That's it. I've cancelled all future recordings on my DVR of the Rachel Maddow Show.

[BigBearJohn]

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I won't watch another show. Bye bye. POOF!

[bkkyosemite]

1. Yes I agree.

And the rest of the MSM acts like he does not exist any longer.

[Rockyj]

171. Money = GREED

Look what its done to too ,any politicians in the Democratic Party!
YES EVEN OBAMA!

[CreekDog]

173. well Bernie was on Rachel's show tonight

so what were you agreeing with?

something that is only true in your own mind, but not in the outside world?

[GP6971]

2. Haven't seen it in a week or so

what happened?

[UTUSN]

3. I guess I'll have to watch to find out. n/t

[SmittynMo]

7. Don't waste your time

They were told weeks ago, no more Bernie. So they do not pass on ANY opportunity to slam him.

It's just more of the 1% buying the media. The establishment has spoken. Hell, we should be use to this treatment by now.

[LiberalFighter]

107. No more Bernie?

Are you sure you are watching her? Just saw a bit at the end about Sanders going after automatic delegates to switch.

[CreekDog]

174. Bernie was on Rachel's show tonight

i'll have to make a note of the fact that you post false things.

[Cleita]

4. I used to get up at six in the morning to listen to her on AAR.

Back then not only was she informative, smart and funny but she was cool. She isn't anymore.

[rusty quoin]

73. I use to do that too.

Those AAR days...she was reduced to that 6AM slot. She had been my favorite.

The same with Sam Seder who was reduced to a Sunday afternoon slot.

The AAR days were so important to me then. They were a raft in an ocean of madness.

[Cleita]

79. Yes.

[Yallow]

88. Franken And Malloy Too

Oh but for the good old days.

[rusty quoin]

89. I subscribe to Sam's podcast.

Randi Rhodes is working on doing one of her own. I gave money to the start up, and it will happen soon.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

115. Malloy, Seder, Franken, Schultz, Maddow, Rhodes--there were lots of great people on Air America.

[rusty quoin]

118. And to us, it was always about the hosts, not the business.

The hosts did not fail.

[yuiyoshida]

150. loved Air America

its too bad it folded.

[elljay]

114. Morning Sedition

Maron has gone on to a great career, but this show was the funniest radio I've ever heard. News reports from Planet Bush, Sammy the Stem Cell, Rapture Watch. I may never laugh at obituaries again....


http://www.morningseditionists.com/msarchive/

[Lil Missy]

5. She must be talking reality again. Now I'll have to watch it. n/t

[SFnomad]

11. I had the same thought. n/t

[TM99]

12. I always get a chuckle

out of hearing Clinton supporters calling propaganda 'reality'.

[mr clean]

26. +1

[SFnomad]

74. When it comes to propaganda ...

you guys would certainly know a lot about that. You have all the right wing talking points down when it comes to Clinton.

[7962]

82. Thats the only answer they ever have; "RW talking point!!"

Like a bunch of parrots. I get it EVERY time i say anything critical of her

[TM99]

87. I find it ironic

as New Dems are what we used to call right wing 40 years ago!!

[7962]

122. And then you get a hide for a comment that didnt violate the TOS

It wasnt rude, insulting, over-the-top, etc.
But still gets hidden
I imagine mine was also alerted on but somehow survived

[mariawr]

135. Well that hidden was telling the truth. nt

[hibbing]

99. Just an FYI

Person you are responding to as a newbie has been a member 4 years longer than you. A low post count does not always indicate a newbie, have fun.


Peace

[TM99]

101. I have been around since 2001.

I had an another account under a different email address and rarely if ever posted.

I have also notice lots of low count posters with account from 2008 that have woken up like zombies. Coincidence?

[hibbing]

103. Well okay then

Like I said, have fun.


Peace

[ahimsa]

104. Newbies rock!

[Scurrilous]

151. ...

[mucifer]

83. When her foreign policy is described as similar to neocons

and much further to the right than President Obama, I get worried:

https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview/democratic-foreign-policy-in-the-2016-presidential-race/2f25961d-d547-404b-9d4c-6b6c74a0817d

Rachel used to give a damn. Hell, she was a member of Act Up when she was young.

[Jopin Klobe]

86. I'ts amazing ...

... what Money and Access do ...

... when they're tied together ...

[tokenlib]

84. When "right wing taking points" about Hillary end up true....

..it does get rather embarrassing. With the Clintons, follow the money and you will find the truth.

