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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOk, this is pretty funny.......Indiana women calling the Govenor regarding their periods......
Who do you talk to about your periodyour best friend? Your doctor? Your conservative governor?
Last week, Indiana Governor Mike Pence signed into law extreme anti-abortion legislation that bans abortions on the basis of the race, sex, or potential disability of a fetus. Now, a growing number of the states women have decided: If Pence cares so much about what goes on in their vaginas and uteruses, well, they should probably keep him in the loop. By telling him all about their periods.
For the past week, Hoosier women have been dialing up the governors office to fill him in on the details of their menstrual cycles. I need to get a message to the governor that I am on day three of my period, one caller told Pences office. My flow seems abnormally heavy, but my cramps are much better.
http://fusion.net/story/286941/periods-for-pence-indiana-women-calling-governor/?utm_source=fusiondaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=04012016
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)I like funny people 😀
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)oh wait?
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)Kber
(5,043 posts)At least you didn't go *there*. You know, like some mid-west Governors insist on doing.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)requiring investigation by law enforcement. I suggested that women send him all their used sanitary products so he could personally examine them for signs of miscarriage, since 90% of miscarriages were so early the woman had no idea she'd been pregnant.
He withdrew the bill two days later. I hope somebody clued him in to my suggestion.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It's almost eerie...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yes but the lives of unborn babies are so important to them....
.....they know nothing about it. Nothing at all. What the hell do they even think goes on "in there"? I'm surprised they don't mention storks and cabbage patches in these bills.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)The asshole who proposed this is state senator Mark Obenshain, Republican.
He proposed legislation that would require anyone having knowledge of a woman having a miscarriage to report the miscarriage to local law enforcement along with details such as her name, address, date/time of miscarriage, location of the "product of the miscarriage," etc., etc.
He withdrew the bill after he was attacked in every state newspaper and his office was swamped with phone calls, letters, faxes, and angry visitors.
I'm an EMT with a rural volunteer rescue squad. Several of us signed and faxed a letter to him telling him, if his proposal became law, we would refuse to obey -- his proposal included language requiring "medical personnel" to report miscarriages to local law enforcement.
He ran for Virginia Attorney General in 2013. The results were so close the election went to a recount; he lost to our current AG, Mark Herring, by fewer than 1,000 votes statewide.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)especially since most men like this are mortified at the "horror" of bleeding women.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Hilarious!!!
LOVE IT!
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Me: "Good Morning. I just wanted to inform the Governor that things seem to be drying up today. No babies seem to be up in there. Okay?"
Them: (Sounding strangely horrified and chipper at the same time) "Ma'am, can we have your name?"
Me: "Sure. It's Sue."
Them: "And your last name?"
Me: "Magina. That's M-A-G-I-N-A. It rhymes with--"
Them: "I've got it."
*Click*
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)anywhere else. Women are great and we DO have a sense of humor. I think I'll get his # and call even though I don't live in Indiana. Maybe I'm thinking of moving there eh? Oh wait - I don't have those "monthlies" anymore. Oh well, I'll call him to let him know I can't be a suspect.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Just, you know, to ease his anxiety about it.
valerief
(53,235 posts)abortion-restrictive states. So pretty much a national reality show.
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)a new thread about abortion but have held off posting it because I am so pissed off. Afraid it would come across as sheer anger so maybe it should go on the women's issues forum. I am sick and tired of listening to men talk about women's issues. unless they have ever had a period or the cramps they should STFU. Even the well meaning guys--it's like what do you say to someone who got a bad diagnosis or has just lost a beloved family member--nothing is better than anything else.
valerief
(53,235 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)
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salin
(48,955 posts)Rather than classic April Fool's Day joke, think it is epic political trolling of a reactionary governor.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
If they'd STARTED calling on April Fools' Day, it WOULD have been disregarded as a joke!
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pansypoo53219
(20,981 posts)rurallib
(62,423 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Abbie Hoffman and the YIPpies and others in the 1960s knew this.
I am also reminded of a story Molly Ivins told:
1993 http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1993/05/funs-fight
[font size="+1"]The Fun's in the Fight[/font]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/turk-pipkin/steve-fromholz-a-guest-in_b_4663250.html
Steve and I did quite a few shows together over the years, but our command performance was in 1993 when we joined hands with a group of adventurous Austin types and mooned the Klan in front of the Texas Capitol. Thats right, the KKK was coming to town, and rather than protest and scream expletives at their racism and hatred, we decided itd be better to turn the other cheek.
