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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:50 PM

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

1. 61% to 38%

Double fuck.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

8. That's not likely to be final.

If they're calling it this relatively early, it's likely because they've matched the results so far to the exit polling, so most likely the result will be pretty close to the exit poll. Maybe Walker by 4-7.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

36. 58-40 now

crap.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

147. 56-43

gack

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #147)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:13 PM

159. 55-44 now

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Response to Matariki (Reply #159)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:59 AM

206. Looks like the end result is going to be 53-46.

So about 7 points, on the upper end of the 4-7 I'd guessed earlier.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #206)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:28 AM

248. Theres something wrong here

I mean the polls indicated a few points difference before election and I could see 1 or 2 % points but no...There was just too much grass roots effort going forward and with such a high voter turn out for this kind of outcome with such a high margin of vivtory...There is something wrong.. Money buys votes or money destroys votes and just maybe the Koch Bros were playing both ends of the field.
..When the corporate media talks about exit polling,I remember in 2000 and 2004(ohio) that Repukes were saying.."exit polling just doesn't mean much and not accurate"..And now the polls barely close and these right wing hacks report a victory from results of exit polling....Strange.....

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Response to INdemo (Reply #248)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:01 AM

249. Average of polls was 6 points according to Nate Silver 2 days ago

Pretty close to end result.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:37 PM

265. Rigged

No way in hell should Walker have won!! There was a massive Democrat turn out to get a re-election vote on the ballot. There was a massive turn out yesterday at the polls. This outcome was rigged. I believe in the weeks to come there will be a criminal investigates into this matter.

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Response to WV Democrat 59 (Reply #265)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:10 PM

280. Don't bet on it.

We've lost...everything.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:52 AM

204. Sounds like they're getting more brazen and couldn't care less if it looks like they cheated.

All they have to do is deny it and the right-wing media will go along with it (it's not just Fox anymore). It may be time to work on those underground tunnels.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:17 PM

256. Wisconsin has made its bed, and it will lie in it, corporate bedbugs and all.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

2. Really, Wisconsin?

Seriously?

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:02 AM

234. NYT reported 'large majority' told exit pollsters recalls are only acceptable for malfeasance

(Sheesh! When voters feel this way about recalls, Barrett obviously had no chance.)

Six out of 10 voters, or 60 percent, told exit pollsters they think recalls are only acceptable if there’s been a case of malfeasance or improper behavior, CBS News exit polls found.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77106.html

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #234)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:29 AM

239. that is the message the media was pounding up there.

as far as i can tell. those big bucks did their job, catapulting the propaganda.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:26 PM

254. Yes, really. (Sigh.) This is who "we" are.

"We" being the society as a whole. Of course not every individual. But the individuals who aren't, were greatly drowned out by those who are exactly that.

What Skinner said. Double.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

3. That was my EXACT word...

Wife kinda looked at me funny...I don't usually curse out loud like that.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

4. Yes

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

5. Those figures make no sense

61%??? WTF???

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:16 PM

62. Sounds like the fix is in. There is no way Milwaukee and Madison could have already been counted.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:32 PM

101. Not to mention the reputed 50/50 exit polls.

And the polling done before the race. Something doesn't add up and it stinks to high heaven.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM

157. Don't worry, the discrepancies will all be explained away to us.

As always.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:52 PM

6. It's over. The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:20 PM

257. Careful. Some people will actually believe it was the Germans and not know

it was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor. I know you are joking but some of the ignorant trolls and lurkers who haunt this site might take you at your word.

Hope I'm not offending you, bullwinkle428, but there are a lot of ignorant Republicans out there.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:52 PM

7. what you said.

it almost always sucks doesn't it.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

9. FUCK, indeed! nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

10. This is way too soon...

The polls haven't been closed an hour. There are still people waiting in line to vote in some parts of the urban centers!

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Response to Ranting_Wacko (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

21. All the more reason to call it. Color me skeptical. n/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

11. Something is fishy

NO ONE had a lead this big. This country is in big, big trouble.

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:57 PM

24. +1

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:17 PM

63. +2

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

77. +1

 

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:32 PM

102. Very interesting point...absolutely right. nt

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:40 PM

113. This +1 million

they've got the rigging thing down pat

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:00 PM

132. what you said!

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:02 PM

135. The conservanazis have had practice at fixing the vote in Waukesha County.

I'm sure they did it elsewhere. The conservanazi repugs are evil, conniving folks.

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Response to TxVietVet (Reply #135)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

143. Exit polls are rarely that far off. Doesn't it feel like a taste of Russia..

came here? What happened to all those big crowds in Milwaukee/Dane?

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Response to mvd (Reply #143)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

150. yes. exactly.

 

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Response to mvd (Reply #143)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:27 AM

223. Remember how far off they were in the Presidential 2004?

They were at such an unexplained disparity that I thought

they actually "gave up" exit polling.

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Response to mvd (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:30 PM

175. I know. This is the New America. We're doomed. nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

12. WHAT?! Already?! SO DEPRESSING.

 

I'm fucking sick.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

13. I feel sick

I mean, our democracy has been fucked forever, but man, our democracy is seriously under attack.

