Boy, 10, gets 2 deer with one bullet on first hunt

[yeoman6987]

http://woodtv.com/2015/11/27/boy-10-gets-2-deer-with-one-bullet-on-first-hunt/


WISCONSIN (WBAY) — Every hunter remembers their first buck and the story of how they got it. But a 10-year-old boy from Wisconsin had a rare experience that some may call beginner’s luck.

“I wanted to go hunting this year because I really wanted a deer,” said 10-year-old Kyler Verbeten.

Kyler went out hunting Sunday with his dad, with his gun for the first time.

“This squirrel kept distracting me, so I kept watching the squirrel,” said Kyler. “The squirrel was just jumping from tree to tree, everything. It was just doing weird stuff.”

Kyler and his dad eventually saw two deer in the woods.

“I said, shoot the big doe, because there was a smaller one,” said Matt Verbeten, Kyler’s dad. “He had the gun, and I’m kind of laughing, we’ll see how he does, he’s 10…”

Kyler’s first shot missed the target.

“I said, ‘Shoot again,’ he puts it back up, BOOM. They just fell right over,” said Matt.

Kyler’s second bullet hit and killed two deer, the shot going through both animals.

“I was so excited I almost jumped out of the stand,” said Kyler, “I just ran down the ladder and ran out there to look at them.”

[yeoman6987]

1. This has to be rare. Talk about having food for the winter.....perhaps sharing with neighbors will

happen and a bunch of family members too. That is a lot of food to keep going for a long time.

[KamaAina]

81. Wisconsin deer are often not edible due to chronic wasting disease

a prion disease similar to mad cow.

[Brickbat]

82. Not true. CWD doesn't equal inedible.

It means taking precautions when field dressing and boning out.

[yeoman6987]

83. Oh damn. What a shame.

[elias49]

2. Ugh..

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. Double ugh.

[snooper2]

32. you don't like venison jerky I take it?

YUM YUM

[GGJohn]

3. Hooo Boy, this is going to piss off the anti hunters here. eom.

What a lucky shot though, I'm kinda stunned that after the first shot, the deer didn't take off,

[edgineered]

6. Surprising indeed.

And I would have said a chipmunk was making the racket and not a squirrel, but I wasn't there.

[Ed Suspicious]

11. Squirrels are incredibly noisy and irritable. I doubt it was anything but a squirrel.

[edgineered]

59. Big game season follows small game in some places.

I think maybe the squirrels where I hunted learned to keep quiet, kind of like dogs in the barrios, if you know what I mean.

[Eleanors38]

123. When hunting deer, pay attention to noisy squirrels and visiting crows...

Squirrels don't normally make a lot of noise in rural areas during hunting season. When they do, pay attention. Both squirrels and deer compete for acorns, pecans, and other mast.

If a crow circles over you, flies off, then returns to circle over you this is often a sign a deer is approaching from the direction where they are coming and going. Native Americans have considerable lore concerning crows and their cooperative actions with people. Crows will gladly share in the spoils of the ofal left behind.

[edgineered]

135. I always attempt to take good advice.

Thanks for giving it.

[Eleanors38]

136. The only other time squirrels recklessly chattered midday in the woods....

was when a truly dangerous predator passed through: A feral cat. Birds, squirrels gave it shit, even while I stood there with a shotgun.

[edgineered]

137. That was a close one.

Without qualifying it as feral there could have been enough alert flags flying around here to decorate an embassy. It was risky enough to use the g word in the same sentence in GD.

[Rex]

68. I think that was the point of this thread, slow day for the OP.

However, looking over the thread there is nothing really happening as far as dividing people up. Seems mild, I bet the OP has a sadz now.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

139. Unless they are vegetarians, it's hard to take them seriously.

I'd make exceptions those who only eat seafood.

[edgineered]

4. Yeah, this story can work two ways

A friend beat the charges of taking two deer by using the single bullet story. Makes me wonder if they had two tags?

[Scuba]

5. There's so many deer these days that the DNR gives out tags like candy.

[edgineered]

9. Its been a long time since I've hunted.

Down here in S. Florida the deer weigh less than large dogs so there isn't much incentive. Well, its off to work now - damn it.

[Kilgore]

15. Here also

We call them Forrest Rats.

[joshcryer]

10. In the video the dad said he used his and his sons tags.

So they had no reason to make the story up.

If anything the dad probably silently wished could've got a bigger buck with his tag. But the story was too good not to share so he ain't saying it. But he was sure to say he used his tag for one of them just to make that point clear.

Did your friend get to keep both carcasses?

