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malaise

(268,966 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:52 PM Apr 2016

Chris Hayes is tearing Dennis Hastert a new one

for his abuse of five teenage boys, his brazen on steroids idea to enter public life and his ReTHUG hypocrisy during the Clinton impeachment (as in consensual sex versus abusing teenage boys).

Damn they are venal scoundrels these ReTHUGs.

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. And the "Hastert Rule" is still the way that the House conducts
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:08 PM
Apr 2016

business.

The Hastert Rule stipulates that a GOP Speaker will never bring up legislation for a floor vote unless the Speaker is certain that it can be passed with GOP votes only. Hastert was a leader and early founder of GOP obstructionism.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
13. I don't think that was quite it...
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:22 AM
Apr 2016

I believe it was that no legislation would be brought to the floor unless a majority of the Repub caucus supported it. Pretty much silenced anything from the minority Dems.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
4. I can't really remember when it was I first heard the rumors about Hastert. It was a hell
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:25 PM
Apr 2016

of a long time ago though. They knew. I mean his buddies in the republican party. Just like they knew about Larry Craig. We knew here in Idaho. The allegations were out there and the dude literally oozed creepiness.

Like with everything involving Jeff Gannon as well, it's tolerated among the powerful, especially if the person in question is dominant in those situations. No one has yet told us who was on the receiving end of Gannon's work at the White House.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
6. You know, or you look the other way and pretend not to know. I recently had a long time
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

friend arrested for video voyeurism and sexual contact with minors. And it happens to be with boys, high school aged. I'm in my 50's. Though I'd never known him to have a steady girlfriend in our younger days, it had never occurred to me to speculate if he was gay or not, though that's not really an issue here. Us guys on the softball team probably wouldn't have cared about that much anyway. We didn't when another buddy came out.

He did have a tendency to like to hang out with kids though, even as a young adult. I kind of chalked that up to a couple of them just being neighborhood kids he grew up with and was still friends with. I remember thinking it was stupid of him to party with them though. Even in the early 80's, buying alcohol for them was probably trouble.

Then he was gone for like 25 years and moved back. He came by and told me he had been in some trouble and was getting his life back together. Cool as far as I was concerned and he even mentioned being religious and all that. Good for him if that was what it took as far as I was concerned. He even came in and began donating blood where I work.

Then one day going to work I saw him. He was walking along with what looked like could be a high school aged kid. I got a bad vibe there. Ironically, one of my nicknames for him years before had been, "Uncle Al The Kiddies Pal". That was just a dig for hanging out with the kids years before. I had no idea it was prophetic.

Then not long after, I come out of a little grocery store and there he was getting out of a kids car. We spoke but I really got the feeling he didn't like me seeing that. Then I was suspicious that he was up to his old tricks. But still thinking he was just the cool old guy being a hero to his little buddies because he could buy for them. I still would never have thought what he was going to be busted for.

He'd been back in our old neighborhood, living at home and taking care of his ill mother. Hanging out at the local pool, getting involved with his church youth group and making friends with a number of the area kids. A concerned parent blew the whistle on him. The cops investigated and busted him. They even got a video of him having sex with what appeared to be an underage male that may have been passed out.

So there you have a case where I know that every possible clue was right in my face. I should have called the cops myself when I saw him at the store. Maybe if I had circled around and went back in and asked the woman working if he'd bought alcohol. I freakin' know he did! But instead, it takes his mug shot on tv for me to know I knew!

I feel bad in a way I guess. It's still hard to abandon an old friend. He was still an honest and nice guy to all of us all the years we knew him. It could have been a lot of things but not this. He could have been Walter White with the meth lab and I still would have visited him and asked, WTF Al?

The word is that once nailed, he cooperated and is yet to go to trial. I can totally see that. He was always honest and straight forward when he knew he fucked up.

malaise

(268,966 posts)
7. So true
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:12 PM
Apr 2016

Often we see signs but but we don't associate those we're close to with what those signs represent - it's like we see and don't see - it's so sad when it's an old friend.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
12. And how many times are kids abused by their own family members
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:00 AM
Apr 2016

While other family members see but don't see?



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. Yeah, and Hastert was going after Soros then because Soros supported-and supports- pot legalization.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:14 AM
Apr 2016

Pot Legalization = Bad /Child Abuse = Okay, I guess.

more wonderful authoritarian logic, in action.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
10. The judge isn't happy
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:42 PM
Apr 2016
Federal prosecutors say former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert lied to them last year, telling them that a former student wrestler was trying to extort him by making false allegations of sexual abuse decades ago.

Prosecutors say the abuse allegations are true. But they have agreed not to use Hastert's alleged lie to boost his sentence later this month.

On Wednesday, however, the federal judge overseeing the case made it clear that Hastert's alleged ploy to blame the man he'd abused will be a crucial part of his decision on whether the former speaker should be given prison and for how long.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/dennis-hastert-PEPLT002771-topic.html

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
17. I've Mentioned This Before Here
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:23 AM
Apr 2016

But, i had the unfortunate distinction of sitting with Hastert and his wife at a couple of banquets. A couple that i played golf with, now and then, were both teachers at the same school and knew him quite well.

Hastert is a punk and a thug, physically and intellectually. I also thought he was one of the dumbest teachers i'd ever met.

Just, yuck!

malaise

(268,966 posts)
18. Yep I read that on the same thread
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:31 AM
Apr 2016

and said the Prof knew them. Thanks for this. DUers never cease to amaze me - some of you are way ahead of all media.

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