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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:03 PM Jul 2016

FOX NEWS IN FREEFALL: Hannity, O’Reilly, And Greta May Leave If Roger Ailes Is Fired

Let it be so!

http://www.liberalamerica.org/2016/07/20/report-hannity-oreilly-greta-may-leave-fox-news-roger-ailes-fired/

FOX NEWS IN FREEFALL: Hannity, O’Reilly, And Greta May Leave If Roger Ailes Is Fired

By Andrew Bradford on July 20, 2016


Things may be about to get very messy over at Fox News. It has been reported in recent days that embattled CEO Roger Ailes will soon be pushed out due to allegations of sexual harassment from several women who work or have worked at Fox over the years, and now there’s news that some of the networks biggest stars may also bolt if Ailes is given the ax.

CNN Money is reporting this morning that should Ailes be removed–which is expected to take place this week–three of the most well-known names at Fox News, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, and Greta Van Susteren, have clauses in their contracts which would also allow them to terminate their relationship with the right-wing news channel. All three have been vocal in their support of Ailes.

Which begs the question: How would Fox fare if three of their most valuable brand names suddenly leave and take their services elsewhere? Also, who exactly would hire them and give them primetime slots like they have at Fox News? MSNBC? Highly unlikely? CNN? That also seems a stretch.

Additionally, why exactly are Hannity, O’Reilly, and Van Susteren defending a man who has been accused of sexually harassing at last a half-dozen different women? Most notably, why would Van Susteren, a woman, be rushing to support Ailes when such charges have been leveled against him?

If indeed Ailes is removed as the head of Fox News and the three big names leave with him, you can expect ratings for the GOP’s favorite network to decline precipitously, perhaps leading to freefall and crisis at Fox.

Hey, sounds like a dream come true!