[Bucky]

7. If the deer had been armed....

But alas, deers don't have arms

[Orrex]

25. You're thinking of bear arms.

[yeoman6987]

28. They kill enough people without being armed

The deaths from auto accidents by deer are tragic and a large number.

[Bucky]

62. So maybe one of the two tags they had was a license tag

If it'd only been a reindeer, we'd have a nice "War on Christmas" story for Fox News

[Rex]

67. Wrong. People kill the deer or are you actually claiming deer jump out on purpose to kill people?

I'm sorry your OP didn't give you the results you wanted, how sad for you. Maybe try something more obviously dividing next time.

[yeoman6987]

78. I thought it was interesting

I don't hunt or ever owned a gun so I did get what I was fed out of the OP. A very interesting and relatively popular thread. Not bad for sitting in the airport waiting for my flight.

[Kingofalldems]

90. Boom. Glad there are others who see.

[GGJohn]

91. LOL.

Sometimes it seems as if the deer wait until a car is passing and then jump out.
It's like the jackrabbits in this part of the country, they make it across the street safely, then for some unknown reason, they try to go back to the other side of the road, but they usually don't make it and end up as road kill.

[beam me up scottie]

97. Bingo.

[dlwickham]

119. I've had one jump out in front of me

didn't hit it but scared the ever living crap out of me

[Rex]

120. The day they start developing tanks and planes...

Some threads are just dumb, sorry to the OP sometimes they are good. However when you push it to "Rudolf gunned down my mom" ur done. The end.

I am glad to see most of us here can tolerate each other over 'firearms' or 'not in their home' and are in the majority on DU. There are a hell of a lot more issues to worry about than deer hunters. Or sports shooters imo. We don't get mad about it in the Winter Olypmics so what the fuck already?

And as for drama - oh boy, the kid killed the deer...did he eat it's heart too as blood geershhhed out and did dad start singing Old Glory and crying to the storm god how his son just became a man? Did he bathe in the blood too?

Give me a break already.

[Scuba]

8. Several years ago I was registering my deer when a man came in with his 12-year old son ...

... who had shot a 14-point buck (very wide spread) on his first hunt.


I felt sorry for the kid, because in all likelihood he can hunt the rest of his life and never take another that large.

[HereSince1628]

17. Doesn't chronic wasting management keep the herd younger on avg?

Seems like I encountered something about the herd being younger because of that.

[Snobblevitch]

84. Several years ago there was a story about

a 13 year old Minnesota boy who shot a buck similar to the one you described. Bud Grant happened to be at the gas station when the boy and his dad registered his deer. Grant said much what you said, he was quoted in the paper saying "...son, you'll be chasing that deer for the rest of your days."

(A friend of mine from my youth shot a 14 point buck with a bow when he was 14. Alas, he is not chasing that deer anymore. He died of colon cancer at age 40.)

[NightWatcher]

12. I got my first deer with a Chevy and I wasn't even trying

I saved so much money by not having to buy all that camouflage gear and a rifle.

[pinboy3niner]

14. That's one way to grill venison

[Orrex]

27. .

[Kilgore]

29. Thanks!!

That made me almost spit up my coffee!!!!

[GGJohn]

16. Ron White on deer hunting.

[jonno99]

42. Argh - you beat me to it. One of the best bits ever!

"...Whooo, that's an elusive little creature!"

[B Calm]

18. I've killed 3 deer with Freightliners and 1 with a Buick.

[Orrex]

26. It's always Exploded Deer Season on I-79.

[zigby]

113. Yep! Growing up in the country meant...

Knowing which neighbors you could wake up at deer-thirty in the morning to help you field dress in exchange for a haunch. I'm not a gun nut by any measure, but I have no issues with those who shoot as long as they use the meat. On the other hand, I have a huge problem with people who are too squicky to at least mercy kill what they hit, let alone harvest the good meat.

[Brickbat]

13. Ha! Great job!

[Herman4747]

19. A Yeoman Impressed by a Child Killing deer...

...this instead impresses me.

And children less inclined to harm deer might just well be less inclined to harm humans -- what do you think, yeoman?

[GGJohn]

21. Oh please.

Deer hunting, especially in the rural parts of the country, is a tradition going way back, I hunt, my wife hunts, my kids and grandkids hunt, not one of us would ever harm another human being unless forced to.

[Herman4747]

48. Too bad You have nothing better to do with your time...

...than to kill woodland creatures who do you no harm.

This doctor here:



did have something better to do with his time than to kill. He sought instead to use his precious time to heal. He was awarded the 1952 Nobel Peace Prize, in part for teaching "Reverence for Life," a lesson your poor grandchildren I fear will never learn.

