Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:50 PM

Skinner (57,364 posts)

FUCK.

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281 replies	Author	Time	Post
FUCK. (Original post)	Skinner	Jun 2012	OP
61% to 38%	sufrommich	Jun 2012	#1
That's not likely to be final.	TheWraith	Jun 2012	#8
58-40 now	Generic Other	Jun 2012	#36
56-43	Generic Other	Jun 2012	#147
55-44 now	Matariki	Jun 2012	#159
Looks like the end result is going to be 53-46.	TheWraith	Jun 2012	#206
Theres something wrong here	INdemo	Jun 2012	#248
Average of polls was 6 points according to Nate Silver 2 days ago	Capt. Obvious	Jun 2012	#249
Rigged	WV Democrat 59	Jun 2012	#265
Don't bet on it.	SylviaD	Jun 2012	#280
Sounds like they're getting more brazen and couldn't care less if it looks like they cheated.	gtar100	Jun 2012	#204
Wisconsin has made its bed, and it will lie in it, corporate bedbugs and all.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#256
Really, Wisconsin?	Arugula Latte	Jun 2012	#2
NYT reported 'large majority' told exit pollsters recalls are only acceptable for malfeasance	flpoljunkie	Jun 2012	#234
that is the message the media was pounding up there.	mopinko	Jun 2012	#239
Yes, really. (Sigh.) This is who "we" are.	MH1	Jun 2012	#254
That was my EXACT word...	Versailles	Jun 2012	#3
Yes	elleng	Jun 2012	#4
Those figures make no sense	malaise	Jun 2012	#5
Sounds like the fix is in. There is no way Milwaukee and Madison could have already been counted.	sarcasmo	Jun 2012	#62
Not to mention the reputed 50/50 exit polls.	Rozlee	Jun 2012	#101
Don't worry, the discrepancies will all be explained away to us.	Matariki	Jun 2012	#157
This message was hidden by jury decision.	IamAlwaysRight	Jun 2012	#172
It's over. The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.	bullwinkle428	Jun 2012	#6
Careful. Some people will actually believe it was the Germans and not know	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#257
what you said.	Matariki	Jun 2012	#7
FUCK, indeed! nt	cry baby	Jun 2012	#9
This is way too soon...	Ranting_Wacko	Jun 2012	#10
All the more reason to call it. Color me skeptical. n/t	gkhouston	Jun 2012	#21
Something is fishy	mvd	Jun 2012	#11
+1	Matariki	Jun 2012	#24
+2	sarcasmo	Jun 2012	#63
+1	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#77
Very interesting point...absolutely right. nt	snappyturtle	Jun 2012	#102
This +1 million	a2liberal	Jun 2012	#113
what you said!	LibGranny	Jun 2012	#132
The conservanazis have had practice at fixing the vote in Waukesha County.	TxVietVet	Jun 2012	#135
Exit polls are rarely that far off. Doesn't it feel like a taste of Russia..	mvd	Jun 2012	#143
yes. exactly.	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#150
Remember how far off they were in the Presidential 2004?	whathehell	Jun 2012	#223
I know. This is the New America. We're doomed. nt	gateley	Jun 2012	#175
WHAT?! Already?! SO DEPRESSING.	Zax2me	Jun 2012	#12
I feel sick	jsmirman	Jun 2012	#13
Make that Fucking Sick	Left Coast2020	Jun 2012	#103
It's no longer a democracy - it's an auction.	CrispyQ	Jun 2012	#246
Yes indeed FUCK	one_voice	Jun 2012	#14
Since the Republicans always project...	theaocp	Jun 2012	#15
This is fucking hard to take	GarroHorus	Jun 2012	#16
where the hell is john king with all his district maps? nt	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2012	#17
Wisconsin dems, don't concede!	Baitball Blogger	Jun 2012	#18
They're smaller and easier to count.	AlbertCat	Jun 2012	#139
Still think that the same day registrations should be examined.	Baitball Blogger	Jun 2012	#154
I contend it died in 1980.	southerncrone	Jun 2012	#217
I'd say 1980 was when the first pellet of rat poison was slipped into its breakfast	nxylas	Jun 2012	#225
Correct. I said the same thing to someone this morning in another	TBF	Jun 2012	#261
Yes. Graham-Rudman was the beginning of the underhanded stealing of our future.	southerncrone	Jun 2012	#278
I remember hearing "Graham-Rudman" but not what it meant -	TBF	Jun 2012	#279
.	myrna minx	Jun 2012	#19
Double Fuck!	Little Star	Jun 2012	#20
I am officially depressed.	redwitch	Jun 2012	#22
It's a hard loss.	limpyhobbler	Jun 2012	#23
It's not even close. Fuck fuck fuck fuck!	jillan	Jun 2012	#25
This message was hidden by jury decision.	FranklinB	Jun 2012	#26
Anyone hear anything?	DearAbby	Jun 2012	#33
Stench of an ass sucking freeper	HangOnKids	Jun 2012	#45
You won't have money to buy him a beer.	Fawke Em	Jun 2012	#44
John Doe.	Gregorian	Jun 2012	#27
Stupid people vote for stupid politicians	dark forest	Jun 2012	#114
People who vote against their own interests and think they are going to be rich one day	maryellen99	Jun 2012	#166
Exactly. Except --sorry. I don't believe it. I remember 2011 WI fiasco as detailed on Brad blog.	cyberpj	Jun 2012	#28
I agree. They went too far when they called it while people were still in line to vote. n/t	EFerrari	Jun 2012	#213
I think you should chill out for an hour or two	undeterred	Jun 2012	#29
Citizens United.	spooky3	Jun 2012	#30
THE CITIZENS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA	spanone	Jun 2012	#31
Wrong...	glogrrl	Jun 2012	#222
THIS IS NOT OVER.	Fire Walk With Me	Jun 2012	#32
finally	sweetapogee	Jun 2012	#233
Maybe this will wake up some of the centrists. nm	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#240
When is the soonest they can hit Walker with another recall.	mike3121	Jun 2012	#263
So does this mean the Koch brothers will be buying ALL of the states in Novenber?	Walk away	Jun 2012	#34
No, not all, only the ones they need to win the White House, Congress, and Senate nt	bupkus	Jun 2012	#48
Double fuck! Hope he is indited soon. Now we're going to have to look at that face in	Auntie Bush	Jun 2012	#35
David Shuster said on Current he's waiting for the Associated Press to call it before	valerief	Jun 2012	#37
My sentiments exactly	WhoIsNumberNone	Jun 2012	#38
The way things are going Orly Tatz will win in CA. This is crazy.	jwirr	Jun 2012	#39
I don't know why everyone is shocked.	iandhr	Jun 2012	#40
We all were watching Al Sharpton and Ed Shultz and they had us pumped to win.	limpyhobbler	Jun 2012	#66
i don't know why you're here.	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#81
Because unlike everyone else I am in touch with reality.	iandhr	Jun 2012	#140
yeah, i bet.	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#146
You bet what? They were right and you were wrong.	Dawgs	Jun 2012	#236
This message was self-deleted by its author	AlbertCat	Jun 2012	#155
Well, I guess 'Corporations are voters, my friend"	FailureToCommunicate	Jun 2012	#41
We need to do something about out of control corporate influence over govermnent.	limpyhobbler	Jun 2012	#75
I find it so hard to believe	notadmblnd	Jun 2012	#42
I know. I'm crushed. I feel SO BAD.	gateley	Jun 2012	#178
Yeah. No shit.	calimary	Jun 2012	#43
You forgot one	bupkus	Jun 2012	#52
Wasn't Robert Kennedy assasinated on June 5th?	Mayflower1	Jun 2012	#55
No, it was June 6	DesertRat	Jun 2012	#67
That's weird. My newspaper this morning said June 5. nt	bupkus	Jun 2012	#84
Shot on the fifth, died on the sixth.	WillowTree	Jun 2012	#90
Yep. June 6. But maybe this is why there's some confusion on the date	bupkus	Jun 2012	#97
It's a braced game	TomClash	Jun 2012	#46
I agree, but no one will listen	lunasun	Jun 2012	#89
Me too	zeemike	Jun 2012	#100
ut oh	ManyShadesOf	Jun 2012	#47
I still say this is too close to call	Bjorn Against	Jun 2012	#49
NOOO NOOO NOO NOOOOOOOOOOOO	mzteris	Jun 2012	#50
The outside money has demonized all unions.	Grantuspeace	Jun 2012	#51
Who could have forseen this?	deaniac21	Jun 2012	#53
I don't understand this one bit. Why Wisconsin?	Ninga	Jun 2012	#54
Goddamnit...Didn't I just see exit polls @ 50/50?	AzDar	Jun 2012	#56
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Wellman	Jun 2012	#57
Wow, You're a moron.	The Doctor.	Jun 2012	#64
Are you not supposed to treat others as you would treat yourself.	tabatha	Jun 2012	#69
LOL	laundry_queen	Jun 2012	#74
It's not over yet. Less than 40% of precincts have been counted.	Jamaal510	Jun 2012	#58
Citizens United. Period.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2012	#59
Couldn't have said it better!!!	Rhiannon12866	Jun 2012	#60
ditto !!	april	Jun 2012	#61
Election fraud. Plain and simple. And it was legalized by SCOTUS.	madinmaryland	Jun 2012	#65
America voted for a strong liberal in 2008.	UnrepentantLiberal	Jun 2012	#68
Ugh...how does this happen?	Marrah_G	Jun 2012	#70
No going back, never despair, and don't forget	Voice for Peace	Jun 2012	#71
The fun will go on.	Voice for Peace	Jun 2012	#80
And no looking back	zeemike	Jun 2012	#112
This is unbelievable and more	findrskeep	Jun 2012	#72
How? Here's how:	bupkus	Jun 2012	#161
The money is just a cover for	southerncrone	Jun 2012	#218
The Supreme Court '5' are very happy tonight	young_at_heart	Jun 2012	#73
Simple, short, concise.	William769	Jun 2012	#76
Jah, that sums it up.	HereSince1628	Jun 2012	#78
yup	Flatpicker	Jun 2012	#79
What you said.	Lone_Star_Dem	Jun 2012	#82
In California in 2003 money made all the difference too	bupkus	Jun 2012	#83
I guess Wisconsin wants to be the right wing expement. What a fucking shame /nt	still_one	Jun 2012	#85
sadly K&R nt	TBF	Jun 2012	#86
