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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJon Stewart Crushes Fox News In The 2011 Ratings
http://www.politicususa.com/en/jon-stewart-fox-2011-ratingsBy losing 9% of their audience in 2011, Fox News prime time lineup now averages fewer viewers than Jon Stewarts The Daily Show.
According to TVNewser, Fox News averaged 1.868 million total viewers in prime time compared to 2.3 million for The Daily Show.
The audience erosion continued over at Fox News as the network lost 8% of its total viewers and 14% of their viewers in the 25-54 demo. The total number of daytime Fox News viewers slipped to 1.073 million.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)groundloop
(11,539 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:17 AM - Edit history (1)
tosh
(4,426 posts)Progress is happening!
muntrv
(14,505 posts)"The average Fox News viewer is 65 years old. For years, the Fox News model of success has been powered by viewers literally aging in to watching Fox. "
Nuff said!
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Some are older than 65, some are younger. But that must be their target demographic.
Lucky Luciano
(11,268 posts)drlindaphd
(86 posts)In my neck of the woods, there are more factors than age. I am 62 and my husband is 70. We both adore Jon Stewart and abhor Fawx, as do many of our friends. When you use statistics to make your point you must check the margin of error and realize you are going to offend a lot of individuals who do not conform to the statistics. Statistics only speak of groups. They are not something to get really enthusiastic about.
It seems to me that this study only looked at one variable, age. That makes it flawed. Fun, but flawed. There are other variables such as educational level, socio-economic level, and health. If these were included you may get a different result. You may find that other variables were just as strong as age. I find that educational level seems to be a very strong variable. People with more education tend to see right through the Faux nonsense. They also tend to see right through the whole right wing noise machine as well as any that comes in from the left. Health is a factor too. Mental health, as in mental decline.
I have my own opinions about Faux and also about the great cancer that is killing our country aka the tea party. However, do not dismiss age as an asset. Age can also bring valuable experience and wisdom to the table. And if you want to use watching Jon Stewart v watching Faux as the yardstick..go ahead. Just do a strong, reliable, valid study. Not a study with one variable.
Speaking as a 62 year old highly educated, mentally healthy, professional woman,who enjoys Jon Stewart and considers Faux to be torture.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I don't think we 60 somethings need to worry. The great majority of us ignore FOX and more of us watch Jon Stewart than FOX.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)In my post, I was trying to get away from the age generalization. I said some people in the "offa my lawn/back in my day" crowd are older than 65, some are younger. There are 30-year-olds with that attitude, and 90-year-olds without a hint of the attitude. It is less about age and more about the attitude. Come to think of it, I have heard teens use the "back in my day" lecture with younger siblings in pointing out how Mom and Dad were harder on them than the younger siblings.
What I was trying to say about the FAUX demographic is that the station seems to attract a certain segment of the angry or bitter population of the country, one that thinks it has been denied full happiness because of left-leaning influences, one that is fairly misanthropic, one that longs for good old days that never were. One need not be "of a certain age" to feel like this.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)They grew up in the '60s and don't necessarily subscribe to the conservative views of the WW2 generation. And the situation will only get worse for them in the future.
RZM
(8,556 posts)I'm assuming it's this one, btw:
http://www.campusprogress.org/articles/average_age_of_fox_news_viewer_65/
CNN's average viewer is 63, MSNBC's in 59. That's not much different than Fox. All this really tells us is that cable news viewers in general tend to be older.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)like Kroger and Walmart.
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)I wish someone would make a Billo The Clown Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man...
cstanleytech
(26,368 posts)and it came out in 1949 and was made by William James O'Reilly SR. and Winifred Angela Drake O'Reilly, its actually pretty safe unless of course your a women and then it might sexual harass you but sue it and it will settle down and pay you money to bury the story.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)DallasNE
(7,404 posts)Probably reflects a reaction to the phone scandal in the UK and elsewhere along with growing doubts about the content of the news coverage. It can't help that Fox viewers score lower on current events than people that don't watch any news. The wheels can't come off any too soon either.
savalez
(3,517 posts)Did Fox viewers finally realized that nobody was pulling the plug on grandma?
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)it was the never ending anti-immigration meme. As a Hispanic, it really finally got her goat and made her turn them off. My part Japanese step-children have a teabagger aunt that was offended by a USC anti-Asian video by Fox and detests Michelle Malkin and was sickened by the posts my stepkids showed her from commenters on Fox Nation after the Tsunami. I imagine that their minority viewers (what little they probably had) have had it with them. Also, they surely can't be appealing to their entire base with their constant pro-wealthy bias. I imagine many of their viewers have been going through rough times or have family members who are. It can't be easy hearing them constantly talking about "poor" billionaires huddling miserably in their mega-mansions, just one 3% tax increase from having to downgrade the gold toilets in their privately owned islands to silver.
