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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPhyliss Schlafly was a vile and disgusting human being. Fuck her.
She was a horrible racist, anti-Muslim and homophobe. And that's what needs to be said.
And she can't vote for Trump in November. Ha, ha.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Amazing (and disgusting) how one person could do so much damage to women's rights. Horrible human being.
longship
(40,416 posts)When Phyllis Schlafly gets to Hell, she will be given a choice. Death, or Chichi.
The guy next to Phyllis chooses Chichi, whereupon he is stuffed into a barrel, raped by rabid monkeys, set on fire, and rolled down a steep hill into a river of boiling shit.
Then, the devil will offer Phyllis the same choice. Death, or Chichi.
Seeing how bad Chichi is, Phyllis chooses death, whereupon the devil responds, "Death it is. But first... Chichi!"
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)PJMcK
(22,048 posts)Ligyron
(7,639 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)what is Chichi ?
longship
(40,416 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,765 posts)Only it was death or bunta!
longship
(40,416 posts)As long as fire, boiling shit, and rabid monkeys are included. Those are the obligatory elements. The name is irrelevant.
cannabis_flower
(3,765 posts)In the version I heard there was no fire, rabid monkeys or boiling shit. Just a communal gang rape.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Whatthe_Firetruck
(558 posts)...tirelessly, to deny women from having the same advantages she had. A self hating misogynist.
SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)and had a "career".
AwakeAtLast
(14,133 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Look how old this pic is . That's a lot of years of being nasty
And she was all about the latest haters
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Old Terp
(464 posts)You know the one, the Munchkins start singing "Ding Dong . . ."
mcar
(42,372 posts)Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)And I too am celebrating her death. The world is a better place with her gone. Chichi!
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)She was a traitor to women.
Her and Scalia frying together in hell tonight.
Snarkoleptic
(6,001 posts)n/t
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)regretted.
revmclaren
(2,529 posts)Coming soon to a pile of s#@t near you!
If karma is truly just.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,809 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)But I agree. . .what a nasty piece of vermin she was.
I don't even care to say "my condolences to the family." Fuck them too.
New Orleans Strong
(212 posts)I was feeling
that that was a little harah. Wait! No×
MADem
(135,425 posts)"Happy days are here again."
Who knows what goes on behind closed doors....?
Raine
(30,540 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....with Cheney on that short list.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Let the rapturing of the deserving begin!
But first,
CHICHI!!!!@
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,809 posts). . .or January 20, 2017.
LeftishBrit
(41,210 posts)gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)8 track mind
(1,638 posts)ERROR.......
C:Windowsconservative_sadness_subroutine.bat not found....
GoDawgs
(267 posts)FIFY 8Track!
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)FTFY!
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)The path is very important in batch scripts.
:: =========== Schlafly.bat ==================
:: Created by:Glassunion
:: 09/06/2016 11:45am
:: =======================================
if .%Phyliss%.==.Dead. (call :Emotion) else (goto :eof)
goto :eof
:Emotion
echo.
echo 1 - Happy
echo 2 - Meh
echo 3 - Haz a sadz
echo 4 - I haz a butthurt
choice /c 1234 /m "Please select 1 through 4, on how you are feeling"
set _emotion=%errorlevel%
cls
if %_emotion% LEQ 2 (echo Have a nice day! & goto :eof)
if %_emotion% EQU 3 (echo I'm sadz you haz a sadz. You should watch less Fox News. & goto :eof)
if %_emotion% EQU 4 (echo OH FFS! & goto THEEND)
:THEEND
echo You really should question your life.
echo.
cls
pause
echo No really you should. In fact, let me help you.
pause
format C: /fs:NTFS /x /p:8238
:: No need to close out this subroutine as the script will probably blow up at this point.
:: But for the purists...
goto :eof
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)We wouldn't want her to come back...
bullsnarfle
(254 posts)Bury her upside-down...just in case she wakes up and starts digging.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)StarzGuy
(254 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)I hope!
longship
(40,416 posts)And thankfully, she has now simultaneously been both mooted, and muted.
It's her evil spawn we need to be worried about now. That Andrew is a piece of work. Conservapedia? BAH!!!!