Fucking kicked, and fukity fuck fuck fuck	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#87
If it weren't NBC calling it	nvme	Jun 2012	#88
If it's on the up and up	frogmarch	Jun 2012	#91
Unbelievable...n/t	greytdemocrat	Jun 2012	#92
walker owns	The Wizard	Jun 2012	#93
I feel sick to my stomach....we are so	snappyturtle	Jun 2012	#94
This message was hidden by jury decision.	dschis1000	Jun 2012	#95
Take your bible and shove it where the lord won't go.	kestrel91316	Jun 2012	#105
+1 nt	TBF	Jun 2012	#111
Was that really necessary? n/t	SylviaD	Jun 2012	#127
It sure as hell was. Did you not read that fundie troll's post??	kestrel91316	Jun 2012	#131
This message was self-deleted by its author	HangOnKids	Jun 2012	#191
This message was hidden by jury decision.	John_in_Ohio	Jun 2012	#129
FUCK YOU. GO AWAY.	kestrel91316	Jun 2012	#134
Did you notice that piece of crap got one jury vote to leave it? nm	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#241
Yes, I did. Apparently trolls can get jury privileges.	kestrel91316	Jun 2012	#259
Fucking BULLSHIT!!	Fozzledick	Jun 2012	#96
Fuck fuck...	marlakay	Jun 2012	#98
Joey Stalin and his acolyte Ahmed Ahmadinejad are in charge of counting, perhaps? nt	MADem	Jun 2012	#99
RIP Democracy	harun	Jun 2012	#104
No.	Canuckistanian	Jun 2012	#106
I think the way the demonstrations were portrayed, by the media,	backpages	Jun 2012	#141
The media is at it again	Rosa Luxemburg	Jun 2012	#151
Reports of union activists in Michigan	dgl	Jun 2012	#181
That makes no sense, mr. 1-post	Canuckistanian	Jun 2012	#184
Fight back against something that never happened?	Bjorn Against	Jun 2012	#186
I never said anything about out-of-state voters	Canuckistanian	Jun 2012	#247
I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the person who claimed they were busing people in	Bjorn Against	Jun 2012	#267
The unions' fault?	Canuckistanian	Jun 2012	#182
how can this be?	iemitsu	Jun 2012	#107
Paper ballots should be used in ALL elections !!! n/t	Tx4obama	Jun 2012	#108
They did use paper ballots	sunnystarr	Jun 2012	#232
Pure poetry	FBaggins	Jun 2012	#109
Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Walker yet, citing ongoing voting	Tx4obama	Jun 2012	#110
And the DLC idiots in control of the DNC just sat by twiddling thier thumbs.	Odin2005	Jun 2012	#115
The results were less surprising...	Amerigo Vespucci	Jun 2012	#116
Midwestern moderate Dems are a sometimes contradictory breed...	sweetloukillbot	Jun 2012	#156
All The KOCH $$$$ Didn't Just Go Into Ads/Campaigning	HangOnKids	Jun 2012	#187
Fuck it. Kick.	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#117
Fucking Bullshit	Melissa G	Jun 2012	#118
That's what money gets you	lunatica	Jun 2012	#119
The only thing that will make me feel better	pink-o	Jun 2012	#120
So heartbreaking.	RiffRandell	Jun 2012	#121
BULLSHIT!!!!	citizen blues	Jun 2012	#122
This site giving updates every minute. It ain't over yet.	crunch60	Jun 2012	#123
Citizens United	pinto	Jun 2012	#124
Definitely not the end I wrote.	caseymoz	Jun 2012	#125
Nah, that ain't FUCK...	yoyossarian	Jun 2012	#126
What has happened?	SylviaD	Jun 2012	#128
I know. I keep wondering - WHY, Wisconsin? You LIKE this? You approve of walker?	calimary	Jun 2012	#188
Election was rigged.	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#130
It's a sad day that's for sure. But this should make us all the more determined to	totodeinhere	Jun 2012	#133
I give up. They've broken me.	PeaceNikki	Jun 2012	#136
I'm sooo sorry---You've worked so hard!! This must be rigged!!	hue	Jun 2012	#148
Thank you for all you do. I respect and applaud all your efforts.	think	Jun 2012	#152
Here's a hug...	pacalo	Jun 2012	#160
WTF??? I'm checking out of reality....	hue	Jun 2012	#137
Gap is closing	Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin	Jun 2012	#138
Uh, yeah - it's getting real close...	stuart68	Jun 2012	#144
it was called too quickly I smell a rat	proud patriot	Jun 2012	#142
Options	12ZTR	Jun 2012	#145
+1000000, and welcome aboard, wish it was a happier place for you	DiverDave	Jun 2012	#228
Exactly what I said when I heard	williesgirl	Jun 2012	#149
Fuck indeed, I'm going to vote Republican from now on...	SparkyOR	Jun 2012	#153
Nope	Jigs	Jun 2012	#167
this is indeed sad and depressing. Sometimes evil prevails especially when evil has a lot more money	Douglas Carpenter	Jun 2012	#158
Tonight in WI, 1 + 1 = 11	blkmusclmachine	Jun 2012	#162
Koch Bros and Rove bought the election	Mkap	Jun 2012	#163
Youbetcha they did. And this was just a beta	ProfessionalLeftist	Jun 2012	#171
ditto	Beringia	Jun 2012	#164
This message was hidden by jury decision.	FOB Tiger	Jun 2012	#165
I am embarrassed to be a Badger.	WestWisconsinDem	Jun 2012	#168
11.11pm: Milwaukee mayor and Democratic candidate Tom Barrett is now making his concession speech	PufPuf23	Jun 2012	#169
Exactly.	ProfessionalLeftist	Jun 2012	#170
I know. Fuck. nt	gateley	Jun 2012	#173
Roger that.	lonestarnot	Jun 2012	#174
I would say that 30 years of union bashing	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#176
Now they will find out what it's like without them -	TBF	Jun 2012	#185
Doublefuck nt	Zorra	Jun 2012	#177
I almost threw up when I saw the headline.	Initech	Jun 2012	#179
That's all you have to say? Yea, I hear you. nt	babylonsister	Jun 2012	#180
FUCK indeed.	blackspade	Jun 2012	#183
State Precinct Graphic interactive by PBS	happerbolic	Jun 2012	#189
Dear Corporate "citizens"	Plucketeer	Jun 2012	#190
You win some and lose some	taught_me_patience	Jun 2012	#192
How would unions be dismantled state by state?	ilikeitthatway	Jun 2012	#195
we're scrooooowed.	DreamsOfEquality	Jun 2012	#193
I Just Don't Get It	YOHABLO	Jun 2012	#194
Yawn, oh good, tempers flare and	turtlerescue1	Jun 2012	#196
goddammit	Kali	Jun 2012	#197
We don't get fooled again! No!	Phlem	Jun 2012	#198
Money trumps all else! ... That's the moral of this WI fable. Money trumps EVERYTHING!	Bozita	Jun 2012	#199
The wheel needs to turn just a little more.	Loudly	Jun 2012	#200
Exit polls have been off by increasing margins since 2000 or before,	snot	Jun 2012	#201
Exit polls were pretty good predictors in the days before election equipment	gkhouston	Jun 2012	#209
Exactly!	snot	Jun 2012	#250
I really thought we had a chance	Smilo	Jun 2012	#202
I couldn't have said it any better. United v. Citizens was the death knell of our democracy. :-(	vietnam_war_vet	Jun 2012	#203
Wake up and smell the Fascism.	donheld	Jun 2012	#205
Nooooooooooooooooo!	Phlem	Jun 2012	#211
I threw up in my mouth a little... but then said WTF	alittlelark	Jun 2012	#207
no real surprises but...	PatrynXX	Jun 2012	#208
gov snot locker will look good in orange...	solarman350	Jun 2012	#210
You got the Democracy	Aerows	Jun 2012	#212
I . do. not. understand. what . happened. nt	Vanje	Jun 2012	#214
Its all in the game, unfortunately.	carlos3k	Jun 2012	#215
Spam deleted by cyberswede (MIR Team)	marrylessey1694	Jun 2012	#216
This message was hidden by jury decision.	oomfoofoo	Jun 2012	#219
This message was hidden by jury decision.	StarrMatthieu	Jun 2012	#220
Good night, troll	The Traveler	Jun 2012	#221
Yep, pretty depressing	lillypaddle	Jun 2012	#224
Bummer	abelenkpe	Jun 2012	#226
What you said times a million. n/t	DLevine	Jun 2012	#227
I am not violent, but almost threw a beer	a la izquierda	Jun 2012	#229
Brevity is the soul of wit.	JNelson6563	Jun 2012	#230
One word said it all!	rrHeretic	Jun 2012	#231
Really? There is no way anyone, especially a political junkie, should be surprised by the result.	Dawgs	Jun 2012	#235
19	1000 Words	Jun 2012	#237
Thanks for Goddammit. May I request Asshat as your next word?	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#252
it's the next morning, i'm feeling quite sad.	barbtries	Jun 2012	#238
This message was hidden by jury decision.	kinggrain	Jun 2012	#242
It's both.	CJCRANE	Jun 2012	#243
In other words, kinggrain was just another mindless troll	Lasher	Jun 2012	#253
Ayup. nt	daaron	Jun 2012	#244
FUCKED!	Hubert Flottz	Jun 2012	#245
i could not watch MSNBC last night	shireen	Jun 2012	#251
Because Barrett was a terrible choice to represent Dems	Mrs.Independent	Jun 2012	#269
I couldn't have said it better.	FiveGoodMen	Jun 2012	#255
Fuck turned into Fuck Yeah. Go WI Senate :)	PatrynXX	Jun 2012	#258
Well-said!!	meti57b	Jun 2012	#260
Well said! I kind of feel a new kind of kinship to you	Horse with no Name	Jun 2012	#262
"Never strike a king unless you are sure you shall kill him." (Emerson)	TahitiNut	Jun 2012	#264
Where was the Pres?	Clear Blue Sky	Jun 2012	#266
Staying out of state government business, is where he was, and rightly so.	Honeycombe8	Jun 2012	#268
This message was self-deleted by its author	red dog 1	Jun 2012	#270
When the air seems to go out of Occupy efforts (that began in Wisconsin), it is a warning sign	Leopolds Ghost	Jun 2012	#271
K & R!! + John Nichols on Walker	red dog 1	Jun 2012	#272
I agree completely..	Stuart G	Jun 2012	#273
DISMAYED is what I am	warrprayer	Jun 2012	#274
Welcome to DU! That's an amusing catch-phrase! nt	MADem	Jun 2012	#276
Welcome to DU! Yes, keep on fighting.	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#277
This has GOT to be the most highly recommended one-word post in DU history!	11 Bravo	Jun 2012	#275
Kicked and fucking DU Recommended!!	madinmaryland	Sep 2012	#281

Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

sufrommich (13,502 posts)

1. 61% to 38%

Double fuck.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

TheWraith (24,331 posts)

8. That's not likely to be final.

If they're calling it this relatively early, it's likely because they've matched the results so far to the exit polling, so most likely the result will be pretty close to the exit poll. Maybe Walker by 4-7.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

Generic Other (20,298 posts)

36. 58-40 now

crap.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

Generic Other (20,298 posts)

147. 56-43

gack

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #147)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:13 PM

Matariki (14,997 posts)

159. 55-44 now

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Response to Matariki (Reply #159)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:59 AM

TheWraith (24,331 posts)

206. Looks like the end result is going to be 53-46.

So about 7 points, on the upper end of the 4-7 I'd guessed earlier.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #206)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:28 AM

INdemo (3,160 posts)

248. Theres something wrong here

I mean the polls indicated a few points difference before election and I could see 1 or 2 % points but no...There was just too much grass roots effort going forward and with such a high voter turn out for this kind of outcome with such a high margin of vivtory...There is something wrong.. Money buys votes or money destroys votes and just maybe the Koch Bros were playing both ends of the field.
..When the corporate media talks about exit polling,I remember in 2000 and 2004(ohio) that Repukes were saying.."exit polling just doesn't mean much and not accurate"..And now the polls barely close and these right wing hacks report a victory from results of exit polling....Strange.....

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Response to INdemo (Reply #248)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:01 AM

Capt. Obvious (1,825 posts)

249. Average of polls was 6 points according to Nate Silver 2 days ago

Pretty close to end result.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:37 PM

WV Democrat 59 (4 posts)

265. Rigged

No way in hell should Walker have won!! There was a massive Democrat turn out to get a re-election vote on the ballot. There was a massive turn out yesterday at the polls. This outcome was rigged. I believe in the weeks to come there will be a criminal investigates into this matter.

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Response to WV Democrat 59 (Reply #265)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:10 PM

SylviaD (162 posts)

280. Don't bet on it.

We've lost...everything.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:52 AM

gtar100 (2,528 posts)

204. Sounds like they're getting more brazen and couldn't care less if it looks like they cheated.

All they have to do is deny it and the right-wing media will go along with it (it's not just Fox anymore). It may be time to work on those underground tunnels.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:17 PM

JDPriestly (37,735 posts)

256. Wisconsin has made its bed, and it will lie in it, corporate bedbugs and all.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

Arugula Latte (40,089 posts)

2. Really, Wisconsin?

Seriously?

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:02 AM

flpoljunkie (25,564 posts)

234. NYT reported 'large majority' told exit pollsters recalls are only acceptable for malfeasance

(Sheesh! When voters feel this way about recalls, Barrett obviously had no chance.)

Six out of 10 voters, or 60 percent, told exit pollsters they think recalls are only acceptable if there’s been a case of malfeasance or improper behavior, CBS News exit polls found.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77106.html

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #234)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:29 AM

mopinko (39,647 posts)

239. that is the message the media was pounding up there.

as far as i can tell. those big bucks did their job, catapulting the propaganda.

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:26 PM

MH1 (12,775 posts)

254. Yes, really. (Sigh.) This is who "we" are.

"We" being the society as a whole. Of course not every individual. But the individuals who aren't, were greatly drowned out by those who are exactly that.

What Skinner said. Double.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

Versailles (457 posts)

3. That was my EXACT word...

Wife kinda looked at me funny...I don't usually curse out loud like that.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

elleng (40,519 posts)

4. Yes

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

malaise (105,977 posts)

5. Those figures make no sense

61%??? WTF???

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:16 PM

sarcasmo (13,550 posts)

62. Sounds like the fix is in. There is no way Milwaukee and Madison could have already been counted.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:32 PM

Rozlee (1,369 posts)

101. Not to mention the reputed 50/50 exit polls.

And the polling done before the race. Something doesn't add up and it stinks to high heaven.

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Response to malaise (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM

Matariki (14,997 posts)

157. Don't worry, the discrepancies will all be explained away to us.

As always.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:52 PM

bullwinkle428 (11,384 posts)

6. It's over. The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:20 PM

JDPriestly (37,735 posts)

257. Careful. Some people will actually believe it was the Germans and not know

it was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor. I know you are joking but some of the ignorant trolls and lurkers who haunt this site might take you at your word.

