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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:17 PM Jun 2012

I Do Not Believe In Mixed Marriages

I do not believe in mixed marriages. Inter racial marriages are just fine and will become extremely common. But mixed marriages between Republican and Democrat are now pretty much unworkable. No Democrat in their right mind would ever go near one of those idiots regardless of their sex. They are all flaming despicable nuts.

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I Do Not Believe In Mixed Marriages (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jun 2012 OP
My mom was a Republican and my stepfather a Democrat during their 20-year marriage slackmaster Jun 2012 #1
That was a different world Politicalboi Jun 2012 #2
I think it's mainly about protecting incumbency, staying in power slackmaster Jun 2012 #4
when only white males could vote CreekDog Jun 2012 #12
You haven't heard of most politicians of that time because most DID go back to their jobs slackmaster Jun 2012 #21
Well when those legislators were staying in office for decades, they created stellar policies CreekDog Jun 2012 #30
If you are referring to Proposition 140 as in term limits, I voted No because I thought it was... slackmaster Jun 2012 #32
Okay sorry i said that then CreekDog Jun 2012 #34
Amen to that. Zalatix Jun 2012 #13
"important in life" handmade34 Jun 2012 #5
Sure they can. Most people aren't even all that political RZM Jun 2012 #7
just discussing that with my SO handmade34 Jun 2012 #25
FYI, my mom has always considered every one of those things important including the right to choose slackmaster Jun 2012 #18
Ditto. My mum left because of Katrina. She said,"Bush doesn't like Black people." n/t vaberella Jun 2012 #36
You know full well this is ridiculous RZM Jun 2012 #3
Shit Stirring? otohara Jun 2012 #17
so don't marry outside of your party Kali Jun 2012 #6
there are quite a few sane repubs in Vermont cali Jun 2012 #8
not sane... handmade34 Jun 2012 #28
my parents were mixed. barbtries Jun 2012 #9
Marry? I can't even have a conversation with one. alarimer Jun 2012 #10
My husband is a Democrat... a la izquierda Jun 2012 #11
The Bible says it is an abomination jberryhill Jun 2012 #14
Matthew 13:14-15 rurallib Jun 2012 #22
And yet... this seems to be a trend in SW PA MrMickeysMom Jun 2012 #15
Your looking at the person Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #16
Some people make it work. RedCappedBandit Jun 2012 #19
There are some mixed marriages right here among DUers, Curmudgeoness Jun 2012 #20
Born in CA, live in WI with my partner. She is mostly apolitical but is SWTORFanatic Jun 2012 #23
People should feel free to marry who they love /nt NotThisTime Jun 2012 #24
I have to agree. I'm married to an independent and we tend to agree on everything political Ecumenist Jun 2012 #26
I do not believe in telling other people how to run their relationships. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #27
The Centrist DLC Big Business wing of the Democratic Party... bvar22 Jun 2012 #29
I love my conservative (Republican) husband Seeking Serenity Jun 2012 #31
My ex was a Republican HipChick Jun 2012 #33
I'm married to a Republican spinbaby Jun 2012 #35
I see it working for the Democrat better than the Republican treestar Jun 2012 #37
I dream of being in one with SE Cupp.... DLine Jun 2012 #38
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
1. My mom was a Republican and my stepfather a Democrat during their 20-year marriage
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:20 PM
Jun 2012

It ended when he died. My mom left the party at about age 60 after she'd had enough of the religious extremists.

They got along just fine, because they knew what was important in life and what did not need to be taken seriously.

I think the OP is an insult to the majority of both Republicans and Democrats who are able to agree to disagree about politics and remain on good terms. The extremes get most of the attention, but they really don't define either party.

Without cooperation between the parties, nothing would ever get done. Somehow, most of the time, people manage to work out differences.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. That was a different world
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:24 PM
Jun 2012

When the GOP actually worked with the President, and weren't so extreme. Both parties back then seemed to care about the people more than they do now. Now it's all about lobbyist.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
4. I think it's mainly about protecting incumbency, staying in power
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:28 PM
Jun 2012

I wish we could go back about 200 years to a system where having an elected office was viewed as a public service, a temporary diversion, after which one returns gracefully to a farm or a bakery or an optical shop, never to run for public office again.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
12. when only white males could vote
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jun 2012

and the politicians of that era that you have heard of, did not go back to their jobs.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
21. You haven't heard of most politicians of that time because most DID go back to their jobs
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jun 2012

Things we take for granted like making a career out of politics were not the norm.

