent BLM terrorists" and the veil comes off.

I call these types "Blue Culture Conservatives", they are conservatives who think they are liberal because they are culturally on the "blue" side of the culture war divide and associate "conservatism" with the Red Culture religious loons.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. What you describe is closer to Libertarians

which apparently a lot of them embrace - e.g., the Greenwald lovers.

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. I'm glad they've cleared out of here

The collective intelligence of DU went up significantly when that group of nutbags departed.

[MH1]

29. The sad and puzzling thing, to me, is that there are some posters

who now post at JPR - at least one still posts here - who I did respect. They seem like decent people and I haven't seen them participate in the worst nonsense over there, so maybe they are just hoping to be a positive influence? (Too pollyannish of me?) Not that I spend much time there anymore (and never got an account myself, WAY too much sewage there). I did check it out at the time of the "mass migration" and then occasionally since, just to see if anything's changing. I can understand some people being disappointed in certain of Hillary's policies, and wanting to discuss more radical solutions - but that doesn't justify the vitriol, or the supporting Trump. I support Hillary in this election despite my disagreement with her on some things, because face it, there isn't any one that I would agree with 100%, and she is at least a reasonable option as a leader of the country, and liberal enough in many areas.

[Odin2005]

27. That site has turned into InfoWars.

As someone who supported Bernie in the primares I am embarrassed that I ever joined that site.

[awoke_in_2003]

39. Me too...

Jackpine was a good DUer- they have sullied his name.

[UtahJosh]

31. Dumb question - what's JPR? nt

[BumRushDaShow]

37. It's a website originally named after

and dedicated to a former DU poster who passed away over a year ago - Jackpine Radical. He was very much a proponent of bringing the party back to the left and had some very thoughtful posts and discussions. However during the primary, the site was essentially (IMHO) hijacked by a number of disgruntled DUers, many of whom were anti-Obama (due to his centrism or worse in some cases), and (hidden) DU trolls in addition to disaffected Bernie supporters... and it has now been infested with Freepers who stoke the Clinton hatred and conspiracy theory nonsense.

[UtahJosh]

46. Thanks for the info. nt

[Octafish]

48. Jackpine Radical was profound, a real Democrat.

He thought ALL people are equal under the law and in spirit, even those with whom he disagreed.

The people at the website named after him who I respect have no animus toward DU or DUers.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. I'm afraid the ilk that have invaded the site do a complete disservice to his memory.

[pintobean]

50. Agreed. I wasn't happy that they named the site after him

because they could never maintain an integrity that matched his.

[RonniePudding]

65. What a pantload.

Even you can't believe this nonsense.

[bravenak]

33. Oh hell!

I knew we were going to be in for some serious JPR CT once Twitter went down. This is too much.

[salin]

40. wow.

and that last point made (about admin notice that some folks ignored and instead speculated that they were part of the target of the conspiracy.) Again, wow.

[NanceGreggs]

44. Laughing at RWers ...

... and their anti-Dem conspiracy theories is a time-honoured DU tradition, and always has been.

This isn't "obsession" - it's the fun of sharing the utter nonsense spewed by people who actually believe that Hillary is walking around in a full-body metal brace due to her many debilitating diseases, and swear that Assange was poisoned by Pamela Anderson's vegan sandwich.

THAT'S what is "sadly pathetically hilarious" - and it REALLY IS!!!

JPR has become a never-ending source of hilarity. If they don't like being pointed at and laughed at, they should try not making themselves such easy targets of ridicule.

For many people, a day without reading JPR is a day without . And what's even MORE hilarious is the fact that these RWers are still trying to pass themselves off as True Progressives (TM).

[jcgoldie]

42. Fucking Pamela Anderson!

I knew it! I've been suspicious of her since baywatch, so obvious!

[NanceGreggs]

45. Hey, who knew, right?

In retrospect, everything seems obvious. The fact that we all missed her nefarious ways from the outset is on US. We should have seen this coming from the from the first time we heard "they're not just lifeguards, they're friends."

[MineralMan]

51. That site is slow because they won't pay for enough bandwidth

to support even their pathetic traffic. Every time they do an update, the site is down for hours, and gets even slower.

Right now, there's a note at the top of the home page telling people that they've enabled their DDOS protection, but that slowed the site down even more.

If you can get the site to load, do look at the names in the forums. On November 9, some of those names will start appearing again on DU. We should not forget.