Hope I'm not offending you, bullwinkle428, but there are a lot of ignorant Republicans out there.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:52 PM

Matariki (14,997 posts)

7. what you said.

it almost always sucks doesn't it.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

cry baby (4,806 posts)

9. FUCK, indeed! nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

Ranting_Wacko (220 posts)

10. This is way too soon...

The polls haven't been closed an hour. There are still people waiting in line to vote in some parts of the urban centers!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

gkhouston (21,642 posts)

21. All the more reason to call it. Color me skeptical. n/t

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

mvd (59,744 posts)

11. Something is fishy

NO ONE had a lead this big. This country is in big, big trouble.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:57 PM

Matariki (14,997 posts)

24. +1

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:17 PM

sarcasmo (13,550 posts)

63. +2

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

HiPointDem (16,851 posts)

77. +1

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:32 PM

snappyturtle (11,773 posts)

102. Very interesting point...absolutely right. nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:40 PM

a2liberal (996 posts)

113. This +1 million

they've got the rigging thing down pat

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:00 PM

LibGranny (468 posts)

132. what you said!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:02 PM

TxVietVet (1,297 posts)

135. The conservanazis have had practice at fixing the vote in Waukesha County.

I'm sure they did it elsewhere. The conservanazi repugs are evil, conniving folks.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

mvd (59,744 posts)

143. Exit polls are rarely that far off. Doesn't it feel like a taste of Russia..

came here? What happened to all those big crowds in Milwaukee/Dane?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

HiPointDem (16,851 posts)

150. yes. exactly.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:27 AM

whathehell (11,418 posts)

223. Remember how far off they were in the Presidential 2004?

They were at such an unexplained disparity that I thought

they actually "gave up" exit polling.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:30 PM

gateley (61,882 posts)

175. I know. This is the New America. We're doomed. nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

Zax2me (2,515 posts)

12. WHAT?! Already?! SO DEPRESSING.

I'm fucking sick.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

jsmirman (4,188 posts)

13. I feel sick

I mean, our democracy has been fucked forever, but man, our democracy is seriously under attack.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:33 PM

Left Coast2020 (1,483 posts)

103. Make that Fucking Sick

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:06 AM

CrispyQ (16,031 posts)

246. It's no longer a democracy - it's an auction.

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I have that bumper sticker somewhere & I think today is a good day to pull it out & stick it in the back window of my truck.

Another DUer asked this morning: Who did Barrett concede to? Walker or the Koch brothers?

Fuck the Roberts Supreme Court & Citizens United. I cried harder last night than I did in 2004. I"m still on the verge of tears today. I feel sick & can't eat a damned thing. I'm pissed & disgusted at the same time.

FUCK.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

one_voice (11,009 posts)

14. Yes indeed FUCK

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

theaocp (1,603 posts)

15. Since the Republicans always project...

I'd say they're up to their eyeballs in their own voter fraud. Just a thought. G'night.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:54 PM

GarroHorus (1,055 posts)

16. This is fucking hard to take

No need to be spending any time in Wisconsin any time soon, that's for sure. On my list of "No Travels" for now.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:55 PM

Laura PourMeADrink (15,216 posts)

17. where the hell is john king with all his district maps? nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:55 PM

Baitball Blogger (11,246 posts)

18. Wisconsin dems, don't concede!

In Florida the red counties are the first to be counted. They're smaller and easier to count. The urban blue areas take longer.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:04 PM

AlbertCat (10,450 posts)

139. They're smaller and easier to count.

But seriously, it shouldn't be this close to begin with.

America is finished. It died in 2000. You all know why...

Cheating and stupid people more concerned about "America's got Talent".

Thanks WI for reminding us that money talks.... and so does bull shit.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM

Baitball Blogger (11,246 posts)

154. Still think that the same day registrations should be examined.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #139)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:41 AM

southerncrone (4,512 posts)

217. I contend it died in 1980.

The noose just gets tighter every time they regain power. I can hardly breathe.

Should we all request paper ballots in Nov., or vote early?

Or will we just be wasting our time.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:45 AM

nxylas (4,697 posts)

225. I'd say 1980 was when the first pellet of rat poison was slipped into its breakfast

It's been getting progressively worse eince then, and today was the last gasp.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:33 PM

TBF (18,403 posts)

261. Correct. I said the same thing to someone this morning in another

thread and they called me "defeatist". That's not my intention at all, but I'm also not 21 and I'm not going to pretend I haven't watched what's happened since Reagan took office. He is the one who started cutting the capital gains taxes (which help the very wealthiest investors the most) and you can see the results in the past 30 years with the gap between rich and poor growing exponentially. Now the middle is being squarely attacked, and many don't realize it.

To fight back rather than be completely defeated I think we have to acknowledge what has happened in this country. We've allowed the very wealthiest to steal our 401Ks, break our unions, and off-shore our jobs. How much more are we going to take?

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Response to TBF (Reply #261)

Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:56 AM

southerncrone (4,512 posts)

278. Yes. Graham-Rudman was the beginning of the underhanded stealing of our future.

Unfortunately, those of us who are over 50 (or maybe 55) are the only ones who remember this.....and only those of us who were paying attention!

I remember in the '80's, Wal-mart had a big "Buy USA" campaign, which in reality was a cover while they undermined our towns by closing down the independent stores in small town America & conspiring w/China to produce cheap crap & ship our industry overseas. Nafta & Gatt just paved the road for a smoother ride for them to take over our retail sector.

So much has been orchestrated over the last 3 decades. We have got to stop "funding" these corporations/ 1% by withholding our $ whenever we can. Difficult, but not impossible. Money is the only language this crowd understands. Take away that power & your cut off the head of the serpent.

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Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:47 AM

TBF (18,403 posts)

279. I remember hearing "Graham-Rudman" but not what it meant -

I bet my mom talked about it. She was small town but very much a flower-child type from the 60s and very interested in politics. She explained the Walmart thing to me as it was happening. She and my dad (who worked in a small foundry and belonged to a union) weren't fooled.

I have become very anti-capitalism as a result of watching the events unfold during my lifetime. I agree with your assessment of starving large corporations and would add that we need to significantly revise our tax code and political funding.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:55 PM

myrna minx (20,535 posts)

19. .

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

Little Star (11,645 posts)

20. Double Fuck!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

redwitch (10,007 posts)

22. I am officially depressed.

So sad.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:56 PM

limpyhobbler (6,641 posts)

23. It's a hard loss.

win some / lose some.

Thanks to Wisconsin Dems for all your hard work and for voting today.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:58 PM

jillan (31,392 posts)

25. It's not even close. Fuck fuck fuck fuck!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

DearAbby (12,180 posts)

33. Anyone hear anything?

and what is that smell?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

HangOnKids (2,486 posts)

45. Stench of an ass sucking freeper

And his Dad's dirty underwear stuck on his face.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

Fawke Em (2,556 posts)

44. You won't have money to buy him a beer.

However, he will be taking slave labor.

Good luck.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:59 PM

Gregorian (19,604 posts)

27. John Doe.

It's still hanging over his head.

Until we stop spending money on the war machine, and start putting energy into educating the people of this country, this is what we're going to see, more and more, I predict.

Stupid people vote for stupid politicians.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:40 PM

dark forest (89 posts)

114. Stupid people vote for stupid politicians

Ain't it the truth!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:20 PM

maryellen99 (714 posts)

166. People who vote against their own interests and think they are going to be rich one day

The wannabe 1%ers.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:59 PM

cyberpj (9,266 posts)

28. Exactly. Except --sorry. I don't believe it. I remember 2011 WI fiasco as detailed on Brad blog.

Last edited Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8511

snip-
"When the ballot bags were taken out and placed upon the counting table, we were literally stunned," one of the citizen observers, Mary Magnuson, a Kloppenburg volunteer, told The BRAD BLOG this morning. "5 out of the 6 ballot bags were almost literally wide open, and ballots could be clearly seen."

AND - It happened too fast. As if a point was being made to anyone else who dared think they could challenge Repbulicans and The Koch Brothers.

"Money Changes Everything..."

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:25 AM

EFerrari (163,986 posts)

213. I agree. They went too far when they called it while people were still in line to vote. n/t

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:01 PM

undeterred (33,217 posts)

29. I think you should chill out for an hour or two

while the votes are being counted.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:01 PM

spooky3 (15,226 posts)

30. Citizens United.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

spanone (72,084 posts)

31. THE CITIZENS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

the best government corporate money can buy

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:09 AM

glogrrl (6 posts)

222. Wrong...

I'd say it's the WORST government corporate money can buy.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

Fire Walk With Me (37,013 posts)

32. THIS IS NOT OVER.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:58 AM

sweetapogee (596 posts)

233. finally

a voice of reason

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:30 AM

rhett o rick (26,661 posts)

240. Maybe this will wake up some of the centrists. nm

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:51 PM

mike3121 (71 posts)

263. When is the soonest they can hit Walker with another recall.

Keep hitting the Wisconsin Repug's with Recalls.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:03 PM

Walk away (4,577 posts)

34. So does this mean the Koch brothers will be buying ALL of the states in Novenber?

I wish I could believe they could be stopped.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

bupkus (1,981 posts)

48. No, not all, only the ones they need to win the White House, Congress, and Senate nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:03 PM

Auntie Bush (15,241 posts)

35. Double fuck! Hope he is indited soon. Now we're going to have to look at that face in

the news for months. He make me sick. :puke"

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

valerief (35,675 posts)

37. David Shuster said on Current he's waiting for the Associated Press to call it before

believing the networks.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

WhoIsNumberNone (4,510 posts)

38. My sentiments exactly

I wonder how many of those counties are using Diebold voting machines....?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

jwirr (20,905 posts)

39. The way things are going Orly Tatz will win in CA. This is crazy.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

iandhr (2,242 posts)

40. I don't know why everyone is shocked.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM

limpyhobbler (6,641 posts)

66. We all were watching Al Sharpton and Ed Shultz and they had us pumped to win.

So then we crashed?