It came to me as a flash... of light, said Fromholz, who dreamed up the mass mooning. If you dont feed their hate, theyll starve to death.
Let me summarize by saying that Fromholzs idea was beyond sublime. Our group began by singing, If youre happy and you know it, Moon the Klan. Unable to reach the front row of the counter-protest, we brought up the rear by dropping our drawers. Many of us were wearing boxers. Mine had smiley faces on them. One guys drawers said, Support Live Music in Austin. As Molly Ivins described the scene, It was a gas.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)History!
PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Freddie
(9,267 posts)Then women should send the Governor boxes full of used Kotex or Tampax with a note requesting state aid because they can't afford the funeral services.
Hate to bring the Bernie/Hillary fight into this, but anyone who will sit back and let the Republicans take over because "their" candidate isn't the nominee...go fuck yourself.
Ino
(3,366 posts)and mentioned hurting my back while on the cycle at the gym. The lawyer said, "Do you mean the stationary bicycle, or your menstrual cycle?" I paused a long time, and said evenly "the stationary bicycle." Then I glanced at the female court reporter who looked up at me and rolled her eyes.
Why the hell would I say I was on my menstrual cycle when I hurt my back at the gym?! It's creepy that he would even think of that.
(No, I was not suing the gym. The lawyer was asking me every question under the sun about crap totally unrelated to another issue.)
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)And, yes, I put some of the blame on Democrats, because apparently too many Democrats were either too lazy, self-absorbed or unmotivated by their candidate to bother to vote.
I have zero sympathy for states that vote Republican all the time. You buy the lemon that explodes when the sign says "danger, car is a lemon and will explode if you drive over 20 MPH," don't go crying when you drive over 20 MPH and the car explodes.
Cavet Empetor in politics, people. Let the buyer beware.
NExt election, GOTV. . .I didn't vote for that asshole Doug Douchey. . .Arizona did. I am not in Arizona, I am in Malaysia, so I am immune to his policies, but Arizonans are screaming. Shit, you knew what the Republicans stood for, and you voted this Tea Bagging cocksucker in.
Same with NJ, ME, OH, IL, KY, WI, TX, MS, NC, FL, SC and everyone else. . .especially ME because they are blue state. . .and WI because not only did they fail to recall that asshole, but they FUCKING RE-ELECTED HIM!!!!
phylny
(8,380 posts)So gerrymandered that it's almost impossible for my district to go blue.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)phylny
(8,380 posts)Red area in a blue state.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)from the tone of your post that you're upset, and make no mistake, the law is upsetting. I don't know why you're in Malaysia, but your words don't read like those of someone on a humanitarian mission. However, extrapolating your logic to your current locale would suggest that you accept that victims of human rights violations such as human trafficking are responsible for their own suffering because they didn't get enough people to vote the right way. That's probably not the case but sometimes when one paints with such a broad brush one can't help but get some of that paint on one's self.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)I wanted to lived in SE Asia for a while. Why I am here is none of your concern, and no, I am not on a humanitarian mission here.
As for my locale, it isn't my country and I don't get involved. Let the Malays clean up their own mess of human trafficking.
My concern is people in the states voting for turds and then complaining when they get turd policies.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)they should complain from SE Asia I guess.
I live in the midwest, it's late for me and I'm going to bed. Happy Saturday, don't waste it trying to think of something clever to put me in my place before I awaken.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)We had a spoiler in each of the last 2 elections. I personally voted for the non-teabagger candidate most likely to win. Unfortunately, the 1st time around the official Dem candidate trailed with only 20% in the polls right up to the end, but wouldn't quit. Had she dropped out, the former Dem turned Indie would have won.
Instead it was LePage 38%
Indie Whatzisname 37%
Official Dem 20%
4 or 5 other indies 5%
Same thing happened the last election, except this time it was LePage 38%, Michaud 37%, and Indie Whatzisname 20or so %
I also have read that there was a lot of outside money (ie Koch) involved. Listening to the radio there were at least 3 LePage ads for every 1 Michaud.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)that s stayed home.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)If the voters are not motivated to turn out and vote, it is ALWAYS a Failure of Leadership.