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Response to jsmirman (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:33 PM

103. Make that Fucking Sick

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Response to jsmirman (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:06 AM

246. It's no longer a democracy - it's an auction.

I have that bumper sticker somewhere & I think today is a good day to pull it out & stick it in the back window of my truck.

Another DUer asked this morning: Who did Barrett concede to? Walker or the Koch brothers?

Fuck the Roberts Supreme Court & Citizens United. I cried harder last night than I did in 2004. I"m still on the verge of tears today. I feel sick & can't eat a damned thing. I'm pissed & disgusted at the same time.

FUCK.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

14. Yes indeed FUCK

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

15. Since the Republicans always project...

I'd say they're up to their eyeballs in their own voter fraud. Just a thought. G'night.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:54 PM

16. This is fucking hard to take

 

No need to be spending any time in Wisconsin any time soon, that's for sure. On my list of "No Travels" for now.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:55 PM

17. where the hell is john king with all his district maps? nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:55 PM

18. Wisconsin dems, don't concede!

In Florida the red counties are the first to be counted. They're smaller and easier to count. The urban blue areas take longer.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:04 PM

139. They're smaller and easier to count.

But seriously, it shouldn't be this close to begin with.


America is finished. It died in 2000. You all know why...

Cheating and stupid people more concerned about "America's got Talent".


Thanks WI for reminding us that money talks.... and so does bull shit.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #139)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM

154. Still think that the same day registrations should be examined.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #139)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:41 AM

217. I contend it died in 1980.

The noose just gets tighter every time they regain power. I can hardly breathe.

Should we all request paper ballots in Nov., or vote early?
Or will we just be wasting our time.

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Response to southerncrone (Reply #217)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:45 AM

225. I'd say 1980 was when the first pellet of rat poison was slipped into its breakfast

It's been getting progressively worse eince then, and today was the last gasp.

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Response to southerncrone (Reply #217)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:33 PM

261. Correct. I said the same thing to someone this morning in another

thread and they called me "defeatist". That's not my intention at all, but I'm also not 21 and I'm not going to pretend I haven't watched what's happened since Reagan took office. He is the one who started cutting the capital gains taxes (which help the very wealthiest investors the most) and you can see the results in the past 30 years with the gap between rich and poor growing exponentially. Now the middle is being squarely attacked, and many don't realize it.

To fight back rather than be completely defeated I think we have to acknowledge what has happened in this country. We've allowed the very wealthiest to steal our 401Ks, break our unions, and off-shore our jobs. How much more are we going to take?

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Response to TBF (Reply #261)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:56 AM

278. Yes. Graham-Rudman was the beginning of the underhanded stealing of our future.

Unfortunately, those of us who are over 50 (or maybe 55) are the only ones who remember this.....and only those of us who were paying attention!

I remember in the '80's, Wal-mart had a big "Buy USA" campaign, which in reality was a cover while they undermined our towns by closing down the independent stores in small town America & conspiring w/China to produce cheap crap & ship our industry overseas. Nafta & Gatt just paved the road for a smoother ride for them to take over our retail sector.

So much has been orchestrated over the last 3 decades. We have got to stop "funding" these corporations/ 1% by withholding our $ whenever we can. Difficult, but not impossible. Money is the only language this crowd understands. Take away that power & your cut off the head of the serpent.

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Response to southerncrone (Reply #278)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:47 AM

279. I remember hearing "Graham-Rudman" but not what it meant -

I bet my mom talked about it. She was small town but very much a flower-child type from the 60s and very interested in politics. She explained the Walmart thing to me as it was happening. She and my dad (who worked in a small foundry and belonged to a union) weren't fooled.

I have become very anti-capitalism as a result of watching the events unfold during my lifetime. I agree with your assessment of starving large corporations and would add that we need to significantly revise our tax code and political funding.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:55 PM

19. .

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

20. Double Fuck!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

22. I am officially depressed.

So sad.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

23. It's a hard loss.

win some / lose some.

Thanks to Wisconsin Dems for all your hard work and for voting today.





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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:58 PM

25. It's not even close. Fuck fuck fuck fuck!

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Response to FranklinB (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

33. Anyone hear anything?

and what is that smell?

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Response to DearAbby (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

45. Stench of an ass sucking freeper

And his Dad's dirty underwear stuck on his face.

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Response to FranklinB (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

44. You won't have money to buy him a beer.

However, he will be taking slave labor.


Good luck.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:59 PM

27. John Doe.

It's still hanging over his head.

Until we stop spending money on the war machine, and start putting energy into educating the people of this country, this is what we're going to see, more and more, I predict.

Stupid people vote for stupid politicians.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:40 PM

114. Stupid people vote for stupid politicians

Ain't it the truth!

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:20 PM

166. People who vote against their own interests and think they are going to be rich one day

The wannabe 1%ers.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:59 PM

28. Exactly. Except --sorry. I don't believe it. I remember 2011 WI fiasco as detailed on Brad blog.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8511

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"When the ballot bags were taken out and placed upon the counting table, we were literally stunned," one of the citizen observers, Mary Magnuson, a Kloppenburg volunteer, told The BRAD BLOG this morning. "5 out of the 6 ballot bags were almost literally wide open, and ballots could be clearly seen."

AND - It happened too fast. As if a point was being made to anyone else who dared think they could challenge Repbulicans and The Koch Brothers.