[Cleita]

31. MSNBComcast reality.

Knock yourself out.

[jillan]

69. This!

[brush]

33. IMO she sold out

Why is she still on that network once it ditched all the progressive on-air hosts, shifted hard to the rignt and went nearly 24/7 Trump?

[paulkienitz]

70. Well, I bet her show is the most popular one they've got left

[brush]

76. All the more reason for her to leave. With her credentials she'd quickly land on her feet.

Guess they must have sweetened her deal to get her to stay — as if she isn't already banking huge checks and should have a large cushion until another opportunity comes along.

What happened to her progressive principles to just sit there and give neo-fascist Trump a platform for the last several month?

[agracie]

93. Used to watch her faithfully. Now I can't tolerate M$NBC . They are shameless. nt

[Skittles]

36. painful when they refuse to play along

[Silver_Witch]

100. Why do Clinton people get to come here...

but we are all banned from their posts?

[Lil Missy]

106. That's only in the Hillary Group, not General Discussion.

[Tarheel_Dem]

110. ^^^ THIS ^^^

[La Lioness Priyanka]

132. +1 for a while there she was trying her best to give bernie free air time

like when she aired his rebuttal to trump + extra few minutes of his stump speech for no apparent reason.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. i havent had msnbc on for several days

I didn't realize how far gone they were until recently. Not missing it. Had cnn on for a few last night then turned it off too.
Had to go to the internet for bernies speech.

[Jenny_92808]

14. I stopped watching MSNBC too

[merrifield]

19. Me too.

[Jenny_92808]

22. I have started watching

RT TV with Thom Hartmann and other progressive voices.

[MADem]

38. Because Putin Approved Television is so much better....?

http://gawker.com/im-for-the-truth-another-rt-reporter-publicly-quits-1607127867

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/sara-firth-resigns-russia-today-lies-anchor_n_5598815.html


The creator of RT recently ended up dead in DC in a Dupont Circle hotel. RT said he died of a heart attack. Turned out he was beaten to death.

What's up with that?

[Pharaoh]

51. well they carry Thom Hartmann and Ed schultz

so they are giving us a platform that MSM denies us.

So they are useful. Like everything, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater........

[LittleGirl]

102. +1 n/t

[elmac]

94. I watch RT on my Roku

and DW on the free Nowhere TV Roku app.

[tokenlib]

85. Ventura,Stone and Wallace are exceptional..n/t

[KoKo]

157. ....!

Love WTH's..

[elmac]

92. I canceled cable TV this weekend

just watch my local air TV, watch big ed on RT and listen to Thom Hartman during the day.

[JEB]

8. Shoot the damn TV. eom

[rhett o rick]

9. Please send her a message on MSNBC. I did and said goodbye. I loved her on Air America.

But when she went to the Corp-Media I knew it would be the test. She sold us out.

[BigBearJohn]

13. I did.

[Jenny_92808]

18. Thanks for the suggestion.

I just now did the same.

I hope others join us and send MSNBC a few choice words.

http://www.msnbc.com/contact

[litlbilly]

10. she is now full blown part of the Hillary machine. i stopped watching her long ago

[corbettkroehler]

15. That Was Me Last Week

How did a Rhodes scholar betray the journalistic profession so blatantly? I fully expected that she'd have enough integrity to stare down any bosses who ordered her to shill for HRC. I was dead wrong. Such a shame! She was my favorite!

[appalachiablue]

39. Maybe what a salary of a few million does-

[mucifer]

90. She used to be an in the streets activist.

[shenmue]

111. Under the bus with her!

[Agnosticsherbet]

16. I watched it today. It was refreshing, there was practically no mention of Trump.

Tomorrow, I intend to leave it on and note how many minutes MSNBC gives to Trump coverage.
We may have seen a change in their broadcast pattern.
Trump 24/7 drove me away for a while. I went back to see how the cover Yesterday's election.

I think it is odd. I see no reason to toss people I respect under the buss because they don't agree with me.
Opinion may vary.

[babylonsister]

17. You go! I like her. nt

[ViseGrip]

20. cut the cord, and as war is uncomfortable the television is actually better!.

Just re-adjust. Cut the cord. That is the only way to hurt them. I have ads now on my Roku for HBO for 20.00 a month. You had to have a 100.00 a month basic cable account to then purchase HBO. Such shit. Now I see ESPN selling their channel....on and on. Start streaming and get an HD antenna for regular broadcast TV.