Maybe? Just a theory.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:22 PM

HiPointDem (16,851 posts)

81. i don't know why you're here.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

iandhr (2,242 posts)

140. Because unlike everyone else I am in touch with reality.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

HiPointDem (16,851 posts)

146. yeah, i bet.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:04 AM

Dawgs (10,755 posts)

236. You bet what? They were right and you were wrong.

You might want to rethink your response next time.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM

FailureToCommunicate (4,399 posts)

41. Well, I guess 'Corporations are voters, my friend"

Damn the Rich

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

limpyhobbler (6,641 posts)

75. We need to do something about out of control corporate influence over govermnent.

Or we not going to recognize our own country.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM

notadmblnd (17,098 posts)

42. I find it so hard to believe

I have no words to express how I feel about the results.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:31 PM

gateley (61,882 posts)

178. I know. I'm crushed. I feel SO BAD.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM

calimary (30,556 posts)

43. Yeah. No shit.

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What were they saying? June 5th 2004, ronald reagan died.

Well, looks like on June 5th 2012, democracy died. Buried under a shitload of money in Wisconsin.

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Response to calimary (Reply #43)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:12 PM

bupkus (1,981 posts)

52. You forgot one

June 5, Robert Kennedy was assassinated.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002770823

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

Mayflower1 (94 posts)

55. Wasn't Robert Kennedy assasinated on June 5th?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM

DesertRat (9,281 posts)

67. No, it was June 6

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

bupkus (1,981 posts)

84. That's weird. My newspaper this morning said June 5. nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:28 PM

WillowTree (2,106 posts)

90. Shot on the fifth, died on the sixth.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

bupkus (1,981 posts)

97. Yep. June 6. But maybe this is why there's some confusion on the date

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Robert_F._Kennedy

The assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, a United States Senator and brother of assassinated President John F. Kennedy, took place shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968, in Los Angeles, California.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:09 PM

TomClash (10,944 posts)

46. It's a braced game

The fix was in. I told everyone that a while ago.

It may be worse in November.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:27 PM

lunasun (3,586 posts)

89. I agree, but no one will listen

people give me the evil eye look when I talk about it
like not mentioning it will make it go away
I hope they prove me wrong

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

zeemike (10,819 posts)

100. Me too

And I was sure of it when I saw the polls a week before the election...they made it close to legitimize it all.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:09 PM

ManyShadesOf (639 posts)

47. ut oh

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

Bjorn Against (8,202 posts)

49. I still say this is too close to call

Once Madison and Milwaukee's votes are in I will concede if it is still showing Walker with a big lead, but I am not giving up until the strong Barrett areas have been counted.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:11 PM

mzteris (15,980 posts)

50. NOOO NOOO NOO NOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:11 PM

Grantuspeace (805 posts)

51. The outside money has demonized all unions.

We needed more national help. They left us to fight all of corporate America alone. We brought a knife to a gun fight. The NRA spent bundles. Barrett never had a chance. Yes, fuck!!!!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:12 PM

deaniac21 (6,416 posts)

53. Who could have forseen this?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

Ninga (4,623 posts)

54. I don't understand this one bit. Why Wisconsin?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

AzDar (8,758 posts)

56. Goddamnit...Didn't I just see exit polls @ 50/50?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:17 PM

The Doctor. (17,266 posts)

64. Wow, You're a moron.

Your solution to people having financially secure jobs in this economy is to screw them.

This will harm the economy, but you're not educated enough to understand how or why.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

tabatha (18,795 posts)

69. Are you not supposed to treat others as you would treat yourself.

Btw, Walker is going to jail. Just watch.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

laundry_queen (4,161 posts)

74. LOL

You're so stupid you don't even realize you signed your death warrant. I'll gladly tell you I told you so when you're eating shit to survive and Walker is a billionaire. You are seriously TSTL.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

Jamaal510 (3,151 posts)

58. It's not over yet. Less than 40% of precincts have been counted.

But this is an ominous sign of how much a financial disadvantage can hurt a candidate in a heated election. This election has put more emphasis on how vital it is to keep Republicans from regaining the WH this fall so the Democrats can appoint more liberal SC justices. That way, we can have Citizens United overturned once and for all.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

NRaleighLiberal (28,586 posts)

59. Citizens United. Period.

Double Fuck.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:14 PM

Rhiannon12866 (54,766 posts)

60. Couldn't have said it better!!!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:15 PM

april (1,148 posts)

61. ditto !!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:18 PM

madinmaryland (52,903 posts)

65. Election fraud. Plain and simple. And it was legalized by SCOTUS.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)

68. America voted for a strong liberal in 2008.

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What they got was a moderate. People vote for a LEADER. It's Machiavelli 101. (And for whatever reason he refuses to see this. )

This was predictable.

Edit: This is what really pissed me off the last few years. I finally had to let it go. And it KILLS ME because I had such high hopes for this man.

Oh well... On we go to November...

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

Marrah_G (22,386 posts)

70. Ugh...how does this happen?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

Voice for Peace (8,394 posts)

71. No going back, never despair, and don't forget

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:22 PM

Voice for Peace (8,394 posts)

80. The fun will go on.

Here's to John Doe's Demise

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:39 PM

zeemike (10,819 posts)

112. And no looking back

cause if you look back at how easy it was for them to steal other elections you might despair...better to pin your hopes on the new solution....the law....which will perter out slowly and will be less stresfull.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

findrskeep (533 posts)

72. This is unbelievable and more

than a little fishy. How could he be winning by a margin that wide after the massive protests for months, the recall, the huge voter turn out today AND this early?? The only good I see coming out of this is that hopefully NO ONE will just assume that Obama has the 2012 election won hands down and more funds will be raised and contributed and everyone will know for sure that they MUST vote.

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Response to findrskeep (Reply #72)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:16 PM

bupkus (1,981 posts)

161. How? Here's how:

Mr. Walker, who raised millions of dollars from conservative donors outside the state, had a strong financial advantage, in part because a quirk in Wisconsin law allowed him months of unlimited fund-raising, from the time the recall challenge was mounted to when the election was officially called. As of late last month, about $45.6 million had been spent on behalf of Mr. Walker, compared with about $17.9 million for Mr. Barrett, according to data from the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign, a nonpartisan group that tracks spending.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/us/politics/walker-survives-wisconsin-recall-effort.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

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Response to bupkus (Reply #161)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:52 AM

southerncrone (4,512 posts)

218. The money is just a cover for

the real crime. Just MHO.
We need to look at percentages. The new R math.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

young_at_heart (3,310 posts)

73. The Supreme Court '5' are very happy tonight

Their objective of creating a one-party country has been achieved!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

William769 (30,424 posts)

76. Simple, short, concise.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

HereSince1628 (26,664 posts)

78. Jah, that sums it up.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

Flatpicker (515 posts)

79. yup

I don't think anything we can do will change what is going to happen to this country come November.
It's bought and paid for...

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:23 PM

Lone_Star_Dem (27,548 posts)

82. What you said.

I've worked hard for Barrett. I'm devistated, along with so many others tonight.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:23 PM

bupkus (1,981 posts)

83. In California in 2003 money made all the difference too

Gray Davis was ousted by Republican money in a recall led by Darrell Issa and Ted Costa with plenty of money from millionaires interested in wresting state government control from Democrats. Tonight it's different. Republicans in control destroying the middle class, education, workers' rights, lives, families, but the money is still on the Republican side.

I hope for once money loses but it isn't looking good right now.

I can't believe this asshole Walker is going to win by the numbers they're talking about right now. What the fuck is wrong with this country? Do voters actually think Walker and the Koch brothers have their best interests at heart? Don't they remember what the Bush years brought us? Why do voters vote against their own interests time and time again? Is it just hatred of "liberals"? Are Americans that brainwashed that they'd vote for people who wreck the entire world because they're good at using wedge issues and lies?

This is all just too depressing to contemplate.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

still_one (31,075 posts)

85. I guess Wisconsin wants to be the right wing expement. What a fucking shame /nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

TBF (18,403 posts)

86. sadly K&R nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:25 PM

shcrane71 (1,706 posts)

87. Fucking kicked, and fukity fuck fuck fuck

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:27 PM

nvme (537 posts)

88. If it weren't NBC calling it

FUCK!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:28 PM

frogmarch (7,243 posts)

91. If it's on the up and up

Never mind. It can't be! Something is terribly wrong here.

