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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:16 PM Jul 2016

Cop shoots caretaker of autistic man playing in the street, caretaker had hands up

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article90905442.html

Cop shoots caretaker of autistic man playing in the street with toy truck

Cellphone video shows the man on ground with hands in the air

As the worker lays there, the autistic man continues to play with his toy

There’s no indication a weapon of any type was found at the scene

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article90905442.html#storylink=cpy

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“Sir, there’s no need for firearms,” Kinsey told the news station he said to police before he was shot. “It was so surprising. It was like a mosquito bite.”

Kinsey said when he asked the officer why he fired his weapon, the cop responded, “I don’t know.”

By Wednesday, North Miami police hadn’t offered much of an explanation. Assistant Police Chief Neal Cuevas said the investigation has been turned over to the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office.

Cuevas said officers received a 911 call indicating a man was in the street with a gun threatening to kill himself. They responded to Northeast 127th Street and about 14th Avenue and began barking orders. When the autistic man didn’t comply, an officer fired three times, striking Kinsey once in the leg. He was transported to Jackson Memorial Hospital.

Cuevas said he didn’t know who the officer was aiming at when he struck Kinsey. The offier’s name hasn’t been released.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article90905442.html#storylink=cpy


A behavioral therapist trying to help his autistic patient was shot by police while lying on the ground with his arms raised in the air. A video recorded on a cell phone, which you can watch above, shows the moments before the shooting in North Miami, Florida.

The victim, Charles Kinsey, who is black, is recovering in the hospital, WSVN-TV reports. The news station obtained the video of the Monday shooting on Wednesday.

Kinsey’s attorney, Harold Napoleon, also provided the full video to the Miami Herald. You can watch it below:
http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/charles-kinsey-north-miami-shot-by-police-shooting-video-arms-up-unarmed-autistic-patient-rinaldo-officer-name/


Kinsey’s attorney, Hilton Napoleon, told the Miami Herald he is in settlement talks with the city.
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Cop shoots caretaker of autistic man playing in the street, caretaker had hands up (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 OP
Cop had his finger on the trigger Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #1
The cop fired 3 shots. NutmegYankee Jul 2016 #15
There goes THAT scenario alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #22
Not really Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #25
Resulting in the "accidental" pulling of the trigger three times without realizing it? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #19
What's the name, again, of that one "good apple?" villager Jul 2016 #2
When was the shot fired? ohnoyoudidnt Jul 2016 #3
Is this a "wait for all the facts" plea? ecstatic Jul 2016 #8
Not at all ohnoyoudidnt Jul 2016 #16
obviously the brother just wasn't deferential enuff KG Jul 2016 #4
Like L.A. Police Chief Daryl Gates said, black parents need to teach their kids how to get arrested. Iggo Jul 2016 #23
"I don't know." Aristus Jul 2016 #5
Pure racism...hope they sue the dept out of existence.. HipChick Jul 2016 #6
So glad he lived to give his side. Unbelievable! SMH nt ecstatic Jul 2016 #7
Fucking cops. Iggo Jul 2016 #9
I hope he sues their collective assess off. lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #10
"asked the officer why he fired his weapon, the cop responded, “I don’t know.” "... I do :-( uponit7771 Jul 2016 #11
OMG... they could've killed him easily... incompetent stupid ass's uponit7771 Jul 2016 #12
They tried to. Iggo Jul 2016 #13
Holy Jesus Flipping Hamburgers Calculating Jul 2016 #14
That'll sure teach him not to be obedient and compliant Orrex Jul 2016 #17
This needs to be turned over to the FBI and federal authorities Exilednight Jul 2016 #18
I am beyond trying to figure out how this even possible etherealtruth Jul 2016 #20
2016: We're Going to #alllivesmatter The Living Shit Out of You! HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #21
When I saw that the city is settling with the victim, I thought I somehow missed this story. Ace Rothstein Jul 2016 #24
LA Sheriff's settled very quickly with the guy who ran from Sheriff on horse back & beaten on camera Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #27
Actual white guy with a gun lapfog_1 Jul 2016 #26
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. Cop had his finger on the trigger
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jul 2016

Poor training. Probably did not even realize he squeezed it. They draw weapons way too often.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. Resulting in the "accidental" pulling of the trigger three times without realizing it?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jul 2016

Resulting in the "accidental" pulling of the trigger three times without realizing it?

Damned creative speculation.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
3. When was the shot fired?
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jul 2016

There appears to be a gap in the video between .40 and .41 seconds. I don't see any reason for a shot to be fired and the cop probably did fuck up, but it looks like something is missing in the video.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
23. Like L.A. Police Chief Daryl Gates said, black parents need to teach their kids how to get arrested.
Reply to KG (Reply #4)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jul 2016

Seriously. The chief of police said that.

I mean, I'm not stupid. I kinda always knew.

But when that happened, there was no more "kinda" about it.

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
5. "I don't know."
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jul 2016

The cops said that instead of: "Because you're black, of course. What else was I supposed to do?"

That would have been too on-the-nose...

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
9. Fucking cops.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jul 2016

Where's the good cops in this story?

There's actual video of a cop trying to kill someone who's not resisting, who has his hands in the air.

Cop-apologists tell me most cops are good cops. Well? Where are they? Where are the good cops in this story?

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
14. Holy Jesus Flipping Hamburgers
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jul 2016

What is going on with all the trigger happy police lately?

Guy has his hands up.
No weapon on the scene.
Cop still shoots him.

"I don't know why I shot him"
-The cop

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
17. That'll sure teach him not to be obedient and compliant
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jul 2016

What else do these black men expect is going to happen when they flagrantly do exactly what the cops are telling them to do?



Holy shit.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
18. This needs to be turned over to the FBI and federal authorities
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jul 2016

Should stop letting states investigate themselves.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
20. I am beyond trying to figure out how this even possible
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jul 2016

At some point we need to attract and recruit higher caliber people and provide more training .... I have so little faith in those in LE now

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
21. 2016: We're Going to #alllivesmatter The Living Shit Out of You!
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jul 2016

I'd sure like to hear from the first penisy asshole who justifies this bullshit.


Ace Rothstein

(3,161 posts)
24. When I saw that the city is settling with the victim, I thought I somehow missed this story.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jul 2016

Then I see it just happened. This has to be the quickest settlement of all time.

When is the cop going to be fired and arrested?

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
26. Actual white guy with a gun
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jul 2016


As opposed to autistic guy with a toy truck and a black caretaker, ON HIS BACK with his hands up and trying to tell the police that this isn't a person with a gun. Who gets shot 3 times? The black guy on his back with his hands up.

Can't wait to see the defense on this case.
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