[Fuddnik]

25. Just did that. Got an antenna and a Roku.

Why pay $180 a month to watch about 4 channels. And on Roku, I can get Amy Goodman and Thom Hartman. And I can add HBO and Showtime for 1/4 of what I was paying.

[Jim Beard]

48. I am comming closer to doing the same.

I can baby step down and still get the local channels for $33 a month and let Roku do the rest.

[Politicalboi]

58. We have the same

Also discovered channel pear that allows you to add channels to your Roku. 24/7 south park or simpson's and other shows. Along with MSNBC when the server is good. All for free. I used to watch a lot of MSNBC but now I watch South Park. Much better for my blood pressure. We pay $50.00 for internet from a local company and $7.99 for Netflix.

[Fuddnik]

21. I stopped watching her several years ago.

I used to watch her every night, and loved it. I quit watching when she started getting that Chris Mathews tingly feeling, running down her leg for everything Obama did.

In fact, Monday, I chucked cable completely. I had to pay too much money to watch this shit.

[MissDeeds]

46. I stopped watching her a few years ago too

and for the same reasons you mention. I did see her for a couple minutes while channel surfing and thought she seemed giddy, giggly, goofy and really over the top. Not sure what that was all about. Perhaps Tweety's obnoxious mannerisms are rubbing off on her.

[PSPS]

23. This belongs in in GD-P

[BigBearJohn]

34. Why? All I said was I am cancelling Rachel in my DVR. I did not say why.

[muriel_volestrangler]

136. To be honest, it belongs in your head.

Why should we care what you record? It doesn't involve anything important enough for you to bother to tell us why. I'm not aware that you've been annoying us with too many posts about her show, so it will make no difference to us whether you watch it or not.

[valerief]

142. WTF? Why should WE care about what YOU feel about what anyone DVRs?

What would possess you post such a comment? Oh, yeah, why anyone posts anything here. But only YOUR opinion matters, I guess.

[muriel_volestrangler]

144. Because I can explain why I think and say as I do

whereas BigBearJohn just blurts out his DVR schedule without giving any clues why he does what he does, or why we should care. My advice makes for a more interesting DU; his doesn't. He didn't actually give an 'opinion'.

[valerief]

145. I'm going to do a mur post.

I don't care.

[BigBearJohn]

170. Gee, and 168 people responded to the post. Go figure. Nice that some people can read between the

lines.

[valerief]

137. No. GDP is ONLY for Democratic primary candidates. If you post anything about a GOP

primary candidate there, the post gets locked. I'm sure the same rule holds for non-Democratic candidate TV hosts.

I was locked for posting in GDP about an asshole GOP candidate during one of their asshole GOP debates.

[trueblue2007]

24. oh gee ...... alert the media

kinda for me, i don't care what you watch.

[Fuddnik]

29. You must care enough to comment on it.

[valerief]

143. So why bother posting about it? Why should we care about you don't care about?

I don't understand the point of your post.

[Land of Enchantment]

27. Yeppers. We quit watching MSNBC about a month ago. Pathetic excuse for journalists. nt

[SusanCalvin]

28. I've been disillusioned for some time.

Might I ask for a synopsis of what happened tonight?

[riversedge]

35. Probably, My impression was that she did not think it a good idea..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511510448

[SusanCalvin]

49. Got it.

Whoever in his campaign decided to talk about flipping superdelegates is an idiot.

I still am reluctantly backing away from Rachel, though.

[grasswire]

56. the NBC reporter covering the Sanders campaign...

...brought that up last night. She was sitting in on their conversation post mortem. I have forgotten her name.

[NurseJackie]

30. Was she being realistic again? Again?!

Will she ever learn?

[BainsBane]

32. Let me guess?

Math.

[riversedge]

41. welcome back and see post 25

[riversedge]

42. oops. I meant # 35

[ALBliberal]

37. Loved her for years remember her and Liz Winstead (sp?) on AAR? And

Randi Rhodes always brought them in to her show giving them air time. And Keith Olbermann gave Rachel her start at MSNBC as I recall. I preached to my millennial kids how Rachel was IT. The go to girl in pure journalism. My middle daughter had her pod cast! Just a let down. Keith is without a job Randi is somewhere in S. America. But they never gave up their convictions. Honestly hard to listen to Stephanie Miller anymore. Oh and Ed out on RT! Miss him! Oh well maybe there will be a realignment in media.