[GGJohn]

50. I have a lot of things to do on our farm,

including supplying my freezer with meat that's not contaminated with chemicals.

Are you by chance a meat eater?

Woodland animals that do me no harm?
The deer/elk around our area do great damage to our crops, the predators try to kill our livestock, so don't tell me that these woodland animals aren't doing me no harm.

[Herman4747]

73. You ACTUALLY ask if I'm a meat-eater????

What a ridiculous question.

[Act_of_Reparation]

76. How many precious animals do you think lost their habitats to human agriculture?

How many are killed by combines and other farm equipment every day?

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

[Logical]

86. LOL, you are entertaining. nt

[GGJohn]

88. LOL, back atcha. eom.

[Brickbat]

24. One could make the argument that the video you posted is sad and cold-hearted.

From what I understand, the Miyajima deer herd is terribly managed -- tamed over generations through hand-feeding and now slowly starving to death due to ill-informed policies. Some of the deer in that video have clearly become a nuisance looking for food.

[jonno99]

43. Yep - unintended consequences - killing them with "kindness"...nt

[Herman4747]

52. A "Nuisance," perhaps to someone like you...

...but a precious, sentient life to someone else? Think it over -- what do you think?

[GGJohn]

55. I think fresh venison or deer jerky is delicious. eom

[Go Vols]

64. +1

[Rex]

77. Me too, but not as good as alligator jerky imo.

It is funny what creatures people will empathize with and which ones we villify.

"Oh look it is a cute deer...let's feed it!" "Oh shit it is a fucking croc...run!!!"

[GGJohn]

98. Never had gator jerky,

but I'm always willing to try something new.

"Oh look it is a cute deer...let's feed it!" "Oh shit it is a fucking croc...run!!!"

LOL, you couldn't be more correct.
It always amazes me how people think that deer live like the Walt Disney movie, Bambi, but in reality, Mother Nature is a very cruel and harsh mother where the rules of the wild is the strongest prey on the weakest in a most cruel way.

[Brickbat]

71. About what?

That people see animals very differently? It happens.

[Eleanors38]

124. Some here should read/see The Yearling. The Babbi antedote.

[951-Riverside]

22. What is with certain male gun nuts watching women and small children shoot things?

...It just seems weird and almost fetish like.

Not that it has anything to do with this story, I'm just making an general observation.

[Brickbat]

30. What is it with certain people who at any mention of a gun start making sexual innuendoes?

Talk about weird.

[951-Riverside]

36. No, its not a creepy fetish at all

[Brickbat]

38. Posting snuff films is, though.

You should talk to someone about that.

[jonno99]

44. Not a cool post...nt

[Eleanors38]

125. Probably acceptable. In GD.

[Lizzie Poppet]

37. (mic drop)

[snort]

33. Could be more to it than that.

There's a food truck near here that has a cartoon pig on the side. I assume they sell bbq pork products. The pig is anthropomorphic, female and sporting what one might think of as 'floozy wear'.

Sexing up an animal that you kill and eat is kind of fucked up.

[Brickbat]

34. You may be interested in the work of Carol J. Adams, if you are not already familiar with it.

[snort]

41. New to me. Thanks.

[jehop61]

23. Whoopie Do

[arthritisR_US]

94. My thoughts exactly. nt

[snort]

31. Using modern technology and with some ingenuity,

I have managed to move on from this part of the food chain.

Civilization. So underutilized. Or is it over utilized?

[Eleanors38]

138. Foodchain removal? No, you are part of it.

Killing 2 deer with one shot is unusual, and mostly inadvertant, but it has happened since black powder days.

Some in DU are outraged that hunters may take a deer each year, but are unmoved by millions of acres of wilderness displaced by soybeans and green vegetables and nuts. Perhaps this style of abstract killing is more civilized to some; I think its psychic numbing to one's role in death, and a good "safe" vantage point from which one can cast moral aspersions toward other up-close styles of killing.

I would also point out that hunting predates the technology of agriculture, and has not "benefitted" nearly as well by its technological advances. Rest assured, I do not oppose ag, but I get a little uneasy when I see wild, productive scrub and bottom land habitat turned into pinwheel irrigation or slash pine monoculture. But that's modern civilization.

[countingbluecars]

35. Hunting for food is one thing

but getting all puffed up and bragging about it seems wrong.

[Brickbat]

39. I'm interested in what the acceptable level of taking pleasure and pride in a job well done is.

[Scootaloo]

79. In some traditional societies, bragging hunters get shunned

The animal's life is a gift from the animal, and making it about how awesome you are was believed to insult the animals and they would make hunting bad for your community.