"Money Changes Everything..."


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Response to cyberpj (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:25 AM

213. I agree. They went too far when they called it while people were still in line to vote. n/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:01 PM

29. I think you should chill out for an hour or two

while the votes are being counted.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:01 PM

30. Citizens United.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

31. THE CITIZENS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

the best government corporate money can buy

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Response to spanone (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:09 AM

222. Wrong...

I'd say it's the WORST government corporate money can buy.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

32. THIS IS NOT OVER.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:58 AM

233. finally

a voice of reason

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:30 AM

240. Maybe this will wake up some of the centrists. nm

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:51 PM

263. When is the soonest they can hit Walker with another recall.

Keep hitting the Wisconsin Repug's with Recalls.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:03 PM

34. So does this mean the Koch brothers will be buying ALL of the states in Novenber?

I wish I could believe they could be stopped.

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Response to Walk away (Reply #34)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

48. No, not all, only the ones they need to win the White House, Congress, and Senate nt

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:03 PM

35. Double fuck! Hope he is indited soon. Now we're going to have to look at that face in

the news for months. He make me sick. :puke"

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

37. David Shuster said on Current he's waiting for the Associated Press to call it before

believing the networks.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

38. My sentiments exactly

I wonder how many of those counties are using Diebold voting machines....?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

39. The way things are going Orly Tatz will win in CA. This is crazy.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

40. I don't know why everyone is shocked.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #40)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM

66. We all were watching Al Sharpton and Ed Shultz and they had us pumped to win.

So then we crashed?

Maybe? Just a theory.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #40)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:22 PM

81. i don't know why you're here.

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #81)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

140. Because unlike everyone else I am in touch with reality.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #140)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

146. yeah, i bet.

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #146)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:04 AM

236. You bet what? They were right and you were wrong.

You might want to rethink your response next time.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM

41. Well, I guess 'Corporations are voters, my friend"

Damn the Rich

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

75. We need to do something about out of control corporate influence over govermnent.

Or we not going to recognize our own country.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM

42. I find it so hard to believe

I have no words to express how I feel about the results.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:31 PM

178. I know. I'm crushed. I feel SO BAD.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM

43. Yeah. No shit.



What were they saying? June 5th 2004, ronald reagan died.

Well, looks like on June 5th 2012, democracy died. Buried under a shitload of money in Wisconsin.

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Response to calimary (Reply #43)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:12 PM

52. You forgot one

 

June 5, Robert Kennedy was assassinated.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002770823


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Response to calimary (Reply #43)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

55. Wasn't Robert Kennedy assasinated on June 5th?

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Response to Mayflower1 (Reply #55)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM

67. No, it was June 6

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #67)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

84. That's weird. My newspaper this morning said June 5. nt

 

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #67)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:28 PM

90. Shot on the fifth, died on the sixth.

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #67)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

97. Yep. June 6. But maybe this is why there's some confusion on the date

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy

The assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, a United States Senator and brother of assassinated President John F. Kennedy, took place shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968, in Los Angeles, California.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:09 PM

46. It's a braced game

The fix was in. I told everyone that a while ago.

It may be worse in November.

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Response to TomClash (Reply #46)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:27 PM

89. I agree, but no one will listen

people give me the evil eye look when I talk about it
like not mentioning it will make it go away
I hope they prove me wrong

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Response to TomClash (Reply #46)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

100. Me too

And I was sure of it when I saw the polls a week before the election...they made it close to legitimize it all.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:09 PM

47. ut oh

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

49. I still say this is too close to call

Once Madison and Milwaukee's votes are in I will concede if it is still showing Walker with a big lead, but I am not giving up until the strong Barrett areas have been counted.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:11 PM

50. NOOO NOOO NOO NOOOOOOOOOOOO



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:11 PM

51. The outside money has demonized all unions.

We needed more national help. They left us to fight all of corporate America alone. We brought a knife to a gun fight. The NRA spent bundles. Barrett never had a chance. Yes, fuck!!!!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:12 PM

53. Who could have forseen this?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

54. I don't understand this one bit. Why Wisconsin?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

56. Goddamnit...Didn't I just see exit polls @ 50/50?

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Response to Wellman (Reply #57)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:17 PM

64. Wow, You're a moron.

 


Your solution to people having financially secure jobs in this economy is to screw them.

This will harm the economy, but you're not educated enough to understand how or why.

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Response to Wellman (Reply #57)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

69. Are you not supposed to treat others as you would treat yourself.

Btw, Walker is going to jail. Just watch.

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Response to Wellman (Reply #57)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

74. LOL

You're so stupid you don't even realize you signed your death warrant. I'll gladly tell you I told you so when you're eating shit to survive and Walker is a billionaire. You are seriously TSTL.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

58. It's not over yet. Less than 40% of precincts have been counted.

But this is an ominous sign of how much a financial disadvantage can hurt a candidate in a heated election. This election has put more emphasis on how vital it is to keep Republicans from regaining the WH this fall so the Democrats can appoint more liberal SC justices. That way, we can have Citizens United overturned once and for all.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

59. Citizens United. Period.

Double Fuck.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:14 PM

60. Couldn't have said it better!!!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:15 PM

61. ditto !!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM

65. Election fraud. Plain and simple. And it was legalized by SCOTUS.


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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

68. America voted for a strong liberal in 2008.

 

What they got was a moderate. People vote for a LEADER. It's Machiavelli 101. (And for whatever reason he refuses to see this. )

This was predictable.

