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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 08:00 PM Dec 2011

Jon Stewart Crushes Fox News In The 2011 Ratings

http://www.politicususa.com/en/jon-stewart-fox-2011-ratings

By losing 9% of their audience in 2011, Fox News’ prime time lineup now averages fewer viewers than Jon Stewart’s The Daily Show.

According to TVNewser, Fox News averaged 1.868 million total viewers in prime time compared to 2.3 million for The Daily Show.

The audience erosion continued over at Fox News as the network lost 8% of its total viewers and 14% of their viewers in the 25-54 demo. The total number of daytime Fox News viewers slipped to 1.073 million.

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Jon Stewart Crushes Fox News In The 2011 Ratings (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 OP
Keep going down! tabatha Dec 2011 #1
And Jon Stewart gives viewers more actual news than Faux as well groundloop Dec 2011 #2
Good news. tosh Dec 2011 #3
That's what happens when your audience is mostly over 60. muntrv Dec 2011 #4
FAUX plays well to the "damn kids get offa my lawn/back in my day" demographic The Genealogist Dec 2011 #5
LOL!! Nailed it! nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2011 #9
OK I know you are speaking in broad generalizations, but... drlindaphd Dec 2011 #52
FOX news is bragging about less than 2 million viewers? lunatica Dec 2011 #53
"In my neck of the woods, there are more factors than age." The Genealogist Dec 2011 #55
The problem for them is, many of today's 65-year-olds are boomers nxylas Dec 2011 #26
According to the same study you cite RZM Dec 2011 #30
Or captive. Fox in on in a lot of McDonalds and Woodforest Banks. Woodforest branches are in stores pam4water Dec 2011 #49
Go on, go on, go on toward the edge of the cliff, and over! - n/t mazzarro Dec 2011 #6
So Bill and Sean go down, huh? Scuba Dec 2011 #7
Faux Noise will use gimmicks for attention..... Grassy Knoll Dec 2011 #8
Wow... chervilant Dec 2011 #14
There is already one out actually cstanleytech Dec 2011 #21
That's really good news, thanks! Zorra Dec 2011 #10
This Kind Of Skip DallasNE Dec 2011 #11
What's with the drop off at Faux? savalez Dec 2011 #12
For my teabagger sister... Rozlee Dec 2011 #32
Yup. savalez Dec 2011 #48
Good news for those hoping for a more well-informed public eridani Dec 2011 #13
I always flash back to the time I told my Faux-News-watching father-in-law ScottLand Dec 2011 #15
Thier audience is litterally dieing off. Sky Masterson Dec 2011 #16
Americans are sick of Fox (R) lies and spin SpiralHawk Dec 2011 #17
Attrition is culling the Pox herd (NT) The Wizard Dec 2011 #18
Well. faux sucks. The Daily Show doesn't. geckosfeet Dec 2011 #19
Faux Stores lobodons Dec 2011 #37
Three cheers for Stewart!!! cstanleytech Dec 2011 #20
K&R BumRushDaShow Dec 2011 #22
Sweet. k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Dec 2011 #23
Wow, after the day I had yesterday, tavalon Dec 2011 #24
I hope this is the beginning of the end for FAUX SmittynMo Dec 2011 #25
Good news, and hopefully a trend. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #27
That's gotta sting a bit. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2011 #28
I take it that you won't be hearing about this on Fox "News" W T F Dec 2011 #29
Not fair to compare one show to all of prime-time Eric J in MN Dec 2011 #31
+1 pintobean Dec 2011 #33
for this last week, O'Reilly Factor had 2.2 million viewers Tu & Wd, but only 2 mil Monday Bucky Dec 2011 #45
Your last point pintobean Dec 2011 #46
Good!!! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #34
Did they count all those that watch The Daily Show on their computers? Burma Jones Dec 2011 #35
Oh I bet O'Reilly will need amuse bouche Dec 2011 #36
Fake news presented as fake beats fake news presented as real n/t DissedByBush Dec 2011 #38
I am glad to see these numbers, but FreedomVoice Dec 2011 #39
One reason Fox may have more viewers Shankapotomus Dec 2011 #50
Let me play the devil's advocate here. totodeinhere Dec 2011 #40
I think Comedy Central's most popular show is Tosh.0 Burma Jones Dec 2011 #41
I like Tosh.O n/t totodeinhere Dec 2011 #43
K & R Liberal_Dog Dec 2011 #42
I've noticed that Pox Spews fans hate to admit they watch it BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2011 #44
I dare faux news to show obama's statement when he was giving the numbers newspeak Dec 2011 #56
Sounds too good to be true. pam4water Dec 2011 #47
So does the concept of real news from Fox "news". ;) Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #51
LOL. Bravo, Jon!! AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #54