[Babel_17]

40. Remember Phil Donahue? That network don't play

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donahue_%282002_TV_series%29

Wow, links have died but I found this.

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-February/005865.html

While "Donahue" does badly trail both O'Reilly and CNN's Connie Chung in the ratings, those numbers have improved in recent weeks. So much so that the program is the top-rated show on MSNBC, beating even the highly promoted "Hardball With Chris Matthews."

Although Donahue didn't know it at the time, his fate was sealed a number of weeks ago after NBC News executives received the results of a study commissioned to provide guidance on the future of the news channel.

That report--shared with me by an NBC news insider--gives an excruciatingly painful assessment of the channel and its programming. Some of recommendations, such as dropping the "America's News Channel," have already been implemented. But the harshest criticism was leveled at Donahue, whom the authors of the study described as "a tired, left-wing liberal out of touch with the current marketplace."

The study went on to claim that Donahue presented a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war......He seems to delight in presenting guests who are anti-war, anti-Bush and skeptical of the administration's motives." The report went on to outline a possible nightmare scenario where the show becomes "a home for the liberal antiwar agenda at the same time that our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity."

A source close to Donahue claims that while he wasn't aware of the specific study, the tone and outcome aren't surprising.

"It's not a coincidence that this decision comes the same week that MSNBC announces its hired Dick Armey as a commentator and has both Jesse Ventura and Michael Savage joining the network as hosts. They're scared, and they decided to take the coward's road and slant towards the conservative crowd that watch Fox News."

[StandingInLeftField]

133. I had forgotten about the Donahue Debacle

Evidently that "guidance study" was the beginning of the end for any semblance of sanity and fairness at M$NBC.

[Babel_17]

140. They're as geared to the public's fickle appetite as any focus group polling politician

It's about profits, and pleasing the extremely wealthy bosses at the top, as well as the larger corporations that "own the news", and who have an agenda.

[PatrynXX]

43. I stopped watching her

when she went after Obama for something. that and MSNBC killed the podcast , but I still have my Bitters

[Javaman]

44. welcome to the light...

I gave her up months ago.

Listen to Democracy Now! You will be better for it.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

45. I quit watching her when she completely ignored Occupy

for a week and half, when protestors were being arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge. And she was always dismissive of them thereafter.

[BigBearJohn]

47. I love your tag line... most effective.

[SusanCalvin]

53. I had not realized that. Certainly a negative for me. nt

[Chicago1980]

50. People stomping their feet because Rachel isn't towing their narrative?

Randi Rhodes will be coming back on the radio or VIA podcast soon.

Maybe people will like to tune in there.

https://randirhodes.com

[BigBearJohn]

54. Her show used to be more balanced

[SoapBox]

65. Randi has posts on her Twitter saying...

She had a hard time voting in FL...she was told she was "purged" in 2011 but yet she voted in 2012.

How many thousands had the same in FL, NC, etc.?

https://mobile.twitter.com/randiradio/tweets

[Chicago1980]

120. Too many I'm guessing.

That's what happens in southern states.

[snowy owl]

52. CONGRATULATIONS!

You are free of corporate media. It feels good doesn't it?

[SoapBox]

55. I will not watch MSNBC ever again, nor look or listen to Maddow.

Her shilling made me want to puke...what a sell out.

...she and the channel are dead to me.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

57. I don't watch political TV at all

Not debates, not State of the Union messages, not political talk shows.

Reading about them is bad enough.

[Betty Karlson]

59. I stopped watching months ago.

Respect for holding out so long.

[oldandhappy]

60. yup. Stopped MSNBC about two weeks ago.

Today I unfriended all MSNBC from FB. MSM has a lot to answer for in the current election cycle.

[shireen]

61. i used to listen to her audio podcast every night

I erased it last week. I'm done too. And disappointed.

[Scootaloo]

62. Why would you record them?

I'm not a fan or not-fan of Rachel, I just can't imagine devoting DVR hard drive space to a nightly news segment.

[rjsquirrel]

63. Lol that will show HER!

Juvenile theatrical flouncing about won't change anything, but .... one hopes it helps dull the emptiness and pain of losing.

I shall never -- absolutely never I say-- darken your establishment's portal with my custom, good sir! Henceforth thou shalt find me at CNN!

Just lol. I'm sure Rachel will do a 45 minute interview with Bernie to get you back.

I recommend drinking instead of stewing in it online.