Edit: This is what really pissed me off the last few years. I finally had to let it go. And it KILLS ME because I had such high hopes for this man.

Oh well... On we go to November...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

70. Ugh...how does this happen?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

71. No going back, never despair, and don't forget





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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #71)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:22 PM

80. The fun will go on.

Here's to John Doe's Demise

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #71)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:39 PM

112. And no looking back

cause if you look back at how easy it was for them to steal other elections you might despair...better to pin your hopes on the new solution....the law....which will perter out slowly and will be less stresfull.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

72. This is unbelievable and more

than a little fishy. How could he be winning by a margin that wide after the massive protests for months, the recall, the huge voter turn out today AND this early?? The only good I see coming out of this is that hopefully NO ONE will just assume that Obama has the 2012 election won hands down and more funds will be raised and contributed and everyone will know for sure that they MUST vote.

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Response to findrskeep (Reply #72)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:16 PM

161. How? Here's how:

 

Mr. Walker, who raised millions of dollars from conservative donors outside the state, had a strong financial advantage, in part because a quirk in Wisconsin law allowed him months of unlimited fund-raising, from the time the recall challenge was mounted to when the election was officially called. As of late last month, about $45.6 million had been spent on behalf of Mr. Walker, compared with about $17.9 million for Mr. Barrett, according to data from the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign, a nonpartisan group that tracks spending.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/politics/walker-survives-wisconsin-recall-effort.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

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Response to bupkus (Reply #161)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:52 AM

218. The money is just a cover for

the real crime. Just MHO.
We need to look at percentages. The new R math.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

73. The Supreme Court '5' are very happy tonight

Their objective of creating a one-party country has been achieved!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

76. Simple, short, concise.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

78. Jah, that sums it up.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

79. yup

I don't think anything we can do will change what is going to happen to this country come November.
It's bought and paid for...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:23 PM

82. What you said.

I've worked hard for Barrett. I'm devistated, along with so many others tonight.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:23 PM

83. In California in 2003 money made all the difference too

 

Gray Davis was ousted by Republican money in a recall led by Darrell Issa and Ted Costa with plenty of money from millionaires interested in wresting state government control from Democrats. Tonight it's different. Republicans in control destroying the middle class, education, workers' rights, lives, families, but the money is still on the Republican side.

I hope for once money loses but it isn't looking good right now.

I can't believe this asshole Walker is going to win by the numbers they're talking about right now. What the fuck is wrong with this country? Do voters actually think Walker and the Koch brothers have their best interests at heart? Don't they remember what the Bush years brought us? Why do voters vote against their own interests time and time again? Is it just hatred of "liberals"? Are Americans that brainwashed that they'd vote for people who wreck the entire world because they're good at using wedge issues and lies?

This is all just too depressing to contemplate.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

85. I guess Wisconsin wants to be the right wing expement. What a fucking shame /nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

86. sadly K&R nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:25 PM

87. Fucking kicked, and fukity fuck fuck fuck

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:27 PM

88. If it weren't NBC calling it

FUCK!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:28 PM

91. If it's on the up and up

Never mind. It can't be! Something is terribly wrong here.

I agree. FUCK.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:29 PM

92. Unbelievable...n/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:29 PM

93. walker owns

the vote tabulators

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:29 PM

94. I feel sick to my stomach....we are so

fucked. (That's my first time to ever use the word online.)
I don't use it lightly.And you know what? To me, 'hope' is
becoming another four letter word.

I don't believe the numbers at all and I am also surprised
by the jovial attitude of MSNBC this evening. I know Rachel
and Lawrence and Ed want to project themselves as good
losers but where's the angst we've been hearing from them
about this particular race for ? months? That's what bothers me.

We'll never be able to fight the corporations paying for the
election 2012. This is no longer a democratic republic.

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Response to dschis1000 (Reply #95)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:34 PM

105. Take your bible and shove it where the lord won't go.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #105)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:39 PM

111. +1 nt

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #105)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:54 PM

127. Was that really necessary? n/t

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Response to SylviaD (Reply #127)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:00 PM

131. It sure as hell was. Did you not read that fundie troll's post??

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Response to John_in_Ohio (Reply #129)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:01 PM

134. FUCK YOU. GO AWAY.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #134)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:34 AM

241. Did you notice that piece of crap got one jury vote to leave it? nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #241)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:27 PM

259. Yes, I did. Apparently trolls can get jury privileges.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:30 PM

96. Fucking BULLSHIT!!

The numbers just don't add up!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

98. Fuck fuck...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

99. Joey Stalin and his acolyte Ahmed Ahmadinejad are in charge of counting, perhaps? nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:33 PM

104. RIP Democracy

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:36 PM

106. No.

I refuse to believe this.

Either:
A.) There's been some massive fraud on a scale we can't imagine yet...

Or (and this I fear more)

B.) Whoever has the most MONEY can buy election results

Because I refuse to believe that Wisconsin voters, when given ALL the information possible, could do this.