[Paladin]

40. Unless you're deliberately igniting controversies, this belongs in the "Outdoor Life" group. (nt)

[Scurrilous]

47. IMHO this post is nothing more than backdoor way to engage in gun chat in GD.

[Lizzie Poppet]

57. The "no gun stuff in GD" rule has become a running joke.

And most every such thread turns into a shit show in no time. This one's actually a bit of an exception...

[Paladin]

70. This is more of a hunting thread than it is a gun thread.

And as I said before, Outdoor Life is the designated place for hunting threads---unless people are courting controversy.

[Eleanors38]

127. "backdoor?". B-WWAH-HAH! The front door has been ajar for months!

You could post an OP about growing roses, and if it's related to an NRA TalkingPoint®, you're good to go!



Sorry, can't get over the irony.

[Rex]

69. Yeah I would say this is an OP fail.

No huge 30 reply sub-threads etc.. Oh well, better luck next time OP!

[arthritisR_US]

96. Or flushed down the cosmic loo for Karma to catch it. nt

[Eleanors38]

126. No, no... Gunz was involved.

[longship]

45. In Alaska this could get one a $2,500 fine.

Unless you could definitively prove that one bullet did kill two.

I am not against hunting. However, I am against irresponsible hunting, like putting a deer rifle in the hands of a ten year old. If it was a 30-06 or a 30-30, it would knock him on his ass. Anything smaller might be cruel to the deer.

Just putting this out for respectful discussion.

[GGJohn]

46. The father said that they used both tags, his and his son's,

so nothing illegal there.
As far as a 10 yo hunting? All us kids started hunting at 8 years old, we all had our own hunting rifles that were kept locked up in our parents firearm safe and if we were shooting, we were strictly supervised by our parents or an adult.
I shot a .308 when I was 9, it certainly didn't knock me on my ass, it rocked me a little, but it didn't knock me down.

[longship]

49. I presume that this kid had shot the gun before.

Otherwise, he shouldn't be hunting.

I live in the midst of Manistee National Forest (MI), in other words a very rural area. Most of the roads here are not paved. During the past several days, one can hear gunshots regularly, all day long. That does not worry me except that I hope that they know that there is a house here, and not to take the shot if one has to point this way.

That is the only problem I see with young people deer hunting. They had damned well be supervised.

I deer hunted once, over 50 years ago. Saw two deer, no good shots. But I had supervision. I was 16. Have not hunted since. But am not against it. It is just not for me.

[GGJohn]

51. Hunting isn't for everybody, and I respect those that choose not to hunt

but don't condemn others that do, what irks me is those that condemn us hunters, yet are meat eaters.

[Lizzie Poppet]

56. I've a similar viewpoint.

I stopped hunting at 13...it just isn't for me. But I hunted with my dad for five years (started at 8 w/ small game), and I have no objection to responsible hunters who follow the law. The only "animals" I shoot these days are made of flat pieces of steel (and not often...silhouette isn't my main form of competition).

[longship]

58. Well, one would not get away with that here.

My best friend is a hunter and I am a regular at his home for venison dinner. So many people here hunt that if one does not approve of it, one likely would not live here.

BTW, the farm fresh chickens and eggs are wonderful. Plus, there are many, many wild turkeys!

So, I completely approve of both omnivores and hunting.

[Orrex]

53. This kid knows how to get more buck for his bang.

I really tried to resist posting this, but my willpower failed me.

[mainer]

54. You win.

No one else is gonna top that.

[Eleanors38]

129. Bla-BOOM-BOOM! you out gunned Pinboy!

[Nye Bevan]

60. My kids think deer are cute.

I'm not sure it would be even possible to persuade them to aim a lethal weapon at them, pull the trigger, and watch the animal die. Perhaps the ability to blow away cute animals is a mindset that needs to be taught starting at a very early age.

[friendly_iconoclast]

63. Unless all of you are vegans, there *will* be an awkward conversation or two in your future...

[Brickbat]

72. Cute and tasty are a hard combination to wrestle with, for some.

[Herman4747]

75. You're right. As GGJohn will attest to...

...the bloodlust has to be instilled into children. It does NOT come naturally, as we observe in this video:

[Eleanors38]

133. I learned just being in the woods: Animals kill each other, humans or no.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

61. A heartwarming tale to start off the week.

[Logical]

65. So sweet and tender. Nt

[Brickbat]

74. Nice to see it was properly aged.

[Rex]

66. Slow day?

[lumberjack_jeff]

80. This happened to a friend when we were kids.

But it was Elk and he and his dad only had one tag.

