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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmmon Bundy pleads with FBI to leave and end siege: "You have already killed enough."
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/ammon-bundy-tells-feds-and-oregon-police-to-go-home-in-jailhouse-recording/Go home Oregon State Police. You have already killed enough, Bundy says in the 90-second recording. Go home FBI. It is time to end this.
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In the recording, Bundy states that actions like his groups seizing of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge are the result of government officials ignoring the people.
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Bundy does not mention the four remaining militants still occupying the facility, whom he had encouraged to leave peacefully in past statements.
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See? It's the "will of the people" that federal land becomes a hunting/grazing/logging/mining/pillaging free-for-all.
No need for votes or elections. The brave freedom-fighters can read minds and know exactly what you really want:
Turn public land into profits for the select few.
randome
(34,845 posts)Good.
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TipTok
(2,474 posts)emulatorloo
(44,121 posts)which is sound legal advice if you want to have any chance with a jury.
However, he can't help himself. He lives in a bubble where everybody just reinforces his opinions. So he thinks everybody in the US supports him.
By the way, here's an interesting general article that somebody linked to in the comments section of the Oregonion's website.
The context of his referral was a response to right wingers going on and on that 'Finicum was murdered by the FBI!1!,1'
Great read if you get a chance.
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How Misinformation Spreads On The Internet
January 6, 2016 | by Robin Andrews
http://www.iflscience.com/technology/facebook-echo-chambers-help-spread-and-reinforce-misinformation
A team of researchers have conducted a five-year-long study on a wide range of Facebook users in a quest to find out how misinformation blossoms online. In their paper, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, they note that it may be due to the nature of so-called echo chambers, spaces that allow people to amplify their own belief systems without obstruction.
In this sense, echo chambers describe certain areas of the media, particularly the Internet, wherein information or beliefs are reinforced by repetitive transmission inside an enclosed virtual space. These spaces, which also serve to keep contrasting views at bay, may explain why there are so many groups of people online particularly on Facebook that steadfastly believe information that is demonstrably nonsensical.
In order to investigate how effective these echo chambers were, 67 public Facebook pages 32 regarding conspiracy theories and 35 related to science news were comprehensively analyzed each and every time a post appeared, including how the followers interacted with it, from 2010 to 2014. Conspiracy theory sites include those that reject the overwhelming consensus on contemporary climate change, and those that believe that Jade Helm 15 a series of military training exercises that occurred across the U.S. last year were actually interpreted as signs of an impending civil war.
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Link to the study here: http://www.pnas.org/content/113/3/554.full.pdf
randome
(34,845 posts)It's quite a conundrum.
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phantom power
(25,966 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)Why is this asshole being allowed to continue publicizing his jackass opinions, from fucking jail? Do other people get to do this, or is it only white conservative insurrectionists?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)How is that a good practice?
phantom power
(25,966 posts)I can think of reasons why a defendant might not be allowed to make public announcements relating to their own case. Maybe it's just because most don't, but these guys are all True Believers.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)They're allowed to bring in things like recording devices for the purpose of representing their clients.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)If they just bring their ambitions down a little bit they can move into a small suburban community in Central Florida, where there is plenty of land to steal by taking over the board of a Homeowner's Association. The networks are already in place to undermine powerless homeowners.
They will have nothing to fear from the FBI or State Attorney's Office down here, since RICO laws aren't taken seriously here.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Surely, he's also figured out by now that jails and prisons probably don't supply the snacks he and his cohorts are accustomed to. Life sure has its ups and downs. I rather doubt the state police and/or FBI are likely to follow his advice.
longship
(40,416 posts)Throw the fucking book at him, and all his followers on.
Sheesh!
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Should be an awesome defense. I look forward to seeing how it pans out.
packman
(16,296 posts)Hell, we must have thousands of them. Let them farm, commune, have no government rules, whatever. I bet it would last less than a year.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)onecaliberal
(32,854 posts)edhopper
(33,576 posts)is on his hands.
mainer
(12,022 posts)Oregon doesn't belong to the Bundys.