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FOX NEWS IN FREEFALL: Hannity, O’Reilly, And Greta May Leave If Roger Ailes Is Fired (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2016 OP
Easy. Replace them with a shit flinging monkey and televise it. No one will Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #1
LOL! Another day at the San Antonio Zoo. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #12
lmao sarae Jul 2016 #15
Excellent suggestion! lonestarnot Jul 2016 #65
LOL. That's great. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #68
But would George W. Bush really be able to pull in decent ratings? cstanleytech Jul 2016 #82
. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #83
They would be... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #2
I'm sure you're right... sarae Jul 2016 #16
You think so? Warpy Jul 2016 #17
The kids hate Ailes. Rupert is doddering now. They'll make sure things change, Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #55
Interesting, Ikonoklast. I could definitely see Hortensis Jul 2016 #75
I could see Greta or perhaps even Hannity going to CNN. BlueEye Jul 2016 #56
RE: "Not MSNBC, which has a liberal target audience" thesquanderer Jul 2016 #57
Agree - MSNBC is owned by Comcast rurallib Jul 2016 #70
They're not going anywhere LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #84
When Trump loses, he is going to start his own network, as has been reported. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #47
In the words of Willy Wonka: Chasstev365 Jul 2016 #3
Sadly, it's only a dream. n/t jaysunb Jul 2016 #4
One can only hope. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2016 #33
I'd rather all of the foul smelling poo be piled up karadax Jul 2016 #5
Good riddance. Take Trump with you. He stupidly came out in support of Ailes. bullimiami Jul 2016 #6
There are lots of morons willing to step up and take their places. Koinos Jul 2016 #7
They have enough money anyway. lpbk2713 Jul 2016 #8
please! spanone Jul 2016 #9
The barn door is big enough for all those.... imanamerican63 Jul 2016 #10
They'll bring back Glenn Beckkk. Dawson Leery Jul 2016 #11
... imanamerican63 Jul 2016 #13
A true friend of Ailes would set the building on fire as they left. NightWatcher Jul 2016 #14
I don't believe for one second Ailes was the only one involved in harrassment. Kingofalldems Jul 2016 #18
O'Loofah certainly has a history. teamster633 Jul 2016 #43
Probably why O'Reilly, Hannity, and van Susterin will have to grab their hats and run. Zen Democrat Jul 2016 #46
... Cirque du So-What Jul 2016 #19
Lol! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #27
The groups lechery issues will probably increase viewers for Republicans fox TV Sunlei Jul 2016 #20
Good, oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #21
Ailes would have inserted these clauses in the contracts to protect himself The Second Stone Jul 2016 #22
some reports brettdale Jul 2016 #24
She can get out of a contract on the basis of constructive discharge due to The Second Stone Jul 2016 #32
Where are they going? malaise Jul 2016 #23
They have clauses in their contract, but that doesn't mean they're going to Exilednight Jul 2016 #25
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya! muntrv Jul 2016 #26
They make too much money to quit left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #28
Those high paid racists won't leave. They'll ask for more money or even vie for Ailes' post. Hoyt Jul 2016 #29
They'll do everything to keep O'Reilly. Hannity and Greta they could do without. underpants Jul 2016 #35
Egg-zactly! zentrum Jul 2016 #36
cry babies....let them go... chillfactor Jul 2016 #30
I love how some of the men at Fox boldly spoke about jot being harassed. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #31
Doubt they'll quit. zentrum Jul 2016 #34
Yep, this is just them grandstanding. progressoid Jul 2016 #63
That would help us during this election season... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #37
All 3 will have no problem 840high Jul 2016 #38
Are you going to follow them to their new station? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #64
Does this mean Scott Baio has a chance elmac Jul 2016 #39
Score! babylonsister Jul 2016 #48
I'm afraid that's just wishful thinking on our part. Shrike47 Jul 2016 #40
... Different Drummer Jul 2016 #41
I'll take any of their jobs and do it as well as them. ffr Jul 2016 #42
maybe mehrrh Jul 2016 #44
Oh that would just be devastating. Libby2 Jul 2016 #45
Frankly, IDGAF... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #49
Thanks be to Ceiling Cat! shenmue Jul 2016 #50
Nobody wants them. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #51
They make too much $$ to leave. riversedge Jul 2016 #52
Hannity, O'Reilly and Greta Oh My! applegrove Jul 2016 #53
If they could replace all the stars on the Dukes of Hazzard wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #54
Hope Jeanne Pirro is outta there too. apcalc Jul 2016 #58
she could be the worst of the bunch RussBLib Jul 2016 #81
Who would hire any of these three? Gothmog Jul 2016 #59
I'll believe the end of Fox when I see it. LeftRant Jul 2016 #60
Put down the mic and walk away from a live camera? lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #61
Oh well Botany Jul 2016 #62
Maybe they can find a valley hidden by a hologram and no one will ever see them again.... Festivito Jul 2016 #66
Good. Good riddance to those propagandistic, bombastic wind bags! PatrickforO Jul 2016 #67
While they're at it they need to stop fucking with Australia. forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #71
I hope it's true. Nitram Jul 2016 #69
SS Roger Ailes sinking - Rats won't be missed packman Jul 2016 #72
I call them on that bull$hit! No one else would pay them dae Jul 2016 #73
just more grand proclimations from tools who enjoy overinflated paychecks Javaman Jul 2016 #74
I have a hard time believing that yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #76
no way - where would they go? DrDan Jul 2016 #77
New Position for Trump jaxind Jul 2016 #78
So where are they threatening to go? keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #79
Don't let the door hit you on your ass ! Cosmic Dancer Jul 2016 #80
Why would they leave? Who else will pay them 8 figures? bermudat Jul 2016 #85
Meh. Foxnews cultists will watch whatever they replace those 3 shitheads with. Rex Jul 2016 #86
They'll never quit. The Baron Harkonnen would remove their heart plugs TrollBuster9090 Jul 2016 #87
A consummation devoutly to be wished... malthaussen Jul 2016 #88
They're out once the Murdoch Juniors get control anyway... JHB Jul 2016 #89
What makes you say that? melman Jul 2016 #91
Isn't it ironic? kentuck Jul 2016 #90
Concerned: What if they all morph into a new extra-creepy clustermuck? Alex4Martinez Jul 2016 #92
Who? From where? Sorry, unfamiliar with that show. chknltl Jul 2016 #93

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
2. They would be...
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jul 2016

...hired at MSNBC or CNN... for ratings appeal. The stumbling block would be money - I'm sure those three are very highly paid. This is also a reason why they would stay at FOX, after negotiating a big pay increase and new non-Ailes contract!