[NJCher]

108. Urm

If you have any reading comprehension skills whatsoever, you'll note these posters appear to be dropping MSM altogether, so they won't be frequenting the likes of CNN.

Rachel is symptomatic of what has happened since Comcast bought MSNBC. Rachel has made her choice. Other journalists have made their choice, too, and chose principle over this particular employer.

I have friends who have had to leave since the Comcast takeover. I know their stories and the callous way they were treated. It is Comcast's loss.

You trivialize. This is a far bigger issue than your post portrays.

Cher

[basselope]

64. Amazed you lasted this long.

[valerief]

66. M$NBCComcast is history to me. nt

[blue neen]

67. I'm not happy with everything MSNBC has been doing lately,

but Rachel is still A1.

[jillan]

68. What took you so long? The CEO of Comcast

Holds fundraisers for Hillary. Turn that shit off.

[BigBearJohn]

75. Guess I liked how she mixes drinks on Fridays

I missed Keith Olbermann amd she was a poor substitute.

[840high]

77. yep

[SCVDem]

71. Why DVR it you ask?

To zap the 40 minutes of commercials!

I time shift everything.

[840high]

72. Haven't watched in over a month.

[msanthrope]

80. Jeebus that bus must be yuuuge!!!!nt

[elleng]

81. Been watching cnn 8-11-ish instead,

with quick breaks back, so almost-poof.

[billhicks76]

91. Gave Up On Her A While Ago

All self interested fluff. Tried to make monotony exciting and fails. Never touches the real problems like mass incarceration. Doesn't matter what your issues are if you're in jail where you have no rights. And wiretapping illegally used by law enforcement where they lie to judges about it. And using wiretapping to leverage politicians, journalists, activists, judges, attorneys and reps...threaten them with releasing personal info or borderline criminality and you can assure they they can elicit any outcome they wish. The national security establishment is in charge so don't kid yourselves. And Hillary is their lapdog

[whathehell]

123. "Never deals.with the real problems like mass incarceration"? Dealt with 'real problem of Flint, MI

Went and held town hall there with residents and televised it

Last year she was awarded honor from NAAACP for her work on Emergency Management government takeover in Michigan

[billhicks76]

172. Maddow?

And if it's Hillary we all know she is an opportunist who disappears on the issue once the cameras are gone. Even most republicans are aghast at what happened in Flint. Saying you're courageous because you supported not poisoning the water is a real joke. A big joke. It's like saying I'm for the children. Really? We have two million people incarcerated in this country. Way more per capita than any dictatorship. How do you rationalize this? How do you pretend we are a decent country with decent leaders? Usually one measures how evil a country is by how many people are in work camps or prisons. That's the barometer we used for former communist countries. This has really opened my eyes to how he German people accepted fascism and Hitler from 1922-1945. 23 years it took those frogs to boil. We are very similar here. And two million in prison means 4 million children with broken families too. And you want me to think Hillary is some kind of hero? You have a lot of nerve I will say that.

[SMC22307]

95. 0-7 sweep, ba-by.

On Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:21 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

That's it. I've cancelled all future recordings on my DVR of the Rachel Maddow Show.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027690176

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This belongs in GD: P. This entire thread exists because Rachel called Hillary Clinton the likely Democratic Nominee in a discussion with a guest regarding the Supreme Court. She then did a segment simply talking about the Sanders campaign team talking about how they plan to win, which involves Super Delegates. She contrasted it with the campaigns previous statement on that issue.

This, apparently, has caused this member to throw a hissy fit. That's fine. That's their right. However, this belongs in GD: P.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:32 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I totally get why this was alerted on. But the OP does not explicitly mention the primary or why they are not watching Rachel any more. Clearly that is how people are taking it though, and the thread reads like a GDP thread, even if the OP does not. But this should have been a SOP alert, not that it is over the top. Even then, it would straddle the line. Seems to me ties go to the runner, or in this case the poster, so I vote to leave. But if I start seeing a lot of this sort of thing, maybe I won't be so forgiving in the future. The Admins made a concerted effort to clean up the front page of primary acrimony and we should respect that.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The "hissy fit" accusation is bullshit. LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Utter nonsense of an alert. I guess Hill's alert stalkers don't care about the new found amnesty. Still sending joke alerts like this. If this isn't GDP, send it to the hosts or a TOS alert.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter needs to get a life.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Seriously, WHO alerted on this? Fess up...