Sadly for Gary, the second elk died at the feet of a game warden.

[ileus]

85. My son harvested a deer last week, there were 4 of them milling about

I made sure to instruct him to be sure no two deer were lined up when picking out one to take.

We now have one very large doe in the freezer...one heart shot from the 300mag.

At 11yo it was his 4th deer.

[Logical]

87. LOL, "harvested" nt

[GGJohn]

89. Yep, harvested,

as in, harvested nature's bounty.

[Logical]

92. Quit being scared, just say killed. nt

[GGJohn]

93. LOL. Not scared, just stating the truth.

I and my lovely wife harvest many animals yearly from the bounty that Mother Nature provides us.

[Logical]

95. LOL, ok. nt

[Iggo]

128. Harvested...unh, unh...pick one to take...unh, unh, unh...300mag...yee-aaaaaaagh!!!!

Phew!

I'm spent.

[ericson00]

99. I got no problem with hunting,

but I sure hope this isn't the dad who gets his kid a new gun for Christmas.

[Snobblevitch]

100. Why not?

[ericson00]

101. because there's a million other hobbies, talents, and interests

young kids who are not even teenagers should be developing.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

102. Bloody kid needs his arse kicked!

[GGJohn]

105. Why?

If they consume the meat or donate it to the needy, then what's the problem?

[darkangel218]

107. Question is, why be proud you killed 2 dears with one shot??????

This is sick.

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[GGJohn]

110. Ok, you do have a point there, it's not something I would brag about. eom.

[840high]

108. My friend in Ky and his

buddies kill deer and donate to the hungry for the winter.

[GGJohn]

112. My wife and I donate what we don't consume to the needy in Flagstaff,

they're damn glad to have it, otherwise, no part of the game we take is wasted.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

121. Eating the flesh of a once living creature,

that is what's wrong. Teaching the bloody kid to kill, that's what's wrong. Ending the life of a living, breathing, thinking, loving creature, that's what's wrong.

You don't need meat to live.

[GGJohn]

122. But I choose to eat meat. eom.

[darkangel218]

103. Killing 2 perfectly healthy wild animals in one shot??

Oh my!! Thats so amazing!!

[GGJohn]

109. darkangel218

Me and my wife hunt or raise all of our meat because we refuse to support the cruel, horrible factory farms where animals are tortured, we also prefer our meat to be free of all that chemical crap they put in the meats these days.

We don't enjoy the taking of an animals life, but we are thankful for the nourishment provided from Mother Nature, and you can be assured that what we don't eat helps feed the needy in our town.

We don't hang trophies on our walls like others do, we don't waste any part of what we hunt, IOW, we are responsible hunters who follow all relevant laws and are very safe hunters.

Peace to you and yours.

[darkangel218]

111. I understand that, very much so. But why post about killing two dears in ONE shot???????

This post is sick, no matter how you look at it.

[GGJohn]

114. I can agree with you that bragging about is not cool at all.

I can understand the child's excitement being his first hunt, but the dad should have refused to do an interview with the paper on it.
It really is nothing to brag about, they should have just accepted that he got lucky and move on without the fanfare.

[darkangel218]

115. Thank you.

[darkangel218]

104. Kudos for the kill!!

[Smarmie Doofus]

106. Wow. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald.

I feel a little safer now.

[AtomicKitten]

116. Ugh. Boo. Hiss.

[darkangel218]

117. Hey, they took two lives in one shot!!!

They say we should be clapping !! :'(


This is so sick.

I hope OP deletes. :'(

[Initech]

131. +1

[LinneaTench]

118. Really amazing

it is really amazing. Most of the people waste their bullets but do not get their hunt. If you practice then you can do it.
"Practice makes the man perfect"

[bigwillq]

130. Wow. That's really good.

Good for him. I hope they put that meat to good use. Would be nice if they donate some.

[PowerToThePeople]

132. "I love to kill things!"

A new douchebag in training.

[Eleanors38]

134. Vegetable mega-farms displace wilderness. But we need farms, too.

Besides, those big farms dillute the act of killing from spilling blood to unemotional mechanized extirpation. So-o-o-o soothing to the psyche.

[bullwinkle428]

140. How powerful was the gun that could produce a shot fatal to two different

(fairly large) animals, and should a 10-year-old be handling that particular weapon? I personally have no issues with ethical hunting (i.e. no poaching, baiting, shit like that) or hunting deer in particular, but I'm picturing in my mind a situation like that one a couple of years where the young girl ended up killing the instructor on the range when she couldn't handle the weapon she was shooting.