[duffyduff]

52. There are a LOT of familiar names over there. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

56. Oh, yeah.

LOTS of people who left DU because they were persecuted for being far-left and True Progressives (TM) - now quoting FOX-News, Breitbart, Ha-Ha Goodman, and singing the praises of Trey Gowdy while praying for Assange - who was either assassinated by the Clintons or is being held in a secret CIA prison.

Watching things unfold on JPR has been an education as to how easily these self-declared "far lefties" have been turned into RWers in a matter of months. They actually believe that Trump will be a great president, and will follow through with Bernie's agenda if elected.

President Hillary, on the other hand, is going to start WWIII within weeks of her inauguration, will continue to have her political adversaries murdered, and will gut SS - despite the fact that she's dying of at least a dozen different diseases.

JPR is a great study of how easily-manipulated the weak-minded can be. They will literally believe anything if it's anti-HRC/anti-Dem - and I do mean anything. As of just a few days ago, they were still coming up with ways in which Bernie can (and will) replace Hillary before Tuesday - and will go on to win in an absolute landslide.

It's really quite sad to see so many once-respected DUers demonstrating just how easily-led they can be.

[duffyduff]

60. If Bernie Sanders had been the nominee, he would have been third behind Bloomberg and Trump. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

53. Oh, is THAT what it is?

I always thought the site was slow because the people running it are so slow-witted.

[MineralMan]

54. I'm sure that plays a role, too.

[JHan]

57. Well...first of all what is "JPR" and ....

If their hunch is right, and it is a DDOS attack they shouldn't be surprised. What country would be comfortable with a narcissist recklessly leaking the info of its private citizens?

[ismnotwasm]

58. It's a looney toons website spun off from DU

Started by disgruntled members of the "more liberal than thou" variety, members who were actually banned for being tools and trolls, and the less stable denizens of the Internet.

[JHan]

59. best avoided then

[NanceGreggs]

61. JPR is a site ...

... (aka jackpineradicals) started by disgruntled Bernie-or-Busters who left DU when told that bashing HRC was no longer permitted here after she was elected as our party's nominee. Apparently they didn't understand that a site called DemocraticUnderground existed for the purpose of electing a Democrat as POTUS.

JPR was originally launched to support Bernie and his agenda. But once he lost the nomination, it quickly became an anti-HRC/anti-Dem site. Recognizing an opportunity to sway disgruntled Democrats away from their own long-professed "progressive ideals", the site was quickly infiltrated by right-wingers who post links to FOX-News, Brietbart, and other RW sources. People like Alex Jones are often cited as truth-tellers who are being disparaged by the powers-that-be in the evil Democratic Party, who live in fear of "the facts" being known.

JPR has become a case study in how easily-led the weak-minded can be. Its regular posters have become nutcases who will literally believe anything - no matter how ludicrous, and regardless of its source - if it is anti-HRC, anti-Dem, anti-Obama. Bloggers who no one has ever heard of are quoted as "reliable sources", and people like Trey Gowdy are praised for their patriotism and political insight.

According to JPR, Donald Trump is much closer to Bernie's idealism than is HRC and, if elected, will adopt Bernie's agenda and follow through on all of Bernie's campaign promises.

Right now, JPR is probably best known for its conspiracy theories, which have attracted many viewers anxious for a good guffaw. While losing serious political watchers due to the insane bullshit that gets posted there on a daily basis, the site continues to brag about its "viewers" - apparently unaware that a good number of those viewers only read the site in order to point-and-laugh at some of the most inane CTs ever accumulated on a single site.

If you've ever wanted to see self-proclaimed "progressives" being turned into useful RW tools, JPR is the place to see it happening in real time.

[JHan]

62. Oh yeah.. I know the type.

Sad though.

"According to JPR, Donald Trump is much closer to Bernie's idealism than is HRC and, if elected, will adopt Bernie's agenda and follow through on all of Bernie's campaign promises. " - how bent must a mind be to even believe this ? dayum.

[NanceGreggs]

63. How "bent" indeed. n/t

[Rex]

65. It is sad to see some of those names, that have given in to the Darkside, that at one time

held some ability to use rational thought and critical thinking skills. Some of them are just worthless shitbirds, but others really were people of character that posted here and contributed to this site.

THIS is a powerful lesson in how anyone from any political stripe can give in to propaganda and become nothing more than a brainwashed husk. Too much RT propaganda, they bought it all and now look at them. Too much paranoia and the need to believe any conspiracy thrown their way.

We are the enemy now, because there is need for relevancy at all costs for them. Sad. A sorry thing to see. I am really sad to see them turn out this way. Supporting Trump, how pathetic.