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How To Get Banned From Facebook For Telling The Truth (Original Post) snooper2 Nov 2015 OP
I'm betting you'll get alerted on for this. cwydro Nov 2015 #1
well, it would fit in line with the OP wouldn't it snooper2 Nov 2015 #3
Yet some will defend Islam to their dying breath. B2G Nov 2015 #2
DU has a severe case of what I like to call "Underdog Syndrome" linuxman Nov 2015 #4
The rationalization squad will be along shortly... B2G Nov 2015 #5
But.... but.... THE CRUSADES! (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #12
Underdogma. Throd Nov 2015 #8
Thank you. linuxman Nov 2015 #9
It must be their excellent record in regards to supporting women and gay rights... grossproffit Nov 2015 #6
It's totally out of hand. sibelian Nov 2015 #7
K&R Go Vols Nov 2015 #10
Hate to say it, but Dusty's right. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #11
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
1. I'm betting you'll get alerted on for this.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:02 PM
Nov 2015

I just served on a jury for another post about Muslims (voted to leave, and the post is still there).

But thanks for posting it!

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
3. well, it would fit in line with the OP wouldn't it
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:09 PM
Nov 2015

I got my fans but a lot of them probably used up their 1 alert already for today GD-P keeps people busy-

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
4. DU has a severe case of what I like to call "Underdog Syndrome"
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

How else do we get otherwise progressive people to defend a religion that fuels the killing of gays, oppression of women, executes people for blasphemy, and cuts of the genitals of small girls?



Throd

(7,208 posts)
8. Underdogma.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:30 PM
Nov 2015

As long as it purports to be anti-Western or anti-capitalist, some will defend any ideology no matter how glaringly horrible it is.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
6. It must be their excellent record in regards to supporting women and gay rights...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:24 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Oh wait.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
7. It's totally out of hand.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:27 PM
Nov 2015

It's become this monolithic "We mustn't be any nastier to them than we already have been" thing which leaves the actual content of their belief structure unanalysable.

Some of those guys are complete bastards. And it's because of what they believe.

Yeah, I'm imposing Western Standards. The ones that mean women get to drive.



I guess these days it's only conservatives that are allowed to think slaughtering gay people for religious reasons is bad...

No, I don't hate Muslims, yes I can seperate the value of a person from their belief system, no I don't think I can judge people's level of adherence to their religion from what they look like, no I don't think all refugees are the same thing as terrorists, yes the destruction of their land and the babaric treatment of their people is a causative factor, no I don't excuse our behaviour, yes it's heartbreaking that Muslims all over the West now feel frightened that they're going to be blamed for something that isn't their fault.

No, I don't think religion is somehow inherently bad.
No, I don't think there's anything inherently valuable about Islam.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Hate to say it, but Dusty's right.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:46 PM
Nov 2015

Islam has completely lost it when it comes to violence and fucknuttery.

And Dusty said it right. It's because Muslims take their stupid Bronze Age Magic Book more seriously than Christians take their stupid Bronze Age Magic Book.

This is what happens when Christians take their stupid Bronze Age Magic Book far too seriously... (thank FSM, Right Wing Watch has been reinstated on Youtube)



Why is Islamic culture more violent? Look at the sociological factors.

Most of us live in the U.S., so most people around us are Christian, and probably middle-class, or somewhat affluent. We're in a stable, at least somewhat profitable society, where most of us can put a roof over their heads and live like normal people. That gives you some luxuries, like having some liberty to think for yourself.

Look at much of the Muslim world - poor, lots of unemployment, lots of desperate young people looking for The Answer to their problems, and Daesh comes and offers to serve it up on a plate.

I'm an atheist, and I'll say that being an atheist is a bit of a luxury. If you're starving, or sick all the time, or have to deal with thugs attacking you at any possible time, chances are good you'll turn to religion for comfort.

So more people are desperate, turn to religion, and thus poor, unstable societies get caught up in more of the batshittery that natually comes out of religion.

Look at the Muslims that come to the U.S. Sure, there may be an occasional asshole, but 99.999% of them settle down, get jobs, raise families, and turn out to be chill nice people. They're living here, in a more stable, affluent society, so they don't have to turn to madmen with magic books for comfort so much, so they're chill. Sure they practice Islam, but American Islam is like American Christianity - toned down, though with some exceptions.

What happens when Christianity is in a place of poverty and desperation? Look at Africa. The Christians down there are fucking batshit. They hunt witches. They demand to put GLBT people to death. They turn to psychopaths like Joseph Kony. They treat women like shit.

And assholes like Kevin Swanson and Pat Robertson spend lots of time down there stirring the shit. It's profitable for them. They're always sending missionaries, because first-world countries will only let them get away with so much fucknuttery. But in Africa, and in the Third World, batshit is a growth industry.

There you have it. Why is Islam more violent and fucked up? Because more Muslims live in hellholes, and psychopathic religious leaders exploit that fact. That's why Daesh has gotten as far as it has, and they've gone so completely apeshit that it's impossible to share the planet with them. I'm sorry, but Daesh needs to be fucking exterminated. There's nothing for it.

Let me know how the alert goes. Christopher Hitchens was right. Religion poisons everything!
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