I agree. FUCK.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:29 PM

greytdemocrat (1,614 posts)

92. Unbelievable...n/t

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:29 PM

The Wizard (7,014 posts)

93. walker owns

the vote tabulators

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:29 PM

snappyturtle (11,773 posts)

94. I feel sick to my stomach....we are so

fucked. (That's my first time to ever use the word online.)
I don't use it lightly.And you know what? To me, 'hope' is
becoming another four letter word.

I don't believe the numbers at all and I am also surprised
by the jovial attitude of MSNBC this evening. I know Rachel
and Lawrence and Ed want to project themselves as good
losers but where's the angst we've been hearing from them
about this particular race for ? months? That's what bothers me.

We'll never be able to fight the corporations paying for the
election 2012. This is no longer a democratic republic.

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Response to dschis1000 (Reply #95)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:34 PM

kestrel91316 (45,372 posts)

105. Take your bible and shove it where the lord won't go.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #105)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:39 PM

TBF (18,403 posts)

111. +1 nt

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #105)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:54 PM

SylviaD (162 posts)

127. Was that really necessary? n/t

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Response to SylviaD (Reply #127)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:00 PM

kestrel91316 (45,372 posts)

131. It sure as hell was. Did you not read that fundie troll's post??

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Response to John_in_Ohio (Reply #129)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:01 PM

kestrel91316 (45,372 posts)

134. FUCK YOU. GO AWAY.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #134)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:34 AM

rhett o rick (26,661 posts)

241. Did you notice that piece of crap got one jury vote to leave it? nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #241)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:27 PM

kestrel91316 (45,372 posts)

259. Yes, I did. Apparently trolls can get jury privileges.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:30 PM

Fozzledick (2,098 posts)

96. Fucking BULLSHIT!!

The numbers just don't add up!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

marlakay (4,212 posts)

98. Fuck fuck...

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

MADem (85,938 posts)

99. Joey Stalin and his acolyte Ahmed Ahmadinejad are in charge of counting, perhaps? nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:33 PM

harun (9,741 posts)

104. RIP Democracy

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:36 PM

Canuckistanian (42,192 posts)

106. No.

I refuse to believe this.

Either:
A.) There's been some massive fraud on a scale we can't imagine yet...

Or (and this I fear more)

B.) Whoever has the most MONEY can buy election results

Because I refuse to believe that Wisconsin voters, when given ALL the information possible, could do this.

No.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #106)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

backpages (5 posts)

141. I think the way the demonstrations were portrayed, by the media,

turned a lot of people off to the recall effort. If the unions had just laid low and worked the recall as a regular election, they might have succeeded.

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Response to backpages (Reply #141)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:09 PM

Rosa Luxemburg (21,986 posts)

151. The media is at it again

we must do something about the media

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Response to backpages (Reply #141)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:38 PM

dgl (1 post)

181. Reports of union activists in Michigan

bringing in busloads of voters spurred the GOP voters to fight back.

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Response to dgl (Reply #181)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:42 PM

Canuckistanian (42,192 posts)

184. That makes no sense, mr. 1-post

At the LAST MINUTE, they organized a GOP GOTV effort because they saw some buses?

Please.

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Response to dgl (Reply #181)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:47 PM

Bjorn Against (8,202 posts)

186. Fight back against something that never happened?

Can you point me to a single piece of solid evidence that even one out of state person voted tonight? And no a report from Rush Limbaugh is not evidence of anything.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #186)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:08 AM

Canuckistanian (42,192 posts)

247. I never said anything about out-of-state voters

And it was the poster I responded to that was trying to make a point that the sight of buses made pro-Walker people angry enough to vote.

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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #247)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:12 PM

Bjorn Against (8,202 posts)

267. I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the person who claimed they were busing people in

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Response to backpages (Reply #141)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:40 PM

Canuckistanian (42,192 posts)

182. The unions' fault?

Um, wasn't Walker's attack on the unions what started all this? In a state that pioneered union rights?

Why should the unions "lay low" after being devastated?

I thought Americans admired the underdog FIGHTING BACK.

No. Something else is going on here.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:36 PM

iemitsu (1,783 posts)

107. how can this be?

it is hard to believe.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:37 PM

Tx4obama (28,788 posts)

108. Paper ballots should be used in ALL elections !!! n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #108)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:53 AM

sunnystarr (1,955 posts)

232. They did use paper ballots

Last edited Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:02 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

But they're run through a tabulator. It's a simple matter then of flipping the results of the two candidates. This has been done before. I'm not saying it's what happened yesterday since it's also possible that the majority of voters don't know the issues and were bought by the continuous ads running all year. Citizens United or election fraud? That is the question.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:38 PM

FBaggins (11,601 posts)

109. Pure poetry

You have a knack for efficiency of language Skinner.

Sucks that it can't be put to better use this evening.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:39 PM

Tx4obama (28,788 posts)

110. Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Walker yet, citing ongoing voting

Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Walker yet, citing ongoing voting

Tom Barrett campaign says it won't concede Wisconsin recall race to Scott Walker yet, citing ongoing voting - @AP http://apne.ws/KDzBCW

http://twitter.com/breakingpol/status/210197782726848515

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:40 PM

Odin2005 (48,255 posts)

115. And the DLC idiots in control of the DNC just sat by twiddling thier thumbs.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:43 PM

Amerigo Vespucci (30,695 posts)

116. The results were less surprising...

...after watching a few of the "polling place interviews" on cable news today.

There were a few "Wisconsinites" who expressed pretty sharp anti-union sentiments, who were saying that Walker did "what he had to, for the state."

It just drives home the "red state / blue state" frames of mind. You would have thought that the "divide and conquer" video would have been the smoking gun, the thing that tipped the scales in favor of Walker's ass being thrown out of office.

I live in California, grew up in Massachusetts, and other than that, have spent no time in between other than moving here in a cross-country drive as a teen. I can't even pretend to understand Wisconsin, and the sad part is that there are some voters in Wisconsin tonight who can't either.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #116)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM

sweetloukillbot (691 posts)

156. Midwestern moderate Dems are a sometimes contradictory breed...

My in-laws in Iowa hate illegals for taking their jobs and they think gays are an abomination before God - and they are staunch Democrats who voted for Obama and will again in November. I've run into others who hate the unions for their outrageous salaries and Cadillac insurance plans and also vote straight Democratic. And they're all members of the NRA who hate gun control laws.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #116)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:48 PM

HangOnKids (2,486 posts)

187. All The KOCH $$$$ Didn't Just Go Into Ads/Campaigning

I believe R voters were paid as well.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:43 PM

shcrane71 (1,706 posts)

117. Fuck it. Kick.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 PM

Melissa G (9,511 posts)

118. Fucking Bullshit

and I don't believe it!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 PM

lunatica (28,840 posts)

119. That's what money gets you

3 times more lying drowns out the truth

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:46 PM

pink-o (3,680 posts)

120. The only thing that will make me feel better

Is an indictment. But in a perfect world, Bush, Cheney, rummy and Rove would be imprisoned for life in Leavenworth, so I'm not holding my breath.

So sorry, Wisconsin! As one who survived a recall where the other side used dirty tricks and out of state corporate money only to foist an unfit moron on us, I totally sympathize

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:46 PM

RiffRandell (2,964 posts)

121. So heartbreaking.

I am so sorry to all of the members of DU and Wisconsin residents who put in so much time and effort to get that fucker recalled. Also, to everyone who has and will suffer from his horrific agenda.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

citizen blues (169 posts)

122. BULLSHIT!!!!

I'm calling bullshit on the results. For there to be a clean Republican sweep with the type of turn out Wisconsin has had. There's no way. All that money and robo-calling and all the other dirty tricks, I think we know who the FRAUDSTERS are.

Wonder just how big the fucking red shift is gonna be?

Good for Barrett for not conceding!!!!!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

crunch60 (1,412 posts)

123. This site giving updates every minute. It ain't over yet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/06/wisconsin-recall-election-results-live

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

pinto (97,891 posts)

124. Citizens United

FUCK.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:51 PM

caseymoz (5,168 posts)

125. Definitely not the end I wrote.

I say it's not the end. Does Wisconsin let us bring him up for another recall? Spend more of the Kochs' money? Bring it into the Wisconsin economy?

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:54 PM

yoyossarian (1,007 posts)

126. Nah, that ain't FUCK...

That's BULLSHIT.
I wonder if they're using those "smart" voting machines from Diebold. They're so smart, if you vote for the wrong candidate, they just switch it over for ya!
Bullshit bullshit BULLSHIT!
GodDAMN!!!!!!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:55 PM

SylviaD (162 posts)

128. What has happened?

I can't really process this right now. I'm closing my computer and going to bed early. Something is wrong with the world, this is like a bad movie.