[nc4bo]

96. Jury done good! Super silly indeed. nt

[The Far Left]

97. I canceled Maddow's podcast last week. n/t

[PFunk1]

98. I still got cable but actially stopped watching MSNBC-and all MSM news in general.

their's too much other stuff on it to (for me) just ditch. Still everyone on that channel-even Chris has gone corp for a while now.

[Hoyt]

105. Not sure what she did this time, but sounds like you have difficulty dealing with truth.

[marew]

130. Wow!

And Clinton supporters wonder why Sanders and Warren supporters are so upset. If you are a Democrat and you are NOT upset about the corruption that has taken control of our party, then you are simply burying in your head in the sand so that you hear only what you want to hear.

Hillary's BFF Wasserman Schultz has sided with the GOP on payday lending. I am waiting for Hillary to come out and say if she she disagrees with her BFF Wasserman Schultz's support of payday lenders and Wasserman Schultz's tireless work to gut new rules intended to rein in predatory payday lending. Wasserman Schultz is getting tremendous flack from Democrats for siding with the GOP on this! These predatory practices need to be stopped asap. Preying on the poor is shameful to say the least. This one of the last things I thought the DNC chairman would ever support! Will Hillary support her BFF Wasserman Schultz on this or not? Long before this overtly anti-Democratic posturing by Wasserman Schultz petitions have been circulating demand she resign as DNC chair for many reasons.

Remember Hillary's gratuitous self-pitying comment about being 'dead broke"! Turns out in 1999, they bought a five-bedroom home in Chappaqua, N.Y., for $1.7 million. In December 2000, just as they were leaving the White House, they bought a seven-bedroom house near Embassy Row in Washington, D.C. The price was $2.85 million. It was, is, and always will be about her. She knew very well of the millions and millions she and Bill could and did make in speeches and numerous other activities. The "dead broke" comment, unbeknownst to her, gave us a look into her true character. She had no concept, no depth, of what that comment in just a few words revealed to us all about her and her core values.

Hillary once said she had a lot of work to do with Independents. She is blissfully unaware of what she has done to Democrats. Many are like me- having voted straight Democrat for many, many decades.

[Hoyt]

131. The ultimate arbiters -- voters -- have formally disagreed with you.

[marew]

148. Whether they did or not-

You seriously and very obviously insist on ignoring very serious issues! Typical!

BTW, what color is the sky in your world?

[Hoyt]

153. Not ignoring anything. I prefer to get something done on issues, not nothing because folks want

stuff that has no chance of passing. That's no better than the GOPers.

[marew]

154. So basically you admit you are willing to settle!

Robert Browning wrote: "A man's reach should exceed his grasp or what's a heaven for."

So we should never aspire to be better or do better! Got it! The quality of life in the US has been declining in the US for decades and that is hunky dory with you. Take the crumbs the billionaires and the corporate elite throw at you! The oligarchy reigns supreme! With an attitude like yours, nothing will change.

We who so actively seek change certainly will not get everything we want, but, I assure you, we would make more progress than people with your reasoning ever could. Any serious student of history knows that very well.

It is a good thing you were not around during revolutionary times- we'd still be under the rule of the UK!

[Hoyt]

156. If that is what it takes to move forward, you bet. If you want to not-settle, then you'll get

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nothing in today's political reality.

The irony is that had we remained under UK control -- we'd have all the stuff you want, single payer healthcare, education, a better welfare system, higher taxes. etc. Now, we are going to have to compromise to get there. I think by settling we'll get there faster than by ranting and pouting if we don't get our way.

I'm not much on the founding fathers, almost all of them were racists who'd go home, after speaking/writing of liberty and such, and rape/beat their slaves.

[marew]

158. Not a serious student of history I see.

"I'm not much on the Founding Fathers" Wow! That's an understatement! Of course not all were saints but your blanket condemnation of the majority of the Founding Fathers is beyond bizarre!

"by ranting an pouting" Really? Your projecting is really getting into lala land. No wonder you cannot comprehend the idea of serious political discourse.

You statement "The irony is that had we remained under UK control -- we'd have all the stuff you want" shows precisely how you have absolutely no knowledge of what was really going on at that time and why so many early Americans gave their lives. In your eyes they were wasting their lives! So, in your opinion, we should, without question or complaint, have tolerated what we were experiencing and simply hoped for a better day!

You have revised American history like no one I know ever has. No wonder you are in a state of perpetual confusion!