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
4. That's what happens when your audience is mostly over 60.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 08:33 PM
Dec 2011

"The average Fox News viewer is 65 years old. For years, the Fox News model of success has been powered by viewers literally aging in to watching Fox. "

Nuff said!

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
5. FAUX plays well to the "damn kids get offa my lawn/back in my day" demographic
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 08:54 PM
Dec 2011

Some are older than 65, some are younger. But that must be their target demographic.

drlindaphd

(86 posts)
52. OK I know you are speaking in broad generalizations, but...
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 03:12 PM
Dec 2011

In my neck of the woods, there are more factors than age. I am 62 and my husband is 70. We both adore Jon Stewart and abhor Fawx, as do many of our friends. When you use statistics to make your point you must check the margin of error and realize you are going to offend a lot of individuals who do not conform to the statistics. Statistics only speak of groups. They are not something to get really enthusiastic about.

It seems to me that this study only looked at one variable, age. That makes it flawed. Fun, but flawed. There are other variables such as educational level, socio-economic level, and health. If these were included you may get a different result. You may find that other variables were just as strong as age. I find that educational level seems to be a very strong variable. People with more education tend to see right through the Faux nonsense. They also tend to see right through the whole right wing noise machine as well as any that comes in from the left. Health is a factor too. Mental health, as in mental decline.

I have my own opinions about Faux and also about the great cancer that is killing our country aka the tea party. However, do not dismiss age as an asset. Age can also bring valuable experience and wisdom to the table. And if you want to use watching Jon Stewart v watching Faux as the yardstick..go ahead. Just do a strong, reliable, valid study. Not a study with one variable.

Speaking as a 62 year old highly educated, mentally healthy, professional woman,who enjoys Jon Stewart and considers Faux to be torture.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
53. FOX news is bragging about less than 2 million viewers?
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 03:20 PM
Dec 2011

I don't think we 60 somethings need to worry. The great majority of us ignore FOX and more of us watch Jon Stewart than FOX.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
55. "In my neck of the woods, there are more factors than age."
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 03:31 PM
Dec 2011

In my post, I was trying to get away from the age generalization. I said some people in the "offa my lawn/back in my day" crowd are older than 65, some are younger. There are 30-year-olds with that attitude, and 90-year-olds without a hint of the attitude. It is less about age and more about the attitude. Come to think of it, I have heard teens use the "back in my day" lecture with younger siblings in pointing out how Mom and Dad were harder on them than the younger siblings.

What I was trying to say about the FAUX demographic is that the station seems to attract a certain segment of the angry or bitter population of the country, one that thinks it has been denied full happiness because of left-leaning influences, one that is fairly misanthropic, one that longs for good old days that never were. One need not be "of a certain age" to feel like this.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
26. The problem for them is, many of today's 65-year-olds are boomers
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:07 AM
Dec 2011

They grew up in the '60s and don't necessarily subscribe to the conservative views of the WW2 generation. And the situation will only get worse for them in the future.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
30. According to the same study you cite
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:19 PM
Dec 2011