No.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #106)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

141. I think the way the demonstrations were portrayed, by the media,

turned a lot of people off to the recall effort. If the unions had just laid low and worked the recall as a regular election, they might have succeeded.

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Response to backpages (Reply #141)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:09 PM

151. The media is at it again

we must do something about the media

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Response to backpages (Reply #141)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:38 PM

181. Reports of union activists in Michigan

 

bringing in busloads of voters spurred the GOP voters to fight back.

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Response to dgl (Reply #181)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:42 PM

184. That makes no sense, mr. 1-post

At the LAST MINUTE, they organized a GOP GOTV effort because they saw some buses?

Please.

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Response to dgl (Reply #181)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:47 PM

186. Fight back against something that never happened?

Can you point me to a single piece of solid evidence that even one out of state person voted tonight? And no a report from Rush Limbaugh is not evidence of anything.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #186)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:08 AM

247. I never said anything about out-of-state voters

And it was the poster I responded to that was trying to make a point that the sight of buses made pro-Walker people angry enough to vote.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #247)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:12 PM

267. I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the person who claimed they were busing people in

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Response to backpages (Reply #141)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:40 PM

182. The unions' fault?

Um, wasn't Walker's attack on the unions what started all this? In a state that pioneered union rights?

Why should the unions "lay low" after being devastated?

I thought Americans admired the underdog FIGHTING BACK.

No. Something else is going on here.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:36 PM

107. how can this be?

it is hard to believe.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:37 PM

108. Paper ballots should be used in ALL elections !!! n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #108)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:53 AM

232. They did use paper ballots

But they're run through a tabulator. It's a simple matter then of flipping the results of the two candidates. This has been done before. I'm not saying it's what happened yesterday since it's also possible that the majority of voters don't know the issues and were bought by the continuous ads running all year. Citizens United or election fraud? That is the question.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:38 PM

109. Pure poetry

You have a knack for efficiency of language Skinner.

Sucks that it can't be put to better use this evening.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:39 PM

110. Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Walker yet, citing ongoing voting



Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Walker yet, citing ongoing voting

Tom Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Scott Walker yet, citing ongoing voting - @AP http://apne.ws/KDzBCW

http://twitter.com/breakingpol/status/210197782726848515



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:40 PM

115. And the DLC idiots in control of the DNC just sat by twiddling thier thumbs.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:43 PM

116. The results were less surprising...

...after watching a few of the "polling place interviews" on cable news today.

There were a few "Wisconsinites" who expressed pretty sharp anti-union sentiments, who were saying that Walker did "what he had to, for the state."

It just drives home the "red state / blue state" frames of mind. You would have thought that the "divide and conquer" video would have been the smoking gun, the thing that tipped the scales in favor of Walker's ass being thrown out of office.

I live in California, grew up in Massachusetts, and other than that, have spent no time in between other than moving here in a cross-country drive as a teen. I can't even pretend to understand Wisconsin, and the sad part is that there are some voters in Wisconsin tonight who can't either.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #116)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM

156. Midwestern moderate Dems are a sometimes contradictory breed...

My in-laws in Iowa hate illegals for taking their jobs and they think gays are an abomination before God - and they are staunch Democrats who voted for Obama and will again in November. I've run into others who hate the unions for their outrageous salaries and Cadillac insurance plans and also vote straight Democratic. And they're all members of the NRA who hate gun control laws.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #116)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:48 PM

187. All The KOCH $$$$ Didn't Just Go Into Ads/Campaigning

I believe R voters were paid as well.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:43 PM

117. Fuck it. Kick.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 PM

118. Fucking Bullshit

and I don't believe it!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 PM

119. That's what money gets you

3 times more lying drowns out the truth

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:46 PM

120. The only thing that will make me feel better

Is an indictment. But in a perfect world, Bush, Cheney, rummy and Rove would be imprisoned for life in Leavenworth, so I'm not holding my breath.

So sorry, Wisconsin! As one who survived a recall where the other side used dirty tricks and out of state corporate money only to foist an unfit moron on us, I totally sympathize

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:46 PM

121. So heartbreaking.

I am so sorry to all of the members of DU and Wisconsin residents who put in so much time and effort to get that fucker recalled. Also, to everyone who has and will suffer from his horrific agenda.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

122. BULLSHIT!!!!

I'm calling bullshit on the results. For there to be a clean Republican sweep with the type of turn out Wisconsin has had. There's no way. All that money and robo-calling and all the other dirty tricks, I think we know who the FRAUDSTERS are.

Wonder just how big the fucking red shift is gonna be?

Good for Barrett for not conceding!!!!!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

123. This site giving updates every minute. It ain't over yet.

 

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

124. Citizens United

FUCK.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:51 PM

125. Definitely not the end I wrote.


I say it's not the end. Does Wisconsin let us bring him up for another recall? Spend more of the Kochs' money? Bring it into the Wisconsin economy?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:54 PM

126. Nah, that ain't FUCK...

That's BULLSHIT.
I wonder if they're using those "smart" voting machines from Diebold. They're so smart, if you vote for the wrong candidate, they just switch it over for ya!
Bullshit bullshit BULLSHIT!
GodDAMN!!!!!!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:55 PM

128. What has happened?

I can't really process this right now. I'm closing my computer and going to bed early. Something is wrong with the world, this is like a bad movie.