Zambero
(8,965 posts)was too much for her heart of stone to contemplate.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Seems a little off, but there ya go
Response to bluestateguy (Original post)
MichiganVote This message was self-deleted by its author.
missingfink
(174 posts)assuming, of course, that Clinton wins. A woman winning the Presidency would have been horrible to her.
Response to bluestateguy (Original post)
iandhr This message was self-deleted by its author.
melman
(7,681 posts)I will never understand what people get out of posting such hateful things.
And no, I wasn't a fan and I'm not defending her. But still.
longship
(40,416 posts)Nobody mourns for them. As is right.
it's really not right. But go ahead, do what you gotta do.
longship
(40,416 posts)She spent her life making people miserable with her policies, which she did her best to make official policy.
I will not be kind or deferential about her demise.
She deserves only that same derision which she unhesitatingly gave those who were the most downtrodden. Phyllis Schlafly was evil!
Good riddance! The world is better without her.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)I'm not nearly as enthused about Schlaf's death as I was (and continue to be) about Scalia's.
niyad
(113,552 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)She is worm food now and I am sure the worms won't be offended. It may be in poor taste but I don't think it's not right.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Much more convenient to indict her critics for "it's really not right," than it is to criticize the concrete consequences of her own policies and positions; as it certainly allows us the pretense of righteousness-- whether earned or not.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Aren't we supposed to be above this kind of hideous behavior? (rhetorical question)
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seems both a subjective and relative statement predicated wholly on a pretense of moral righteousness. (ironic response)
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If you are thinking of my "moral righteousness", no. I make no such pretenses. DU's collective "moral righteousness"? Oh, hell yes! And it is clearly and totally undeserved.
rivegauche
(601 posts)That old bitch was incredibly offensive to ME and to millions of others. I refuse to lay down like a doormat to any asshole or bully, and that is what she was. I'm not "above" being glad that she's dead. No hypocrisy here. She was an evil old hag and she did a lot of damage to equal rights.
Honest.Dem
(30 posts)but these same folks who dance on graves wouldn't do it in front of the deceased relatives...some of whom are liberal. It's amazing how "courage" changes when anonymity is removed. I have no problems with deriding policies and efforts by people on the other side of the political spectrum, but I will not engage in hating people for their political beliefs. That would be acting like Philippine president Duterte. After all, how is it any different? If you hate people for their political positions after they have died, then why not tell you relatives (those whose political views differ from yours) who are still alive that you hate them for their political views now? Let's not be hypocritical now...lets hate EQUALLY! Go on...take the poison pill and hope they are the ones who get sick.
niyad
(113,552 posts)faces exactly what I think of them. and I do hate the beliefs that cause harm and evil, and will not pretend otherwise. I had to deal with her and the evil she caused for decades, as I have with many others, and I will not pretend for one moment to be sorry about their passing. I am not hypocritical enough to do that.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)sweetloukillbot
(11,068 posts)It seems appropriate.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Huge EC fan here. Seeing him in concert in Oct., maybe he'll do that one in her memory.
DinahMoeHum
(21,809 posts)Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)No matter how wrong she was in her views in your opinion.
Hatred and intolerance to others beliefs buys you a ticket to come back and have to live with those same beliefs.
Some peeps just don't get it.
Feel free to flame away. The 3% that will get what I am saying is worth the scorn.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,160 posts)But I do have to admire her political chops. We could take notes from how she operated.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)and our country. She gets nothing but my scorn.
Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)It's just not in me to piss on their graves.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Are we talking Indira Gandhi?
Also, it's totally permissible to piss on someone's grave. Their death doesn't wash away their sins.
classykaren
(769 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I can't confirm if it's legit, though.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What specifically are the objective and negative consequences should we decide to "piss on their graves?"
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)And while you're (not) at it, you can add "Sanctimoniously wagging your fingers at strangers for no good reason at all" to the list of things you are not doing.
MADem
(135,425 posts)that GHANDI did harm to people? You do realize he was the father of nonviolent resistance?
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)to know that a lot of unflattering aspects of his life is ignored. His Indian activism in South Africa, when he experienced intolerance, most definitely added to apartheid. He did come to regret his actions later in life, according to the Indian government.