...when only white males could vote...

Hold your horses CreekDog, I'm not saying it was perfect. I'm only talking about one aspect of political life. I think the biggest problem in politics today is incumbency. Efforts to fix it here in California have resulted in a system of apostolic successions and heirs apparent.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
30. Well when those legislators were staying in office for decades, they created stellar policies
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jun 2012

you already benefited from all that, so I guess you don't really care about it anymore.

but the point is that longtime legislators often became subject matter experts, and in so doing crafted policies and legislation that was no only copied by many other states, but was copied and envied worldwide.

there were educational policies, and some of the best schools in the nation in the 60's, and environmental rules and policies, also the envy of the world for many years...

all these things we *had* were not just bequeathed to us by the gods, but were envisioned by smart people who had the chance to make a career of writing thoughtful, nuanced legislation.

but all that's gone. to the extent that there are longtime experts writing legislation, it's lobbyists or staff who know the lobbyists probably better than their bosses.

thanks for voting for Prop. 140 slackmaster, it's wrecked state government.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
32. If you are referring to Proposition 140 as in term limits, I voted No because I thought it was...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:56 PM
Jun 2012

...unconstitutional.

As I stated up-thread, it has also resulted in some unpleasant unintended consequences.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
5. "important in life"
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jun 2012

a healthy environment, helping less fortunate people, providing good health care for all people, women's right to choose, a promising future for my children... all those things present day Republicans are against...

maybe 30 years ago a Democrat and Republican could co-exist... not now

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
7. Sure they can. Most people aren't even all that political
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jun 2012

There are plenty of mixed marriages in my own family. In most cases, neither partner is particularly interested in politics. And even in those where one partner is, political differences have zero bearing on their relationship.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
25. just discussing that with my SO
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:29 PM
Jun 2012

I agree for people not all that interested in politics... personally, I could not have an intimate life relationship with someone that does not value the environment, women's rights, equality, universal health care, etc...

...as someone posted on DU a few weeks ago...

“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics...from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”
― Bertolt Brecht

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
18. FYI, my mom has always considered every one of those things important including the right to choose
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:19 PM
Jun 2012

Women of her generation are very well informed on the issue, and they remember what things were really like before Roe v. Wade. Get a group of age 65 - 80 women together, let them have a glass of wine or two, and listen to what they have to say about it.

But I was referring to more personal things, like taking good care of children, teaching them good values, and helping them grow up into healthy, responsible adults.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
3. You know full well this is ridiculous
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jun 2012

People of all political stripes are perfectly capable of get along just fine on a personal level. Even dedicated ideologues are more than capable of creating strong bonds with one another. Politics is just one aspect of one's identity. For many people, it's nowhere near the top of the list.

I think it's pretty obvious that you are shit-stirring here.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
17. Shit Stirring?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:15 PM
Jun 2012

I've heard many of our representatives on radio, MSNBC...talk about how in all their years of being in office, they've never experienced the division that now exists. I think it was Barbara Boxer one day who was saying, there was a time they all used to get together socially, but no more.

People are moving to areas that suit their political leanings more than ever. There are dating services for political preferences.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120506/PC1204/120509526/1015&slId=12
While only 17 percent of men and 20 percent of women said a partner with the same party affiliations is a “must have,” the findings suggest singles may do some self-selecting that falls along party lines, even if unintentionally.

Self-described liberal Democrats, for example, place the highest priority on finding a partner who “treats them with respect,” “has a sense of humor” and “is comfortable with sexuality,” according to the study, which was sponsored by Match.com and conducted by biological anthropologist Helen Fisher and relationship therapist Laura Berman. Republicans’ top priorities are “shares the same values,” “has the same view on money” and “is the same religion.”

Democratic men consider it a turn-on “if a date is opinionated.” Self-described conservative Republican men consider it a turn-on “if a date dresses conservatively” and a turn-off “if a date has many guy friends,” while moderate Republican men consider it a turn-on “if a date is career-driven.”

This country is more divided more than ever by POLITICS.