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Response to SylviaD (Reply #128)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:48 PM

188. I know. I keep wondering - WHY, Wisconsin? You LIKE this? You approve of walker?

Seriously? You support what he's done? You're okay with this ruthless agenda of his? Really?????

I can't believe this shit is okay with so many of you.

I actually turned the TV off. Couldn't watch or listen, or even have it on in the background while I'm doing something else. Hopefully we can put on a marathon of "Star Trek" DVDs tonight...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:59 PM

130. Election was rigged.

This is bullshit. 50/50 going into it, yet Walker wins by landslide with unprecedented voter turn-out? Voter turn-out ALWAYS helps Dems. It's bullshit.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:01 PM

133. It's a sad day that's for sure. But this should make us all the more determined to

work our butts off to make sure that something like this doesn't happen in November as well. I'm sick and tired of losing elections like this. 2010 was bad enough and now this. Excuse me while I go and throw up.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:03 PM

136. I give up. They've broken me.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #136)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

148. I'm sooo sorry---You've worked so hard!! This must be rigged!!

I don't know what to say to console You!! Walker will be in prison some day Nikki!!!

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #136)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:09 PM

152. Thank you for all you do. I respect and applaud all your efforts.

We don''t always agree but my respect is huge.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #136)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:13 PM

160. Here's a hug...





I'm drinking wine tonight. This is very disappointing. I'm still very proud of Wisconsinites!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:03 PM

137. WTF??? I'm checking out of reality....

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:03 PM

138. Gap is closing

56% to 43.4%. Probably not enough however.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #138)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

144. Uh, yeah - it's getting real close...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

142. it was called too quickly I smell a rat

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

145. Options

 

It doesn't matter if Barrett wins, the Dems, liberals & progressives have absolute power.
Make a list of Rep businesses & Rep donors. Do not spend any money in any of these establishments. Spend your money in DEM,LIB & PROG businesses. Get into their wallets & purses & the REPs will start to pay attention.Show the KOCHS the power of money.This needs to be done whether BARRETT wins or loses.

As for family members who vote REP, turn George Bush on their asses.

"Your either with us or against us."

I,ve been doing this for quit a while

If one is not willing to do something this simple, then they might think about sitting down & shutting up.

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Response to 12ZTR (Reply #145)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:11 AM

228. +1000000, and welcome aboard, wish it was a happier place for you

Well, welcome anyway.
Dave

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

149. Exactly what I said when I heard

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:10 PM

153. Fuck indeed, I'm going to vote Republican from now on...

Let's all just throw everything into one end of the pool and crash the system sooner rather than later. Maybe then all the dumbsh**s getting their social programs ended, their infrastructure ignored, their kids uneducated, maybe then... they'll finally realize that the 1% didn't care about them, they just wanted to suck em in with flag waving and deficit reduction bullshit. I'm angry

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Response to SparkyOR (Reply #153)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:21 PM

167. Nope

 

You are not angry... Just stupid.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:12 PM

158. this is indeed sad and depressing. Sometimes evil prevails especially when evil has a lot more money

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:16 PM

162. Tonight in WI, 1 + 1 = 11

No way those numbers are right. No way.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:18 PM

163. Koch Bros and Rove bought the election

This is not what democracy looks like

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Response to Mkap (Reply #163)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:25 PM

171. Youbetcha they did. And this was just a beta

for what they plan to do nationally from now on. 2000 was the alpha version. No one stopped them then, so they went to the next level. That's what we've seen since and tonight in Wisconsin.

This, and Michigan with their "financial managers". It's all beta testing. If they get away with it and thus far they have, it's coming to the whole country. Count on it.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:19 PM

164. ditto

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:21 PM

168. I am embarrassed to be a Badger.

 

For the first time in my 48 years, 47 of which have been spent in this formerly great state, I am truly ashamed of this place I'm from.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:22 PM

169. 11.11pm: Milwaukee mayor and Democratic candidate Tom Barrett is now making his concession speech

11.11pm: Milwaukee mayor and Democratic candidate Tom Barrett is now making his concession speech: "I just got off the phone with Governor Walker and congratulated him on his victory," he says, to scattered boos from the crowd.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/06/wisconsin-recall-election-results-live

Fucking unbelievable and unacceptable.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:23 PM

170. Exactly.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:28 PM

173. I know. Fuck. nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:28 PM

174. Roger that.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:30 PM

176. I would say that 30 years of union bashing

has had the desired effect.

Most people just believe that unions are bad.

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #176)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:45 PM

185. Now they will find out what it's like without them -

very sad.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:31 PM

177. Doublefuck nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:35 PM

179. I almost threw up when I saw the headline.

God fucking damn it. Fuck the teabaggers.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:36 PM

180. That's all you have to say? Yea, I hear you. nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:41 PM

183. FUCK indeed.

I didn't think that there were that many fools in WI.

I'm just disgusted.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:49 PM

189. State Precinct Graphic interactive by PBS

 

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/other_votes.html

damn, and just called my mah today to hear 'but the national news had said he did such a wonderful job balancing the state's budget'...