While I whole heartedly agree with you about Schafley, I also agree with Dreamweaver5.0 that Gandhi did and does harm people.
Some Gandhi quotes. kaffir, a word I've come to understand is the equivalent of N-word for black South Africans.
Before May 5, 1895 When one reflects that the conception of Brahmanism, with its poetic and mysterious mythology, took its rise in the land of the Coolie trader, that in that land 24 centuries ago, the almost divine Buddha taught and practised the glorious doctrine of self-sacrifice, and that it was from the plains and mountains of that weird old country that we have derived the fundamental truths of the very language we speak, one cannot but help regretting that the children of such a race should be treated as equals of the children of black heathendom and outer darkness. Those who, for a few moments, have stayed to converse with the Indian trader have been, perhaps, surprised to find they are speaking to a scholar and a gentleman
. And it is the sons of this Land of light who are despised as Coolies, and treated as Kaffirs. ~ Vol. I, p. 225
A general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir. ~ Vol. I, p. 193Before May 5, 1895
June 1, 1906 The Boer Government insulted the Indians by classing them with the Kaffirs. ~ Vol. V, p. 59
Apr. 14, 1906 It is not for us to say whether the revolt of the Kaffirs is justified or not. We are in Natal by virtue of British power. Our very existence depends upon it. It is therefore our duty to render whatever help we can. There was a discussion in the Press as to what part the Indian community would play in the event of an actual war. We have already declared in the English columns of this journal that the Indian community is ready to play its part;1 and we believe what we did during the Boer War should also be done now. That is, if the Government so desires, we should raise an ambulance corps. We should also agree to become permanent volunteers, if the Government is prepared to give us the requisite training. ~ Vol. V, pp. 179-180
June 30, 1906 We have to learn much from what the whites are doing in Natal. There is hardly any family from which someone has not gone to fight the Kaffir rebels. Following their example, we should steel our hearts and take courage. Now is the time when the leading whites want us to take this step; if we let go this opportunity, we shall repent later. We therefore urge all Indian leaders to do their duty to the best of their ability. ~ Vol. V, p. 273
Part of Gandhi's lengthy impassioned letter to the legislative council and assembly highlighting British and Indian shared Aryan heritage, India's contribution to arts, philosphy, religion, et cetera, and civilized - as opposed to you know who.
Before December 19, 1894 "Such is India. If the picture appears to you to be somewhat overdrawn or fanciful, it is none the less faithful. There is the other side. Let him who takes delight in separating, rather than in uniting, the two nations give the other side. Then, please, examine both with the impartiality of a Daniel, and I promise that there will yet remain a considerable portion of what has been said above untouched, to induce you to believe that India is not Africa, and that it is a civilized country in the truest sense of the term civilization. ~ Vol. I, I'm not sure of the page.
December 19, 1894
May 26, 1906 You say that the Magistrates decision is unsatisfactory, because it would enable a person, however unclean, to travel by a tram and that even the Kaffirs would be able to do so. But the Magistrates decision is quite different. The Court has declared that the Kaffirs have no legal right to travel by the trams. And, according to tram regulations, those in an unclean dress or in a drunken state are prohibited from boarding a tram. Thanks to the Courts decision, only clean Indians or Coloured people other than Kaffirs can now travel by the trams. ~ Vol. V, p. 235
Jan. 16, 1909 I observed with regret that some Indians were happy to sleep in the same room as the Kaffirs, the reason being that they hoped there for a secret supply of tobacco, etc. This is a matter of shame to us. We may entertain no aversion to Kaffirs, but we cannot ignore the fact that there is no common ground between them and us in the daily affairs of life. Moreover, those who wish to sleep in the same room with them have ulterior motives for doing so. Obviously, we ought to abandon such notions if we want to make progress. ~ Vol. IX, p. 257
This is just a bit from an article here http://www.mysteryofindia.com/2014/07/anti-black-quotes-of-gandhi.html from http://www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/VOL001.PDF
Please listen to lecture by Arundhati Roy below, Race, Caste - Ambedkar v. Gandhi, in which Gandhi used his political power to deny the Dalits, Untouchables, their right to elect their own leaders. She also explains why MLK, Jr. was more "Gandhi than Gandhi."