“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
― Edmund Burke

See ya!

[Hoyt]

159. Do you give the same credence to confederates fighting to preserve their heritage of slavery.

You obviously have a reading and comprehension problem. I suggest reading in chunks of information and in the context of previous posts, including your own, without pointing at each word and mouthing the words.

[marew]

163. OOPS!

You already admitted you know little about the Founding Fathers yet you profoundly defend your ignorance! And you stand by your contention that our Founding Fathers and Revolutionary War heroes were despicable human beings! How charming!

By the way, my great, great grandfather, fighting for the Union was severely wounded on the first day of the Battle of Gettysburg, 7/1/1863, and was subsequently discharged due to the extensive nature of his injuries. No one in my family ever supported the Confederacy! Talk about giant leaps! LOL!

As someone who has completed post Masters Degree level work (completed grad school on a full Fellowship at a major University with honors) published several well received articles and has written hundreds of well received diagnostic reports containing recommendations that were shared with PH.D and M.D. professionals, may I humbly suggest I am not the one with reading and comprehension problems!

If ignorance is bliss, you must be completely blissed out!

You are a hoot!

[Hoyt]

164. Yet, you defend the racist founding fathers. Even Ben Franklin owned slaves and Thomas Jefferson

was downright abusive. All that liberty and freedom bull applied to white guys trying to pad their bank account. And we haven't even gotten into what they did to Native Americans. You probably think Christopher Columbus was a saint, as well.

[marew]

165. LOL!

Get over yourself!

I never defended them. Who has SEVERE comprehension issues? I simply stated that all the Founding Fathers were not all the monsters you claim them to be- even after you admitted you knew very little about them!

Lincoln's opinion:
The founding fathers, said Lincoln, had opposed slavery. They adopted a Declaration of Independence that pronounced all men created equal. They enacted the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 banning slavery from the vast Northwest Territory. To be sure, many of the founders owned slaves. But they asserted their hostility to slavery in principle while tolerating it temporarily in practice. That was why they did not mention the words "slave" or "slavery" in the Constitution, but referred only to "persons held to service." "Thus, the thing is hid away, in the constitution," said Lincoln, "just as an afflicted man hides away a wen or a cancer, which he dares not cut out at once, lest he bleed to death; with the promise, nevertheless, that the cutting may begin at the end of a given time." The first step was to prevent the spread of this cancer, which the fathers took with the Northwest Ordinance, the prohibition of the African slave trade in 1807, and the Missouri Compromise restriction of 1820. The second was to begin a process of gradual emancipation, which the generation of the fathers had accomplished in the states north of Maryland.

I bet you think Lincoln was rotten too!

What the Founders Said About Slavery
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes/slavery.html

Read the following! I dare you!
http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=122
I am sure you won't- you would never seek out truth! You are way too comfortable in your imaginary little world!

Never let facts get in you way!

[Hoyt]

166. Yeah, they "opposed slavery" and went home and beat/raped their slaves.

Heck, the original Constitution as written by those folks didn't even consider slaves human -- hence three-fifths clause.

[AzDar]

109. I feel ya... was a fan for years. Stopped watching about 2 months ago, due to the OBVIOUS bias.

As a matter of fact, I've completely stopped watching MSM "news" altogether. Their agendas have made them irrelevant.

[SheilaT]

112. Ahhh, lucky me. I don't own a TV. No cable, no satellite hook up.

I watch what I watch on the internet. I used to watch Keith Olbermann faithfully, then he suddenly resigned. So I watched Rachel when I could. Sometimes MSNBC made it a bit tricky for those of us not on the standard system. But I watched her. About two years ago I started noticing that she was unreliable and pushing an odd agenda. It's probably been six months or more since I watched her regularly.

I really miss her, because she so often does such a good job of explicating a complex issue. But still, her -- or more likely her masters -- bias has become more and more evident.

These days I wake up every morning to Amy Goodman. She has her own sometimes odd biases, but I find it easy them out. Before and after her my local community radio station carries the BBC. I'm probably better informed than most people out there.

I also read the local newspaper, so I'm pretty up on local issues.

Back in the 1970s, another period in my life when I didn't have TV, a good friend of mine was honestly concerned that I wasn't up on the issues and events of the day. So he'd periodically quiz me, and was always astonished that I knew exactly what was going on. And this in the days before the internet. Back then I listened to NPR, and I read books. Yes, books. So I was much better informed on all sorts of things than most people.