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Response to SylviaD (Reply #128)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:48 PM

calimary (30,556 posts)

188. I know. I keep wondering - WHY, Wisconsin? You LIKE this? You approve of walker?

Seriously? You support what he's done? You're okay with this ruthless agenda of his? Really?????

I can't believe this shit is okay with so many of you.

I actually turned the TV off. Couldn't watch or listen, or even have it on in the background while I'm doing something else. Hopefully we can put on a marathon of "Star Trek" DVDs tonight...

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:59 PM

shcrane71 (1,706 posts)

130. Election was rigged.

This is bullshit. 50/50 going into it, yet Walker wins by landslide with unprecedented voter turn-out? Voter turn-out ALWAYS helps Dems. It's bullshit.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:01 PM

totodeinhere (6,588 posts)

133. It's a sad day that's for sure. But this should make us all the more determined to

work our butts off to make sure that something like this doesn't happen in November as well. I'm sick and tired of losing elections like this. 2010 was bad enough and now this. Excuse me while I go and throw up.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:03 PM

PeaceNikki (19,211 posts)

136. I give up. They've broken me.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #136)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

hue (2,539 posts)

148. I'm sooo sorry---You've worked so hard!! This must be rigged!!

I don't know what to say to console You!! Walker will be in prison some day Nikki!!!

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #136)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:09 PM

think (2,254 posts)

152. Thank you for all you do. I respect and applaud all your efforts.

We don''t always agree but my respect is huge.

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #136)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:13 PM

pacalo (20,646 posts)

160. Here's a hug...

I'm drinking wine tonight. This is very disappointing. I'm still very proud of Wisconsinites!

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:03 PM

hue (2,539 posts)

137. WTF??? I'm checking out of reality....

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:03 PM

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (6,600 posts)

138. Gap is closing

56% to 43.4%. Probably not enough however.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #138)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

stuart68 (561 posts)

144. Uh, yeah - it's getting real close...

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:05 PM

proud patriot (99,659 posts)

142. it was called too quickly I smell a rat

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

12ZTR (63 posts)

145. Options

It doesn't matter if Barrett wins, the Dems, liberals & progressives have absolute power.
Make a list of Rep businesses & Rep donors. Do not spend any money in any of these establishments. Spend your money in DEM,LIB & PROG businesses. Get into their wallets & purses & the REPs will start to pay attention.Show the KOCHS the power of money.This needs to be done whether BARRETT wins or loses.

As for family members who vote REP, turn George Bush on their asses.

"Your either with us or against us."

I,ve been doing this for quit a while

If one is not willing to do something this simple, then they might think about sitting down & shutting up.

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Response to 12ZTR (Reply #145)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:11 AM

DiverDave (3,685 posts)

228. +1000000, and welcome aboard, wish it was a happier place for you

Well, welcome anyway.
Dave

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:07 PM

williesgirl (3,487 posts)

149. Exactly what I said when I heard

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:10 PM

SparkyOR (81 posts)

153. Fuck indeed, I'm going to vote Republican from now on...

Let's all just throw everything into one end of the pool and crash the system sooner rather than later. Maybe then all the dumbsh**s getting their social programs ended, their infrastructure ignored, their kids uneducated, maybe then... they'll finally realize that the 1% didn't care about them, they just wanted to suck em in with flag waving and deficit reduction bullshit. I'm angry

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Response to SparkyOR (Reply #153)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:21 PM

Jigs (15 posts)

167. Nope

You are not angry... Just stupid.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:12 PM

Douglas Carpenter (15,128 posts)

158. this is indeed sad and depressing. Sometimes evil prevails especially when evil has a lot more money

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:16 PM

blkmusclmachine (2,843 posts)

162. Tonight in WI, 1 + 1 = 11

No way those numbers are right. No way.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:18 PM

Mkap (171 posts)

163. Koch Bros and Rove bought the election

This is not what democracy looks like

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:25 PM

ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)

171. Youbetcha they did. And this was just a beta

for what they plan to do nationally from now on. 2000 was the alpha version. No one stopped them then, so they went to the next level. That's what we've seen since and tonight in Wisconsin.

This, and Michigan with their "financial managers". It's all beta testing. If they get away with it and thus far they have, it's coming to the whole country. Count on it.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:19 PM

Beringia (301 posts)

164. ditto

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:21 PM

WestWisconsinDem (127 posts)

168. I am embarrassed to be a Badger.

For the first time in my 48 years, 47 of which have been spent in this formerly great state, I am truly ashamed of this place I'm from.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:22 PM

PufPuf23 (3,585 posts)

169. 11.11pm: Milwaukee mayor and Democratic candidate Tom Barrett is now making his concession speech

11.11pm: Milwaukee mayor and Democratic candidate Tom Barrett is now making his concession speech: "I just got off the phone with Governor Walker and congratulated him on his victory," he says, to scattered boos from the crowd.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/06/wisconsin-recall-election-results-live

Fucking unbelievable and unacceptable.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:23 PM

ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)

170. Exactly.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:28 PM

gateley (61,882 posts)

173. I know. Fuck. nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:28 PM

lonestarnot (71,133 posts)

174. Roger that.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:30 PM

Flatulo (3,957 posts)

176. I would say that 30 years of union bashing

has had the desired effect.

Most people just believe that unions are bad.

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #176)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:45 PM

TBF (18,403 posts)

185. Now they will find out what it's like without them -

very sad.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:31 PM

Zorra (18,794 posts)

177. Doublefuck nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:35 PM

Initech (38,828 posts)

179. I almost threw up when I saw the headline.

God fucking damn it. Fuck the teabaggers.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:36 PM

babylonsister (144,154 posts)

180. That's all you have to say? Yea, I hear you. nt

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:41 PM

blackspade (2,434 posts)

183. FUCK indeed.

I didn't think that there were that many fools in WI.

I'm just disgusted.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:49 PM

happerbolic (140 posts)

189. State Precinct Graphic interactive by PBS

Last edited Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:17 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/other_votes.html

damn, and just called my mah today to hear 'but the national news had said he did such a wonderful job balancing the state's budget'...

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/may/31/tom-barrett/barrett-says-walker-used-credit-card-approach-bala/

really odd and disappointing to see on the fence or disconcerned individuals glaze over when you tell them anything contradictory to what they hear on their vaunted news networks. I try to explain over and over again that now days, like a malignancy one may have, seek out other advice and weigh out.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:49 PM

Plucketeer (6,269 posts)

190. Dear Corporate "citizens"

There's other continents that would welcome your dynasty with glee - GO there.

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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:56 PM

taught_me_patience (3,857 posts)

192. You win some and lose some

but losing this big really hurts. Unions for state employees will be dismantled state by state now.

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Response to taught_me_patience (Reply #192)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:19 AM

ilikeitthatway (131 posts)

195. How would unions be dismantled state by state?

All over this recall? Are you alluding to the fact that Big Business can buy seats for Repugs and thus get them to union bust?

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:12 AM

DreamsOfEquality (7 posts)

193. we're scrooooowed.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:15 AM

YOHABLO (444 posts)

194. I Just Don't Get It

Wisconsin use to be such a liberal state .. what happened? It's all very depressing that we can't over-throw these Republican Governors .. Perhaps if he is indicted on corruption charges .. Dems have their work cut out for them. But it is disturbing that so many people in that State and others vote against their own best interests .. are they that stupid? I guess so. I think I'm moving to another country.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:24 AM

turtlerescue1 (1,013 posts)

196. Yawn, oh good, tempers flare and

disappointment reigns.

You would have loved those sixties! Don't look at the losses. Look at what is needed to win the next battle.

Don't give up on poetic justice either. When Reagan was King in the land of Calafia, he closed the State Mental Hospitals, two years later I started working in locked psych. Learned the FIRST persons kicked out on the street were what we then called the Mentally Retarded/IQ functioning level. I couldn't believe it. "The least among us"!
I still am amazed to this day Ronny was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

Seven times the $upport-ya think someone wants $omething in in return?

I've got to go, have to tear my sackcloth in grief. And wouldn't it figure, its in pretty good shape?

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:29 AM

Kali (33,760 posts)

197. goddammit

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:31 AM

Phlem (1,325 posts)

198. We don't get fooled again! No!

oh wait......

-p

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:35 AM

Bozita (26,949 posts)

199. Money trumps all else! ... That's the moral of this WI fable. Money trumps EVERYTHING!

Thanks, SCOTUS.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:43 AM

Loudly (1,177 posts)

200. The wheel needs to turn just a little more.

And some reaping from what's been sown needs to happen.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:43 AM

snot (8,035 posts)

201. Exit polls have been off by increasing margins since 2000 or before,

despite efforts to "correct" them.

