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Matt Taibbi ~ Senators Grovel, Embarrass Themselves At Dimon Hearing
I wasnt prepared for just how bad it was. If not for Oregons Jeff Merkley, who was the only senator who understood the importance of taking the right tone with Dimon, the hearing would have been a total fiasco. Most of the rest of the senators not only supplicated before the blow-dried banker like love-struck schoolgirls or hotel bellhops, they also almost all revealed themselves to be total ignoramuses with no grasp of the material they were supposed to be investigating.
That most of them had absolutely no conception of even the basics of the derivatives market was obvious. But what was even more amazing was that several of them had serious trouble even reading aloud the questions their more learned staffers prepared for them. Many seemed to be reading their own questions for the first time.
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.....................The senators treated Dimon like a visiting dignitary and a teacher of great wisdom, not like a man who, after growing very rich off of public money, had put the whole economy at risk by engaging in wildly unsafe financial sex on a grand scale. Senators are like judges the way they comport themselves in public is important, and its important that they work at maintaining the dignity of their offices. You dont get to snort and roll your eyes in front of a judge, and you shouldnt get to do on the floor of the senate, especially when youre there because you violated the public trust. Somebody has to remind these legislators who it is they work for, and its not Jamie Dimon.
much much more:
http://shiftfrequency.com/matt-taibbi-senators-grovel-embarrass-themselves-at-dimon-hearing/#more-11155
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...That's the problem.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)CanonRay
(14,135 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Wind Dancer
(3,618 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Our government is in the pockets of these coddled crooks and they don't even make an attempt to hide it anymore.
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theaocp
(4,248 posts)He already knows he has the Republics bowing and scraping before him, so why not bribe the Democrats exclusively? Then, he captures both sides. I don't care how sincere Dimon appears. His actions as head of JPMorgan should have resulted in a resignation and apology to his shareholders. So much for integrity.
I will grant that he is working in a system designed to let him get away with what he does. That said, Obama should have nothing to do with him. I guess that tells us more about Obama and his circle than some wish to know.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)despite the trading losses this quarter.
JPM avoided the subprime crisis of 2007-08 that plagued its rivals (Citigroup mainly). The shareholders strongly support him.
Customers are loyal to JPM too. No one is forced to bank with them.
Seriously, Angelo Mozilo is contemptible and crooked.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)God, I could set my watch by you.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)Dick Fuld ruined Lehman
Jimmy Cayne ruined Bear
John Thain ruined Merrill
Mozilo helped ruin the economy
Parsons, Weill and many others at Citigroup
all lousy SOBs who should be sued by their shareholders.
many others.
What is the point?
You hate all bankers. Even the ones that ran medium sized regional banks.
Who cares who he donates to.....
This is about the big picture here and if you can't see that Dimon is part of the problem----you aint paying attention enough.
snot
(10,547 posts)But that doesn't mean he's right, or that our pols have no oblg to be aware of other points of view.
I too saw the footage, and I don't say things like this lightly: the senatorial groveling was disgusting.
Until Congressional discussion shows a lot more insight into the arguments for restoring Glass-Steagall and prohibiting the use of derivatives for speculation rather than to hedge risks associated with tangible commodities, they're just working on creating the next, worse meltdown.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)so that he could "be in touch" with those who wish to legislate (and regulate) his business.
Now, THAT was a stroke of pure genius on his part, being that he wants to "help" and everything by making himself "accessible" when people have "questions".
pacalo
(24,721 posts)I confess to being a little under the influence while watching it ... ... &, at the time, he seemed so forthcoming (& "helpful" ). While I was in a generous mood, he was just actually...smoooooth.
girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)Pushing for austerity after taxpayers rescued his industry with trillions in bailouts. Fuck Dimon.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)(See post #30 up above.)
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)[center]''History doesn't repeat itself, but it can rhyme.'' ~Mark Twain[/center]
K&R
- . . . as {the usurer} fed on insolvency and controlled legislation, the laws were as ingeniously contrived for creating debt, as for making it profitable when contracted. . . As the capitalists owned the courts and administered justice, they had the means at hand of ruining any plebeian whose property was tempting.
