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Have you seen the new poster child for irony? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Aug 2016 OP
Like Lyndon LaRouche, they are all fakes, crybabies, and selfish pricks. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #1
Damn right! n/t ffr Aug 2016 #6
I have not yet met a Libertarian who doesn't abuse government services. They just don't want others. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #8
99% of "Libertarians" are authoritarian racist Social Darwinists. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #38
Hayak was a complete nut, attributing fascism to extreme liberalism. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #40
"And keep your paws off my Medicare!" Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2016 #2
But then they also 2naSalit Aug 2016 #3
exactly. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #13
They guy with the hat on looks like his amazed at the situation liberal N proud Aug 2016 #4
Ain't it the truth - Everyone hates the gov. until they need it packman Aug 2016 #5
I hear you rivegauche Aug 2016 #10
I tell people like that not to bother voting. Ligyron Aug 2016 #19
They don't understand irony. (NT) The Wizard Aug 2016 #7
They won't fund science that studies the beetles that make the forests drier, because it is science. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #9
Karma Gothmog Aug 2016 #11
There are towns that will let your house burn down if you haven't paid your fire tax Hekate Aug 2016 #12
I Remember That Story Too, Hekate ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #39
And then there was the Louisiana mayor who said hay rick Aug 2016 #14
He would argue that aren't part of the evil FEDERAL government. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #15
It used to really bug me watching the Teabillies riding around in their free electric government... marble falls Aug 2016 #16
Ha! I saw one of those in Costco ffr Aug 2016 #23
Republicans - pathetic RapSoDee Aug 2016 #33
I know and that at the same time part of the problem is they truly need to know they ... marble falls Aug 2016 #35
Randi Rhodes once let a libertarian rant himself into a total corner. byronius Aug 2016 #17
I'd like to have someone tell me the name Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #18
Of course, that's why Libertarians like Gary Johnson can act so high-and mighty skepticscott Aug 2016 #20
You said a mouthful... Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #28
Not only that skepticscott Aug 2016 #30
WELFARE RECIPIENT STEALING MY TAX DOLLARS!! ffr Aug 2016 #21
K&R... spanone Aug 2016 #22
Shirt's misspelled. Should say "freedumb". n/t SpankMe Aug 2016 #24
Love it when the tea party rages against the govt Motley13 Aug 2016 #25
Shaking a government employee with one hand kacekwl Aug 2016 #26
I always tell Libertarians genxlib Aug 2016 #27
Oohh, good one. Lunabell Aug 2016 #32
LOL, The Onion comes to life FSogol Aug 2016 #29
Excellent meme! Initech Aug 2016 #31
In all fairness genxlib Aug 2016 #34
K & R FailureToCommunicate Aug 2016 #36
These people are uneducated morons who have no clue what the government actually does. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #37

TheBlackAdder

(28,246 posts)
8. I have not yet met a Libertarian who doesn't abuse government services. They just don't want others.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

.


They are so happy to scam stuff for themselves, but when they see others doing it, they see it as taxes they pay.


As long as the money goes into their household, it's fine. Teachers, police, firefighters and township workers are taxes.


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Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
38. 99% of "Libertarians" are authoritarian racist Social Darwinists.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:27 AM
Aug 2016

When they talk about "freedom" they actually mean "letting the strong exploit the weak".

The left-over 1% is a tiny group of deluded academics regurgitating Von Mises, Hayek, and Rothbard.

TheBlackAdder

(28,246 posts)
40. Hayak was a complete nut, attributing fascism to extreme liberalism.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:07 AM
Aug 2016

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When you read The Road to Serfdom, or see the mini Reader's Digest version or the cartoon pictorial below, it are the Republicans who are the "planners" of society--trying to force people into following their vision of society, regardless of how cruel it is.


It's unfortunately a PDF, so make sure your AV is up to date.

http://www.goldonomic.com/hayekroadtoserfdom.pdf



Cartoon version:

https://fee.org/articles/the-essence-of-the-road-to-serfdom-in-cartoons/


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2naSalit

(86,906 posts)
3. But then they also
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:02 AM
Aug 2016

argue, belittle, bitch and whine about not being able to start a wildfire with their unattended campfire in a "no fires" zone.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. Ain't it the truth - Everyone hates the gov. until they need it
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:20 AM
Aug 2016

Well, maybe not everyone.

My son at one time was an off-the wall Repuke Rush Limbo dittohead ranting and railing against taxes (to the point of not paying them) and government being anti-business, we'd be better off with NO government., etc., etc. Really made me question what I did to raise that kind of thinker. THEN a hurricane hit his community and he was first in the FEMA line and first at the tent getting the blue tarps and water. Thankfully he moved on to saner political ground over the years.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
10. I hear you
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:54 AM
Aug 2016

My very Democratic parents raised a right-wing republican too. I dearly love my brother but he's a stupid blockhead about politics.. however, even he hates Trump. He also hates HRC so it looks like he will be voting for Johnson. (hahah, I encouraged this!)

Ligyron

(7,645 posts)
19. I tell people like that not to bother voting.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 03:36 PM
Aug 2016

I tell them it's all rigged by the government anyway and they'll just put you on jury duty for bothering to vote.

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
12. There are towns that will let your house burn down if you haven't paid your fire tax
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 12:10 PM
Aug 2016

That was a bizarre story from several years back that made it on to DU, and it comes from having all-volunteer firefighters. Okay, so the town saves on salaries and the volunteers are heroic, but guess what? They still need fire engines and related equipment. The volunteers don't come with buckets and garden hoses. So there is a special assessment, and you know how some people are chronically late with their bills because they are for instance out of work.