I'm assuming it's this one, btw:

http://www.campusprogress.org/articles/average_age_of_fox_news_viewer_65/

CNN's average viewer is 63, MSNBC's in 59. That's not much different than Fox. All this really tells us is that cable news viewers in general tend to be older.

pam4water

(2,916 posts)
49. Or captive. Fox in on in a lot of McDonalds and Woodforest Banks. Woodforest branches are in stores
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:19 PM
Dec 2011

like Kroger and Walmart.

cstanleytech

(26,368 posts)
21. There is already one out actually
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:21 AM
Dec 2011

and it came out in 1949 and was made by William James O'Reilly SR. and Winifred Angela Drake O'Reilly, its actually pretty safe unless of course your a women and then it might sexual harass you but sue it and it will settle down and pay you money to bury the story.

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
11. This Kind Of Skip
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:27 AM
Dec 2011

Probably reflects a reaction to the phone scandal in the UK and elsewhere along with growing doubts about the content of the news coverage. It can't help that Fox viewers score lower on current events than people that don't watch any news. The wheels can't come off any too soon either.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
12. What's with the drop off at Faux?
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:35 AM
Dec 2011

Did Fox viewers finally realized that nobody was pulling the plug on grandma?

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
32. For my teabagger sister...
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:27 PM
Dec 2011

it was the never ending anti-immigration meme. As a Hispanic, it really finally got her goat and made her turn them off. My part Japanese step-children have a teabagger aunt that was offended by a USC anti-Asian video by Fox and detests Michelle Malkin and was sickened by the posts my stepkids showed her from commenters on Fox Nation after the Tsunami. I imagine that their minority viewers (what little they probably had) have had it with them. Also, they surely can't be appealing to their entire base with their constant pro-wealthy bias. I imagine many of their viewers have been going through rough times or have family members who are. It can't be easy hearing them constantly talking about "poor" billionaires huddling miserably in their mega-mansions, just one 3% tax increase from having to downgrade the gold toilets in their privately owned islands to silver.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
48. Yup.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:14 PM
Dec 2011

Anti-immigration, anti-middle class, anti-everything. It's a wonder how they have any viewers at all. I just don't get it! I'm glad your family is coming around.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
13. Good news for those hoping for a more well-informed public
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:53 AM
Dec 2011

Daily Show watchers generally get better scores on current events tests than Fox viewers.

ScottLand

(2,485 posts)
15. I always flash back to the time I told my Faux-News-watching father-in-law
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:54 AM
Dec 2011

that I get most of my news from the Daily Show and he cringed. But I wasn't kidding.

 

SpiralHawk

(32,944 posts)
17. Americans are sick of Fox (R) lies and spin
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:12 AM
Dec 2011

And who can blame them? Republicon propaganda is disgustipating...

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
19. Well. faux sucks. The Daily Show doesn't.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:48 AM
Dec 2011

I watch The Daily Show on Hulu occasionally since I refuse to subscribe to cable.

on edit: I never watch faux unless I am in a store or somewhere where it is on.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
24. Wow, after the day I had yesterday,
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:29 AM
Dec 2011

This is really great news, especially the demographic they are losing. I knew they we're losing the 75+age demo, because of, well, attrition.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
25. I hope this is the beginning of the end for FAUX
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:48 AM
Dec 2011

Even people that don;t listen to the news know more than people that watch FAUX. Their facist, right wing, racist view on life is finally catching up to them. I hope it's the beginning of the end for them.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
31. Not fair to compare one show to all of prime-time
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:04 PM
Dec 2011

They should either compare Jon Stewart's viewers to Bill O'Reilly's, or all of Comedy Central's primetime to all of Fox News' primetime.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
33. +1
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:29 PM
Dec 2011

That was the first thing I thought. The numbers would be really bad if O'Reilly was compared to all of Comedy Central's prime-time.

The trends are good, though.