Blaming the voters is a recipe for continued failures.
If the "leaders" have the moral courage to truthfully examine their own failures, THEN something can be done, but to just blame the voters, shrug your shoulders, walk away, and do the same thing next election is STUPID.
It is EZ being Blue in a Blue State. All you have to do is follow the crowd.
In 2006, my wife and I moved from Big Blue Minneapolis to dark Red Rural Arkansas,
and have carried the fight to the front lines.
Due to the low population density, our vote weighs much more than it ever did in Minneapolis.
In 2008, 1 out of 3 people up in these old mountains voted for "the Black Guy"".
It wouldn't take much to flip our district.
Of course, you can just relax on your high horse and insult all the good, courageous, hard fighting Democrats who are working to change things.
I don't have much respect for those hollering insults from the peanut gallery.
Come join us in the front lines.
The South is BEAUTIFUL, and belongs to us all.
--bvar22 & Starkraven
changing the South Blue, one person at a time.
Roy Rolling
(6,918 posts)Voter turnout numbers are a closely-calculated political strategy to gain advantage for your candidate or against your opponent. A candidate who neglects it, is doomed to be a loser for that inattention. People will turn out to vote in droves for a candidate who they feel is "one of them". They are always lukewarm to voting for someone who they have been convinced is their superior, and are needed just as foot soldiers to facilitate his/her graqndiose plans.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)People were howling under the Crypt Keeper Jan Brewer's policies.
IF you vote Republican, you get Republicans. I have no sympathy whatsoever. Attacking me won't change that. If the Democratic leadership sucks so bad in your state that it cannot motivate voters, they are part of the problem by giveing no viable alternative.
But if you vote Republican, you get Republican. And those in Blue States have no excuse.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...inspired. Most likely he is not actually hearing any of the messages, but he sure as heck must be hearing about it. He probably doesn't even like knowing that his wife menstruates. Eeeww - icky!
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)The governor is not the one listening to those message, it is the poor office assistants. I bet you never was an administrative assistant.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)...would take that on and provide a summary.
OTOH, regarding hot topics:
I happened to be in DC while Bill Clinton was having to go thru that bogus impeachment, so I went to my Senator's office to get a pass for the visitors' gallery. While waiting, I watched the assistants taking many many calls, which they entered on yellow legal pads. None of them were transcribed verbatim; instead they were tallied into columns with various headings.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)....to the person taking your messages. She's not the person who did whatever it is you are aggravated about.
Back in the day at DU we had a lot of posts demanding we should "Call Congress right effing now!" I did my fair share, and invariably the operator was some nice patient woman with a black Southern accent, who would transfer me to my Senator's or Representative's office, where the person on duty sounded young and Californian. All of those people were just doing their job, and none of them was Bush or Cheney.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Go women of Indiana!!!
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Call after, call after, call.... Week after, Week....
That is where there is real impact.
P.S. Separate government and religion. Thank you very much!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)I told him my you know what down you know where was in hiatus and that when it ever came back I would send him snaps.
Told him to share it with the wife. It might do him some good.
klook
(12,157 posts)all about Hoosier women's reproductive health!
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)spooky3
(34,460 posts)Great idea, Hoosiers!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)should follow suit! It's the only way to fight these f'ers. If it becomes a problem for them, they will drop it like a hot potato.
This was a brilliant idea!
whirlygigspin
(3,803 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)and became a member of the group. I was born in Indiana (sadly) and hope it makes him change! Go Hoosiers go!
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... given the abysmal record of every Republican governor in the country, what kind of delusional, shit-brained idiot would even consider voting for a Republican. Ah, but I answered my own question: DELUSIONAL SHIT-BRAINED IDIOTS!
Scum like Pence are congenitally incapable of governing because they don't want to be of service to their citizens; they only want to CONTROL them. That is what defines every conservative that Satan ever defecated. And demonizing those segments of the population that frighten poor, defenseless, misogynistic little cowards namely, uneducated white men such as women, People of Color, the LGBT community, et cetera, then the lowest common denominators of the social equation don't even notice when draconian restrictions are applied to them.
I hate conservatism with every fiber of my being.
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)Makes all the sense in the world to annoy a peon for the actions of his boss.