Nor was Adams perception of the nature of law confined to ancient Rome. He was able to see, clearer than his contemporaries, that it is no mere coincidence, nor a lex naturae, that the modern legal system is concerned mostly with the protection of property rights:
- Abstract justice is, of course, impossible. Law is merely the expression of the will of the strongest for the time being, and therefore laws have no fixity, but shift from generation to generation. As competition sharpens . . . religious ritual is supplanted by civil codes for the enforcement of contracts and the protection of the creditor class.
The more society consolidates, the more legislation is controlled by the wealthy, and at length the representatives of the moneyed class acquire that absolute power once wielded by the Roman proconsul, and now exercised by the modern magistrate. Thus the modern legal system is infinitely subtle, and its enforcing officers equally efficient, in punishing those forms of theft which are not practiced by the ruling class; but robbery in the market-place is governed by primitive controls which lag far behind the sophisticated mechanisms which company lawyers contrive to circumvent them. One measure of a society is the problems it chooses to solve.
Romes ruling class was unable to restrain its rapacity, even in its own ultimate interest. Adams saw what liberals are rarely willing to admitnamely, that a system based on corrupt practice cannot be saved merely by tinkering with it. The stronghold of usury lay in the fiscal system, which down to the fall of the Empire was an engine for working bankruptcy. Romes policy was to farm the taxes; that is to say, after assessment, to sell them to a publican, who collected what he could. The business was profitable in proportion as it was extortionate, and the country was subjected to a levy, unregulated by law, and conducted to enrich speculators.
MORE: The Economics of Human Energy in Brooks Adams, Ezra Pound, and Robert Theobald - by John Whiting, London University
snot
(10,547 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...the votes and power of the people supercedes those who write the checks. It'll be when the political culture is changed so that taking and spending obscene amounts of money to buy a public office is a liability not an asset...where the American public decides its had enough. We get the Congress we "deserve".
For decades the rushpublicans have worked to corrupt the system from within...winning elections that have led to the creation of a kleptocracy and as long as they continue to win, so does the big money. As long as public offices are sold to the highest bidder those who write the checks will always be at the front of the line...
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)It was designed by merchants and planters and exists to serve a clientele - men like themselves. It's not a public service for fucksakes. If you have any, drop your coin in the slot and take your pleasure. People who properly have business before the committee do business WITH the committee. Show up without a receipt and you will likely be escorted OUT.
This is how your government works. When it deviates from that, it's called Soshulizzum!
Who is more important to the merchant? Some raggedy street person peering in with their dirty nose pressed to the shop window, who couldn't afford the welcome mat at the door much less the fine stuff on the showroom shelves - OR THE PAYING CUSTOMER???
As it is with the merchant, so goes it with the back alley whore. The paying customer means all. You can watch from a distance but if you ain't putting up the money you don't get to have any fun. Critical remarks will cost you extra or you can keep them to yourselves for free.
spanone
(135,922 posts)senators admire looting of the small people
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)and it ain't us anymore.
KG
(28,753 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."
"I think I can say, and say with pride, that we have some legislatures that bring in higher prices than any in the world."
Mark Twain
Blue Owl
(50,557 posts)n/t
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Ironically, a part of a group they are always complaining about ....
Sam
Neue Regel
(221 posts)The prostrating, boot-licking, ass-kissing, praise-heaping republicans were pulling no punches in trying to deflect as much blame off of Dimon and Chase as they possibly could. They all know that if they shield Dimon well enough there will be a nice, cushy job waiting for them at Chase should they lose an election or elect to retire from Congress and go into 'consulting'.
Edit to add - I'd like someone to ask Jamie Dimon this question: "Mr Dimon, you say the buck stops with you, and that you are 100% responsible and accountable. Having said that, how much money does an individual have to lose over the course of 6 weeks befreo they get fired from JP Morgan Chase? So far the CIO unit set up by you, run by your hand-picked "star investor, Ina Drew" has lost $3 billion in 6 weeks, and the consensus is that there are more losses to come. Mr. Dimon, how much of a loss does one person have to cause before they lose their job at Chase? How much more has to be lost in the "trading strategy before you lose YOUR job?"