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/may/31/tom-barrett/barrett-says-walker-used-credit-card-approach-bala/

really odd and disappointing to see on the fence or disconcerned individuals glaze over when you tell them anything contradictory to what they hear on their vaunted news networks. I try to explain over and over again that now days, like a malignancy one may have, seek out other advice and weigh out.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:49 PM

190. Dear Corporate "citizens"

There's other continents that would welcome your dynasty with glee - GO there.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:56 PM

192. You win some and lose some

but losing this big really hurts. Unions for state employees will be dismantled state by state now.

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Response to taught_me_patience (Reply #192)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:19 AM

195. How would unions be dismantled state by state?

All over this recall? Are you alluding to the fact that Big Business can buy seats for Repugs and thus get them to union bust?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:12 AM

193. we're scrooooowed.

 

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:15 AM

194. I Just Don't Get It

Wisconsin use to be such a liberal state .. what happened? It's all very depressing that we can't over-throw these Republican Governors .. Perhaps if he is indicted on corruption charges .. Dems have their work cut out for them. But it is disturbing that so many people in that State and others vote against their own best interests .. are they that stupid? I guess so. I think I'm moving to another country.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:24 AM

196. Yawn, oh good, tempers flare and

disappointment reigns.

You would have loved those sixties! Don't look at the losses. Look at what is needed to win the next battle.

Don't give up on poetic justice either. When Reagan was King in the land of Calafia, he closed the State Mental Hospitals, two years later I started working in locked psych. Learned the FIRST persons kicked out on the street were what we then called the Mentally Retarded/IQ functioning level. I couldn't believe it. "The least among us"!
I still am amazed to this day Ronny was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

Seven times the $upport-ya think someone wants $omething in in return?

I've got to go, have to tear my sackcloth in grief. And wouldn't it figure, its in pretty good shape?



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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:29 AM

197. goddammit

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:31 AM

198. We don't get fooled again! No!

oh wait......

-p

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:35 AM

199. Money trumps all else! ... That's the moral of this WI fable. Money trumps EVERYTHING!

Thanks, SCOTUS.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:43 AM

200. The wheel needs to turn just a little more.

And some reaping from what's been sown needs to happen.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:43 AM

201. Exit polls have been off by increasing margins since 2000 or before,

despite efforts to "correct" them.

I hope folks in the Elections Group look into this (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1091).

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Response to snot (Reply #201)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:12 AM

209. Exit polls were pretty good predictors in the days before election equipment

was easily accessible via the internet...

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #209)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:06 AM

250. Exactly!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:50 AM

202. I really thought we had a chance

but I guess this really does show America has been bought and the morons that just sit and watch tv and never bother to get off their arses and find out the truth don't realize what they have just done.

Money + fear + lies = GOPT campaigning and it's only going to get worse. So much for caring for each other and ensuring that we remain a democracy - what has happened to America?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:51 AM

203. I couldn't have said it any better. United v. Citizens was the death knell of our democracy. :-(

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:53 AM

205. Wake up and smell the Fascism.

I'm sure you smelled it before, but tonight it's insanely strong.

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Response to donheld (Reply #205)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:17 AM

211. Nooooooooooooooooo!

shit.



-p

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:06 AM

207. I threw up in my mouth a little... but then said WTF

Seriously. I have possibly not taken the right pill.

Cuz this CitizensUnitedStates preached it.............................


Throw me in the dungeon and throw away the key.....

\Calling
BULLLSHIT.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:07 AM

208. no real surprises but...

the senate thing is having me like unable to sleep , get with it Racine....

NBC did slip up by declaring they are owned by the Koch Brothers but other than that. I would have been surprised if he lost. He knows how to cheat, he had the money now we have a talking point. WI took one to the gut, so now we can say how the Koch Brothers can buy an election. Which is why I really didn't want Obama in the state. Didn't want Clinton in either but couldn't be helped.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:15 AM

210. gov snot locker will look good in orange...

 





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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:22 AM

212. You got the Democracy

That Republicans paid for via Citizens United.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:36 AM

214. I . do. not. understand. what . happened. nt

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:08 AM

215. Its all in the game, unfortunately.

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Response to StarrMatthieu (Reply #220)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:43 AM

221. Good night, troll

The backlash cometh. Conservatives really need to review "A Tale of Two Cities". You are working hard to re-create the conditions that make that kind of horror likely again. Fools.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:12 AM

224. Yep, pretty depressing

I know this feeling. I've had it before.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:53 AM

226. Bummer

Ayn Rand selfishness wins the day.




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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:55 AM

227. What you said times a million. n/t

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:25 AM

229. I am not violent, but almost threw a beer

At my TV screen.

And then I burst into tears.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:46 AM

230. Brevity is the soul of wit.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:02 AM

231. One word said it all!

 

Couldn't have voiced it any better - thanks.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:02 AM

235. Really? There is no way anyone, especially a political junkie, should be surprised by the result.

I'm shocked that anyone on our side thought Walker was going to lose.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:15 AM

237. 19

 

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Response to 1000 Words (Reply #237)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:04 AM

252. Thanks for Goddammit. May I request Asshat as your next word?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:15 AM

238. it's the next morning, i'm feeling quite sad.

do you think that justice just runs out til there isn't anymore?