Bucky

(54,106 posts)
45. for this last week, O'Reilly Factor had 2.2 million viewers Tu & Wd, but only 2 mil Monday
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:52 PM
Dec 2011

He had 312,000 viewers aged 25-54 on Monday, and about 450,000 in that range Tuesday & Wednesday.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/category/cable-news/

The Daily Show's ratings are harder to find, but one report ( http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/21/comedy-central-ends-2011-as-the-1-entertainment-network-in-cable-among-men-18-34-and-men-18-24/114431/ ) says they have just over a million viewers averaged over the year, a 2% increase from last year. Of course the preponderance of that viewership is in the 25-54 bracket, compared to about one third of O'Reilly's viewers. If you're selling soap, that matters. If you're influencing votes, it doesn't.

Burma Jones

(11,760 posts)
35. Did they count all those that watch The Daily Show on their computers?
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:45 PM
Dec 2011

The Daily Show's demographic is way way more likely to catch the show on their laptop than those filthy, lying, pigfuckers, I mean Fox News' demographic.......

FreedomVoice

(38 posts)
39. I am glad to see these numbers, but
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:03 PM
Dec 2011

The Daily Show then "crushes" every other cable news network by even greater numbers. I guess its interesting to see the Daily Show leading all news outlets, but being that Fox is still on top as far as number of all news viewers, that is a little concerning.

P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC 1,094 265 508
CNN 384 123 170
MSNBC 451 110 189
CNBC 204 58 111
FBN 46 9 24
HLN 235 80 121

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/29/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-december-27-2011/114898/

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
50. One reason Fox may have more viewers
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:38 PM
Dec 2011

is because conservatives don't have any other tv news sources to turn to since all the others are "left wing propaganda". So conservatives viewers all coagulate to one tv channel, making it appear that right wing news has a more powerful viewership than "left wing news".

Contrast that with all the tv news sources liberals have available. Our viewership gets divided up and spread out on multiple tv news sources. So it appears there are less of us viewing "left wing news" shows.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
40. Let me play the devil's advocate here.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:55 PM
Dec 2011

This article might be making an unfair comparison. It says that the Daily Show averages more viewers than FNC's entire prime time lineup averages. That may be true, but that's comparing Comedy Central's most popular show with Fox's entire lineup. Yet Fox's prime time lineup averages more viewers than Comedy Central's entire prime time lineup. And Fox's O'Reilly Factor gets more viewers than any show on Comedy Central gets. I think that the article's author is trying to play a trick with statistics to try to make Fox News look bad. Fox News has better overall ratings than Comedy Central and it's number one show gets better ratings than any show on Comedy Central.

Then there is the claim that FNC has lost viewers when compared to last year. Well, that's true but we are comparing today's ratings with the ratings they were getting last year during the 2010 elections, which where very important to Fox's viewership. And nevertheless, overall Fox had an average viewership that exceeded CNN and MSNBC combined in prime time and for the entire day, and this year's ratings compare favorably with many ratings years in the past although not last year since there was an election last year.

Burma Jones

(11,760 posts)
41. I think Comedy Central's most popular show is Tosh.0
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 05:18 PM
Dec 2011

That being said, Sponge Bob smokes them both in the ratings...........

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
44. I've noticed that Pox Spews fans hate to admit they watch it
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:40 PM
Dec 2011

Or they sure sound that way.....well, then there are those who proclaim they love it, with a "fuck yourself" tone to their voice....

they're dumbass bible thumping, blaming, self absorbed, self-satisfied, rage-fueled hypocrits with no ability for self reflection, generally. Not necessarily OLD.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
56. I dare faux news to show obama's statement when he was giving the numbers
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 03:34 PM
Dec 2011

about the increase in CEO pay, wealth disparity and the incremental increase in labor pay; instead, of telling their audience what obama means. And, some of the faux viewers must have had a WTF moment when they had obama's photo over mitten's name. I mean they probably can convince some of the clueless ones that stevens and foley are democrats instead of repugs; but it's a picture.

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