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Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:16 PM Nov 2015

If you allow state lotteries, then ALL gambling should be legal

Any state that has a state lottery, should make ALL gambling legal. it's hypocrisy to have games of chance with no real possibility of winning and outlaw other games of chance where at least there's a better chance of winning.

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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. What is the actual benefit in making all other forms of gambling legal? and to whom?
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:23 PM
Nov 2015

Making it more easy for problem gamblers to get fleeced, more money to flow into private pockets? Since the game is always 'rigged' for the house, a 'better chance of winning' is just 'losing more slowly'. And people are going to blow through more cash playing poker or slots or whatever than ever they do through buying a lottery ticket.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. From money collected from people who can't really afford it in the first place?
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:32 PM
Nov 2015

Are you going to collect 95% in taxes? Or is most of it going to wind up just making rich people richer?

trof

(54,256 posts)
6. No, I'd settle for 10%.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:42 PM
Nov 2015

You'd possibly surprised at the number of peole who cannot only afford to gamble, they like to do it.

If you like, we could means test gamblers.
You'd have to show proof of liquid assets of $XXXXXX... or more to be admitted to the casino.

While we're at it, let's do the same for cigarettes, snuff, booze, and tattoo buyers.
If you're too poor, you can't play/buy.
But then, who gets to pick the $number?

Of course the rich (casino owners) will get richer.
That's why they open casinos.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
19. Consenting adults should be able to make their own choices
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:53 PM
Nov 2015

and not all forms of gambling are rigged. In poker, horse racing, and sports betting, the house merely acts as a clearinghouse between bettors, after taking a cut off the top. A skilled handicapper or poker player can make a profit. It takes a lot of work and dedication, but it is very possible.

 

Bottoms_Up

(24 posts)
4. Many state lotteries give a ton of funds other initatives.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:30 PM
Nov 2015

State wildlife, schools, anti gambling programs, general state funds, etc...
What you're suggesting is literally privatizing the lottery system.
Think a private for-profit lottery enterprise would give most of their profits back to government programs?

That idea is stupid.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
9. New York State OTB has...
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:52 PM
Nov 2015

been losing money for decades.

Corruption is rampant. Incompetence is breathtaking.

A racket is still a racket even if it's run by the good people in government.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
8. Legal gambling is regulated and taxed
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:50 PM
Nov 2015

US sports betting law is antiquated. Maybe the fantasy sites force a resolution. They know their window will close soon enough, ergo the current gold rush mentality.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
12. The state sponsored lottery is a tax on poor math skills.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:01 PM
Nov 2015



Even though I throw my own money away on it from time to time.

And you make a valid point.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
13. Gambling, though is like a regressive tax
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:12 PM
Nov 2015

Yeah, plenty of people gamble who can afford it, but lots more do who cannot afford it. Supposedly, the argument in favor of state-run lotteries is that a larger portion of the proceeds go to the State. Whereas, in a privatized game, due allowance must be made for profits.

But then, criminal gambling, be it numbers, bookies, or the game in the back room, contribute nothing at all to taxes, either. I guess it's a question of whether you want the profits to go to organized crime or corporations. Oh, sorry, I'm repeating myself.

-- Mal

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