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Response to kinggrain (Reply #242)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:59 AM

243. It's both.

"It's not a democracy" is a RW saying which explains why they're comfortable with vote rigging.

BTW "republic" just means a country that's not ruled by a monarch. China is a republic, for example.

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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #243)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:28 AM

253. In other words, kinggrain was just another mindless troll

reciting what he's been told to memorize.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:00 AM

244. Ayup. nt

 

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:01 AM

245. FUCKED!

The cheese is not the only stinking thing in Wisconsin.

And FUCK is an understatement. I'll bet the filthy five on the SCOTUS are happy with their work. They have brought down democracy in the USA. By the corporation and for the corporation.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:36 AM

251. i could not watch MSNBC last night

I got home from volunteering at an an exhilarating public event on the Venus solar transit to this news. I could not bear to watch the news last night. Now it's morning, and i want to know wtf happened. Not rantings from upset people, but actual analysis. I'm sure some people will post about it today. We need to know what voters were thinking. Calling them idiots is not helpful. They had a reason for their votes and if we want to make further progress, not only in WI but across the country, we need to understand what they were thinking.


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Response to shireen (Reply #251)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:47 PM

269. Because Barrett was a terrible choice to represent Dems

 

He came across as a guy without a plan and a whiner. If he just once, especially during the debates, would have spoken about what he would have done differently in specifics, maybe more Independent voters like me would have voted for him. Walker has a plan Barrett doesn't and he's not doing anything for the city of Milwaukee but running it into the ground. Doyle needs to take part of that blame too.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:08 PM

255. I couldn't have said it better.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:25 PM

258. Fuck turned into Fuck Yeah. Go WI Senate :)

thanks to Racine...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:29 PM

260. Well-said!!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:23 PM

262. Well said! I kind of feel a new kind of kinship to you

I thought I was one of the few that tends to use extraordinarily foul language to make my point.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:05 PM

264. "Never strike a king unless you are sure you shall kill him." (Emerson)

We're in for it now.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:57 PM

266. Where was the Pres?

I would have like to see the Pres up in Wisconsin pushing this election. Our union brothers and sisters spent a lot of blood, sweat, tears and $$ trying to defeat Walker. Where was the President?

Sorry but a Tweet a day before the election is a weak effort...

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Response to Clear Blue Sky (Reply #266)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:38 PM

268. Staying out of state government business, is where he was, and rightly so.

It is not the business of a sitting President, who serves the NATION and is part of the federal govt., to interfere with STATE government or elections. It is not his business, is inappropriate, is unethical, and is just an all around bad idea. It is NONE of a President's busness what a state does within its own government, which is what a recall is.

That's why Bush didn't interfere with the California David recall.

Obama did all he could do, which was to endorse the Democrat. Then he went about the business he was elected to do: run the nation.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:11 PM

271. When the air seems to go out of Occupy efforts (that began in Wisconsin), it is a warning sign

You could see coming.

It is a symptom of a larger problem.

(Not to suggest the Occupy movement is dying, I certainly hope not. I want to remain involved. But it is part of the same momentum that motivated the recall, so lack of momentum for one = lack of momentum for the other -- in the popular consciousness.)

I'd love to see a reversal of the trend, but it is a disturbing trend.

Statistics matter, and in this age of mass media, people operate increasingly as a homogeneous, sheep-like herd. You can tell which way the wind is blowing long before the storm hits.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:01 PM

272. K & R!! + John Nichols on Walker

Last edited Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:17 PM - Edit history (2)

From: Democracy Now.org
June 6, 2012

Amy Goodman:
"John Nichols, what about the Democratic National Committee, President Obama not going to Wisconsin, the DNC not putting in the kind of money that people were calling for, although Walker had tens of millions of dollars poured into his campaign from outside the state?"

John Nichols:
"Absolutely. It was a stark contrast. What you see is a Republican Party that is activist and engaged, not just at the national level, but down into the state and local levels. The Republican National Committee chairman, Reince Priebus, who is a Wisconsinite and who's actually a member of the law firm that is representing Governor Walker in many of his current legal troubles, said from the start of the race that the Republicans were, "all in" this contest, meaning that they would be there for whatever was necessary. The Republican Governors Association began attacking Democrat Tom Barrett before he had announced his candidacy. So it was just an overwhelming level of Republican engagement.

In contrast to that, the Democratic National Committee really was in a bit of a wrangle with state Democrats about whether they would give $500,000 for some get-out-the-vote efforts.
And President Obama meticulously avoided visiting the state and made his final contribution to the campaign, which was a tweet on Monday night.
The comparison between tens of millions of dollars and an all-in effort by the RNC and by national Republicans, and a tweet from President Obama, I think, sums it up a little painfully."

Watch/ Hear entire interview:
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/6/walker_survives_wisconsin_recall/

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:46 PM

273. I agree completely..

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274. DISMAYED is what I am

... but remember... Tom Delay was once thought to be invincible... don't fight 'em, indict 'em!

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276. Welcome to DU! That's an amusing catch-phrase! nt

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277. Welcome to DU! Yes, keep on fighting.

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275. This has GOT to be the most highly recommended one-word post in DU history!

(By the way, K&R!)

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281. Kicked and fucking DU Recommended!!


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