It really stuck in my mind because I have never in my entire life lived in an area that didn't have an actual Fire Department, possibly because in California we know fire doesn't stop at property lines.

This is a great pic and comment.

ProfessorGAC

(65,361 posts)
39. I Remember That Story Too, Hekate
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:31 AM
Aug 2016

I live in a town where the FD is volunteer, except for the EMT's and paramedics. But, they are funded well enough that the hardware is all top notch. We don't have a special tax for it though. It's just part of the city's cut of property taxes.

hay rick

(7,656 posts)
14. And then there was the Louisiana mayor who said
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 12:13 PM
Aug 2016

"We don't want a handout we want a hand up." Evidently that's what you call government money when it doesn't go to minorities.

marble falls

(57,447 posts)
16. It used to really bug me watching the Teabillies riding around in their free electric government...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:40 PM
Aug 2016

paid for carts with signs saying "no more free stuff."

ffr

(22,676 posts)
23. Ha! I saw one of those in Costco
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:13 PM
Aug 2016

He was wearing a Make America...Drumpf hat too. I was going to yell at him for being a hypocrite, but it wasn't the place for it and I wasn't going to be that guy in the crowd.

marble falls

(57,447 posts)
35. I know and that at the same time part of the problem is they truly need to know they ...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:41 AM
Aug 2016

aren't mainstream and don't speak for the majority of us.

byronius

(7,409 posts)
17. Randi Rhodes once let a libertarian rant himself into a total corner.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:44 PM
Aug 2016

She skillfully led him down the libertarian yellow brick road, allowing him to paint his weird rosy picture of libertarian paradise.

It ended up being a few million city-states, all in general conflict with each other for scarce resources. No military. No police, no nothing but 'I got mine' behind a concrete wall with a machine gun.

Then she asked him the kicker -- "What happens when the Chinese decide to invade?"

Long pause. "Well," said the simple-minded feller, "that's up to them."

Libertarian paradise lasts as long as it takes for an authoritarian nation to decide it shouldn't. Nature rewards cooperation; whoever practices it survives, whoever does not, does not.

So really, in the end, it's all self-immolation for fun and profit.

Blue Idaho

(5,067 posts)
18. I'd like to have someone tell me the name
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 03:30 PM
Aug 2016

Of one successful nation on this planet that operates under liberatarian principles.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
20. Of course, that's why Libertarians like Gary Johnson can act so high-and mighty
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:10 PM
Aug 2016

about their principles of "personal freedom" and "minimal government". They know they will never actually have to try to govern by them.

It's just amazing to me that people who once supported Sanders could even imagine voting for a Libertarian based on any kind of principle. If you're any kind of progressive, any kind of a decent human being, you can't look at how the Libertarian party thinks society should run without thinking that it's abhorrent.

Blue Idaho

(5,067 posts)
28. You said a mouthful...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 08:28 PM
Aug 2016

How any progressive can look at the anarchy of libratarianism and connect that Sanders is beyond me. In a Libratarian world you are truly on your own. Pretty much the exact opposit of universal heal care, college for all, rebuilding crumbling infrastructure, and a whole host of other issues that progressives agree on.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
30. Not only that
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 08:44 PM
Aug 2016

but Libertarians would have us go back to Jim Crow. Although they condemn racism and bigotry in a theoretical way, they believe that government has no business passing or enforcing anti-discrimination laws. They believe that any owner of a hotel, restaurant, store, apartment building or whatever should be able to put out a sign that says "Whites only" or "Jews not welcome". Their "solution" to the problem of bigotry is that if enough people don't like it, they can boycott an establishment like that and put it out of business. Of course, if there are enough people to support a business like that, the Libertarian response is "oh, well".

If you peel off the phony veneer of their platform, it stinks to high heaven almost everywhere.

ffr

(22,676 posts)
21. WELFARE RECIPIENT STEALING MY TAX DOLLARS!!
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:10 PM
Aug 2016


And don't think for a second people like this idiot wouldn't be screaming the same thing at their Fox TV sets if this image showed a black or histpanic or other non-white person in it instead of them.

Need any other type of motivation to GOTV in 2016/2018? Just more ammunition to fuel the democratic wave that keeps building day by day.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
25. Love it when the tea party rages against the govt
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:24 PM
Aug 2016

but they don't mind taking their pay for just voting no & going home.


kacekwl

(7,025 posts)
26. Shaking a government employee with one hand
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:00 PM
Aug 2016

filing a claim against the county for ruining his lawn and getting his roof wet with the other. Probably get him a shinny New pick up out of the deal.

FSogol

(45,580 posts)
29. LOL, The Onion comes to life
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 08:31 PM
Aug 2016
Libertarian Reluctantly Calls Fire Department
NEWS IN BRIEF
April 21, 2004
Vol 40 Issue 16 Politics

CHEYENNE, WY—After attempting to contain a living-room blaze started by a cigarette, card-carrying Libertarian Trent Jacobs reluctantly called the Cheyenne Fire Department Monday. "Although the community would do better to rely on an efficient, free-market fire-fighting service, the fact is that expensive, unnecessary public fire departments do exist," Jacobs said. "Also, my house was burning down." Jacobs did not offer to pay firefighters for their service.


Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
37. These people are uneducated morons who have no clue what the government actually does.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:20 AM
Aug 2016

Remember the "keep government hands off my medicare!" woman?

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