The Indian Constitution was authored by Gandhi's main critic and political opponent, Dr.Ambedkar, for whom our journal is named and the first Dalit in history to receive an education (if you have never heard of Dr. Ambedkar I would urge you to try and keep an open mind about what I am saying for it is a bit like me talking to you about the founding of the USA when you have never heard of Thomas Jefferson).
Most readers are familiar with Gandhi's great hunger strike against the so called Poona Pact in 1933. The matter which Gandhi was protesting, nearly unto death at that, was the inclusion in the draft Indian Constitution, proposed by the British, that reserved the right of Dalits to elect their own leaders. Dr. Ambedkar, with his degree in Law from Cambridge, had been choosen by the British to write the new constitution for India. Having spent his life overcoming caste based discrimination, Dr. Ambedkar had come to the conclusion that the only way Dalits could improve their lives is if they had the exclusive right to vote for their leaders, that a portion or reserved section of all elected positions were only for Dalits and only Dalits could vote for these reserved positions.
Gandhi was determined to prevent this and went on hunger strike to change this article in the draft constitution. After many communal riots, where tens of thousands of Dalits were slaughtered, and with a leap in such violence predicted if Gandhi died, Dr. Ambedkar agreed, with Gandhi on his death bed, to give up the Dalits right to exclusively elect their own leaders and Gandhi ended his hunger strike.Later, on his own death bed, Dr. Ambedkar would say this was the biggest mistake in his life, that if he had to do it all over again, he would have refused to give up Dalit only representation, even if it meant Gandhi's death. http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-mountain200306.htm
MADem
(135,425 posts)And then you proceed to excoriate him for the very actions that he 'did come to regret.'
That's sort of like never forgiving the late Robert Byrd, the Constitution-waving elder statesman of the Senate, for his KKK membership, which he apologized for throughout the remainder of his life.
Perfect should never be the enemy of the good. Seems pretty obvious that a black man by the name of KING managed to "forgive" Ghandi for his intemperate comments and situational beliefs in his younger years. If MLK could find forgiveness and understanding, I think I'm not in a position to second guess him. The arc of Ghandi's life work was non-violent resistance--that is his legacy.
smh....
I'd still like to hear from the person who made the original comment.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I beg to differ, I cannot compare Sen. Bryd who publicly demonstrated contrition for years with Gandhi who never apologized. It was a statement by the government and still upsetting to the extent that Minorities of India ask that we even stop using Gandhi as a role model. Senator, as members of the Indian minority community, we are compelled to strongly protest your celebration of Gandhi. You would do better to make Americas founding fathers your example, since they at least taught, if not always practiced, that all men are created equal. Gandhi, however, actively promoted inequality for all, and we question your judgment in choosing an indisputable racist as your source of inspiration. Your oversight of Gandhis anti-black activism is worrisome, inducing us to doubt your potential discernment as president.http://www.minoritiesofindia.org/reject-gandhi-an-open-letter-to-senator-obama/
My response to you is not about forgiveness nor the perfect being the enemy of good. It's pure information based on your apparent disbelief, judging by the emoticon, that Gandhi did not harm people. The fact is his activism did and continues to harm people.
First of all, MLK, Jr. is not the argument nor is it about whether MLK, Jr. would forgive Gandhi. By many accounts, towards the end of his life, MLK, Jr. felt that his strategy of change thru non violent resistent had reached it's limit. http://harvardwrites.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/HW_Wang.pdf
MaDem, all of our heroes have clay feet and so did MLK, Jr. But in my opinion, he was more righteous than Gandhi and hence why Roy said he was more "Gandhi than Gandhi."
MADem
(135,425 posts)Now you're moving the goalposts and trying to place icons on a scale of "righteousness?" I just can't indulge in that kind of horse racing.
Please. Taking comments someone made in 1906, living in a very stratified society, and trying to make them apply to a person who has moved to yet another stratified society four decades and more later is just ... lame.