Kali

(55,007 posts)
6. so don't marry outside of your party
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jun 2012

there are any number of mixed political pairings that manage to make it work

even within the party there are wide differences so 2 Dems could be far apart politically

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
9. my parents were mixed.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:49 PM
Jun 2012

i don't know if they still would be able to be together today. i know i couldn't live with a republican, not today. once upon a time maybe, but not these days.


these two seemed happy though...taken at the rally to restore sanity in DC

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
10. Marry? I can't even have a conversation with one.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:50 PM
Jun 2012

Especially the lunatic ones. You know, the ones who want to control my body.

I think Republicans are bad at sex. They never share and it's all about them, so it would be boring as hell. No thanks.

a la izquierda

(11,794 posts)
11. My husband is a Democrat...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jun 2012

I'm a Democratic Socialist. That's hard enough, for god's sake. I could never marry someone even remotely right of center.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
22. Matthew 13:14-15
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jun 2012

"And when a man leaves his home to marry he must do so with a clear mind.
That a liberal woman is naught but the she-devil herself."

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
15. And yet... this seems to be a trend in SW PA
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jun 2012

I'd never imaged as many when walking for several election campaigns here.

I've seen and R woman, and an R man. Right now, I'm thinking that I was more tolerant in conversation with the R man, because the R woman (I'm a woman, mind you) demonstrated a real attitude, regardless of how polite I tried to be, whereas an R man's assholery did not get in the way of having a conversation over the issues.

Just an observation. The only thing I could not understand was and Independent mixture... These folks are frankly "stuck" and need to talk.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
19. Some people make it work.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jun 2012

No way in hell I would date a republican, though.

Matter of fact, nobody I consider a close friend is a republican/conservative either. And I like it that way.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
20. There are some mixed marriages right here among DUers,
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:23 PM
Jun 2012

so watch your back. Somehow, they make it work.

But I will never be one of them, at least not in today's atmosphere....but I doubt that I could have even years ago. My opinions are strong enough that I could not set them aside long enough to fall in love with a Republican----or at least not a conservative Republican.

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
23. Born in CA, live in WI with my partner. She is mostly apolitical but is
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jun 2012

a liberal, doesn't like Walker, etc.

Most of her family is apolitical, except her mother and grandfather are liberals and her stepdad is a conservative. He's the only conservative I will stand. Any friends I had that were conservative are long since gone. Fuck em.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
26. I have to agree. I'm married to an independent and we tend to agree on everything political
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

but I dated a pub years ago during a period of temporary insanity and let's just say that after I handed him his pink slip, I asked him to forget my name and lose my number.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
27. I do not believe in telling other people how to run their relationships.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

There are plenty of people who have awesome politics and suck as people, or the other way 'round.

No matter how close you are to somebody ideologically you'll still find things to disagree about. How you handle disagreement says a lot more about the long term prospects of your relationship than how closely your views overlap.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
29. The Centrist DLC Big Business wing of the Democratic Party...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 06:50 PM
Jun 2012

... is married to the Republicans.
They share everything, and seem to get along quite well.

SEE: "Gang of 14".



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
31. I love my conservative (Republican) husband
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jun 2012

He is the love of my life (as I am his, as he says often) and is my best friend. I cannot imagine being with anyone else (nor would I want that).

Sorry my marriage distresses you so. I'll keep it all the same, thank you very much.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
33. My ex was a Republican
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jun 2012

His mother was a Democrat,Sisters too...He had a MBA,Phd, 20yrs ex-Army Officer, and still had the nerve to say to me "There is a question about Obama's Birth Certificate.."

spinbaby

(15,089 posts)
35. I'm married to a Republican
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jun 2012

For 35 years now. He voted for Obama in the last election, but every time he gets an NRA magazine he becomes convinced that Obama is going to take his guns.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
37. I see it working for the Democrat better than the Republican
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:50 PM
Jun 2012

Unless the spouse is truly a liberal Republican or just a free market Republican.

Otherwise, the Republican will want to take over and be the boss. They are convinced they are right, while liberals live and let live.

DLine

(397 posts)
38. I dream of being in one with SE Cupp....
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 08:54 PM
Jun 2012

Id love to lay next to her in the early morning light as we have just finished making love. I could look in her beautiful eyes and smile while I tell her how fucking wrong she is about pretty much everything.

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