So it is today. I listen to certain radio programs (BBC, Amy Goodman, Terry Gross, and sometimes Diane Rehm) and I read lots of books on all sorts of topics. Plus, of course, the internet. While my specific opinions can be subject to disagreement, my level of knowledge I'll hold up to anyone.

Oh, and I tend to do extremely well in Trivia contests.

[MaggieD]

113. Well it's like here (now)

You can hide her, but you can't suspend her. The rest of us still get to listen and she still gets to discuss stuff. Real world usually works that way.

[Samantha]

116. So when all those people were saying "it" would be over by March 15th

what they really meant was that the Establishment would consider Hillary Clinton the presumptive nominee, there would be no more coverage for challenger Bernie Sanders and no more debates. The General Election has started so everyone should just pretend Bernie Sanders faded away.

Is that why they didn't cover Sanders' speech Tuesday?

So the Establishment has spoken and thus Bernie's coverage has ended....

And the most amazing part is -- these people don't even try to hide it.


Sam

[Iggo]

117. Welcome.

[ecstatic]

119. Rachel reported that Sanders now needs super delegates.

I'm assuming that's why you're mad, correct? You're mad because she's reporting news?

[lamp_shade]

121. All the pissing and moaning in this thread and not one mention of what she did wrong.

Why is that?
Somebody? Anybody?

[whathehell]

124. Yeah, I was kind of wondering

about that myself.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

146. haven't heard her show from last night, but i'm guessing she saw the numbers and being trained

to interpret numbers, said something to the effect of 'there is no easy/possible path for victory for Bernie', much like the 538 folks or the vox.com folks.

[lamp_shade]

147. I think your guess is a good one. nt

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

125. If there is a reason to stop watching msnbc

it's that fucking theme song they play ALL the time like every story is some epic

earth shattering event.

She had a good story on republican delegates from the Virgin Islands last night.

[merrily]

126. I feel your pain. I reached that point a few years ago.

Her calling Hillary's "I misspoke....I meant stem cell and Alzheimer's as a refreshing apology had to have been the final straw for many others though.



Besides, she's boring, repetitive and condescending.

[marew]

127. I did the very same thing less than a week ago!

I also had her on auto record!

[joeybee12]

128. And yet another one doesn't pass the purity test and goes under the bus!

BTW, GDP

[ananda]

129. It's hard to say goodbye to that much money ..

.. supported by so much corporate power.

[randome]

134. Is it Lent already? I thought that came and went not too long ago.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[stillwaiting]

138. No other political pundit has gone from being so admired by me to being so

clearly, openly, and brazenly part of the Establishment.

I still am sad about it all really. I am still shocked by it, but I fully expect that feeling won't last too much longer. She's blatantly working for Establishment interests now.

[prairierose]

139. I quit watching MSNBC a couple of..

months ago..too much drumpf and HRC cheerleading...and almost no Bernie.

[Orrex]

141. Out of curiosity, did you watch all of the commercials on your DVR, too?

If not, then your boycott will have zero impact on Maddow or on the network.

Kudos for your decisiveness though.

[yuiyoshida]

149. MSNBC PUSHED Donald Trump more than anyone

That is not a Left Leaning organization, and it just shows that all Media, in the hands of the Corporations, are really Republican leaning. I won't watch it any longer.

[brooklynite]

152. How DARE a show not agree with my viewpoint every day!

BTW - was there a need to post this "news" with all the detail of a Donald Trump tweet?

[LanternWaste]

155. "Who will rid us of these troublesome priests...?"

John Lewis, Planned Parenthood and now Maddow.


"Who will rid us of these troublesome priests...?"

[sendero]

160. The amount of news/commentary...

.. I watch on the MSM would fit inside a norovirus. All about as complete and objective as an ambulance-chasing lawyer.

[emsimon33]

161. I have too--goes for MSNBC in general & I know many others who have also

They have become little more than a propaganda channel for Hillary and Trump!

[Elwood P Dowd]

162. Haven't turned on TrumpNBC for over a month.

Just about every Dem I know has done the same.

[LongTomH]

167. Bernie is supposed to be on Rachel Maddow's show tonight: 8:00 CDT / 9:00 EDT

Just found out. No link yet!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

168. Fine, I'll record tonight's show, THEN cancel!!!11!!

No, I'll probably keep recording. What else would I watch? Hannity?

[BigBearJohn]

169. Maybe she read this thread on DU (lol)