There is a reason why Ghandi is an icon, and it's not because of his blind spots--it's because of his vision, which, it cannot be denied, changed the world. MLK saw that, and I trust him more than anyone I hear from here on DU, sorry.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)I could not let your laughter go without rebuttal. I care about what has happened and continues to happen to the black people of South Africa and the minorities of India, because of Gandhi's incredible influence. And have I no investment in icon worship.
I've said my piece and am satisfied. Have a good night.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You certainly have a vivid imagination, too.
I think we're about done here. I am still interested in hearing from the original commenter, though.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Sometimes something is worth remembering and i like to have a positive outlook on something good that has happened while i toil.
She was never going to admit that even a few the things she was doing to be wrong or have wronged others. Sure hope the six feet of dirt that covers her doesn't get repulsed also
going to have to agree with you on this one. I'll just sa I didn't care for her views and leave it at that.
Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)" That's all we can do at times..."
In addition to chastising others for reacting in such a way that lacks any real consequences.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Death isn't inherently tragic. Why should she be honored now that she did something we will all do?
Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)She lived her life the way she did for a reason.
I may disagree with her belief system because I was given a different path in life.
She was given hers.
That's all.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)In doing so many gave their lives in standing up to the British Empire and being slaughtered in a peacefull rebellion.
This was something that bothered him his whole life and the reason he eventually resorted to personal hunger strikes to make a stand.
Ghandi also preached that sometimes it takes bad to create harmony and vice versa.
It's a big picture concept and when one realizes we are all cogs in the wheel of progress, be it good or evil we are all moving in the same direction as one.
I hope this helps you understand where I am coming from.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Acceptance of "bad" in the interest of creating harmony and vice versa? I have to chew on this for a bit. Cheers.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)So don't get up on your high horse on their behalf.
And of course she was 92, so it makes even less sense to be offended on behalf of her long dead parents.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Hatred and intolerance to others beliefs buys you a ticket to come back and have to live with those same beliefs..."
What a creative little bumper sticker you and your little peeps have imagined.
MADem
(135,425 posts)No flames--just filling out her "resume" for you.
Welcome to DU.
sellitman
(11,607 posts)Changed my mind.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:45 PM - Edit history (1)
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I defy anyone to prove me wrong.
niyad
(113,552 posts)niyad
(113,552 posts)to deal with this vile, woman-hating traitor for over 40 years, and I have seen the consequences of her hatred, her hypocrisy, her soul-deep ugliness.
so, I will not pretend for one moment to feel any kind of sympathy or sorrow. glad I keep a bottle of champagne chilled.
MADem
(135,425 posts)in the sentence "Revenge is a dish best served cold."
She was a nasty piece of work and she did make life horrible for half our population and those who love them. I found her insufferable and pernicious, and to now affect some sort of humble "Let's not speak ill of the dead" routine would be extremely hypocritical, so I just can't and won't do it.
A dreadful and dangerous lunatic who was a harm to society has died.
Good.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)So Phyllis must have had quite a few thousand years on her.
rivegauche
(601 posts)I won't be a hypocrite and say RIP. She was a vile, stupid cow and I'm glad she is off the earth. Good riddance.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)She will not be missed. I only wish she had taken Anita Bryant with her.
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)The world is a better place without her.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)moose966
(25 posts)I agree with bluestateguy 100%. I remember her primarily as an ugly homophobe.
niyad
(113,552 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Some folks evidently liked the troll, go fig.
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)She's dead.
Good.
Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)I may not have agreed with her views but she was a worthy adversery . May she rest in peace.
Why the hate here on DU?
Please don't respond with what you think she did overall. Respond with FACTS how she affected your world and family personally.
She had no control over anyone here with her words, yet you chastise her as if she took the roof over your head and bread out of your children's mouths.
Sad.
Having an opposing view is a death sentence here as of late.
Been here under one name or another since 2003 and I have never felt such bad vibes on DU.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Schlafly shares a lot of blame for that.
Is that good enough for you?
I'll let others chime in with more.
Dreamweaver 5.0
(124 posts)What did she do?
She committed pen to paper as a citizen that held no power legislation wise.
Bill Orielly and Hannity do the same.
They preach and throw red meat to their audiences but in the big picture it means nothing.
It does not have any power over me unless I give them that power.