-- Mal
Flyingbird5066
(75 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)... of when Wellesley College didn't have insurance coverage for births (having had a history of un-married women on their staff). Along about the time Hillary was there 6 of us faculty wives were pregnant, due to deliver in the summer. We talked a lot about a possible birth-in in the president's office.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Poor man. All those women he needs to keep an eye on!
Rex
(65,616 posts)You know...there is something to this! The GOP literally makes it life or death inside the uterus out of majestic care for that organ so women should call in whenever there is a change to the baby maker. Seems the GOP leaders are that serious ladies. Also, on a side note, I get IBS a lot as I get older...why does my fellow male ignore my internal organs? Why has he forsaken my colon?
I've suffered from kidney stones all my life...is that organ covered under the GOP Master Plan in Impressing God With Kickass Freedumb laws? Technically since God gave us all freewill, what is the GOP trying to prove here? That they can be the biggest assholes toward God? If God made all our organs for us, then why does the GOP covet one over all the others? Is the uterus like the Jesus among the organ hierarchy? What does that say for things like our appendix?
Lemme go get my Bible, no doubt it is in the chapter on Uterusii.
21st Century Poet
(254 posts)The law should not have been passed because it seeks to control what pregnant women do and don't do but, as a general idea, the concept of discouraging women from having abortions because of the gender or race of the foetus is the right thing to do.
India and China have a long history of parents deciding to abort females just because they want a son, so much so that there is a demographic imbalance. Daughters are seen as expensive to raise and of little social and economic value. This is wrong and perpetuates the myth that girls are worse than boys.
The idea of aborting a foetus just because it has the wrong skin colour is also wrong and plainly racist.
I will probably get flak for this but, to me, abortion based solely on gender or race is shocking, wrong, sexist and racist.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)....legal health care in the US.
If you don't believe in abortion, do not have one.
21st Century Poet
(254 posts)My point is simply this: If a woman says that she had an abortion because it was going to be a girl and girls are not worth having or if a woman says that she had an abortion because it was going to be black and blacks are worthless, then that to me is shocking. It shouldn't be illegal but the very idea of it is wrong and goes against all that the Democratic Party stands for.
MH1
(17,600 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Are you aware that sex-selection in this country is used to prevent the transmission of sex-linked disabling or fatal diseases?
We are not India or China.
Abortion is part of the continuum of women's health care, and your feelings of "wrongness" are just that: your feelings. Women are moral agents. Trust them to know the necessities of their own lives.
21st Century Poet
(254 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:21 PM - Edit history (1)
I have absolute trust in all women to know the necessities of their own lives but having a political position does not mean being totally incapable of nuance, argument and hypothesis. For example, I am in favour of the legalisation of all drugs because the war against drugs has failed. Does that make me incapable of agreeing with the statement 'Heroin should not be sold in school canteens.'? No.
Similarly, I can, and I do, say that abortion should be legally and easily available to all women. I also say that nobody should interfere with a woman's right to choose whether to have a baby or not. That said, my clear position will not stop from agreeing with the statement 'Abortion based solely on gender or race (no medical or other reasons) because of the assumption that some genders or races are less worthy is repugnant'.
You might disagree with that statement, of course, and that's fine, but that's up to you. As far as I'm concerned, it's bad in China and it's bad everywhere. The statement is not country specific. Should it be made illegal and is it anybody's business? No, but not everything that is legal and nobody's business is morally right.
Just because you hold a belief, it does not mean that you become incapable of thinking about it from different angles. It's no more of a specious argument than saying 'Heroin should not be sold in school canteens.' An idea so clear and straightforward cannot be specious. And, yes, it's just a feeling but so is every other political and moral belief that we hold. That applies to you too.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)How many abortions in the US are performed yearly solely due to gender or race of fetus?
Laws banning sex-selective abortion purport to combat gender discrimination. However, the text of the laws and the statements made in support of the bans during legislative hearings make it clear that they are intended to place restrictions on abortion services generally. Moreover, the laws purport to solve a problem that may not exist at all in the United States.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)"Oh, I am having a rather heavy period this month, and I have a train to catch..."
Pence the Dense won't get the dry humor of it.
Contrary1
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blackspade
(10,056 posts)Maybe they should start sending pictures?
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noamnety
(20,234 posts)I was searching for a recipe I saw recently and this thread came up.
Can we all PLEASE agree not to use the word cabbage in threads that are primarily about periods?