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
17. You think so?
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jul 2016

I don't. Hannity and O'Reilly will likely head to hate radio with occasional forays doing comments for other cable news.

However, I sincerely doubt they'll be out unless they're forced out or carried out feet first.

Their ratings appeal is quite limited. Their demographic is the same as the rest of the Pox demographic and that's the problem for the Murdoch kiddies. They see the old audience dying off. They want to bring propaganda to Gen X.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
55. The kids hate Ailes. Rupert is doddering now. They'll make sure things change,
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

The kids know the Fox target audience is dying off and aren't being replaced as the younger gens aren't drinking the right-wing koolaid.



They will need to move to the middle in order to survive after Trump loses as the Republican party fragments between rigid nutcase political and social extremists and pragmatists who want to win elections.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
75. Interesting, Ikonoklast. I could definitely see
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jul 2016

that, though I'm guessing it might occur over a few years.

Btw, of course those three wouldn't leave out of loyalty to anyone just because their contracts would allow it. They're all sharks. If one leaves it'll be because of changes, though.

BlueEye

(449 posts)
56. I could see Greta or perhaps even Hannity going to CNN.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jul 2016

Not MSNBC, which has a liberal target audience. CNN on the other hand, has a centrist audience but has also embraced the "partisans on both sides" model, into which those two might fit.

O'Riley will keep spewing his hate at Fox until he's ready to retire. He's too despised to go to another network, and too old to remodel his career.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
57. RE: "Not MSNBC, which has a liberal target audience"
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jul 2016

I'd say MSNBC is not committed to any particular philosophy, and will turn on a dime if they see the right profit potential. They could "mix and match" for a while ("Hannity! Maddow! Fair and balanced for real!&quot and see how it goes from there.

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
70. Agree - MSNBC is owned by Comcast
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jul 2016

which is hardly liberal and could care less about liberals.
They have toothpaste and reverse mortgages to sell and an internet to take over.

the bottom line is their god.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
84. They're not going anywhere
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jul 2016

Sure they could keep their Hate Radio gigs, and start one if they don't already have one. But these assholes crave the spotlight. The kind of glittering, celebrity spotlight that only TV can offer. Not to mention the money. Its all a last gasp effort to declare their loyalty to Ailes and the kind of rightwing agenda he pushes for them to follow.

karadax

(284 posts)
5. I'd rather all of the foul smelling poo be piled up
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jul 2016

In the same place. More chances of stepping in it if it's spread out in smaller piles.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
8. They have enough money anyway.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jul 2016



They don't need to work another day in their miserable lives.
And they would love to give the appearance of going out as martyrs.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
22. Ailes would have inserted these clauses in the contracts to protect himself
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jul 2016

and the fact that all three supposedly have them means that they were likely (but not certainly) leaked by Ailes in hopes of saving his own ass. I very much doubt that the three would exercise such a clause, as it is not in their interest to do so to support a serial harasser.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
32. She can get out of a contract on the basis of constructive discharge due to
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

hostile work environment. But I don't see that she would want to. Even if Ailes stays, his harassment will be limited to his mere presence as a known harasser. He can't get away with shit actively anywhere he works anymore.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
25. They have clauses in their contract, but that doesn't mean they're going to
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jul 2016

Exercise them and stop sucking off the teet of Fux News.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
28. They make too much money to quit
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jul 2016

A new leadership may fire them, but I doubt they'll willing leave all that money.

underpants

(182,802 posts)
35. They'll do everything to keep O'Reilly. Hannity and Greta they could do without.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Hannity got bumped out of his 9pm timeslot in favor of Megyn Kelly. Who knows when Greta is on?

O'Reilky is a ratings giant. He is the flagship for the whole network. They will back up the money truck for him.

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
30. cry babies....let them go...
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jul 2016

drum roll...... they are all biased, racist, bigoted,sexist jackasses.....not journalists..

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
34. Doubt they'll quit.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

At the height of the the election and when they are making millions——they'll stay.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
42. I'll take any of their jobs and do it as well as them.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jul 2016

It's called whoring out yourself for money.

