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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:36 AM Jun 2012

Victim 4’ testifies as Sandusky’s sex-abuse trial opens (abuse, love letters, contracts...)

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"At the time I had never showered with anyone before," he said. "It was kind of weird to take showers in front of other people."

They quickly evolved into naked wrestling, touching, and eventually oral sex, he said. When they were driving together in a car, Sandusky would routinely reach over and massage his thighs.

"Basically like I was his girlfriend," Victim 4 testified. "It freaked me out."
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Amendola would likely rely on that testimony to explain a series of what Victim 4 described Monday as "creepy love letters" Sandusky wrote him as he attempted to break off contact with the former coach.

"I know that I have made my share of mistakes," one of the letters read. "I hope that I will be able to say that I cared. There has been love in my heart."
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At one point, Sandusky drew up a contract on Second Mile letterhead that offered the youth money in exchange for focusing on class work and spending time working out. The document also required that Victim 4 meet with Sandusky weekly.

"It was him basically trying to force me to spend time with him," the man said.
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Much more:
http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&etMailToID=1099063759

Love letters? Contracts? Sandusky is a pedophile and a complete idiot. (The letters were in Sandusky's handwriting and on PSU letterhead.)
His lawyer says he will testify. That will not end well.

There appears to be a lot of evidence such as the letters that corroborate the testimony. And contracts? Did he use Legal Zoom For Perverts? This is only after ONE accuser.

I think he should have taken a plea deal. Sandusky has to be betting there is one juror who will
vote not guilty.

Just reading about what happened makes me want to go through a Navajo cleansing ritual or something. A bath doesn't seem to be enough.



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Victim 4’ testifies as Sandusky’s sex-abuse trial opens (abuse, love letters, contracts...) (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 OP
If there was any shred, no matter how small, of decency in that man XemaSab Jun 2012 #1
at the very least he would plead guilty Skittles Jun 2012 #4
Gawd almighty! Throw away the key! secondwind Jun 2012 #2
letters? in HIS HANDWRITING? that corroborate this devilry??? ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2012 #3
There was a 'legal expert' on teevee Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #5
i don't think that will help sandusky barbtries Jun 2012 #6
I think you are right in general. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #7
Unless he specifically mentions sex or sexual contact, the letters don't corroborate sexual abuse. TalkingDog Jun 2012 #8
news 'legal experts' are full of shit most of the time anyway... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #10
i can't imagine he will take the stand. mopinko Jun 2012 #9

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
3. letters? in HIS HANDWRITING? that corroborate this devilry???
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 04:37 AM
Jun 2012

holy cow...as you say, this "will not end well." it makes him MORE of an ass that he is making these people testify in court KNOWING that this shit exists. he is STILL exerting power and control over his victims...shitbag.

sP

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
5. There was a 'legal expert' on teevee
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:37 AM
Jun 2012

giving his opinion. He said that the prosecution would have a very hard time because of little corroboration.
Excuse me Mr.Expert, did you not see those love letters in Sandusky's handwriting? Those alone are some very powerful evidence. Then there are the contracts.

If those aren't corroboration, then I don't know what is.

I don't think it's a slam dunk because of the jury. Most of them have ties to PSU. IMHO there should have been a change of venue. I realize that no area would be free of PSU influence and the news of the abuse charges. However, conducting the trial in the PSU area guarantees that many jurors will be close to the case in some way.


barbtries

(28,789 posts)
6. i don't think that will help sandusky
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:05 AM
Jun 2012

unless there's some sort of overarching pedophile culture at PSU, i don't see people associated with the school being soft on him. he besmirched their name. i don't see them wanting to do him any favors.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
7. I think you are right in general.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:12 AM
Jun 2012

However, it only takes one juror to think he's innocent and not give in. That's what the defense is hoping for.



TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
8. Unless he specifically mentions sex or sexual contact, the letters don't corroborate sexual abuse.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:58 AM
Jun 2012

That means there is room for reasonable doubt.

Read the letter as if you didn't know the back story or even the people involved. If you can't tell who the parties are or any specifics involving abuse, then they merely become circumstantial evidence.

Corroboration will come with witnesses.

It may not seem right, but that is how justice works.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. news 'legal experts' are full of shit most of the time anyway...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:35 AM
Jun 2012

and they LOVE to make a name for themselves by "going against the grain" -- Some jaggoff on ABC was yammering about how the prosecutor's charges were too broad, too strong, and the crimes were too old, etc before I changed the channel...

If it were up to the 'legal experts', George Zimmerman would never have been arrested...

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
9. i can't imagine he will take the stand.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jun 2012

they will continue to say that he will, but in the end, he wont. there is just too much to lose, and no way he can do himself any good.

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