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sheshe2

(83,815 posts)
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:08 AM Aug 2016

Please stop the Dementia and Alzheimer attacks.

Donald Trump is a lot of things. He is a misogynistic racist asshole that incites violence. He is one of the most despicable men I will ever know. There is no low that is low enough for him. That is a fact and attack him to your hearts delight on it. Yet please leave the dementia and Alzheimer out of it.

It is the ugliest disease. They lose there minds. They lose their memories. It hurts them as the struggle to remember it devastates you when you know they can't, yet they can't and never will again. In the end they will not know you. Then they die with that blank expression on their face, yet you hold their hand as they pass.

I held my dads hand for hours as he slipped away.

I ask you please to stop.

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Please stop the Dementia and Alzheimer attacks. (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2016 OP
I wish I could hug you.... Avalux Aug 2016 #1
Thank you Avalux. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #3
It is a full time gut punch watching someone's mind being robbed by elderly dementia. FrodosPet Aug 2016 #2
The only interesting thing of my grandma's... a la izquierda Aug 2016 #9
Yes. You are absolutely right. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #4
It's always very tempting to medicalize an asshole Warpy Aug 2016 #5
Did Freud really say that? True Dough Aug 2016 #11
He said sometimes a cigar is only a cigar. nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #12
It's been a little over a huge since my dad's death from dementia. I've missed him for several yrs. uppityperson Aug 2016 #6
... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #15
A truly hideous disease. brer cat Aug 2016 #7
My grandmother had Lewy-body dementia. a la izquierda Aug 2016 #8
Sorry, but that's nonsense jberryhill Aug 2016 #10
100% correct Orrex Aug 2016 #13
There are variations of this every cycle jberryhill Aug 2016 #14
So sorry your father suffered that indignity. nt Francis Booth Aug 2016 #16
Kick this SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #17
I agree that this line of attack is used much too often. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #18

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. I wish I could hug you....
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:10 AM
Aug 2016

my grandfather had dementia and forgot who I was....it's a horrible condition. I'm sorry people's zeal to make fun of Trump has hurt you.

sheshe2

(83,815 posts)
3. Thank you Avalux.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:27 AM
Aug 2016

They can call him what they want. Just not that. I don't care for what they are saying about Hillary either. It is low and cruel.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
9. The only interesting thing of my grandma's...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:29 AM
Aug 2016

experience was that she became fluent in Italian again. She stopped speaking the language in the '40s to become more American and patriotic.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
4. Yes. You are absolutely right.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:52 AM
Aug 2016

Donald Trump is many despicable things, but to try to explain his behavior to dementia is pure ignorance. That man knows exactly what he is doing. He does NOT suffer from dementia.

Similarly, the notion that he's playing some sort of complicated game to insure that Hillary Clinton become President is likewise ludicrous. He's in this to win. Which I hope does not happen. But suggesting he'll throw the election, or pull out of it before November is truly dumb.

Candidates live inside a bubble. He's being told every day that he's going to win, and he believes that. Whatever polls show him behind he either never sees, or are explained away to him. No candidate ever thinks he or she will lose.

So please understand that Trump is running what he thinks is his best possible campaign.

Oh, and in all truth, you really, really want him to stay in. The last thing you want is that the Republicans replace with him with someone who could potentially beat Clinton. Really, you don't want that.

Warpy

(111,292 posts)
5. It's always very tempting to medicalize an asshole
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:56 AM
Aug 2016

but to paraphrase Freud, sometimes an asshole is only an asshole.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
8. My grandmother had Lewy-body dementia.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:28 AM
Aug 2016

I watched her die. It was absolutely atrocious for her and for my mother, who was closest to her.
The Trump-Alzheimer's posts here are appalling.

Sorry or the loss of your dad.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. Sorry, but that's nonsense
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:35 AM
Aug 2016

My dad had it too. I know what it is like as you do.

So did Ronald Reagan.

Neither of them should have been president.

If a candidate exhibits signs of dementia, then they are unfit to be president.

That is not an "attack" on everyone with it. It is a legitimate concern relative to a job which requires sound mental faculties.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
13. 100% correct
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 08:31 AM
Aug 2016

No one is saying "Lochte forgot his story because he has Alzheimer's," which would be a flippant and insensitive mockery of that terrible illness.

Instead--as you note--people express a legitimate and profound concern about the mental competence of a current presidential candidate. Far from being cruel or insensitive, it's an entirely reasonable response to our current situation.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. There are variations of this every cycle
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 08:58 AM
Aug 2016

People suffer from all kinds of things... schizophrenia, alcoholism, dementia, whatever. They are all awful debilitating afflictions, but I'm not interested in having a president who has any of them.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
17. Kick this
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
Aug 2016

Some of these threads could be on Free Republic if you just switched the names. We don't need to stoop to their level. Thanks for the post.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. I agree that this line of attack is used much too often.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:23 PM
Aug 2016

However, sometimes it seems appropriate. Like when Giuliani claims, with a straight face, that there were no Islamic terror attacks prior to Obama's presidency, I don't think early-onset dementia can be ruled out as an explanation.

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