Heck, I could say all the things they do. Write me a script. I'll play along and make millions $$$ for telling brainwashed idiot listeners what they want and need to hear. Anyone could. But I won't. Fuck Fox. They need to implode.

mehrrh

(233 posts)
44. maybe
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016

I heard that too and it is probably true, however, the egomaniacs of Fox will have time to weigh loyalty to Ailes and their multi million dollar contracts with Fox ... I suspect loyalty to Ailes will be strictly in the short term and I will be surprised if they exercise that clause to leave the Fox cash cow.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
54. If they could replace all the stars on the Dukes of Hazzard
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jul 2016

I am sure they can do it at faux.

Saving them a boat load of money at the same time

Anyone can read talking points and that's all the smug bastards do at faux spews anyway.

But if Ailes is fired you can bet all the rumors of these yucks leaving in solidarity will fade away

Multi million dollar paychecks along with big perks, is something they would never voluntarily walk away from.

Gothmog

(145,225 posts)
59. Who would hire any of these three?
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jul 2016

Fox News is the only place where these idiots could find work. Who would hire these idiots?

LeftRant

(524 posts)
60. I'll believe the end of Fox when I see it.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jul 2016

All of these people will find a way to keep pushing the agenda; it's their bread and butter.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
66. Maybe they can find a valley hidden by a hologram and no one will ever see them again....
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

I prefer stories to have happy endings. (-;

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
67. Good. Good riddance to those propagandistic, bombastic wind bags!
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jul 2016

Murdoch's kids need to CLEAN house at Fox and bring it back to the center.

I mean, we're seeing the horror of years of right wing hate-fear propaganda right at the Republican convention. It's got to stop. Overturning the Fairness Doctrine was a REALLY BAD IDEA.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
71. While they're at it they need to stop fucking with Australia.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jul 2016

I have Aussie friends and they hate Murdoch as much as we do here and they haven't seen a SECOND of Faux "News".

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
72. SS Roger Ailes sinking - Rats won't be missed
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jul 2016


But it will never happen - It's all about money and much will be thrown at them.

dae

(3,396 posts)
73. I call them on that bull$hit! No one else would pay them
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jul 2016

close to what FOX does. The greedy ba$tards would kill Ailes to keep their jobs.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
74. just more grand proclimations from tools who enjoy overinflated paychecks
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jul 2016

for promoting stupidity.

they won't leave.

the king is dead, long live the king and all that bullshit.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
76. I have a hard time believing that
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jul 2016

Hannity, O’Reilly and all will leave. Do they have enough money to retire? Aren't they the type who will demand more money and get it? Someone promised if Obama was voted into office he would leave.. Guess what, he is still there. Republican's are liars and grifters.. They will find a way to get their raise.. just like a good NFL Quarterback will hold out for more money. If he is good at what he does, he will likely get it.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
78. New Position for Trump
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016

Trump should forget about trying for the presidency, and take Ailes' job instead!!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
86. Meh. Foxnews cultists will watch whatever they replace those 3 shitheads with.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jul 2016

You could just duct tape a stick with shit on it in an anchor chair and play a pre-recorded tape of some idiot bashing ANY Dem and the cultists won't notice any difference.

Maybe one or two will comment on how O'Reilly looking better then ever, but that is about it. I doubt they even notice the change out.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
87. They'll never quit. The Baron Harkonnen would remove their heart plugs
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jul 2016

ie-cut off their money supply. Let's be honest. They, like most of the conservative chattering class are only in this business for the money, which flows freely from their plutocrat masters. They couldn't really care less about the ideology, which is pretty thin to begin with.



Watch, as Rupert Murdoch and his son tell Sean Hannity "Forget Ailes, you're working for us now."

JHB

(37,160 posts)
89. They're out once the Murdoch Juniors get control anyway...
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jul 2016

...so this would be a great opportunity to frame their inevitable departure as righteous, unbearable indignation, rather than getting handed their walking papers.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
92. Concerned: What if they all morph into a new extra-creepy clustermuck?
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jul 2016

I mean that's a potential problem, we're left with Fox AND get some new news organization that's just as bad as the old Fox or even worse?

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