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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:37 PM Apr 2016

Here’s the Map That Shows Why the GOP Is Freaking Out About Trump

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/31/Here-s-Map-Shows-Why-GOP-Freaking-Out-About-Trump

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Just how bad would a Donald Trump candidacy be for the Republican Party’s chances of winning the White House in 2017? The team at the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics threw its usual caution to the wind on Thursday and took its best guess at how the 50 states and D.C. would break when Electoral College votes are parceled out, assuming the Democrats nominate Hillary Clinton and the GOP nominates Trump. It’s not a pretty picture for Republicans.

Writing on the Sabato’s Crystal Ball website, Larry Sabato, Kyle Kondik, and Geoffrey Skelley summed up the results this way: “Election analysts prefer close elections, but there was nothing we could do to make this one close.”

The Crystal Ball analysis shows Clinton with 347 votes (she would need 270 to win) and Trump with only 191.



A key point about the Sabato team’s analysis is that in a Trump v. Clinton matchup, every single change to the map favors Clinton. The Center on Politics rates states on a seven-point scale, with “Safe,” “Likely,” and “Leans” ratings for each party, and a “Toss-Up” category in the middle. All 14 changes either moved toss-up states into the Democratic column or signified a weaker GOP hold on states in its column.

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Stop freaking out about Trump having a chance, and stop using Trump as a boogeyman as a silly argument to sway voters away from Hillary to Sanders.

Hell, I'm a Sanders guy, but it's getting silly around here. Trump hasn't got a chance no matter who wins the Democratic nomination. Period.

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Here’s the Map That Shows Why the GOP Is Freaking Out About Trump (Original Post) FLPanhandle Apr 2016 OP
It isn't that Trump is dangerous and could win FBaggins Apr 2016 #1
Frankly, that's bullshit FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #2
Agree 100% gollygee Apr 2016 #10
I agree. peace13 Apr 2016 #6
Trump's nomination is threatening GOP control of the House too. FSogol Apr 2016 #3
Trump is the greatest thing to happen to the Democrats in a long time FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #5
Here is hoping we can maximize on it! peace13 Apr 2016 #7
Finally, a way to get back at congress! Why should only voters be miserable with the choices? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #4
If it is Clinton vs Trump - Trump wins... TheProgressive Apr 2016 #8
Except that we're dealing with criminals. sofa king Apr 2016 #9
I know it's absurd of me, but I'm starting to worry about Trump renate Apr 2016 #11

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
2. Frankly, that's bullshit
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton can in no way lose to Trump or Cruz or any other GOP nominee the republicans pull out of their asses.

Nor can Sanders lose to any of them.

It's silly fear tactics.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
6. I agree.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

There will be very little crossover without Bernie. Her platform is just too far right for most Dems. Her take on war is too much like round three *. She has currently announced that her campaign will be hitting back hard on dissent and has hired people to police this. It doesn't look good.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
5. Trump is the greatest thing to happen to the Democrats in a long time
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

I'm so hoping he gets the nomination.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
8. If it is Clinton vs Trump - Trump wins...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

You are wrong - no republican would ever vote for Clinton (except the oligarchy).
Independents won't vote for Clinton either.

Sanders, on the other hand, would win against any republican...

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
9. Except that we're dealing with criminals.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

You know how the Republicans can win the election, with "win" in air quotes?

By stealing the nomination from Trump, or finding someone else to run as a third party, and then use in-place vote theft mechanisms to split off 78 electoral votes from the Democratic candidate so that nobody wins an electoral majority.

Then the election goes to Congress, and to protect themselves, Congress will decide not to hold a vote, and the Republican Speaker of the House (probably Paul Ryan) will inherit the White House by default on January 20, 2017 without any vote at all.

Never forget that we are dealing with criminals. Criminals always have a chance, because they are not bound to ethical behavior or the law. And there is a hell of a lot of money riding on this, so we should expect them to try.

renate

(13,776 posts)
11. I know it's absurd of me, but I'm starting to worry about Trump
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

I'd still rather have him than Cruz. But I used to think that Trump just wouldn't be able to stop himself from being so obnoxious and mean and unpresidential and that he would make a fool of himself in the general election.

Now it sounds like maybe he actually can control himself. I can't find the article I'm thinking of now, but the writer said that his speech after the New York primary sounded much more sedate and presidential. (I didn't watch it because I assumed it would be another infomercial about steaks and bottled water.)

I'm sure I'm being ridiculous to worry, but who would ever have dreamed he could have gotten this far? I suppose his support from racists and bigots and idiots in the primaries is very different from what he could expect in the general election, but still. He's a long-time professional at being on TV and presenting the image people want to see....

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