I hope folks in the Elections Group look into this (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1091).

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:12 AM

gkhouston (21,642 posts)

209. Exit polls were pretty good predictors in the days before election equipment

was easily accessible via the internet...

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:06 AM

snot (8,035 posts)

250. Exactly!

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:50 AM

Smilo (1,885 posts)

202. I really thought we had a chance

but I guess this really does show America has been bought and the morons that just sit and watch tv and never bother to get off their arses and find out the truth don't realize what they have just done.

Money + fear + lies = GOPT campaigning and it's only going to get worse. So much for caring for each other and ensuring that we remain a democracy - what has happened to America?

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:51 AM

vietnam_war_vet (74 posts)

203. I couldn't have said it any better. United v. Citizens was the death knell of our democracy. :-(

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:53 AM

donheld (21,132 posts)

205. Wake up and smell the Fascism.

I'm sure you smelled it before, but tonight it's insanely strong.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:17 AM

Phlem (1,325 posts)

211. Nooooooooooooooooo!

shit.

-p

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:06 AM

alittlelark (14,800 posts)

207. I threw up in my mouth a little... but then said WTF

Seriously. I have possibly not taken the right pill.

Cuz this CitizensUnitedStates preached it.............................

Throw me in the dungeon and throw away the key.....

\Calling
BULLLSHIT.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:07 AM

PatrynXX (2,557 posts)

208. no real surprises but...

the senate thing is having me like unable to sleep , get with it Racine....

NBC did slip up by declaring they are owned by the Koch Brothers but other than that. I would have been surprised if he lost. He knows how to cheat, he had the money now we have a talking point. WI took one to the gut, so now we can say how the Koch Brothers can buy an election. Which is why I really didn't want Obama in the state. Didn't want Clinton in either but couldn't be helped.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:15 AM

solarman350 (136 posts)

210. gov snot locker will look good in orange...

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:22 AM

Aerows (13,835 posts)

212. You got the Democracy

That Republicans paid for via Citizens United.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:36 AM

Vanje (8,923 posts)

214. I . do. not. understand. what . happened. nt

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:08 AM

carlos3k (28 posts)

215. Its all in the game, unfortunately.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/barrett-campaign-sounds-warning-on-vote-suppression-calls

I'm not whining... but I guess its all in the game these days.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:43 AM

The Traveler (5,261 posts)

221. Good night, troll

The backlash cometh. Conservatives really need to review "A Tale of Two Cities". You are working hard to re-create the conditions that make that kind of horror likely again. Fools.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:12 AM

lillypaddle (3,093 posts)

224. Yep, pretty depressing

I know this feeling. I've had it before.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:53 AM

abelenkpe (7,114 posts)

226. Bummer

Ayn Rand selfishness wins the day.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:55 AM

DLevine (385 posts)

227. What you said times a million. n/t

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:25 AM

a la izquierda (7,503 posts)

229. I am not violent, but almost threw a beer

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At my TV screen.

And then I burst into tears.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:46 AM

JNelson6563 (24,765 posts)

230. Brevity is the soul of wit.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:02 AM

rrHeretic (52 posts)

231. One word said it all!

Couldn't have voiced it any better - thanks.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:02 AM

Dawgs (10,755 posts)

235. Really? There is no way anyone, especially a political junkie, should be surprised by the result.

I'm shocked that anyone on our side thought Walker was going to lose.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:15 AM

1000 Words (44 posts)

237. 19

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:04 AM

shcrane71 (1,706 posts)

252. Thanks for Goddammit. May I request Asshat as your next word?

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:15 AM

barbtries (15,010 posts)

238. it's the next morning, i'm feeling quite sad.

do you think that justice just runs out til there isn't anymore?

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:59 AM

CJCRANE (13,327 posts)

243. It's both.

"It's not a democracy" is a RW saying which explains why they're comfortable with vote rigging.

BTW "republic" just means a country that's not ruled by a monarch. China is a republic, for example.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:28 AM

Lasher (20,466 posts)

253. In other words, kinggrain was just another mindless troll

reciting what he's been told to memorize.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:00 AM

daaron (763 posts)

244. Ayup. nt

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:01 AM

Hubert Flottz (36,718 posts)

245. FUCKED!

The cheese is not the only stinking thing in Wisconsin.

And FUCK is an understatement. I'll bet the filthy five on the SCOTUS are happy with their work. They have brought down democracy in the USA. By the corporation and for the corporation.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:36 AM

shireen (7,469 posts)

251. i could not watch MSNBC last night

I got home from volunteering at an an exhilarating public event on the Venus solar transit to this news. I could not bear to watch the news last night. Now it's morning, and i want to know wtf happened. Not rantings from upset people, but actual analysis. I'm sure some people will post about it today. We need to know what voters were thinking. Calling them idiots is not helpful. They had a reason for their votes and if we want to make further progress, not only in WI but across the country, we need to understand what they were thinking.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:47 PM

Mrs.Independent (3 posts)

269. Because Barrett was a terrible choice to represent Dems

He came across as a guy without a plan and a whiner. If he just once, especially during the debates, would have spoken about what he would have done differently in specifics, maybe more Independent voters like me would have voted for him. Walker has a plan Barrett doesn't and he's not doing anything for the city of Milwaukee but running it into the ground. Doyle needs to take part of that blame too.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:08 PM

FiveGoodMen (13,235 posts)

255. I couldn't have said it better.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:25 PM

PatrynXX (2,557 posts)

258. Fuck turned into Fuck Yeah. Go WI Senate :)

thanks to Racine...

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:29 PM

meti57b (3,161 posts)

260. Well-said!!

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:23 PM

Horse with no Name (30,594 posts)

262. Well said! I kind of feel a new kind of kinship to you

I thought I was one of the few that tends to use extraordinarily foul language to make my point.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:05 PM

TahitiNut (71,568 posts)

264. "Never strike a king unless you are sure you shall kill him." (Emerson)

We're in for it now.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:57 PM

Clear Blue Sky (2,148 posts)

266. Where was the Pres?

I would have like to see the Pres up in Wisconsin pushing this election. Our union brothers and sisters spent a lot of blood, sweat, tears and $$ trying to defeat Walker. Where was the President?

Sorry but a Tweet a day before the election is a weak effort...

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:38 PM

Honeycombe8 (18,006 posts)

268. Staying out of state government business, is where he was, and rightly so.

It is not the business of a sitting President, who serves the NATION and is part of the federal govt., to interfere with STATE government or elections. It is not his business, is inappropriate, is unethical, and is just an all around bad idea. It is NONE of a President's busness what a state does within its own government, which is what a recall is.

That's why Bush didn't interfere with the California David recall.

Obama did all he could do, which was to endorse the Democrat. Then he went about the business he was elected to do: run the nation.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:11 PM

Leopolds Ghost (12,376 posts)

271. When the air seems to go out of Occupy efforts (that began in Wisconsin), it is a warning sign

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You could see coming.

It is a symptom of a larger problem.

(Not to suggest the Occupy movement is dying, I certainly hope not. I want to remain involved. But it is part of the same momentum that motivated the recall, so lack of momentum for one = lack of momentum for the other -- in the popular consciousness.)

I'd love to see a reversal of the trend, but it is a disturbing trend.

Statistics matter, and in this age of mass media, people operate increasingly as a homogeneous, sheep-like herd. You can tell which way the wind is blowing long before the storm hits.

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:01 PM

red dog 1 (708 posts)

272. K & R!! + John Nichols on Walker

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From: Democracy Now.org
June 6, 2012

Amy Goodman:
"John Nichols, what about the Democratic National Committee, President Obama not going to Wisconsin, the DNC not putting in the kind of money that people were calling for, although Walker had tens of millions of dollars poured into his campaign from outside the state?"

John Nichols:
"Absolutely. It was a stark contrast. What you see is a Republican Party that is activist and engaged, not just at the national level, but down into the state and local levels. The Republican National Committee chairman, Reince Priebus, who is a Wisconsinite and who's actually a member of the law firm that is representing Governor Walker in many of his current legal troubles, said from the start of the race that the Republicans were, "all in" this contest, meaning that they would be there for whatever was necessary. The Republican Governors Association began attacking Democrat Tom Barrett before he had announced his candidacy. So it was just an overwhelming level of Republican engagement.

In contrast to that, the Democratic National Committee really was in a bit of a wrangle with state Democrats about whether they would give $500,000 for some get-out-the-vote efforts.
And President Obama meticulously avoided visiting the state and made his final contribution to the campaign, which was a tweet on Monday night.
The comparison between tens of millions of dollars and an all-in effort by the RNC and by national Republicans, and a tweet from President Obama, I think, sums it up a little painfully."

Watch/ Hear entire interview:
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/6/walker_survives_wisconsin_recall/

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Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:46 PM

Stuart G (7,662 posts)