Anti-immigration, anti-middle class, anti-everything. It's a wonder how they have any viewers at all. I just don't get it! I'm glad your family is coming around.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Daily Show watchers generally get better scores on current events tests than Fox viewers.
ScottLand
(2,485 posts)that I get most of my news from the Daily Show and he cringed. But I wasn't kidding.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)SpiralHawk
(32,944 posts)And who can blame them? Republicon propaganda is disgustipating...
The Wizard
(12,556 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)I watch The Daily Show on Hulu occasionally since I refuse to subscribe to cable.
on edit: I never watch faux unless I am in a store or somewhere where it is on.
lobodons
(1,290 posts)Those stores do not get my money.
cstanleytech
(26,368 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,142 posts)Hope this trend continues. The more sheeple who wake up out of their faux snooze stupor, the better!
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
tavalon
(27,985 posts)This is really great news, especially the demographic they are losing. I knew they we're losing the 75+age demo, because of, well, attrition.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Even people that don;t listen to the news know more than people that watch FAUX. Their facist, right wing, racist view on life is finally catching up to them. I hope it's the beginning of the end for them.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I think Stewart going on the Fox show a few times was a smart move.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)W T F
(1,150 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)They should either compare Jon Stewart's viewers to Bill O'Reilly's, or all of Comedy Central's primetime to all of Fox News' primetime.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)That was the first thing I thought. The numbers would be really bad if O'Reilly was compared to all of Comedy Central's prime-time.
The trends are good, though.
Bucky
(54,106 posts)He had 312,000 viewers aged 25-54 on Monday, and about 450,000 in that range Tuesday & Wednesday.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/category/cable-news/
The Daily Show's ratings are harder to find, but one report ( http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/21/comedy-central-ends-2011-as-the-1-entertainment-network-in-cable-among-men-18-34-and-men-18-24/114431/ ) says they have just over a million viewers averaged over the year, a 2% increase from last year. Of course the preponderance of that viewership is in the 25-54 bracket, compared to about one third of O'Reilly's viewers. If you're selling soap, that matters. If you're influencing votes, it doesn't.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)always appears to be lost on a lot of people here.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Burma Jones
(11,760 posts)The Daily Show's demographic is way way more likely to catch the show on their laptop than those filthy, lying, pigfuckers, I mean Fox News' demographic.......
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)some Falafels and a tough loofah after hearing this
DissedByBush
(3,342 posts)FreedomVoice
(38 posts)The Daily Show then "crushes" every other cable news network by even greater numbers. I guess its interesting to see the Daily Show leading all news outlets, but being that Fox is still on top as far as number of all news viewers, that is a little concerning.
P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC 1,094 265 508
CNN 384 123 170
MSNBC 451 110 189
CNBC 204 58 111
FBN 46 9 24
HLN 235 80 121
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/29/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-december-27-2011/114898/
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)is because conservatives don't have any other tv news sources to turn to since all the others are "left wing propaganda". So conservatives viewers all coagulate to one tv channel, making it appear that right wing news has a more powerful viewership than "left wing news".
Contrast that with all the tv news sources liberals have available. Our viewership gets divided up and spread out on multiple tv news sources. So it appears there are less of us viewing "left wing news" shows.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)This article might be making an unfair comparison. It says that the Daily Show averages more viewers than FNC's entire prime time lineup averages. That may be true, but that's comparing Comedy Central's most popular show with Fox's entire lineup. Yet Fox's prime time lineup averages more viewers than Comedy Central's entire prime time lineup. And Fox's O'Reilly Factor gets more viewers than any show on Comedy Central gets. I think that the article's author is trying to play a trick with statistics to try to make Fox News look bad. Fox News has better overall ratings than Comedy Central and it's number one show gets better ratings than any show on Comedy Central.
Then there is the claim that FNC has lost viewers when compared to last year. Well, that's true but we are comparing today's ratings with the ratings they were getting last year during the 2010 elections, which where very important to Fox's viewership. And nevertheless, overall Fox had an average viewership that exceeded CNN and MSNBC combined in prime time and for the entire day, and this year's ratings compare favorably with many ratings years in the past although not last year since there was an election last year.
Burma Jones
(11,760 posts)That being said, Sponge Bob smokes them both in the ratings...........
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Or they sure sound that way.....well, then there are those who proclaim they love it, with a "fuck yourself" tone to their voice....
they're dumbass bible thumping, blaming, self absorbed, self-satisfied, rage-fueled hypocrits with no ability for self reflection, generally. Not necessarily OLD.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)about the increase in CEO pay, wealth disparity and the incremental increase in labor pay; instead, of telling their audience what obama means. And, some of the faux viewers must have had a WTF moment when they had obama's photo over mitten's name. I mean they probably can convince some of the clueless ones that stevens and foley are democrats instead of repugs; but it's a picture.